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peterdragon
11-02-2005, 06:12 PM
hey nick20045 i would like to chat with you about different tracker programs i have been using visual route and email tracker pro and after reading your post on neotracker decided to try it to have a few questions on it and the others one is ran the same info into all 3 and on a few came up with 3 different answers ?could be me as I said just learning ...now to you and anyone else interested and i will try and keep this as short as possible (lol not a chance) lol
hers my story ...
i started writing to someone in may of this year and in june by accident found this site and of course her pictures and everything else sad day ...asked her about it in the next email and she replied it was true she had been scamming guys and had not been honest with me but would be now she did over the next month do the typical visa blah blah all that scam ..told her i wouldnt send any money because of the things on here about her until i know she is sincere right up to today she still writes me still wants to meet(I do still think she or who ever it is is a scam but i do enjoy the letters ...once in awhile she will ask for money for internet cafe but continues to write ... as for the others I have written to some are obvious from the beginning others takes a bit but i am narrowing down my list of possibilities ..of the 2 main ones I write to ...not counting her ...one has from the second letter admitted to trying to scam me because of things i found on another site and stopped writing me for a few days then started again we have since then agreed that I think she is trying to scam me and she thinks she hasnt decided but we enjoy our letters to each other and have fun writing so here we are the second who I must say is on the top of my list has never asked more money has never done anything to suggest she is a scammer and to me has been very honest on everything as far as i can tell ...she has even because i went a week not hearing from her...she explained that she could not spare the money to go to the internet cafe very often to write me maybe only once or twice a week I did at that time offer her the money for this which in her next letter she politely refused and we are still writing and she has never asked for money for anything and things between us have become to say the least very serious but at a pace 2 people would in a normal relationship we will see ...so basically thats my story if anyone has any comments advice what ever ...thanks

Giles
11-02-2005, 06:36 PM
I use Visual route as well!..

My scammer is listed on this site and others!. (Havent told her the sites though).
Asked her about it and said someone put a virus on her pc to get her details. She said she only goes to internet cafes twice a week because of cost. Lie because for a few days i kept filling her 4 email boxes up, and each day they were emptied. !!
Is there a Bat emailer reference in the message header ?

Just my view.

Now I'm not Buffy's Watcher I need a new Hobby.
Well I could get the Kawasaki ZX-9R out. Warp speed Mr Sulu.

Giles
11-02-2005, 06:36 PM
I use Visual route as well!..

My scammer is listed on this site and others!. (Havent told her the sites though).
Asked her about it and said someone put a virus on her pc to get her details. She said she only goes to internet cafes twice a week because of cost. Lie because for a few days i kept filling her 4 email boxes up, and each day they were emptied. !!
Is there a Bat emailer reference in the message header ?

Just my view.

Now I'm not Buffy's Watcher I need a new Hobby.
Well I could get the Kawasaki ZX-9R out. Warp speed Mr Sulu.

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 06:38 PM
hi yes there is a bat program on a few of them the one i know is scamming me and few of the others

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 06:38 PM
hi yes there is a bat program on a few of them the one i know is scamming me and few of the others

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 07:26 PM
had a thought on the bat thing .or a question ..could it be possible that what ever internet cafe has this program on there computers
i guess asking if it is a program the internet cafe may have put on and what ever woman not knowing this sending the e-mail i think i worded that the way i want

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 07:26 PM
had a thought on the bat thing .or a question ..could it be possible that what ever internet cafe has this program on there computers
i guess asking if it is a program the internet cafe may have put on and what ever woman not knowing this sending the e-mail i think i worded that the way i want

nick20045
11-02-2005, 07:52 PM
if you want a copy of neotrace send me a mail and i will send you a copy. there is also one called magic net trace which does basically the same thing and also one called ip scanner.

neotrace and magic net trace give out the location. ip scanner, can trace if the pc is online at the moment of pinging.

you say you get different locatins. most probably you are using the wrong isp.

in a header you get the isp of the provider and the isp of the computer.

re saying "i was a scammer but i am not now" remember....

a leopard is hard to loose its spots. move on.

as to how good she is and how she says so and so........

use your head. scammers are not just after cash. there are scammers who want free holidays. others who will wait until you visit and take you for every penny with meals, clothes, presents etc etc. others have been known to marry and take the husband to the cleaners.

as for internet it works out about 3 roubles a minute in an internet cafe. 28 roubles = 1 dollar.

at home it is about $1 an hour.

prices correct as per when i was there and info received from a girl i write to.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 07:52 PM
if you want a copy of neotrace send me a mail and i will send you a copy. there is also one called magic net trace which does basically the same thing and also one called ip scanner.

neotrace and magic net trace give out the location. ip scanner, can trace if the pc is online at the moment of pinging.

you say you get different locatins. most probably you are using the wrong isp.

in a header you get the isp of the provider and the isp of the computer.

re saying "i was a scammer but i am not now" remember....

a leopard is hard to loose its spots. move on.

as to how good she is and how she says so and so........

use your head. scammers are not just after cash. there are scammers who want free holidays. others who will wait until you visit and take you for every penny with meals, clothes, presents etc etc. others have been known to marry and take the husband to the cleaners.

as for internet it works out about 3 roubles a minute in an internet cafe. 28 roubles = 1 dollar.

at home it is about $1 an hour.

prices correct as per when i was there and info received from a girl i write to.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 07:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by peterdragon

had a thought on the bat thing .or a question ..could it be possible that what ever internet cafe has this program on there computers
i guess asking if it is a program the internet cafe may have put on and what ever woman not knowing this sending the e-mail i think i worded that the way i want

would not say so.

a: the program is something that a person has to use. it is not an "automatic" program.

b: an internet cafe owner is not going to put something on a pc to "facilitate" the usage. he/she wants the user to spend as much time as possible. more time = more money.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 07:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by peterdragon

had a thought on the bat thing .or a question ..could it be possible that what ever internet cafe has this program on there computers
i guess asking if it is a program the internet cafe may have put on and what ever woman not knowing this sending the e-mail i think i worded that the way i want

would not say so.

a: the program is something that a person has to use. it is not an "automatic" program.

b: an internet cafe owner is not going to put something on a pc to "facilitate" the usage. he/she wants the user to spend as much time as possible. more time = more money.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:03 PM
downloaded neotrace last night ...the differences i was getting was between the different programs neotrace would give one location for computer and visual route would give another

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:03 PM
downloaded neotrace last night ...the differences i was getting was between the different programs neotrace would give one location for computer and visual route would give another

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:15 PM
this is a mail from a scammer. do a trace on it and let me know where it takes you. i already know.

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to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:15 PM
this is a mail from a scammer. do a trace on it and let me know where it takes you. i already know.

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to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:16 PM
so basially your saying if they are using a bat program then its a scam

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:16 PM
so basially your saying if they are using a bat program then its a scam

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:22 PM
visual route says yoshkar ola mari el

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:22 PM
visual route says yoshkar ola mari el

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:24 PM
got yoshkar ola on neotrace to

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:24 PM
got yoshkar ola on neotrace to

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:27 PM
correct. yoshkar ola.

NO i am NOT saying if there is the bat it is a scam. i am saying (and most on here i think will agree with me) if she uses the bat, be extra careful.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:27 PM
correct. yoshkar ola.

NO i am NOT saying if there is the bat it is a scam. i am saying (and most on here i think will agree with me) if she uses the bat, be extra careful.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Return-Path: <olgaxxxxxx@mail.ru> if you neotrace this, you get location of mail.ru server
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you can neotrace an e mail address. even a servers location. e.g. if you take the address of this forum and neo trace it (http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/post.asp?method=Edit&REPLY_ID=2927&TOPIC_ID=411&FORUM_ID=5) you will get this server is in Yonkers USA.


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Return-Path: <olgaxxxxxx@mail.ru> if you neotrace this, you get location of mail.ru server
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by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp this is her pc. notice it says port=62445. that is the port being used by the pc to send the message. hello = user-3df99615b1 is her pc "name". also this shows it is a home pc not internet cafe
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you can neotrace an e mail address. even a servers location. e.g. if you take the address of this forum and neo trace it (http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/post.asp?method=Edit&REPLY_ID=2927&TOPIC_ID=411&FORUM_ID=5) you will get this server is in Yonkers USA.


to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:38 PM
ok as i said learning ...lol and if nothing else i am having fun ... i have learned over the last few months that i would be alot better scammer than some of the things i get ..had a e-mail about millions of dollars they would send me if i would pose as a realative so i ran a trace on it few minutes later got another and they both traced back to same computer everything just different story and names so for the foun of it i forwarded them back to the oppisite names telling them if they are gonna run to different scams they might think on using 2 different computers ...got a e-mail back about 5 minutes later asking me how i did that and hoew i was able to figure it out

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 08:38 PM
ok as i said learning ...lol and if nothing else i am having fun ... i have learned over the last few months that i would be alot better scammer than some of the things i get ..had a e-mail about millions of dollars they would send me if i would pose as a realative so i ran a trace on it few minutes later got another and they both traced back to same computer everything just different story and names so for the foun of it i forwarded them back to the oppisite names telling them if they are gonna run to different scams they might think on using 2 different computers ...got a e-mail back about 5 minutes later asking me how i did that and hoew i was able to figure it out

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
now go on neotrace and look up the addressee and check where it says whois/ripe

you can then find out who owns that isp range.

next download isp scanner. and you can ping the computer and see if it is online or not.

other one is when she says she works in a shop during the day but sends you a mail at 4 or 5 am from an internet cafe. everyone i challanged about how is at an internet cafe at 4am, in freezing weather, never wrote back to explain. common logic. nobody in their right mind, goes out to an internet cafe at 4am especially now when it is starting to snow and get below freezing. she may love you but she must be nuts to do that. :D:D:D

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
now go on neotrace and look up the addressee and check where it says whois/ripe

you can then find out who owns that isp range.

next download isp scanner. and you can ping the computer and see if it is online or not.

other one is when she says she works in a shop during the day but sends you a mail at 4 or 5 am from an internet cafe. everyone i challanged about how is at an internet cafe at 4am, in freezing weather, never wrote back to explain. common logic. nobody in their right mind, goes out to an internet cafe at 4am especially now when it is starting to snow and get below freezing. she may love you but she must be nuts to do that. :D:D:D

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 09:07 PM
ok how did you put the header information on your post i will snd you one that i know is a scam but would like to hear your thoughts on it

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 09:07 PM
ok how did you put the header information on your post i will snd you one that i know is a scam but would like to hear your thoughts on it

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 11:18 PM
hey nik can you send me the link to the isp scanner you said to download thanks

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 11:18 PM
hey nik can you send me the link to the isp scanner you said to download thanks

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 11:32 PM
also nick i have a isp number i would like you to trace the final thing on it comes up with a ? mark didnt know if i should put the number up on here or not so i will wait until i here from you

peterdragon
11-02-2005, 11:32 PM
also nick i have a isp number i would like you to trace the final thing on it comes up with a ? mark didnt know if i should put the number up on here or not so i will wait until i here from you

nick20045
11-02-2005, 11:37 PM
deleted the download link. it is not the same as what i have and it is crap. also a 10 day trial. if you want a copy of the one i use send me a mail and will send it to you.

re header...... been talked about on other threads

outlook express, right click on letter, properties, details, message source make box bigger all info in there



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 11:37 PM
deleted the download link. it is not the same as what i have and it is crap. also a 10 day trial. if you want a copy of the one i use send me a mail and will send it to you.

re header...... been talked about on other threads

outlook express, right click on letter, properties, details, message source make box bigger all info in there



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 11:40 PM
as far as i know ? means pc is switched off at the moment or not connected to the internet. hence tracer cannot ping pc. so you get last known node.

usually shows it is a home pc not internet cafe.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-02-2005, 11:40 PM
as far as i know ? means pc is switched off at the moment or not connected to the internet. hence tracer cannot ping pc. so you get last known node.

usually shows it is a home pc not internet cafe.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

peterdragon
11-03-2005, 12:19 AM
yes figured that out on the ? and whats the email addy you want me to send to to get the scanner

peterdragon
11-03-2005, 12:19 AM
yes figured that out on the ? and whats the email addy you want me to send to to get the scanner

nick20045
11-03-2005, 12:23 AM
check e mail.

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-03-2005, 12:23 AM
check e mail.

to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

tony
11-07-2005, 06:14 PM
Dear Nick

could you send me a copy of net trace or ip scanner it sounds good.

either to

hotdowd@hotmail.co.uk
or
tony@marcol.co.uk

many thanks tony

tony

tony
11-07-2005, 06:14 PM
Dear Nick

could you send me a copy of net trace or ip scanner it sounds good.

either to

hotdowd@hotmail.co.uk
or
tony@marcol.co.uk

many thanks tony

tony

nick20045
11-07-2005, 07:51 PM
check mail.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

nick20045
11-07-2005, 07:51 PM
check mail.



to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on