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Trafaller
10-22-2005, 09:35 PM
I found an interesting online service - bride card. I can say that they saved me. The fact is that I met one charming lady from Russia 2 months ago. She was so pretty... I was in love with her... I called her several times - she wasn't in any Russian marriage agency and I thought I catched my chance. But I wanted to know if she is real? And then I decided to use that serice... In brief, I ordered a card for my Nina... And she didn't pass their verification. That service found she was a real single scammer... God, I was ready to send her $1250.00 for that damn notebook... So I decided to use that service in the future. Interesting and unusual thing... And they are independent - it's a great thing.
If you have your own experience with that service - let's discuss.

nick20045
10-22-2005, 09:48 PM
i would say "a two edged sword" to be honest.

put yourself in the womans shoes.......

imagine i have an agency like this one. i want a copy of your passport, id card, two forms of different utility bill, copy of your birth certificate, marraige certificate, divorce certificate, confirmation of being single, you full name, your full address, your bank statement for last 3 months, your last 3 months credit card statements, your mobile and home phone number.......... the list can be endless.....

would you send me this information?

if you asked ME for this information, i will say "heck no"!!!! ever heard of identity theft????



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-22-2005, 09:48 PM
i would say "a two edged sword" to be honest.

put yourself in the womans shoes.......

imagine i have an agency like this one. i want a copy of your passport, id card, two forms of different utility bill, copy of your birth certificate, marraige certificate, divorce certificate, confirmation of being single, you full name, your full address, your bank statement for last 3 months, your last 3 months credit card statements, your mobile and home phone number.......... the list can be endless.....

would you send me this information?

if you asked ME for this information, i will say "heck no"!!!! ever heard of identity theft????



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Trafaller
10-22-2005, 09:54 PM
The fact is that that service stores the information and you, as their client can't get it. So the woman can be sure that her information will be given only if she scams! I think that if you love, their verification - easy step to be together. Otherwise, I can ask - darling, why do you refuse to give them your real info? Maybe you are a scammer? As you understand, it's much better that asking about her scan directly. I think this way.

Trafaller
10-22-2005, 09:54 PM
The fact is that that service stores the information and you, as their client can't get it. So the woman can be sure that her information will be given only if she scams! I think that if you love, their verification - easy step to be together. Otherwise, I can ask - darling, why do you refuse to give them your real info? Maybe you are a scammer? As you understand, it's much better that asking about her scan directly. I think this way.

Robby45
10-23-2005, 04:26 PM
nick20045, I'm new here but I used this service recently. My girl agreed to pass their verification and now she obtained thier bridecard. I checked the number - she is OK! And she didn't say "heck no" - she really wants to be my life partner.
Therefore your opinion is only your one. :)

Robby45
10-23-2005, 04:26 PM
nick20045, I'm new here but I used this service recently. My girl agreed to pass their verification and now she obtained thier bridecard. I checked the number - she is OK! And she didn't say "heck no" - she really wants to be my life partner.
Therefore your opinion is only your one. :)

nick20045
10-23-2005, 05:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

she really wants to be my life partner.

personally, anybody who asks me for confidential information, my answer is "thanks but no thanks". you do not say where you live but, here in england, it has been found that people even go through garbage bins trying to find info to sell for identity theft.

i hope things work out for you with your woman. but, i was engaged to one from russia. she swore her undying love. when i was there, she would come on the mobile and cry her eyes out if she had to work overtime because she could not be with me. her dad even gave me his personal army watch and a photo of him and his wife to remember them. everything was bleeding perfect until......

i left. then for first few days, loads of text on mobile. after that.....

well you can guess. i did use the word "was" engaged. :D:D

anyway, what is to stop somebody (a scammer) using say a sisters identity? name, address, telephone number, etc? sister can be a nun in a convent. other one can be a devil in disguise. nothing is foolproof. ;););)

by the way, i like this. one member with one post advertising a site. one member with two posts (both about same thing i.e. bride card) backing him. cool. :D:D

anybody wants to take a shot at backing our private investigator who advertised his services??? :D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-23-2005, 05:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

she really wants to be my life partner.

personally, anybody who asks me for confidential information, my answer is "thanks but no thanks". you do not say where you live but, here in england, it has been found that people even go through garbage bins trying to find info to sell for identity theft.

i hope things work out for you with your woman. but, i was engaged to one from russia. she swore her undying love. when i was there, she would come on the mobile and cry her eyes out if she had to work overtime because she could not be with me. her dad even gave me his personal army watch and a photo of him and his wife to remember them. everything was bleeding perfect until......

i left. then for first few days, loads of text on mobile. after that.....

well you can guess. i did use the word "was" engaged. :D:D

anyway, what is to stop somebody (a scammer) using say a sisters identity? name, address, telephone number, etc? sister can be a nun in a convent. other one can be a devil in disguise. nothing is foolproof. ;););)

by the way, i like this. one member with one post advertising a site. one member with two posts (both about same thing i.e. bride card) backing him. cool. :D:D

anybody wants to take a shot at backing our private investigator who advertised his services??? :D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-23-2005, 05:36 PM
I don't advertise. No, thanks. I just was scammed several times and I'd perfer to see all the scammers in the prison. That's why I was glad when I had found that service. I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you? :D

Robby45
10-23-2005, 05:36 PM
I don't advertise. No, thanks. I just was scammed several times and I'd perfer to see all the scammers in the prison. That's why I was glad when I had found that service. I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you? :D

nick20045
10-23-2005, 06:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you? :D

i'm like st. thomas. only believe anything is real when i see it with my own eyes. :D:D;) then again even today, this is totally debateable......

how do you know she is a real woman and not an after op tv? what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"? is it she can cook? or is it she can nag? is it she can blow your mind off in bed? or is it how many headaches she has? :D:D:D:D the list in endless......

so what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"?

personally, i will ONLY take a sub to a card which will confirm:
a: she does not speak english and is not interested in learning english
b: she will work like a dog and pass on all money to me as she will not understand it
c: she knows how to cook
d: she knows how to keep a home clean
e: she likes wearing sexy clothing and knows when to drop them
f: when football is on, she goes to the kitchen and brings out a 6 pack
g: when friends come round, she is obedient, shuts up and just passes popcorn round.
h: she does not mind me looking at porn on magazines or the telly
i: she hates shopping for clothes, shoes, handbags and the such
j: minimum twice a year, she will invite her best and most georgeous girlfriend so we can have a threesome
k: the word "headache" is not in her vocabulary
l: neither is the words NO, BUT and IF
m: she loves the home and does not like to go on holidays when i travel
n: she hates pubs and clubs but does like me going to strip joints to further my carnal knowledge

anybody who thinks i have forgotten something in my list please let me know. i always like to learn. :D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-23-2005, 06:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you? :D

i'm like st. thomas. only believe anything is real when i see it with my own eyes. :D:D;) then again even today, this is totally debateable......

how do you know she is a real woman and not an after op tv? what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"? is it she can cook? or is it she can nag? is it she can blow your mind off in bed? or is it how many headaches she has? :D:D:D:D the list in endless......

so what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"?

personally, i will ONLY take a sub to a card which will confirm:
a: she does not speak english and is not interested in learning english
b: she will work like a dog and pass on all money to me as she will not understand it
c: she knows how to cook
d: she knows how to keep a home clean
e: she likes wearing sexy clothing and knows when to drop them
f: when football is on, she goes to the kitchen and brings out a 6 pack
g: when friends come round, she is obedient, shuts up and just passes popcorn round.
h: she does not mind me looking at porn on magazines or the telly
i: she hates shopping for clothes, shoes, handbags and the such
j: minimum twice a year, she will invite her best and most georgeous girlfriend so we can have a threesome
k: the word "headache" is not in her vocabulary
l: neither is the words NO, BUT and IF
m: she loves the home and does not like to go on holidays when i travel
n: she hates pubs and clubs but does like me going to strip joints to further my carnal knowledge

anybody who thinks i have forgotten something in my list please let me know. i always like to learn. :D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-23-2005, 06:15 PM
incidentally, to help the "original" poster....

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

notebooks start from US$499 (use google.com). even if go for the next one up at US$699, US$1250 less US$699 = US$551 which would have left you with most probably enough cash for the air ticket and the visa.

now, taking in consideration that she is going to be the lucky owner of a brand new notebook computer, i guess she would have invited you to stay at her home for the stay. :D so all that would be needed is a few hundred dollars for spending money.

so, tip: never send any money. if it comes to shove vs crunch, buy it yourself. take it with you. get free accomodation and if she gets on your nerves come back home with it. LOL. ;);)

i DO believe the motto is: NEVER SEND ANY MONEY



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-23-2005, 06:15 PM
incidentally, to help the "original" poster....

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

notebooks start from US$499 (use google.com). even if go for the next one up at US$699, US$1250 less US$699 = US$551 which would have left you with most probably enough cash for the air ticket and the visa.

now, taking in consideration that she is going to be the lucky owner of a brand new notebook computer, i guess she would have invited you to stay at her home for the stay. :D so all that would be needed is a few hundred dollars for spending money.

so, tip: never send any money. if it comes to shove vs crunch, buy it yourself. take it with you. get free accomodation and if she gets on your nerves come back home with it. LOL. ;);)

i DO believe the motto is: NEVER SEND ANY MONEY



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-23-2005, 09:59 PM
nick20045, let's be honest. The first question you ask your self when you meet a pretty girl online is "Is she real or a scammer?" As for me - I asked myself for hundred times.

Next, writing "real woman" I mean that she is a honest woman who is ready to pass their verification because she wants to be with me.
Please be serious.
And I ordered the card because I didn't want to waste my time corresponding with a phantom. Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her. You must agree, it's a good moment. :):):)

Robby45
10-23-2005, 09:59 PM
nick20045, let's be honest. The first question you ask your self when you meet a pretty girl online is "Is she real or a scammer?" As for me - I asked myself for hundred times.

Next, writing "real woman" I mean that she is a honest woman who is ready to pass their verification because she wants to be with me.
Please be serious.
And I ordered the card because I didn't want to waste my time corresponding with a phantom. Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her. You must agree, it's a good moment. :):):)

nick20045
10-23-2005, 10:25 PM
Robby45

have you not realised yet that i also have a "mad" sense of humour? :D:D:D

chill out man! if it works for you great.

p.s. no actually i do not ask if she is real or a scammer. i check her header. if i find the bat i am weary. i check the isp. if it does not tally with where she says she lives i drop her. i check the time she wrote. add 3 hours to have russian time. if it works out something like say 3am or thereabouts, no honest hard working woman will be up at that time writing a letter and then at 8am has to be at work.

if she says she uses the internet cafe and she writes at anytime past midnight, i do not care how much she says she loves me. no russian will go out at midnight just to go to an internet cafe.

if she says she is working from 8am to 6pm and has a computer at home and i "ping" it at say 2pm russian time and the computer is online, i dump her cos she is supposed to be at work.

if she makes promises and does not keep them, i dump her.

why? i am not desperate. (not implying that any member on here is) but i do not let love letters run either my heart or my testosterones (darn..... i bet i spelt that one wrong. lol).

if i find her ok. if not, heck.... had a penfriend for a while. i am not bothered. i know how to cook, i know how to keep a home. i am ok financially. not rich but not poor. middle class. i am not in need of a female to sort my life out. i love my life. the only difference with having a female is that have companionship. but then again, it does have its downsides as well....... nagging, getting told off. cannot watch what i want. cannot go where i want.

any woman i sent money to, i did it on my own accord. hence cannot be said i got scammed.

i work on a few rules:

1: she is a penfriend until meet. until then i can write to how many i want and so can she
2: when meet she is now a friend. it will be fair on other women to tell them that there is somebody interested in (so not waste their time and maybe money) but, there is a chance that somebody else may attract you more.
3: when have slept together now she is a girlfriend. that means termination of all other correspondence or, correspondence is only on the basis that they know the person is involved.
4: and MOST IMPORTANT...... if i have lived all this life without her, i can do the same amount of years without her if she leaves.

it is called once bitten twice shy. yes there is room in my life for a lifelong friend. but heck NO will i take crap from anybody.

i am just as happy being single as being with friends or in a relationship.

and as to all this posting "i fell in love with her through her letters" give me a break! sorry guys love me or hate me but it is balony. how do you know that when you meet she is not the ugliest looking thing on earth? or that the photo she sent you was after she had shaved off her moustache and beard? (yeah some women do have a moustache and beard lol). or that you may fancy her rotten and she does not fancy you. remember, letters can be deceptive. there is ALWAYS the physical attraction involved. she may say in her letter "i do not care what the person looks like. it is the heart i want to know what it is like". oh yeah! pull the other leg baby.:D

if i go to russia or anywhere, and i am supposed to meet somebody, to me, i am going on holiday.

if i like her and she likes me ok. if not.... heck i am on holiday. lets party.

but all this, princess, prince, love on the internet, have never met and i adore her........ sorry but pure balony.

chill out. do not send any money. take it easy. one day it will happen. until then, have fun. write a few letters. look at it as a penpal. and enjoy life. LOL.

p.s. quote: "Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her."

you have just contradicted traffalar. in an earlier post he said the information is held private. and....

so what are you telling me? you send her US$500. she scamms you. (it may be something genuine for all you know. computer down. broke a leg. was hit by a car and could not go on a pc for a month and you think she is a scammer) and you are going to buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia. maybe a train to where she lives. knock on the door. find Yuri with an ak47. to ask for the money back? :D:D:D LOL.


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-23-2005, 10:25 PM
Robby45

have you not realised yet that i also have a "mad" sense of humour? :D:D:D

chill out man! if it works for you great.

p.s. no actually i do not ask if she is real or a scammer. i check her header. if i find the bat i am weary. i check the isp. if it does not tally with where she says she lives i drop her. i check the time she wrote. add 3 hours to have russian time. if it works out something like say 3am or thereabouts, no honest hard working woman will be up at that time writing a letter and then at 8am has to be at work.

if she says she uses the internet cafe and she writes at anytime past midnight, i do not care how much she says she loves me. no russian will go out at midnight just to go to an internet cafe.

if she says she is working from 8am to 6pm and has a computer at home and i "ping" it at say 2pm russian time and the computer is online, i dump her cos she is supposed to be at work.

if she makes promises and does not keep them, i dump her.

why? i am not desperate. (not implying that any member on here is) but i do not let love letters run either my heart or my testosterones (darn..... i bet i spelt that one wrong. lol).

if i find her ok. if not, heck.... had a penfriend for a while. i am not bothered. i know how to cook, i know how to keep a home. i am ok financially. not rich but not poor. middle class. i am not in need of a female to sort my life out. i love my life. the only difference with having a female is that have companionship. but then again, it does have its downsides as well....... nagging, getting told off. cannot watch what i want. cannot go where i want.

any woman i sent money to, i did it on my own accord. hence cannot be said i got scammed.

i work on a few rules:

1: she is a penfriend until meet. until then i can write to how many i want and so can she
2: when meet she is now a friend. it will be fair on other women to tell them that there is somebody interested in (so not waste their time and maybe money) but, there is a chance that somebody else may attract you more.
3: when have slept together now she is a girlfriend. that means termination of all other correspondence or, correspondence is only on the basis that they know the person is involved.
4: and MOST IMPORTANT...... if i have lived all this life without her, i can do the same amount of years without her if she leaves.

it is called once bitten twice shy. yes there is room in my life for a lifelong friend. but heck NO will i take crap from anybody.

i am just as happy being single as being with friends or in a relationship.

and as to all this posting "i fell in love with her through her letters" give me a break! sorry guys love me or hate me but it is balony. how do you know that when you meet she is not the ugliest looking thing on earth? or that the photo she sent you was after she had shaved off her moustache and beard? (yeah some women do have a moustache and beard lol). or that you may fancy her rotten and she does not fancy you. remember, letters can be deceptive. there is ALWAYS the physical attraction involved. she may say in her letter "i do not care what the person looks like. it is the heart i want to know what it is like". oh yeah! pull the other leg baby.:D

if i go to russia or anywhere, and i am supposed to meet somebody, to me, i am going on holiday.

if i like her and she likes me ok. if not.... heck i am on holiday. lets party.

but all this, princess, prince, love on the internet, have never met and i adore her........ sorry but pure balony.

chill out. do not send any money. take it easy. one day it will happen. until then, have fun. write a few letters. look at it as a penpal. and enjoy life. LOL.

p.s. quote: "Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her."

you have just contradicted traffalar. in an earlier post he said the information is held private. and....

so what are you telling me? you send her US$500. she scamms you. (it may be something genuine for all you know. computer down. broke a leg. was hit by a car and could not go on a pc for a month and you think she is a scammer) and you are going to buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia. maybe a train to where she lives. knock on the door. find Yuri with an ak47. to ask for the money back? :D:D:D LOL.


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-29-2005, 12:20 PM
nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN. [8D][8D][8D]

Robby45
10-29-2005, 12:20 PM
nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN. [8D][8D][8D]

nick20045
10-29-2005, 02:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN. [8D][8D][8D]


ok. here is what i understand from what you say....

1: you are russian. clue: i will report her to MIA and second clue "an articile in the local russian newspapers.

2: you know sweet nothing. the russian police are not really bothered. only in "certain" times i.e. "if pushed" will they do something.

3: talk a load of balony. your friend caught a scammer!!! wow, tell him to wait in line for the noble prize. go on the internet and see how many scammers have been caught. please print a link to the "local newspapers" this was reported on and also what action interpol and the MIA took. what prison sentence she got. how he got his refund.

4: interpol gets involved because somebody scamms a few dollars!!!! give me a break. i have a police friend who is in what in malta is called the SAG. (special assignment group). he deals with interpol. and he knows of loads of people who got scammed and will tell you a very simple answer if you tell him.......... "tough luck never send any money unless you are a fool. if she REALLY wants to see you, she can borrow the money and then send the money to who she borrowed it from by western union. but ONLY after. and STILL there is no guarantee she is not just after a free holiday".

5: "To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN."

the only thing i understand is that anybody who has posted about this "so called bride card" has posted against it except you and the original poster. NO. I do not understand "the probability" and even using the word "probability" deminishes what you state in your comments. and as to being FULLY KNOWN!!!!! jeezzzzz it is the internt for crying out loud. she could be really YURI with a big fat stomach, who goes around drinking vodka, punching women and using his little sisters name and information.

i think you need to go and "peddle" your advise somewhere else. unless you may have not noticed........ nobody is falling for it. anybody who is a fool big enough to send money to a person (be it male, female, gay, transvestite, single, married, divorced, or whatever) just because somebody says "I have a Bride card", is a FOOL. and we all know what means......... say goodbye to your money.

i have a russian woman. NO BRIDE CARD. yes sometimes i "get in trouble with her" and get told off. (being a male i have that perogative). once i offered to send her money to help her out as she said she was unemployed and has a daughter (which is true as i met her and her daughter and they are 100% like the photos she sends). i got one of the biggest bollockings of my life!!!! about how i insulted her and got all sorts thrown at me.

i met her. she was just as happy going for a walk as going for a burger. nothing posh. and even go to a bar, have a glass of orange while i have my first pint. then when i order my second pint she will have a cup of coffee. then off. she wants to leave and return home. no fancy restaurants. no fancy nightclubs........

and i am meeting her again in december and still no Bride card.

and the one before her that i met was the same. the maximum i spent on her in one night was about 200 roubles. a meal at the restaurant of the hotel i was in. and if we ate out, she will only order one plate to keep the price of the bill down.

that is what to me says "a decent woman" not a bride card. and most members on here who have been either corresponding with some lady for a while, or have met their ladies, will also confirm what proves a decent woman.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-29-2005, 02:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN. [8D][8D][8D]


ok. here is what i understand from what you say....

1: you are russian. clue: i will report her to MIA and second clue "an articile in the local russian newspapers.

2: you know sweet nothing. the russian police are not really bothered. only in "certain" times i.e. "if pushed" will they do something.

3: talk a load of balony. your friend caught a scammer!!! wow, tell him to wait in line for the noble prize. go on the internet and see how many scammers have been caught. please print a link to the "local newspapers" this was reported on and also what action interpol and the MIA took. what prison sentence she got. how he got his refund.

4: interpol gets involved because somebody scamms a few dollars!!!! give me a break. i have a police friend who is in what in malta is called the SAG. (special assignment group). he deals with interpol. and he knows of loads of people who got scammed and will tell you a very simple answer if you tell him.......... "tough luck never send any money unless you are a fool. if she REALLY wants to see you, she can borrow the money and then send the money to who she borrowed it from by western union. but ONLY after. and STILL there is no guarantee she is not just after a free holiday".

5: "To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN."

the only thing i understand is that anybody who has posted about this "so called bride card" has posted against it except you and the original poster. NO. I do not understand "the probability" and even using the word "probability" deminishes what you state in your comments. and as to being FULLY KNOWN!!!!! jeezzzzz it is the internt for crying out loud. she could be really YURI with a big fat stomach, who goes around drinking vodka, punching women and using his little sisters name and information.

i think you need to go and "peddle" your advise somewhere else. unless you may have not noticed........ nobody is falling for it. anybody who is a fool big enough to send money to a person (be it male, female, gay, transvestite, single, married, divorced, or whatever) just because somebody says "I have a Bride card", is a FOOL. and we all know what means......... say goodbye to your money.

i have a russian woman. NO BRIDE CARD. yes sometimes i "get in trouble with her" and get told off. (being a male i have that perogative). once i offered to send her money to help her out as she said she was unemployed and has a daughter (which is true as i met her and her daughter and they are 100% like the photos she sends). i got one of the biggest bollockings of my life!!!! about how i insulted her and got all sorts thrown at me.

i met her. she was just as happy going for a walk as going for a burger. nothing posh. and even go to a bar, have a glass of orange while i have my first pint. then when i order my second pint she will have a cup of coffee. then off. she wants to leave and return home. no fancy restaurants. no fancy nightclubs........

and i am meeting her again in december and still no Bride card.

and the one before her that i met was the same. the maximum i spent on her in one night was about 200 roubles. a meal at the restaurant of the hotel i was in. and if we ate out, she will only order one plate to keep the price of the bill down.

that is what to me says "a decent woman" not a bride card. and most members on here who have been either corresponding with some lady for a while, or have met their ladies, will also confirm what proves a decent woman.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Decent woman...
nick20045 - you're like a radio - you read but don't understand!
Why do you write about the meeting? I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
And that service is like a "firewall". To the point, is it clever to ask for the passport at the meeting if I can check her reality right now, using that service? Why should I waste time trying to catch her if I can check it ina simple way???? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Robby45
10-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Decent woman...
nick20045 - you're like a radio - you read but don't understand!
Why do you write about the meeting? I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
And that service is like a "firewall". To the point, is it clever to ask for the passport at the meeting if I can check her reality right now, using that service? Why should I waste time trying to catch her if I can check it ina simple way???? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

nick20045
10-30-2005, 12:07 PM
BBC radio 1 here: :D:D

this is a repeat. :D:D i repeat this is a repeat.

read my story about the "father and the little boy" understand the moral of the story. just in case.......

never trust anybody 100%. will this card guarantee that she will like you 100% when you meet? will it guarantee she will be a good wife? will it guarantee she is not promiscuous? will it guarantee she can keep home, can cook and does not spend all your money. will be faithful until death do you part?

so if you want to trust "a total stranger" with your lovelife, up to you. personally, i wrote to a few ladies. slim the list down to the ones i really like and then simple process of elimination. BUT if it fails!!!! no problem. move on. no sense crying over spilt milk.

so lets say went to meet her. had a holiday. met somebody. she translated for me. she showed me the sights. maybe got the odd home made russian meal. she seems ok. great!!!!!

otherwise, move on.

and look at it from a positive view........

if you go to a different country. do not speak the language. you have somebody 24/7 (or maybe close to it), looking after you, translating for you, showing you all the places to visit how much will it cost if you had to hire a guide/translator/escort for a week??? remember, every cloud has a silver lining.

and last but not least, there is a BIG difference between you and me.

you tell about how you have a lot of money. you are drawing the wrong attention. and it does not pertain only to russians. it is all over the world. people who flash money get hit by hookers, bummers, scammers. they all want part of it.

i tell how i am middle class. not rich not poor. but all women i write to know that getting money out of me is like "getting blood out of a stone". if i haven't got it, i cannot send it. ;););)

p.s. i have a "brat card". is that any good? :D:D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-30-2005, 12:07 PM
BBC radio 1 here: :D:D

this is a repeat. :D:D i repeat this is a repeat.

read my story about the "father and the little boy" understand the moral of the story. just in case.......

never trust anybody 100%. will this card guarantee that she will like you 100% when you meet? will it guarantee she will be a good wife? will it guarantee she is not promiscuous? will it guarantee she can keep home, can cook and does not spend all your money. will be faithful until death do you part?

so if you want to trust "a total stranger" with your lovelife, up to you. personally, i wrote to a few ladies. slim the list down to the ones i really like and then simple process of elimination. BUT if it fails!!!! no problem. move on. no sense crying over spilt milk.

so lets say went to meet her. had a holiday. met somebody. she translated for me. she showed me the sights. maybe got the odd home made russian meal. she seems ok. great!!!!!

otherwise, move on.

and look at it from a positive view........

if you go to a different country. do not speak the language. you have somebody 24/7 (or maybe close to it), looking after you, translating for you, showing you all the places to visit how much will it cost if you had to hire a guide/translator/escort for a week??? remember, every cloud has a silver lining.

and last but not least, there is a BIG difference between you and me.

you tell about how you have a lot of money. you are drawing the wrong attention. and it does not pertain only to russians. it is all over the world. people who flash money get hit by hookers, bummers, scammers. they all want part of it.

i tell how i am middle class. not rich not poor. but all women i write to know that getting money out of me is like "getting blood out of a stone". if i haven't got it, i cannot send it. ;););)

p.s. i have a "brat card". is that any good? :D:D:D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-30-2005, 12:42 PM
"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian. :D:D:D
Next, I repeat, I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
I do agree, that your words about meeting and the following difficulties are right. But I mean the first communicating. :D:D:D

Robby45
10-30-2005, 12:42 PM
"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian. :D:D:D
Next, I repeat, I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
I do agree, that your words about meeting and the following difficulties are right. But I mean the first communicating. :D:D:D

nick20045
10-30-2005, 12:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian. :D:D:D understand and do not assume. i said "does not only pertain to russians but all over the world". it means, anybody, anywhere in the world who flashes money is asking to be scammed/hustled.

quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"Next, I repeat, so you are BBC radio 2?
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.[/b]

very simple. do not flash your money. do not brag about it. and most of all DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY.

bbc radio 1 now is closing the service. :D:D please watch BBC world. it is received in a lot of different countries. repeats are every 30 minutes. :D:D:D

hey! joking apart. has anybody walked into a 5 star hotel. they brag about how they have english tv. and all you have is BBC World?? repeats every 30 minutes. drives you mad!!!!! now that is a scam cos we pay licence for it!!!!

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-30-2005, 12:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian. :D:D:D understand and do not assume. i said "does not only pertain to russians but all over the world". it means, anybody, anywhere in the world who flashes money is asking to be scammed/hustled.

quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"Next, I repeat, so you are BBC radio 2?
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

"I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.[/b]

very simple. do not flash your money. do not brag about it. and most of all DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY.

bbc radio 1 now is closing the service. :D:D please watch BBC world. it is received in a lot of different countries. repeats are every 30 minutes. :D:D:D

hey! joking apart. has anybody walked into a 5 star hotel. they brag about how they have english tv. and all you have is BBC World?? repeats every 30 minutes. drives you mad!!!!! now that is a scam cos we pay licence for it!!!!

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-30-2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah, I'm BBC radio 2! :D:D:D
Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner. Surely all your recomendations are a good guide for all who involved in dating. I don't deny this. :)

Robby45
10-30-2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah, I'm BBC radio 2! :D:D:D
Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner. Surely all your recomendations are a good guide for all who involved in dating. I don't deny this. :)

nick20045
10-30-2005, 01:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner. :)

/me has my "brat card". i use it with love.

so..... if we take a muslim, and i have learnt that in kazan a muslim can have more then one wife, does he have to order say "a dozen"???? :D:D:D will he get a discount??? :D:D

anyway having read all these posts, how many members and admins/mods are by now either on valium or prozac???? :D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-30-2005, 01:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robby45

Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner. :)

/me has my "brat card". i use it with love.

so..... if we take a muslim, and i have learnt that in kazan a muslim can have more then one wife, does he have to order say "a dozen"???? :D:D:D will he get a discount??? :D:D

anyway having read all these posts, how many members and admins/mods are by now either on valium or prozac???? :D


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

Robby45
10-30-2005, 01:42 PM
To the point, what means "brat card"? What is "brat"?

Robby45
10-30-2005, 01:42 PM
To the point, what means "brat card"? What is "brat"?

nick20045
10-30-2005, 02:15 PM
brat. from the oxford english dictionary.

in contemptuous sense

hence having a "brat card" means i am always in contempt. :D:D

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
10-30-2005, 02:15 PM
brat. from the oxford english dictionary.

in contemptuous sense

hence having a "brat card" means i am always in contempt. :D:D

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

WindDevil
11-10-2005, 02:25 AM
Hey nick20045 let me know more about the id theft and if any good examples of what they can do LOL
I might have that problem LOL

nick20045
11-10-2005, 02:28 AM
http://www.joincreditexpert.com/idfraud/?sc=410006&bcd=nonbrandsxxxxx124172

http://news.google.com/news?q=identity+theft&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=nn&oi=newsr

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=identity+theft&btnG=Google+Search

have fun.

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

hearty
09-20-2006, 09:58 AM
You can only say that she is a" Real Woman "if that woman will stay with you forever no matter whatever happens to ya.So for now never say shes's a real woman.Got it???

hearty Philippines

andymanx
07-29-2007, 10:45 AM
What is a "bride card"? And where can I buy one from?


quote:Originally posted by Trafaller

I found an interesting online service - bride card. I can say that they saved me. The fact is that I met one charming lady from Russia 2 months ago. She was so pretty... I was in love with her... I called her several times - she wasn't in any Russian marriage agency and I thought I catched my chance. But I wanted to know if she is real? And then I decided to use that serice... In brief, I ordered a card for my Nina... And she didn't pass their verification. That service found she was a real single scammer... God, I was ready to send her $1250.00 for that damn notebook... So I decided to use that service in the future. Interesting and unusual thing... And they are independent - it's a great thing.
If you have your own experience with that service - let's discuss.

ham
07-30-2007, 02:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by andymanx

What is a "bride card"? And where can I buy one from?


quote:Originally posted by Trafaller

I found an interesting online service - bride card. I can say that they saved me. The fact is that I met one charming lady from Russia 2 months ago. She was so pretty... I was in love with her... I called her several times - she wasn't in any Russian marriage agency and I thought I catched my chance. But I wanted to know if she is real? And then I decided to use that serice... In brief, I ordered a card for my Nina... And she didn't pass their verification. That service found she was a real single scammer... God, I was ready to send her $1250.00 for that damn notebook... So I decided to use that service in the future. Interesting and unusual thing... And they are independent - it's a great thing.
If you have your own experience with that service - let's discuss.



it was a "check her up" services promoted by trolls all over MOB forums time ago.
As said, i think the operation is a rip-off, but in case they (if they are still around) truly manage to contact women to vet them:
a) many will turn the request down out of privacy concerns
b) if among those who go through the procedure there ARE scammers, what are YOU (any man) going to do?
I) convince the guys at the service to release the info...hmmm...they got your money...ehm...business already, so why would they care?
II) if ever you manage to get an identity, what are you going to do? CIA, INTERPOL, hit-men...please! Much easier NEVER TO SEND MONEY TO STRANGERS.

As well, beware of online background check providers: ALL of them.
http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=786
http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=778

shilohkid13
08-25-2007, 10:03 PM
Does anyone know anything about Daria P. #4016 on UA Ladys.com website? I have been reading many posts that say she is not real, at least not in the sense that you think she is. Several people have written about her and Ian posted links to Carey Tola Spencer, Carey Bright Spencer, etc.

From Ian's post:
I am still reading about "Diana P" (he is referring to Daria P.)and i have told you, i am the person that was scammed by Bright Carey Spencer, Tola Carey Spencer, Tola Falola Salvage. She is not Russian, she is Nigerian. she is from Lagos Nigeria. Anyone who want photosof this person can email me at IAN_METCALFE41@YAHOO.CO.UK and i will send you the photos, the passport photos, the export papers, the hotel receipts,a photo of the hotel,phone numbers,photos of the person i saw on a web cam after i found out that she was black and a list of the names i was asked to send cheques too and they amounts..

I went to these sites and saw photos of her and a Nigerian Lady using the same name. I am trying to copy the webpages here, but it won't let me. I'll do my best to post most of what I am referring to.

http://www.stop-scammers.com/browseall.asp?page=157
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

I thought she was just a victim in this case, but I have read several posts claiming they have visited her in January, and April or May. The guy that went in January said he waited at a cafe at 5am, but she didn't show and later said she had to work. The next guy said he did see her and is emailing her now. Funny. I though I was the only person she was talking to. I also got information from posters named Prometheus, warpnacell, bachelorboy101, and Glimmertwin34, just to name a few. I told her about the fake passport and documents, and she claimed she knew nothing about them and asked the agency if it was possible for someone to steal her pictures. Here is a reply she sent me on August 23rd, 2007:

"Hello, Mark!

I don't want to comment everything in your letters, I've come to the agency in a high spirit, we are having a holiday tomorrow.

But after reading your letters I was frightened a little. I asked at the agency if it is possible that my pictures can be stolen and put in another web-site. They said that iit is impossible and showed me several pictures - they have so called watermarks "ualadys" on them. I brought my pictures here, they scanned them and put those watermarks. But you really scared me, I don't want to be involved into some bad sites.

You say that you love me and at the same time you do not trust me. What shall I think about this? You know it is impossible to build the relations without trust.

What is the problem? Can't you wait till the 28th of August? You've been waiting for such a long time! And you cannot wait a few days!

I asked and the agency's manager explained to me what that video-conference mean more detailed. I liked that way of communication very much, sure i would like to talk to you in real. And besides we will be able to see each other not on the pictures, but like in reality on the monitors.

And I also remembered that there is a great difference in time between our countries, so we must pay attention to this too.

I would like to try this kind of speaking to you, but only if you are in a good mood, without your suspicions and rude jokes!

I am waiting for your rely,

Have a nice day,

Sincerely,

Daria."

I replied and told her that it was possible to copy these photos, at least the old photos because I did it before I actually bought the originals. I have been talking to this girl since 04 Feb. 2005. I am currently enrolled in college. I took two semesters off to work. I have tried a few times before to travel to her city, but it seems that she is never sure if she will not have classes then and I usually end up not going.

Later she wrote:

"August 24th, 2007:

You know, your letters really scare me. It seems to me that you are a very suspicious person and you don?t trust anyone. I`m not going to wrote you right now everything about me, because we were corresponding for so long and I wrote you thousands of times about my life and me personally. Wait till the 28th of August and I?ll choose the suitable day for us to talk. You will see me in your screen and talk to me. Won?t it be the proof for you that I?m alive?"

August 25th, 2007:

" You know, God is always testing our faith and gives us difficult periods of life to cope wit the. I can`t tell you exactly that I love you, because I`ve never seen you in real life. You even don?t want to send me your pictures. But I know that have a strong affection to you. I don`t want to give you personal info about me, but you are hiding even your appearance? Why are you so secretive from me?

Have a very nice day,

Take care,

Daria "

Here is the letter I was looking for:

Daria P. #4016
Mark H. #______
22 August 2007

Hello, Mark!

The letter was translated for Daria by Olga.

Hello, Mark!

Thank you for spending so much time on me! You have sent the four letters to me and this has taken a great deal of time to read them all. I didn't think that I have to explain to you my schedule at work and college time-table and when i come to the agency. But in this letter I will do this again for to understand that it also demands my time, but it is not a problem for me for I also care of you and have some special attitude to you.

I work usually from 9 a.m. till 10 p.m. with a dinner break. I do not have fixed days-off so sometimes my days-off are at weekend and sometimes on week-days. My time table at college is usually known to the students at the beginning of the academic year. I used to go there earlier just because I had to find a flat or a room to stay in or arrange the room at the hostel. Why this year will be more difficult and different because it will be the last year and the diploma paper demands some more time. I know several students who studied in Kiev (which is much closer to Zhitomir) and they had to stay there for much more time than usual just because their papers' supervisors were always busy and they had to wait till they became free to help them. This also caused the need to arrange the work schedule in a different way for the session periods.

Your words are all built on the education system of America, but this doesn't mean that American system is absolutely similar to the Ukrainian one. In our country students by correspondence as well as the common students can have sessions in different time. Some examinations really are conducted on the 30-31st of December.

The only reason why I don't tell you the exact day now is that I don't want to invite you on a particular day and then it will turn out that I am to be at the college. I don't want you to spend money for the ticket till I know the exact time-table. Why don?t you want to wait a couple of days till I am able to tell you more exactly? I just care about your time.

And I really live not far from the agency?s office and that is why I sometimes come here before or after the work. But this doesn?t mean that my work place is close too. I have to spend the dinner break to read your letters and write mine. Since your letters are a few and not very short I ask sometimes to translate them with the electronic translator.

This will also your question. Sometimes I really don?t eat, I mean that sometimes I have not time to eat during the dinner break.

This all is also very disappointing for me, I want to be absolutely exact with the date of your coming because I care of you and you don?t want to see this care and such letters.

I will be able to tell you exactly after the 28th of August. But only if you want to become again the Mark I knew before and really wish to come and see me and have nice attitude to me.

But if you trust some women from the Internet, but not me, perhaps you should meet with them?!

Sorry, if this letter will disappoint you. This was not my aim, I just want to explain you what you meant to me and that if I cannot do something that is just because I want to be sincere and exact with the dates.

Have a nice day,

Sincerely,

Daria."

See, she uses the excuse that she doesn't want to give me an exact date because she doesn't want me to waste my money. As a matter of fact, I am confused. If she is scamming me, then why hasn't she asked me for any money in 31 months? I have been talking to a friend of mine and we agree that she is probably selling her photos to UA Ladys to sucker more men into writing her and buying their services. Since I write long letters to her, she has no choice but to write to me specifically. Well, SOMEONE is writing to me specifically, maybe a translator. Big harry Yorgi, maybe. I also told my friend that maybe she is living a different lifestyle and has to wait until the 28th before she can be off work or whatever, and that she will need this time to get there. Another hypothesis is that she is spending her time now with someone else that has booked a trip to see her and she will be busy until after he leaves. I have read so many posts, some that appear fake and many that appear genuine, that I don't know what to believe any longer. I just don't want this all to be a nightmare. She has sent me about 100-140 photos and I bet I have paid for about 100 of them over the years. I never had a reason to suspect she was part of a scam so I blindly bought them. I have been explaining to her all of the information I have been reading lately, and she tries to dismiss it and says it is not true. I told Sergey in customer support all about it and the name of her University she gave me when she first wrote to me. I told him I found only one non-functioning site of her college from 2006-2007. I looked everywhere, including Wikipedia and found only one refernce to it from a Ukrainian lady named Lyudmilla. After reading my 2000 word description of what was going on, Sergey wrote:

August 22, 2007
Dear Mark

You can order the phone conversation or video conference to Dasha. And after you talk to her all your suspicions will be revealed.

Her photo was just stolen and used.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully

Sergey Shkolnik

Support Service"

I tried to write back and explain everything to him again and this is what he wrote the second time:

August 23, 2007
Dear Mark

I have contacted Zhitomir branch, where Daria is listed and they say that she has no problems to come and talk to you - to take part in the Video Conference - which allows you to see and to hear the lady online.

But she would be very glad to talk after the 28th of August, because currently she is really very busy. So you can freely order the Conference after the 28th and we hope that it will reveal all your suspicions after you talk to Daria.

Concerning the bad posts on forums - they are mostly fake and posted by the orders of our rivals, who post them, taking no responsibility for their words in a great wish to take the good clients from us.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully

Sergey Shkolnik

Support Service

I wrote him again and explained about the fake University name and how pointless the video would be as proof the girl writing to me was the girl in the photos, and he wrote:

Dear Mark

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

Of course Daria\'s photo was just stolen and used by some scammers. She has nothing to do with that issue. Please don\'t worry!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully

Sergey Shkolnik

Support Service

on August 25, 2007:

Dear Mark

Please tell me what name of the University she told you, I will check it.

Concerning the web-cams and that you don\'t see her. If a lady is busy, maybe the staff dictates her the letters by phone and she dictates the replies. This happens. We also try make the process comfortable for lady.

I advised you to order the conference because it will reveal everything and you will ask your lady about everything - the Nigerian things and your future. She agrees to talk to you and she will gladly do that.

Have a good day, and a nice weekend, Mark!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Yours respectfully

Sergey Shkolnik

Support Service "

Man! It seems he is finally getting the picture, but that is when I spoke with my friend and discussed all of this. Maybe Daria doesn't ask for money because I am already funding her lifestyle with the money I am giving to the agency to write to her and the photos I buy of her. I have on a few occasions sent her flowers and chocolates. I even sent her a package once with several gifts. I explained her the reasons I needed proof, that I needed to know that the girl in the photos is the person writing to me. The letters could be written by someone else using her photos to hide behind. As far as the University goes, maybe her exams and talk of the University is real because I am funding her way through a different college or other lifestyle at home. I told her that the video conference would prove nothing because the person writing the letters could easily hire the real girl in the photos to sit through a video conference with me and look happy. She could be saying anything when being asked to answer questions and the translator would tell me only what she thought I needed to hear or was being paid to say to me. I am curious what Daria P. #4016 will say Monday in her reply. Everything seems as it should if this were all real. If this is a scam, then these people are really doing their homework. I am so confused that I don't trust anyone anymore. Here's another question to drive you nuts: What if she is finally tired of all the games and really is being truthful with me this time and just wants to get away from the agency and her life? My next step is to figure out if I can go back and get any refunds on my credit card for some or all of the charges to CC/UALadys. I doubt it very seriously, but it is worth a try. Anyone know of any lawsuits against this company over this girl? I need to know how to get my money back and what to do. My emails are still paid up until Sept. 14th, so I plan to keep writing her everyday to see what stories she makes up next. My only problem is what if she tells me everything I want to know and gives me evidence that she is real? I know that doesn't prove her intentions are true, but it would mean that she is trying to do something to show me she is being honest. Maybe the agency is all at fault here and she doesn't know much of what is going on. I even asked Sergey to show me a copy of a police/Interpol report or something to prove her identity, then I realized this wouldn't work either. I already this girl exists. I need to know if she is being honest with me in her letters. I am so confused and want this to be real so bad that I can't be objective about it any longer. Guys, send me any information you can about her. I am trying to copy all of my old emails and build up sheets of information concerning her and other people that say they have been defrauded by her, just in case I need them for later. What sucks is that she has written more than 600 replies to me in 2.5 years and I have written about twice as many letters in that time. It takes many hours just to copy and paste those letters. Any info, help, advice, and a kick in the pants would be helpful here guys.

Mark Hurst

shilohkid13
08-25-2007, 10:06 PM
I just found a website that answered my questions. Dasha is already married and the agency is using her photos to lure unsuspecting mails to their website. She is not listed any longer on the top 110, but you can still write to her or see her profile the other way.

This girl has been published in a book, so every guy on the internet needs to know not to ever write to her.


Mark Hurst

sahappyc
08-29-2007, 01:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by Trafaller

I found an interesting online service - bride card. I can say that they saved me. The fact is that I met one charming lady from Russia 2 months ago. She was so pretty... I was in love with her... I called her several times - she wasn't in any Russian marriage agency and I thought I catched my chance. But I wanted to know if she is real? And then I decided to use that serice... In brief, I ordered a card for my Nina... And she didn't pass their verification. That service found she was a real single scammer... God, I was ready to send her $1250.00 for that damn notebook... So I decided to use that service in the future. Interesting and unusual thing... And they are independent - it's a great thing.
If you have your own experience with that service - let's discuss.


Chris Cope

PeopleSmoks
09-01-2007, 10:38 PM
Hey guys! Once upon a time, I was the Train, but I can't login with that for some reason anymore. I've been away for a while and that might have something to do with it?

shilohkid13, I have to tell you to run away!!! I've seen that when a web site maintains exclusive rights to contacting a girl it's for only one reason... YOUR MONEY!!! I haven't used them, but I found a US based translation service that charges $40/ month USD for unlimited correspondence. Granted, I could offer the same deal myself by using an online electronic translator, and who would know? The point is, if you have to pay for each letter to and from the girl, plus for photos to be "printed" or downloaded, it's going to add up. The hook is... "IS SHE THE ONE?"

It sounds cold, but as soon as you have the first doubt in your head, it's time to run away. It sucks to think that she may have been real, but it also sucks to WU your hard earned cash to Ivan.

Train returns