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Lone Gunman
08-11-2004, 08:10 AM
Fast, fast lady
A new fresh scenario rising?

A ridiculously young, sexy and model-like woman, claims she is about to get passport and visa for my country.
- In her third email.
She has also advised me to just wait for flight-number, date and time of day, for her arrival.

She also claims her employer pays the trip as a "fringe" for her. For a well done job.

When and in what way is it likely she will "screw" me?
What stunt is still left to be made?

So far I've told her nothing of significance about myself.
Reason: - I'm still waiting for answers for some questions from her.
She's "madly in love" and I, have not yet offered a single compliment, to her.

And she's too good to be true, so she's probably not true.

Any ideas guys?
Anyone been approached in this way?

:D

See ya

wxman2003
08-11-2004, 09:07 AM
I guess if she is paying for everything, then you won't be out much. I have a feeling she will ask you to pay for tickets as she is setting you up for that. But if she doesn't then go ahead and meet her. She will be on your turf if she does come, you can always just walk away if she starts to scam.

Lone Gunman
08-11-2004, 11:02 AM
Could any female be THAT stupid? To think I'll pay anything, after only a few days email writing.
For christssake, I got her first ever email just one (1) week ago. Almost needless to mention, she contacted me first.

A neat trick thou, first she attached a "amateurish" photo, she's wearing a baggy, tasteless, ill fitted frock. I replied out of politeness, despite her young age..... To cheer her up.

And compare that to yesterdays (latest) brilliant photo. The saying "less is more" was appropriate. Meaning less clothes = more skin:-). Her advantages was really emphasized.
She should have some credit for that.



See ya

seajay
08-11-2004, 03:36 PM
Just approach it all with caution. Safety first, isn't that the maxim?

Remember that, even if her employer pays the travel expenses, she still has to qualify for a visa to visit you. Does she have a travel history already?

And if she doesn't make you part with a few hundred here, a couple of thousand there, still make sure you two get to know each other properly before you co-habitate. There are, alas, even worse things she can do to you once you're engaged or married. You could find yourself homeless, asset-less and facing domestic violence charges.

yuppi
08-13-2004, 09:09 PM
Hi there,

I experienced some correspondence with very fast and all promising girls, but it turned out to be kind of scamming very soon.
At least I have to confess that the girls (or whoever) have a pretty rich phantasy in telling stories and finding excuses.

My only good experience so far has been with a suspicious girl from Ukraine who nerved me with a lot of questions at first before agreeing to anything.


See Ya

Lone Gunman
08-17-2004, 11:34 PM
It was a scamming attempt. A fast one. Some unforeseen additional, last minute, travel-expense showed up that she needed help with, at an instant ;)

I wish they made some more effort to earn their dollars.

Become curious, in love, volunteer to visit abroad, finding that some 150? is missing for the travel to become real.
In 1 1/2 week and 5 emails flat.
A new Olympic record?
Report it to Athens?


See ya

mrsouthern
08-19-2004, 02:26 PM
Lucky that I am already broke! I received a reply to my Yahoo personal from a 26 y/o Russian girl. She has sent me several photos (descent ones). We have been exchanging email for several weeks. I suspected it was a scam from the begining, but I tried to be open since I am lonely. The kicker for me is when money gets involved. Her letters were very convincing too. You should be able to find them on stop-scanners.com now. Anyway, as the scenario goes, she had to take a vacation, and would be so lonely without getting to hear from me since she doesn't have a computer at home. SO she decides to come to see me. She is paying for everything. She grew up in orphange and someone left her an apartment. She never answers my questions or replies directly back to my emails. Now she only needs me to Western Union over $450 dollars to finish the travel expenses. I must change my website now, and stamp stupid across my forehead in all my pics :D Very beautiful girl though. I think she has sent me 13 pictures, and a copy of her B1/B2 Visa. I just wish she was for real, but her letters are almost identical to some I have seen on stop-scammers keyword search "my soul!". I would recommend you avoid anyone that emails with the following address: olga@muzwagon.com SHE IS A SCAM!!!!!

How do you meet real Russian women?

TB

duilius
08-20-2004, 04:33 AM
quote:
How do you meet real Russian women?


I think is very hard a real Russian woman:(. After the first experience with a scammer, Now, i ask 2 questions. If their answer i continue, otherwise stop immediately my mailing.
Now i found other 2 scammer, all drunked at the first e-mail, :D(check-their and found them on antiscam sites) don't answered me to my stupid questions. Maybe another one. For to be sure i stopped with her too my mailing:).

I think that is better change nation for find a real woman, Now, I begin to have serious doubts on russian woman. [?][?]

southamerican
08-20-2004, 01:52 PM
Hi guys

I'm also beginning to think that the whole idea of finding a woman in Russia is a complete waste of time and emotions. It's really a lot of emotional distress to be writing to a woman and trying to develop a relationship while you're full of doubts.

How does one meet real Russian women? Anybody can help us?

Another country? Maybe it's a good idea... anyone can suggest one?

Southamerican

duilius
08-20-2004, 03:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by southamerican


I'm also beginning to think that the whole idea of finding a woman in Russia is a complete waste of time and emotions.
Southamerican


woowwww maybe i found her! Woooooowwwww In one day four mails!!! Strange but i true!!! And also i too nice !!

Write a something of special like a nice funny poetry, . If she's right and understand all, You'll find her. So the scammers you know quickly, always the same thinghs say them. bla bla bla. [8][8]

Lone Gunman
08-20-2004, 09:07 PM
duilius!

Maybe she's a trainee.

Who besides "professionals" got the time, or make the time, with such a bombardment?
Beware!

[}:)][}:)][}:)]

See Ya

duilius
08-20-2004, 10:48 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Lone Gunman

duilius!

Maybe she's a trainee.

[}:)][}:)][}:)]

si! va be! ops
ok! all right! also this!:(
scammers, trainee, and after? a woman tooled with surprise![:0] like an Easter's egg. "you don't know what there's inside"
grrrrrr

ray
08-20-2004, 11:51 PM
HERE IS HOW TO MEET A REAL RUSSIAN WOMAN:
Hi Guys
Most of the time I wrote to Russian or Ukrainian women was a complete waste of time. Sending money through WU is just like sending money to a crimal, WU know what's going on. I asked them to stop allowing frequent multiple money transers to the same person - WU don't care, they don't want to know because they make money on it. FUWU

Try the new EEC countries, but there are scammers there, but visiting is easier, they don't need visa to travel in EEC. I've met my first girl from new EEC country, she's Russian.

I think the only way not to waste a lot of time is to go on an organised tour, e.g. St.Petersburg, the women are real. My friend found the most unbelievable woman that way. She is just an unbelievable real humam being - real Russian women are like that. She takes care of him like he is a puppy, now they got a kid. Yup, go on a tour.

ray

Elena
08-21-2004, 06:34 AM
Wish you luck guys... And , believe me, its really hard to find a real man on i-net too ... [V] . Maybe I have to write somehting about - scammer-guys on i-net.. but its too late right now... have a good sleep to all... and be careful with the beautifull russian girls [:o)];)

Johnny
08-21-2004, 09:49 PM
Hello Elena
Great to have you involved in this forum.
I went to Bulgaria to meet a lady a couple of years ago, she was lovely and we spent a wonderful 10 days together. I saw her again for another week. Unfortunately neither of us were prepared to move to the others country...or even any other country! Sadly we are not together now :(
I,and i'm sure the rest of us look forward to hearing your stories
about men scammers
Johnny

Lone Gunman
08-21-2004, 11:19 PM
Hi Elena

I fully agree with Johnny.
After you have had your rest.
Please tell us about male scamming techniques!
I?m so curious ?
[:o)][:o)]

See Ya

Elena
08-22-2004, 03:40 PM
Hi guys,

Well I can say that I have never involved in somehting like I can read here. The only reason is that I can say "NO" And I know what that word means.
I use i-net from about 5 years but I have few friends only. The most of the guys I have met wanted to come and visit me. Its ok and its the way I prefer. I visit only one of my friends last year, its not necessary to tell that he paid the ticket ( but not my passport and the bus tickets I needed to go to Sofia airport ) and he will come to visit me in few months .The problem is that all of them ( except one and we are very good friends with him ) wanted to come, to stay in my appartment. I dont mind it but not the first time so the only thing that I wrote to all of them was : " The hotel is a 100m from my appartment , its cheap - about 50 Euro/ night and its good one so if you want to visit me - I can book a room for you" The most of the guys just said " ok bye" . Its not ncessary to explain why they said that.
And there are some guys that was enough honest to tell me that the only reason that they want to visit me is sex. I refused it because if I want sex - I always can find it here in Bulgaria.
I have never expected the guy with me to pay all my bills or to pay in the restourant or cofe-shop. Sometimes I paid the bills although its the best way to mak the guy feeling uncomfortable.
So guys I know what is to be lonely but before to let the heart to think use your brian. Its really hard to find a real friends and its always better to have 1 than 100 . Its true that girls in east europe are not rich. I cant travel abroad because i dont get too much money but if you want to see any girl :
1. dont send her any money, send her a ticket. If she want money for bus ticket or passport - just leave her. Its absolutely possible for the girl to pay that.
2. its always better if you go to visit her but dont be stupid - book a hotel for 2-3 days. Its enough time to check how serious is the girl and not too long if you dont like her or she is not serious.Enough time to see the city and the country.
And something important - never ever believe when the girl begin to write love letter to you. The serious girls will never do it! They are like you- a bit afraid of what they will meet so I bet they will be more careful than you are .

Wish you luck guys ...
[:X]
Elena

Elena
08-22-2004, 04:29 PM
Johnny

Im really sorry about that but Im sure if you are still looking for the right woman - you will find her

Elena

Elena
08-22-2004, 10:19 PM
Lone Gunman
Men and wome cheat in different ways. Women want money, men - sex ( the most of the time). I met a really nice guy on i-net. I have met him few times and I really liked him. But after few meetings I saw that somehting is wrong. We have never been so close and once I asked him are we a real friends. He said 'yes'. Then I asked him about somehtings that I really though are strange. The problem was that I spend with him about 2 weeks in Bulgaria and the most of the time he was with the computer. Only at the night the comp was off and because he needed some sleep ... anyway ... we talked about that and he said that Im the best woman he ever met. To be honest I believe in that because I can read it on his face, the way he treated me, the things he did for me. He met me with his family and friends. I know every member of his family in person .After few month we met again and I spent with him few weeks again and it was almost the some... then I did somehting really wrong but Im not feeling sorry about it - I opened him e-mail. The things I saw scared me. he was just addicted to meet a new people... especially girls from russia that have sent him so many and I can say the some love letters.It really hurted me. Not the love letter I have read there... Hurted me that he cheated on me. I talked with him about it. Now we are good friends, maybe ecause I dont expect something more ... This is the only thing Im afraid of. I can trust to any guy but I will never be sure ( after all that happen to me ) that he is honest and he will not lie me. Small lies but ....

hmcwhannell
10-03-2004, 10:58 AM
quote:Originally posted by Lone Gunman

Fast, fast lady
A new fresh scenario rising?

A ridiculously young, sexy and model-like woman, claims she is about to get passport and visa for my country.
- In her third email.
She has also advised me to just wait for flight-number, date and time of day, for her arrival.

She also claims her employer pays the trip as a "fringe" for her. For a well done job.

When and in what way is it likely she will "screw" me?
What stunt is still left to be made?

So far I've told her nothing of significance about myself.
Reason: - I'm still waiting for answers for some questions from her.
She's "madly in love" and I, have not yet offered a single compliment, to her.

And she's too good to be true, so she's probably not true.

Any ideas guys?
Anyone been approached in this way?

:D

See ya


hmcwhannell

Egon
10-30-2004, 08:40 PM
Dear friends, I read with the greatest interest your postings, I m in contact with 4 girls from different countries (Russia (2), Belarus, Ukraina) I made the following expierience: It happen from time to time, that things going on fast ... with all 4 girls i'm good friend, no one asked me for money, they all are open to meet me in their country, I got telephone and adress from 3 of them - free I never paied for something - I'm 100 % sure that they are no scams, at least I tried to check it up on anti scam websites... But how can they fraud me if they don't ask for money ? But I did one necessary thing, in the first letter I wrote to them:

1.) I m really interested in a true relation
2.) I will never pay to you some money until I meet you and until we both are sure that we are meant for each other
3.) I will never become a member of a marriage agency and I will never pay to such a firm
4.) I will never become the victim of a scam !
5.) I wrote the truth about who I am, and what I am surching for and I wrote that I need not only a love for my heart ... and all this stupid phrases, I wrote that I need a woman with a strong brain and a woman who can use her hands, like every other mother and housewife !
6.) I even wrote about sex ! That I like it and I need a partner who enjoy it in the same way !

My last sentence in the letter was: IF YOU CANNOT AGREE WITH ONE OF THIS POINTS THAN D O N T REPLY PLEASE!

The result is, that I have 4 really nice contacts even very fast and free, with woman who are really interesting and who are interested in me, no photomodels in bikini on the photos, real girls who like my being open and who are open in the same way ! And all of them are very beautiful but that is a specific of girls from eastern europe :)

My Conviction about this is: Everything can happen, very fast even. But dont stop your brain ! Look in the mirror, look who you are ! And never send money ! Give it to her when you have seen her and when you have fallen in LOVE ! :)

Best greetings from germany !

Egon