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Prometheus
01-17-2007, 03:11 PM
STILL DOUBTING? HERE'S PROOF.

I decided to create a ualadys profile, just to see if they'd learned anything from reading this forum and the emails we have sent.

Meet "Frank Johnson" a/k/a Frank 'n Beans, he's a 63 year old lawyer from Chicago.

His profile, which is composed of nothing but incomplete sentences, question marks, and some of the drivel assembled from the form letters I've received from several of my own CC honeys ends this way:

"I am a guy who flushed a ****load of money down the toilet with confidentialconnections.com now ualadys.com. This is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

Frank's profile was created yesterday. This morning, Bohdana S. #6009 tells Frank "you are the man I'm dreaming of!"

From: Bohdana S. #6009
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 17 January 2007 10:29:18
Subject: You are the man I'm dreaming of!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi!!


Do you like red haired ladies?If you do may be I?ll be lucky to get your reply! I hope that it?ll turn out that we suit each other and we?ll continue our communication! As you know my name is Bohdana.But my friends and relatives call me Dana.I like the name ?Dana? more as it sounds not very officially and it?s shorter. I have the same blue eyes as my father has but I look more like my mother.If you want I can send you more pictures of myself and my family and you?ll see yourself whom I look like.

I have also a younger sister Yulia.We are good friends and we live together with our parents. My job is connected with foreign languages.I do translations and give private lessons of English. I have applied to the agency as I ?d like to meet my man here with whom I?d like to build my future family. I?m a very optimistic lady and you have an opportunity to see my pretty smile in the pictures.Hope you like my smile as well as my eyes and my hair?And the way I tell about myself. I want to tell you more about myself in my next letters!I hope to get your questions about my life and everything you are interested in. If of course you got interested in me. How long have you been on this site?Whu did you decide to look for your woman in Ukraine?

My gentle kiss

Dana

So the English translator has read a completely nonsensical profile, comlete with a request that only "scam artists" reply, and she's up for a threesome with sister Yulia. Vomit bags available in the lobby... Prometheus

Prometheus
01-17-2007, 03:14 PM
I forgot to add that Bohdana is 25 and "Frank" is 63. Hee hee. The "man I'm dreaming of." I have heard of MILF's, but GDILF's???

blondepeter
01-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Dublin

Of course I sent someone to her door. I had realized before I found this site that UA was yanking me so I tracked my own translator in Simferopol and he offered to go she if she exists. I have been to the FSU 3 times and am savy to what goes on there. So I needed proof. He found me a lady to teach English for $4 an hour, he offered to show her how to use the internet and he went to her house to see if she would communicate with me outside the agency. Of course that was a Nyet! So I told the agency that I had given her $400 and she's busy as we speak trying to convince them it's not true. Can't you just imagine one lier trying to convince another lier she's not lying?

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 04:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

STILL DOUBTING? HERE'S PROOF.

I decided to create a ualadys profile, just to see if they'd learned anything from reading this forum and the emails we have sent.

Meet "Frank Johnson" a/k/a Frank 'n Beans, he's a 63 year old lawyer from Chicago.

His profile, which is composed of nothing but incomplete sentences, question marks, and some of the drivel assembled from the form letters I've received from several of my own CC honeys ends this way:

"I am a guy who flushed a ****load of money down the toilet with confidentialconnections.com now ualadys.com. This is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

Frank's profile was created yesterday. This morning, Bohdana S. #6009 tells Frank "you are the man I'm dreaming of!"

From: Bohdana S. #6009
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 17 January 2007 10:29:18
Subject: You are the man I'm dreaming of!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi!!


Do you like red haired ladies?If you do may be I?ll be lucky to get your reply! I hope that it?ll turn out that we suit each other and we?ll continue our communication! As you know my name is Bohdana.But my friends and relatives call me Dana.I like the name ?Dana? more as it sounds not very officially and it?s shorter. I have the same blue eyes as my father has but I look more like my mother.If you want I can send you more pictures of myself and my family and you?ll see yourself whom I look like.

I have also a younger sister Yulia.We are good friends and we live together with our parents. My job is connected with foreign languages.I do translations and give private lessons of English. I have applied to the agency as I ?d like to meet my man here with whom I?d like to build my future family. I?m a very optimistic lady and you have an opportunity to see my pretty smile in the pictures.Hope you like my smile as well as my eyes and my hair?And the way I tell about myself. I want to tell you more about myself in my next letters!I hope to get your questions about my life and everything you are interested in. If of course you got interested in me. How long have you been on this site?Whu did you decide to look for your woman in Ukraine?

My gentle kiss

Dana

So the English translator has read a completely nonsensical profile, comlete with a request that only "scam artists" reply, and she's up for a threesome with sister Yulia. Vomit bags available in the lobby... Prometheus

We will have to change your nickname to Prometheus DEVIL ! :D
It is certainly proof beyond any doubt whatever. ! Keep it for the lawyers. Can you also copy your profile pages so that the profile links with that stupid letter. ? I hope you will send that letter back to 'support' as well, and ask do they need any further proof of their scamming and illegal activities. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 04:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Dublin

Of course I sent someone to her door. I had realized before I found this site that UA was yanking me so I tracked my own translator in Simferopol and he offered to go she if she exists. I have been to the FSU 3 times and am savy to what goes on there. So I needed proof. He found me a lady to teach English for $4 an hour, he offered to show her how to use the internet and he went to her house to see if she would communicate with me outside the agency. Of course that was a Nyet! So I told the agency that I had given her $400 and she's busy as we speak trying to convince them it's not true. Can't you just imagine one lier trying to convince another lier she's not lying?


Beautiful. !! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 04:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Julia are not saying that i am the only one, but i like the pictures she sends :D




Which Julia is that ? Maybe she is the same one who sent me almost nude pic's. ?? Is her number: 7016. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

tot446. Can you answer, please. ? I would love to know if she is writing to others, and sending out her 'personal & private' pics as well . ! ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Prometheus
01-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Here's Frank's profile:

Frank J. #396700
Age 63 years old
Birth Date: 1943 October 10

Height:180 cm Weight: 87 kg
Eyes: Blue Glasses (lens): Unspecified
Hair: Grey

Children: Yes, but not living at home

Country: USA City: Chicago Zip: 0
Race: Caucasian Religion: Christian

Education: Bachelor's Degree
Employment/Career: Legal

Smoke: Don't smoke Drink: Drink socially


My hobbies:
Long walks on the beach, glass of wine by the fireplace, travel, good friends, romantic evenings.

About myself:
Friends shouldn't be concerned with money. Though very often people need troubles with money and first people who could help - are friends. By the way what do you think about it? I like the words Epicurus, who said that "Of all the things which provides to make us entirely happy, much the greatest is the possession of friendship...". A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart, and can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words. A friend is someone who reaches for your hand, but touches your heart... Have you heard the saying that it is better to have "100 friends than 100 rubles". Do you believe in it? As for me - I think that we can have a great number of friends, but only few of them are true friends, best friends. Best friends are like rainbows, they are bright, beautiful, and you feel a smile when they appear...My best friend is the one who brings out the best in me. Can you say the same about your best friend? What is a good friend for you? Because for me - a good friend is the one I can count on, as well as being so much more. A friend is someone with whom we can relax and just hang out, have fun and share our innermost thoughts - deep dark secrets, lofty and noble goals, or our hopes, joys, and fears. My best friend allows me a safe space to share my deepest thoughts and needs without worry. Can you say the same about yourself? Do you have a desire sometimes to be someone else? What are you proud of the most in your life? Are you satisfied with the place where you are living now? Have you many close people that you can rely on? What is the person who is the most interesting for you in your life? I?m really very interesting in your answers, dear. ;) And I do hope that you will reply me as soon as you can. ;) When I went to bed yesterday I had really many thoughts in my mind, I thought of living in another country, about my life, about possible changes? I?ve understood that I?m tired to go with the stream of life and I feel that it is time to change something completely! But there is always some ?but?? it is frightful to make the first step in uncertainty? Well, may be I would be more secure financially if I lived in another country but I?m afraid of homesickness and to be around of people that speak another language? It is nice when a woman has her beloved man in a foreign country and she can always rely on him. But in spite of it I had some fears yesterday? It is difficult to explain everything that is in my mind. It is a mixed feeling. When you want something very strong and you are afraid of it at the same time. I hope you are not tired of my rambling. ;-( But I think it is quite natural to be afraid of changes in life. Do you agree or not? You know I?m used to live in my country in spite of many difficulties here. So as you see my thoughts are just mixed up! I think I have to prepare myself for changes and I should overcome my fear of uncertainty. I know a joke about fishing. " A man phones home from his office and says to his wife, "I have the chance to go fishing for a week. It's the opportunity of a lifetime. I have to leave right away. Pack my clothes, my fishing equipment, and especially my blue silk pajamas. I'll be home in an hour to pick them up." The man rushes home to grab everything. He hugs his wife, apologizes for the short notice, and then hurries off. A week later, the man returns and his wife asks, "Did you have a good trip, dear?" The man replies, "Yep, the fishing was great... but you forgot to pack my blue silk pajamas." His wife smiles and says, "Oh, no I didn't... I put them in your tackle box! I saw such a wonderful dream at night ? I saw beautiful mountains and blue streams running everywhere. And I stayed on the top of the mountain and had such a feeling that I could fly if I just wanted. And guess what? ;) I flied finally! Do you think I keep growing up? They say, if a person flies in the dreams ? he is growing up. ;) Do you think it is true? I wouldn?t like to be higher ? I like myself as I am now. ;) By the way, I think that to like people you should like yourself first of all. Do you agree? If a person doesn?t respect himself, how can he respect others? Do you believe in the essence of auto-suggestion? We want to be in love so much that we fall in love with the concept of love and project it onto a fantasy, usually something exotic like a foreigner. We tend to idealize them. And I thought you just idealized me! It?s easy to imagine they have all the attributes we desire because we are not physically with them. Sometimes the fantasy bubble is burst when they actually meet. Other times their fantasies meld into reality. So it is possible for fantasies to sometimes come true! ;))) The advantage of the internet communication, like we are using, is that we slowly become acquainted with each other. I think over time, it is possible to fall in love. Do you agree? Actually, the internet has made possible situations that would have never occurred otherwise. Think about us, for example. If we were to pass on the street somewhere, your country or mine, what would be the likelihood of us meeting, talking and developing a relationship? I am a guy who flushed a ****load of money down the toilet with confidentialconnections.com now ualadys.com. this is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist.
Employment:
Legal

howard darby
01-17-2007, 06:13 PM
hey guys boy some of you are slick i mean sending someone to her house that was cool and the phoney profile was sharp
oh yea by the way i dont need viagra i can keep up with most 30 year olds and at 66 i still have all my teeth hair(with just a little gray)and no wrinkles---see i have been taking vitamins for 45 years and exercising. when i went to russia 4 years ago the ladies were surprised with my age
back to the subject--i sent lena another letter asking her to explain whats happening and is she married and working for cc but havent heard from her yet.

tot446
01-17-2007, 08:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Julia are not saying that i am the only one, but i like the pictures she sends :D




Which Julia is that ? Maybe she is the same one who sent me almost nude pic's. ?? Is her number: 7016. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


No thats not her, the Julia i am talking about have number 3801. And i want to see her nude. Can i see number 7016?

Alexi
01-17-2007, 08:56 PM
Hi Dublin.

I am a new member and have spent (years?) days looking through all your threads. It is true (I forget who said it) but madness is truely doing the same action repeatedly and expecting a different result. But addiction is another madness altogether.

I too am from Ireland and have recently been there in Ukraine / Russia. I have visited the (whatevertheirnameis) offices there. I have sat and seen the consoles that the translators see and even saw some of the letters sent to a particluar lady by accident.

I want to confirm to you from my experience: I want to state clearly that this is just my experience from only one office.
1. The girls / ladies are very real.
2. The translators are genuine (that I met) I do not believe they are involved in any scamming there.
3. I met their photographer briefly. He is the one who tells the girls how to dress etc.
4. I have received duplicate emails from two different ladies on the same day. I received a genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening.
5. The office and staff there are just the "Sweatshop" i.e. all the monies and decisions are done many thousands of miles away.
6. They know of your forum, Jim's Lists and Alena's Models etc.
7. I do believe that they "Spam" all profiles in an effort to initiate contact with the ladies. I would say that this initial introduction is done by each lady who knows it may be sent out like this.
8. I do believe that it is odd that the content of the emails do not seem to match the character of the person when you meet them. This may be simply that we all try to be different people in letters. I do not know for sure.
9. I do not know (but suspect) that it is in the ladies interests to initiate as much correspondance with "us" as possible. Wheither this is for small commission from the agency, the possibility of gifts from the men etc. I do not know. The fact that many of these girls have such revealing photos would lead me to believe the former.
10. It was said by I believe to be a "plant" that if the men are allowed to correspond to as many ladies as possible why not the ladies. If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?
11. The organisation is obviously a spammer but do they scam? I personally do not think so, but I am open to suggestion. I met a lady there who I am in contact privately with. I have toyed with the idea of asking if any of you guys were also in contact with her but what is the point? Maybe, if things develop I will. I am glad to have met her and I had an amazing time there.
12. Yes - it did cost a fortune. Only spend it if you can afford to loose it. Go to enjoy an experience. The odds are that the lady you are in contact with will turn out quite different when you meet her.
13 For those of you who need to know. I have been in contact with ladies mentioned here in the past. One was quite proud to have been top of the Ladies Gallery but asked a few times if I only wrote to her.. why? If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.

I wish you luck in your efforts to warning those signing up to these sites. Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it. I believe I was very fortunate. If I had noticied what you guys have been saying for so long - I doubt I would ever have gone.

Beir Bua

Kevin
01-17-2007, 09:04 PM
Prometheus I got the same exact letter from Bohdana Suprunyuk #6009 back on March 17 2006. I can see the agency sending a letter or 2 out to guys that they think are a good match for them, but it's almost been a year since I got the same letter from her.

I use a program called webcam recorder and record the agency webcams she write from for the day she writes to me, at least I know she writes them. She wrote to my today and looked at the webcam video I recorded and then looked at the time I recieved the email, it is in my inbox 30-60min after I don't see her on the webcam.

If anyone else is writing to 4252 please let me know, or if you have gotten any letter from her since you have been at the agency. you can find my email in an earlier post.

imported_uljoh
01-17-2007, 09:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by Alexi

I want to confirm to you from my experience: I want to state clearly that this is just my experience from only one office.
1. The girls / ladies are very real.
2. The translators are genuine (that I met) I do not believe they are involved in any scamming there.
3. I met their photographer briefly. He is the one who tells the girls how to dress etc.
4. I have received duplicate emails from two different ladies on the same day. I received a genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening.
5. The office and staff there are just the "Sweatshop" i.e. all the monies and decisions are done many thousands of miles away.
6. They know of your forum, Jim's Lists and Alena's Models etc.
7. I do believe that they "Spam" all profiles in an effort to initiate contact with the ladies. I would say that this initial introduction is done by each lady who knows it may be sent out like this.
8. I do believe that it is odd that the content of the emails do not seem to match the character of the person when you meet them. This may be simply that we all try to be different people in letters. I do not know for sure.
9. I do not know (but suspect) that it is in the ladies interests to initiate as much correspondance with "us" as possible. Wheither this is for small commission from the agency, the possibility of gifts from the men etc. I do not know. The fact that many of these girls have such revealing photos would lead me to believe the former.
10. It was said by I believe to be a "plant" that if the men are allowed to correspond to as many ladies as possible why not the ladies. If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?
11. The organisation is obviously a spammer but do they scam? I personally do not think so, but I am open to suggestion. I met a lady there who I am in contact privately with. I have toyed with the idea of asking if any of you guys were also in contact with her but what is the point? Maybe, if things develop I will. I am glad to have met her and I had an amazing time there.
12. Yes - it did cost a fortune. Only spend it if you can afford to loose it. Go to enjoy an experience. The odds are that the lady you are in contact with will turn out quite different when you meet her.
13 For those of you who need to know. I have been in contact with ladies mentioned here in the past. One was quite proud to have been top of the Ladies Gallery but asked a few times if I only wrote to her.. why? If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.

I wish you luck in your efforts to warning those signing up to these sites. Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it. I believe I was very fortunate. If I had noticied what you guys have been saying for so long - I doubt I would ever have gone.


Ive been to Russia 4 times to visit a special Agency there, and . . .
I agree to you 100%

GMAN
01-18-2007, 03:52 AM
On a lighter note i see the agency is making a lot of mistakes scanning through the gallery to see where the top 100 girls are hiding i see a lot of the girls are one foot tall.Also i received a letter from a 19 year old looking for men betwen 57 and 75 i am sure a 75 year old would die if he got his hands on a 19 year old.

gtearne

Prometheus
01-18-2007, 05:29 AM
Kevin,

Consider the definition of FRAUD.

Main Entry: fraud
Pronunciation: 'frod
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Anglo-French, from Latin fraud-, fraus
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : TRICK
2 a : a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : IMPOSTOR; also : one who defrauds : CHEAT b : one that is not what it seems or is represented to be.

So is it OK that the agency sends a letter to a 63 year old member, purporting to be from a 25 year old woman they "think might be a good match"? That is blatant misrepresentation. If they think they might be a good match, then they should send an email, "we think we've found a good match for you." AND WHO THINKS A 25 YEAR OLD IS A GOOD MATCH FOR A 63 YEAR OLD MAN (other than the 63 year old obviously)??? Instead, they sent a letter purporting to be in the young woman's own hand, claiming that she is a translator with advanced English skills, EVEN THOUGH THE PROFILE MADE NO SENSE IN ANY LANGUAGE.

And how can you think it OK that the identical letter was sent to you that was sent to me? My profile asked that only "scam artists" reply. Did yours also?

Ralf S.
01-18-2007, 07:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Frank's profile was created yesterday. This morning, Bohdana S. #6009 tells Frank "you are the man I'm dreaming of!"



Is she from Lutsk? I'm not anywhere where I can go and look at her photo but the red-haired Dana from Lutsk is the office manager there ("works with languages"! Nice Touch!)

She doesn't have a sister called Yulia, though that's the name of the translator in that office.

I'd do a threesome with them.. ;)


Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

dublindevil
01-18-2007, 09:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by Alexi

Hi Dublin.

I am a new member and have spent (years?) days looking through all your threads. It is true (I forget who said it) but madness is truely doing the same action repeatedly and expecting a different result. But addiction is another madness altogether.

I too am from Ireland and have recently been there in Ukraine / Russia. I have visited the (whatevertheirnameis) offices there. I have sat and seen the consoles that the translators see and even saw some of the letters sent to a particluar lady by accident.

I want to confirm to you from my experience: I want to state clearly that this is just my experience from only one office.
1. The girls / ladies are very real.
2. The translators are genuine (that I met) I do not believe they are involved in any scamming there.
3. I met their photographer briefly. He is the one who tells the girls how to dress etc.
4. I have received duplicate emails from two different ladies on the same day. I received a genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening.
5. The office and staff there are just the "Sweatshop" i.e. all the monies and decisions are done many thousands of miles away.
6. They know of your forum, Jim's Lists and Alena's Models etc.
7. I do believe that they "Spam" all profiles in an effort to initiate contact with the ladies. I would say that this initial introduction is done by each lady who knows it may be sent out like this.
8. I do believe that it is odd that the content of the emails do not seem to match the character of the person when you meet them. This may be simply that we all try to be different people in letters. I do not know for sure.
9. I do not know (but suspect) that it is in the ladies interests to initiate as much correspondance with "us" as possible. Wheither this is for small commission from the agency, the possibility of gifts from the men etc. I do not know. The fact that many of these girls have such revealing photos would lead me to believe the former.
10. It was said by I believe to be a "plant" that if the men are allowed to correspond to as many ladies as possible why not the ladies. If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?
11. The organisation is obviously a spammer but do they scam? I personally do not think so, but I am open to suggestion. I met a lady there who I am in contact privately with. I have toyed with the idea of asking if any of you guys were also in contact with her but what is the point? Maybe, if things develop I will. I am glad to have met her and I had an amazing time there.
12. Yes - it did cost a fortune. Only spend it if you can afford to loose it. Go to enjoy an experience. The odds are that the lady you are in contact with will turn out quite different when you meet her.
13 For those of you who need to know. I have been in contact with ladies mentioned here in the past. One was quite proud to have been top of the Ladies Gallery but asked a few times if I only wrote to her.. why? If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.

I wish you luck in your efforts to warning those signing up to these sites. Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it. I believe I was very fortunate. If I had noticied what you guys have been saying for so long - I doubt I would ever have gone.

Beir Bua


<h4>
Err. Alex. If your such a 'believer' what brought you to this site. ? We are all 'non believers'. ! Can you tell us how you got here. ? By mistake maybe ? :D Anyway, I thought your post was quite remarkable.
Who are (whatevertheirnameis) ? It cannot be CC or UAL as those names are on your screen to copy, so if you went to Ukraine surely you remember who you went to see. ? You went "recently" so have you forgotten them already. ?
""letters sent to a particluar lady by accident"" Did you mean 'Men' instead of ladies. ?
""genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening."" What was the reason. ? We would all love to know. ?
No.7. Yes. Agreed, they do Spam every profile. BUT, that in your opinion makes them legitimate ??
""If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?"" I personally never write to more than two. I believe this is a realistic number and allows one to be personal in their letter writing ? A lot of the Guys here are talking about 100's of duplicate letters sent out by the girls. ! Is that fair and legitimate ?
""If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.""
You really have an awful memory. ??
"" Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it.""
I think that was the most revealing part of your whole post. !
Surely what you have said confirms that the ladies and CC/UAL are scammers and frauds. ?? Just using the men to gain some presents and attention. ! Using the site for their own ends. ! Romance is far from it. ! Remember that there are Guys here, and many more around the world who are genuinely looking for a Bride, and have spent many $thousands doing it !! Is it ethical and legal to RIP them off by doing as you have suggested. ??
They are Spammers and Scammers, and they should be stopped. It would appear also, from what you have written, that the girls are equally to blame, which we have long suspected, so they do not deserve anything other than ridicule and condemnation !!</h4>


<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

helskar
01-18-2007, 10:41 AM
I do agree one hundred per cent with you Dublindevil
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by Alexi

Hi Dublin.

I am a new member and have spent (years?) days looking through all your threads. It is true (I forget who said it) but madness is truely doing the same action repeatedly and expecting a different result. But addiction is another madness altogether.

I too am from Ireland and have recently been there in Ukraine / Russia. I have visited the (whatevertheirnameis) offices there. I have sat and seen the consoles that the translators see and even saw some of the letters sent to a particluar lady by accident.

I want to confirm to you from my experience: I want to state clearly that this is just my experience from only one office.
1. The girls / ladies are very real.
2. The translators are genuine (that I met) I do not believe they are involved in any scamming there.
3. I met their photographer briefly. He is the one who tells the girls how to dress etc.
4. I have received duplicate emails from two different ladies on the same day. I received a genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening.
5. The office and staff there are just the "Sweatshop" i.e. all the monies and decisions are done many thousands of miles away.
6. They know of your forum, Jim's Lists and Alena's Models etc.
7. I do believe that they "Spam" all profiles in an effort to initiate contact with the ladies. I would say that this initial introduction is done by each lady who knows it may be sent out like this.
8. I do believe that it is odd that the content of the emails do not seem to match the character of the person when you meet them. This may be simply that we all try to be different people in letters. I do not know for sure.
9. I do not know (but suspect) that it is in the ladies interests to initiate as much correspondance with "us" as possible. Wheither this is for small commission from the agency, the possibility of gifts from the men etc. I do not know. The fact that many of these girls have such revealing photos would lead me to believe the former.
10. It was said by I believe to be a "plant" that if the men are allowed to correspond to as many ladies as possible why not the ladies. If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?
11. The organisation is obviously a spammer but do they scam? I personally do not think so, but I am open to suggestion. I met a lady there who I am in contact privately with. I have toyed with the idea of asking if any of you guys were also in contact with her but what is the point? Maybe, if things develop I will. I am glad to have met her and I had an amazing time there.
12. Yes - it did cost a fortune. Only spend it if you can afford to loose it. Go to enjoy an experience. The odds are that the lady you are in contact with will turn out quite different when you meet her.
13 For those of you who need to know. I have been in contact with ladies mentioned here in the past. One was quite proud to have been top of the Ladies Gallery but asked a few times if I only wrote to her.. why? If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.

I wish you luck in your efforts to warning those signing up to these sites. Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it. I believe I was very fortunate. If I had noticied what you guys have been saying for so long - I doubt I would ever have gone.

Beir Bua


<h4>
Err. Alex. If your such a 'believer' what brought you to this site. ? We are all 'non believers'. ! Can you tell us how you got here. ? By mistake maybe ? :D Anyway, I thought your post was quite remarkable.
Who are (whatevertheirnameis) ? It cannot be CC or UAL as those names are on your screen to copy, so if you went to Ukraine surely you remember who you went to see. ? You went "recently" so have you forgotten them already. ?
""letters sent to a particluar lady by accident"" Did you mean 'Men' instead of ladies. ?
""genuine apology from the translator who did it and an adequate reason for it happening."" What was the reason. ? We would all love to know. ?
No.7. Yes. Agreed, they do Spam every profile. BUT, that in your opinion makes them legitimate ??
""If you are corresponding to say 8 ladies I would guess that it would be hard not to fall to temptation and "cut and paste" some passages - especially poems. Maybe he has a point?"" I personally never write to more than two. I believe this is a realistic number and allows one to be personal in their letter writing ? A lot of the Guys here are talking about 100's of duplicate letters sent out by the girls. ! Is that fair and legitimate ?
""If you want to know more two ladies of Zy.....? office(I forget the name and their site is down) in Ukraine let me know.""
You really have an awful memory. ??
"" Remember that there may be ladies who want gifts and attention using these sites for their own ends, and romance is far from it.""
I think that was the most revealing part of your whole post. !
Surely what you have said confirms that the ladies and CC/UAL are scammers and frauds. ?? Just using the men to gain some presents and attention. ! Using the site for their own ends. ! Romance is far from it. ! Remember that there are Guys here, and many more around the world who are genuinely looking for a Bride, and have spent many $thousands doing it !! Is it ethical and legal to RIP them off by doing as you have suggested. ??
They are Spammers and Scammers, and they should be stopped. It would appear also, from what you have written, that the girls are equally to blame, which we have long suspected, so they do not deserve anything other than ridicule and condemnation !!</h4>


<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

GMAN
01-18-2007, 10:42 AM
Here is the reason for the disappearance
The TOP100 is deleted from the site. It\'s a new company policy. We
don\'t find it necessary on the site.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service


gtearne

Ralf S.
01-18-2007, 11:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

Here is the reason for the disappearance
The TOP100 is deleted from the site. It\'s a new company policy. We
don\'t find it necessary on the site.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service


gtearne


I *liked* the Top-100 [:p]

Just wouldn't write to any of them .. ;)


Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

howard darby
01-18-2007, 11:42 AM
kevin----thats daria s i sent reply back to her to read my profile i am not looking for a kid to raise and she needs to do some research before blindly sending out e mails to older guys never heard back from her

Glimmertwin34
01-18-2007, 12:14 PM
I have been away for awhile on vacation. I am glad that there is so much acitivity going on here. It seems many more have joined and that is always a GOOD thing. Obviously CC or UA is monitoring this site now.

I was disappointed to read that Elena G was upset with me for sharing her letter with so many people...although most of you had probably all ready read it! :D

It seems that the staff of CC...oops...UA is reading this as they are making posts now too.

Someone had asked about letters from Elena R...this is the last one I got from her...seems she has found her match...I am crushed!!!

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Elena R. #4232
13 December 2006 08:34:15

Hello, Jim!

This letter was translated for Elena by Elena

Hello, Jim!

Thank you for your letter. I see that you are very excited about coming back to your home. I?m very glad for you! ;) I hope that your life will be great, dear Jim! And I hope that you will find your true love. But I?m afraid that it will not be me. I?ve already found my second half. We met each other three months ago. I waited for your letter for so long? and then about six months ago one guy began to write me, I replied him back and then he came to visit me and we liked each other a lot. He is going to come next spring again and then I will visit his place in summer. I?m very happy that I?ve found the man of my dream at long last! ;)) And I sincerely hope that you will find the woman of your dream as well, Jim. ;) So I wish you only good luck, my dear friend! Please have a great day dear and be happy. ;)

Best wishes,

Elena

I guess I will not be able to sleep at night. It seems that Marina B has found her other half to and that she is going to Israel to finish her conversion to be Jewish...although her other half is from some where else in the world???? HUH? Yeah, that is what I thought!

Has a place been figured out where we can send all the pictures too? I would like to be able to add them to the pool of them. How about using YAHOO photo album? An album can be started and all can share through there. Kodak also offers a photo album that you can do the same thing with.

Who ever needs letters or pictures to take to a lawyer, let me know and I will send them to you.

Jim

blondepeter
01-18-2007, 12:19 PM
Here is my latest letter from UA Ladys Hello, dear Peter.

Thank you for e-mailing us and for using our services.

The lady #7536 some time ago registered only on one site, but this site
has a lot of affilates and therefore her profile may be shown on other
sites, but they are all ONE organization that sells addresses. She
asked them to remove her profile, but they didn?t do it and the lady will
insist them to remover.

Such agencies sell address of the ladies not only to the man (men) who
corresponds with her, but they also sell her contact information to
anybody who wants to have it, even if they do not have any correspondence.
And nobody will like a complete stranger to come and knock at the door
in the middle of the night. I am sure you will not like it either.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us, we are always
ready to help you!
We appreciate your membership!
Ladys.

There sure are all about the drama! No one knocked on Irina's door in the middle of the night, it was mid afternoon. The agency claims Irina does not correspond through any other agency. I received a letter from the manager at 3G Introductions telling me that she does not know Irina but that she corresponds through her agency. Now get this, she does it with out their translator, she does it on her own. So much for paying to have her letters translated at US Ladys. Ain't life grand?

blondepeter
01-18-2007, 12:23 PM
Another in the latest of BS from UA Ladys. Hello, dear Peter.

Thank you for e-mailing us and for using our services.

Maybe the lady denies your information about English lessons from you,
because she has received none. I believe you should contact the office
where you have purchased that English lessons and ask them why they
have not notified the lady.

Maybe that organization misunderstood you, because $4.00 per one hour
of English lessons does not exist or this lessons are of the very poor
quality.

You see they are sure concerned about these $4 dollar English lessons. It's just killing them that I said Irina got $400 and she won't share it with them. You don't want the news about $4 English lessons getting out to the public. I haven't heard the last of this from them you can bet.

dublindevil
01-18-2007, 02:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

I have been away for awhile on vacation. I am glad that there is so much acitivity going on here. It seems many more have joined and that is always a GOOD thing. Obviously CC or UA is monitoring this site now.

I was disappointed to read that Elena G was upset with me for sharing her letter with so many people...although most of you had probably all ready read it! :D

It seems that the staff of CC...oops...UA is reading this as they are making posts now too.

Someone had asked about letters from Elena R...this is the last one I got from her...seems she has found her match...I am crushed!!!

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Elena R. #4232
13 December 2006 08:34:15

Hello, Jim!

This letter was translated for Elena by Elena

Hello, Jim!

Thank you for your letter. I see that you are very excited about coming back to your home. I?m very glad for you! ;) I hope that your life will be great, dear Jim! And I hope that you will find your true love. But I?m afraid that it will not be me. I?ve already found my second half. We met each other three months ago. I waited for your letter for so long? and then about six months ago one guy began to write me, I replied him back and then he came to visit me and we liked each other a lot. He is going to come next spring again and then I will visit his place in summer. I?m very happy that I?ve found the man of my dream at long last! ;)) And I sincerely hope that you will find the woman of your dream as well, Jim. ;) So I wish you only good luck, my dear friend! Please have a great day dear and be happy. ;)

Best wishes,

Elena

I guess I will not be able to sleep at night. It seems that Marina B has found her other half to and that she is going to Israel to finish her conversion to be Jewish...although her other half is from some where else in the world???? HUH? Yeah, that is what I thought!

Has a place been figured out where we can send all the pictures too? I would like to be able to add them to the pool of them. How about using YAHOO photo album? An album can be started and all can share through there. Kodak also offers a photo album that you can do the same thing with.

Who ever needs letters or pictures to take to a lawyer, let me know and I will send them to you.

Jim

Exact same letter as I got from her, about 6 months ago. !! Maybe I was the one she thought was her 'dream' man. ! :D
I wonder how many others got more or less the same letter. ?
Incidently, about the storing of Pics and letters. I did offer on a previous page to set something up on one of my domains but nobody answered so I presumed that it was not a favourable option. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-18-2007, 02:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Ralf S.


quote:Originally posted by GMAN

Here is the reason for the disappearance
The TOP100 is deleted from the site. It\'s a new company policy. We
don\'t find it necessary on the site.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service


gtearne


I *liked* the Top-100 [:p]

Just wouldn't write to any of them .. ;)


Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun


Wonder why they did that ? (Removed the 100) Anyone any ideas. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-18-2007, 02:35 PM
Dear RAY

Sorry for the delay with my answer.

I know you are actively working on killing our image and business, including the stop-scammers.com forum. And probably this message of mine will also appear there. Well, it\'s good, let everybody see it.

Well, you want to close us up. I don\'t think that hudreds of happy clients will agree with that.

Unfortunately we are watching now one of sad rules in business: \"A happy client won\'t tell anybody that he got a good service, but unhappy client will tell everybody that he is not satisfied.\" We regret but this works now.

Those forums and sites are the assemblys of unhappy clients. There are hundreds of posts there. And dozens of people are there. But we have much more happy clients, much more!

I am very sorry that you got into the gathering of unhappy people, Ray. I am very sorry that unhappy clients exist in general. But this is inevitable in romantic business, where nobody can guarrantee successful relationships. We only promise that we will do our best to decrease the quantity of unhappy clients.

Best regards and best wishes to you,

Sergey Shkolnik

Support Center

UaLadys.com

<h4> I did not want to disapponit him, so here it is. !
I wonder what he intends to do to "decrease all the unhappy clients". ?? :D </h4>

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Here is a note for Sergey. !
Dear Sergey. Will you PLEASE answer the questions in my letter. ! By refusing to answer ANY of the accusations you only cause more men to criticise you and find fault with your operation. ! Surely you WANT to improve relationships and your service. ? In that case PLEASE post on here and ANSWER everything. You will received lots of credit for doing it, and paint a better picture of your operation. !!
Of course if you want to remain with your present PR, and be seen to be a fraudulent organisation, then don't reply. Just keep quiet, once again. !

Prometheus
01-18-2007, 04:48 PM
Elena R. #4232 "found her better half" more than a month ago, but her profile is still up on ualadys.com. I am sure "she" is writing many men, even as "she" plans her wedding. This is the kind of crap that really pisses me off about this bunch.

quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

Someone had asked about letters from Elena R...this is the last one I got from her...seems she has found her match...I am crushed!!!

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Elena R. #4232
13 December 2006 08:34:15

Hello, Jim!

This letter was translated for Elena by Elena

Hello, Jim!

Thank you for your letter. I see that you are very excited about coming back to your home. I?m very glad for you! ;) I hope that your life will be great, dear Jim! And I hope that you will find your true love. But I?m afraid that it will not be me. I?ve already found my second half. We met each other three months ago. Best wishes,

Elena

Glimmertwin34
01-18-2007, 05:47 PM
That is GREAT point! Why is her profile up causing men to spend money to send letters to her? You would think they would take her profile off or at least give you your credit back!

The other "lady" Marina B even sent a picture saying "something to remember me by" when she said she was converting to the Jewish faith and had met her other half.

Screw all those people! They are just SCAMMING folks! All those women who have kids cannot leave the country without their kids daddys consent...of course they do not tell you that. Now, for you to get the Daddy's consent...how much do you think that is going to cost you? What a waste of time!!!

Jim

Prometheus
01-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Good point. Russian and Ukrainian law require that the father's consent be in writing and that the consent be an unconditional agreement to permit the child to live permanently in the foreign country. The agreement must be witnessed and notarized. The father's written consent is also needed should your new wife wish to travel back to her home country after she establishes permanent residency in the United States. Both Russian and Ukrainian law require that, if citizens of their country establish permanent residency abroad, they must exchange their passport for a new one showing their status as a permanent resident of a foreign country. If your wife attempts to return to her home country without the new passport, she will encounter difficulties exiting the country, and can even be denied exit completely. As part of the process for obtaining the new passport, your wife must present written consent from her ex-husband showing that he agrees to her child living permanently in the United States.

dublindevil
01-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I have just sent this to 'Sergey' !!
Sergey.
Here is another site I would like you to visit. PLEASE. !
http://www.siteadvisor.com/
Just type in Confidentialconnections, or fianceeconnections and then please note what happens. ! Look at it all and note all the sites that link to CC and FC. ! Then click on 'any' of the 'sub domain links' and see where you end up. ! !! Do you now see why we men are so upset. ! Many of those sites are pure filth and pornographic and sex sites. AND they all lead on from CC and FC. ! Other links from your sites lead to pure scamming and fraudelent sites. ! Agreed. ?
Are you also going to dispute this, and say that these are just 'opposition' sites as well. ?? !!
Please reply and tell me you have seen them and answer my questions.. Thanks.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

blondepeter
01-18-2007, 08:47 PM
So why are there so many girls with Russian/Ukrainian names in South America? Are they really there or is that a total scam? If they are there what's the draw for them? Seems kind of like exchanging one type of poverty for another.

Glimmertwin34
01-18-2007, 08:59 PM
All Right Guys!

Here is a link to all the photos that I have received from the "Ladies of CC" ;)...do enjoy and if anyone recognizes any of the photos...please do share...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

Have a GREAT ONE!:D
GlimmerTwin

imported_uljoh
01-18-2007, 09:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

All Right Guys!

Here is a link to all the photos that I have received from the "Ladies of CC" ;)...do enjoy and if anyone recognizes any of the photos...please do share...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

Have a GREAT ONE!:D
GlimmerTwin


Hi,
There aint any so far : (

tot446
01-18-2007, 09:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

All Right Guys!

Here is a link to all the photos that I have received from the "Ladies of CC" ;)...do enjoy and if anyone recognizes any of the photos...please do share...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

Have a GREAT ONE!:D
GlimmerTwin


Is it just me? I don't get any pictures.

tot446
01-18-2007, 09:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

I have been away for awhile on vacation. I am glad that there is so much acitivity going on here. It seems many more have joined and that is always a GOOD thing. Obviously CC or UA is monitoring this site now.

I was disappointed to read that Elena G was upset with me for sharing her letter with so many people...although most of you had probably all ready read it! :D

It seems that the staff of CC...oops...UA is reading this as they are making posts now too.

Someone had asked about letters from Elena R...this is the last one I got from her...seems she has found her match...I am crushed!!!

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Elena R. #4232
13 December 2006 08:34:15

Hello, Jim!

This letter was translated for Elena by Elena

Hello, Jim!

Thank you for your letter. I see that you are very excited about coming back to your home. I?m very glad for you! ;) I hope that your life will be great, dear Jim! And I hope that you will find your true love. But I?m afraid that it will not be me. I?ve already found my second half. We met each other three months ago. I waited for your letter for so long? and then about six months ago one guy began to write me, I replied him back and then he came to visit me and we liked each other a lot. He is going to come next spring again and then I will visit his place in summer. I?m very happy that I?ve found the man of my dream at long last! ;)) And I sincerely hope that you will find the woman of your dream as well, Jim. ;) So I wish you only good luck, my dear friend! Please have a great day dear and be happy. ;)

Best wishes,

Elena

I guess I will not be able to sleep at night. It seems that Marina B has found her other half to and that she is going to Israel to finish her conversion to be Jewish...although her other half is from some where else in the world???? HUH? Yeah, that is what I thought!

Has a place been figured out where we can send all the pictures too? I would like to be able to add them to the pool of them. How about using YAHOO photo album? An album can be started and all can share through there. Kodak also offers a photo album that you can do the same thing with.

Who ever needs letters or pictures to take to a lawyer, let me know and I will send them to you.

Jim


I have been writing with Elena R since end of october and this morning i came up with this idea: I said that i would send her a picture that aren't uploaded to ua and i wanted her to send a picture of her with this picture. And to day i got the message that a friend have told her that some men keeps woman as maids and don't let them out. Her friend have experienced it her self, she had managed to put money aside and run off. so she needed a break to think about everything over.

Jo Blo
01-18-2007, 09:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by dublindevil

I have just sent this to 'Sergey' !!
Sergey.
Here is another site I would like you to visit. PLEASE. !
http://www.siteadvisor.com/
Just type in Confidentialconnections, or fianceeconnections and then please note what happens. ! Look at it all and note all the sites that link to CC and FC. ! Then click on 'any' of the 'sub domain links' and see where you end up. ! !! Do you now see why we men are so upset. ! Many of those sites are pure filth and pornographic and sex sites. AND they all lead on from CC and FC. ! Other links from your sites lead to pure scamming and fraudelent sites. ! Agreed. ?
Are you also going to dispute this, and say that these are just 'opposition' sites as well. ?? !!
Please reply and tell me you have seen them and answer my questions.. Thanks.

[purple]<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>Hello Dublin, how are you buddy ?? I have noticed something very interesting about CC/UAL if you read an email from CC you will see at the bottom of the page it says 'Copyright 2000-2006 Confidential Connections.com' , the copyright symbol is a 'c' inside a circle, now go to a recent letter from UAL where it says 'Copyright 2000-2007 UA ladies.com' this means that 2 different companies or entities held the same copyright on the same thing at the same time from 2000-2006 !! Think about it !!, I am not a lawyer, however i did study commercial law at university for 2 years as part of one of my uni degrees, and this defeats the very purpose of legal intangibles such as copyright, trademarks and patents, and to the best of my knowledge it is not possible, it really makes me think that UAL is just another name for CC, you say your cousin is a lawyer, please show this to him, if i am wrong , i invite him to correct me , also Dublin click on my yahoo logo and send me your email address, it will be kept strictly confidential, until next time take care ... Jo Blo

tot446
01-18-2007, 09:48 PM
To the guys who have been in contact with Elena R: have you only been writing to her or have somebody acctually meet her?

tot

dadepfan
01-19-2007, 04:15 AM
Has anyone had any experience with a site called AsianKisses? It seems to have real women, and you only pay once to contact a woman, and you get all her contact info, including personal emails and phone numbers.

They also have a long list of "free" contacts. These are women who have not had many men try to contact them. Joining is free, but each contact information you purchase costs about $15.

So far, I've not had any real conversations get started, but I've only been using the free contacts so far.

Dave

David A Desautel

howard darby
01-19-2007, 08:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

All Right Guys!

Here is a link to all the photos that I have received from the "Ladies of CC" ;)...do enjoy and if anyone recognizes any of the photos...please do share...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

Have a GREAT ONE!:D
GlimmerTwin


hey glimmer---site has 0 photos 1 page

dublindevil
01-19-2007, 09:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

All Right Guys!

Here is a link to all the photos that I have received from the "Ladies of CC" ;)...do enjoy and if anyone recognizes any of the photos...please do share...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/?change_count=0#page1

Have a GREAT ONE!:D
GlimmerTwin

I would love to have a look but when I went there Yahoo refused and said I have to sign up. ! I hate Yahoo. ! They are the biggest spammers in the world. ! I get more spam from 'geocities' than all the rest put together, and Yahoo owns Geocities. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-19-2007, 09:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jo Blo

[quote]Originally posted by dublindevil

I have just sent this to 'Sergey' !!
Sergey.
Here is another site I would like you to visit. PLEASE. !
http://www.siteadvisor.com/
Just type in Confidentialconnections, or fianceeconnections and then please note what happens. ! Look at it all and note all the sites that link to CC and FC. ! Then click on 'any' of the 'sub domain links' and see where you end up. ! !! Do you now see why we men are so upset. ! Many of those sites are pure filth and pornographic and sex sites. AND they all lead on from CC and FC. ! Other links from your sites lead to pure scamming and fraudelent sites. ! Agreed. ?
Are you also going to dispute this, and say that these are just 'opposition' sites as well. ?? !!
Please reply and tell me you have seen them and answer my questions.. Thanks.

[purple]<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>Hello Dublin, how are you buddy ?? I have noticed something very interesting about CC/UAL if you read an email from CC you will see at the bottom of the page it says 'Copyright 2000-2006 Confidential Connections.com' , the copyright symbol is a 'c' inside a circle, now go to a recent letter from UAL where it says 'Copyright 2000-2007 UA ladies.com' this means that 2 different companies or entities held the same copyright on the same thing at the same time from 2000-2006 !! Think about it !!, I am not a lawyer, however i did study commercial law at university for 2 years as part of one of my uni degrees, and this defeats the very purpose of legal intangibles such as copyright, trademarks and patents, and to the best of my knowledge it is not possible, it really makes me think that UAL is just another name for CC, you say your cousin is a lawyer, please show this to him, if i am wrong , i invite him to correct me , also Dublin click on my yahoo logo and send me your email address, it will be kept strictly confidential, until next time take care ... Jo Blo

Hello Jo Blo.
Unfortunately I don't have a Yahoo ID and I refuse to sign up with them (see my post below about them)
I posted a contact email on here before. It is: scaminfo@eircom.net
Unfortunately you got me mixed up with the Guy in UK. He has the cousin who is a lawyer, not me. :D You can find his name in an earlier post. My Lawyer is in the USA and I have written to him and explained everything and given him all the links to URL's. I am waiting for his reply and will post it on here when it arrives.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Prometheus
01-19-2007, 10:35 AM
I have a Yahoo ID, and there are no photos at that link.

Glimmertwin34
01-19-2007, 10:55 AM
HI!

There are 115 photos there. I have copied and pasted the link on my own computer and it takes me there. If not look in Yahoo for a photo album from the screen name of ScambusterCC.

I do not like yahoo either, so I made up a screen name only to put pictures up.

You seem to complain that they are not there...like someone is BS'ing you again. I don't know how else to get you there unless you all send me emails and I send you an invitation to them.

I don't know. I was just trying to come up with a way so that we can share photos.

Jim

tot446
01-19-2007, 12:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HI!

There are 115 photos there. I have copied and pasted the link on my own computer and it takes me there. If not look in Yahoo for a photo album from the screen name of ScambusterCC.

I do not like yahoo either, so I made up a screen name only to put pictures up.

You seem to complain that they are not there...like someone is BS'ing you again. I don't know how else to get you there unless you all send me emails and I send you an invitation to them.

I don't know. I was just trying to come up with a way so that we can share photos.

Jim


I have joined yahoo and can't get to your pictures. Yahoo says that you don't have shared pictures.

howard darby
01-19-2007, 12:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HI!

There are 115 photos there. I have copied and pasted the link on my own computer and it takes me there. If not look in Yahoo for a photo album from the screen name of ScambusterCC.

I do not like yahoo either, so I made up a screen name only to put pictures up.

You seem to complain that they are not there...like someone is BS'ing you again. I don't know how else to get you there unless you all send me emails and I send you an invitation to them.

I don't know. I was just trying to come up with a way so that we can share photos.

Jim


JIM--I THINK THERE IS A CLITCH IN THE SYSTEM I AM COMPUTER STUPID BUT IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO BE INVITED TO THE ALBUM

howard darby
01-19-2007, 12:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby


quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HI!

There are 115 photos there. I have copied and pasted the link on my own computer and it takes me there. If not look in Yahoo for a photo album from the screen name of ScambusterCC.

I do not like yahoo either, so I made up a screen name only to put pictures up.

You seem to complain that they are not there...like someone is BS'ing you again. I don't know how else to get you there unless you all send me emails and I send you an invitation to them.

I don't know. I was just trying to come up with a way so that we can share photos.

Jim


JIM--I THINK THERE IS A CLITCH IN THE SYSTEM I AM COMPUTER STUPID BUT IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO BE INVITED TO THE ALBUM

NOW AN ALBUM COMES UP BUT WITH A LITTLE RED X IN TOP LEFT CORNER

Glimmertwin34
01-19-2007, 01:06 PM
HEY!

OK, I think I made a mistake...I think that I had it private...I have changed it to public now.

Try going to this link..which is the same...and see if it will let you in..I hope so...let me know if it works please...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/album/576460762385794541#page1

Jim

helskar
01-19-2007, 02:10 PM
PLEASE NOTE "SVETLANA" ON PAGE 2 IS A WELL KNOWN & RECORDED SCAMMER...
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HEY!

OK, I think I made a mistake...I think that I had it private...I have changed it to public now.

Try going to this link..which is the same...and see if it will let you in..I hope so...let me know if it works please...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/album/576460762385794541#page1

Jim

dublindevil
01-19-2007, 03:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HEY!

OK, I think I made a mistake...I think that I had it private...I have changed it to public now.

Try going to this link..which is the same...and see if it will let you in..I hope so...let me know if it works please...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/album/576460762385794541#page1

Jim


It works fine. ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Glimmertwin34
01-19-2007, 03:59 PM
I am glad it is working....this is what we need...pic's of these "Ladies" so we can ID who the scammers are.

jim

Prometheus
01-19-2007, 04:05 PM
63 year old "Frank n Beans" is on a roll! 24 year old Yuliya has "read" his profile (the one that says "scam artists only need reply"), and she thinks she has a lot in common with a man three times her age!!!


From: Yuliya K. #4926
To: Frank
Date: 19 January 2007 08:22:08
Subject: Maybe you are my dream?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Frank,


My name is Yuliya!


As soon as I read your profile I decided to write to you. Maybe we have a lot of common; maybe we could be a perfect couple. For now I would like to correspond with you. And then we will see where our fates will bring us.


I live in a little town Sumy. Though it is not big, it has its advantages. There is a river here, where I like to spend my spare time in summer.


I live with my parents, who I love very much. They are my closest people. My parents and I have wonderfully good relations. I work as a seller in a department store. This work is very interesting for me.


I don't have much spare time, but when I'm free I like to gather with my friends on nature to have some picnic. I love to seat at a fire under the starry sky and just chatter to have a rest from the city fuss. I like to attend movie, theatres, museums and different exhibitions. One more my infatuation is travelling. I like beautiful and interesting places and things.


My intentions are very serious. My goal is to make a very happy and united family. I am loving and attentive girl. I'm affectionate and charming, I hate treachery and lie. Unfortunately I haven't met my second part here in Ukraine but I hope that I'll find my love very soon. I would like to meet a man who will look after me , give me his cuddle and tenderness. From my side I'll surround him with all my love!!!

Please, tell me about your goals. What do you like?


What is your hobby?

How do you like to spend your free time?

What is the most important for you in the relations?


I hope you will write me soon


With best wishes!

Yuliya

dublindevil
01-19-2007, 06:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

63 year old "Frank n Beans" is on a roll! 24 year old Yuliya has "read" his profile (the one that says "scam artists only need reply"), and she thinks she has a lot in common with a man three times her age!!!


From: Yuliya K. #4926
To: Frank
Date: 19 January 2007 08:22:08
Subject: Maybe you are my dream?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Frank,


My name is Yuliya!


As soon as I read your profile I decided to write to you. Maybe we have a lot of common; maybe we could be a perfect couple. For now I would like to correspond with you. And then we will see where our fates will bring us.


I live in a little town Sumy. Though it is not big, it has its advantages. There is a river here, where I like to spend my spare time in summer.


I live with my parents, who I love very much. They are my closest people. My parents and I have wonderfully good relations. I work as a seller in a department store. This work is very interesting for me.


I don't have much spare time, but when I'm free I like to gather with my friends on nature to have some picnic. I love to seat at a fire under the starry sky and just chatter to have a rest from the city fuss. I like to attend movie, theatres, museums and different exhibitions. One more my infatuation is travelling. I like beautiful and interesting places and things.


My intentions are very serious. My goal is to make a very happy and united family. I am loving and attentive girl. I'm affectionate and charming, I hate treachery and lie. Unfortunately I haven't met my second part here in Ukraine but I hope that I'll find my love very soon. I would like to meet a man who will look after me , give me his cuddle and tenderness. From my side I'll surround him with all my love!!!

Please, tell me about your goals. What do you like?


What is your hobby?

How do you like to spend your free time?

What is the most important for you in the relations?


I hope you will write me soon


With best wishes!

Yuliya



hahaha. I should not be laughing but it is so pathetic it makes one laugh. ! That is the same kind of letter I had, by the dozen. ! Wouldn't you think those 'translators' would use some kind of ingenuity when writing letters to strangers, especially 60+ old guys. ! :D
A note for SERGEY. !
Hey Sergey my Friend, please read this post and the letter, and THEN tell me your site is NOT scamming us men. ?? Do you really want my friend Prometheus to fall for that 'bull'. ? Shame on you Sergey. !!

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

siberianhusky
01-19-2007, 10:29 PM
16 January 2007

The following is a copy of a letter from Elena G. #1586 to another client affiliated with UAladys.com/Confidential Connections, please read....

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear Howard!

First of all I want to say that I?ve received your letter and never a one line was deleted by translators from the Agency. Ad notam I study English and even now my knowledge is enough to translate the letter written by you on my own. Yes, it?s hard for me to write myself, that?s why I am writing this letter in Russian now and then I will give it to the translators from the Agency and will ask to translate each word of mine. If you are worried that they will chat me someway, I will ask them to print it out after translation and I will check if it was really translated properly.

Dear Howard, we have been corresponding since the beginning of November 2005, and it?s year 2007 now already, we have shared a lot of letters, despite this you haven?t found any free time to come and see me, and now you write to me and say that I correspond with other men and write them generic letters. I have put you and the men you have met on that forum into the list of people, who just entertain this way and just play with the girls who are really interested in creating the family and who are looking for happiness and their second half in this huge world. Same as me, you also correspond with somebody else, I also felt myself special and only for some time, but then I realized that this is all the game from your side and I am very disappointed.

Howard, I am not a teenage stupid girl, and I spend a lot of time near at computer on work, so after you had written to me, I have searched in Internet and found the forum you?ve written about. You know, I was just shocked by how you, men, discuss the ladies and send each other their private letters and pictures. Probably you have another culture in your country, but here such behavior of men is considered to be disgusting and unworthy.

I?ve read how some Jim from Iraq discusses me, you have mentioned him in letter. I consider he has no right at all to do that as he has corresponded with some other girls from the Agency and sent the same letters to us all. He did to the ladies the same and what was he waiting for???

I?ve read everything what Anthony Swedberg wrote about me, his nick is siberianhusky. By the way you can pass to him that I?ve written to him about the gift he has ordered, I have thanked him. But on the forum he wrote that I didn?t even mention that gift!

Dear Howard, concerning my surgery, you mistake here again. Firstly, it was in March, and it was a great shock for me, I recovered for a long time afterwards, and I thought you treated that with understanding and you felt for me, but it appears that you even don?t believe that I really wrote the truth.

Also I want to disappoint you and all men on forum who think that I earn for living by corresponding with men. By the agency rules I can?t ask for money from men, I can?t exchange contact information before our first meeting, so I have no possibility to get money from men.

Dear Howard. I have grown up and I was behaved by my parents as a worthy lady and I am really sure that I will meet a man who will make me happy and with whom we will be happy to gether.

By the way, that letter you?ve been discussing on forum, that?s the letter I send to men whom I saw in the gallery and whom I want to learn better.

Howard, I have read your last comment stating that you?ve written me a letter and never got a reply, so here is my reply to you and my answer to all your accusations.

I hope you won?t be sorry that you believed those men and lost my friendship.

Good luck to you!

Lena

I want to know why you disclosed my personal information to another client without my permission and a violation of my privacy according to the terms of condition within your site?

Here is their answer......

19 January 2007
Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator

Hello, dear Anthony.

Thank you for e-mailing us and thank you for using our services.

We do not sell, pass or send any contact information of our clients, neither ladies nor men. I guarantee you, that information about your last name was not passed to the lady by our company.

I guess the lady #1586 has found this information by herself.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us, we are always ready to help you!

We appreciate your membership!

Sincerely, UA Ladies Support Team

What do the people in this forum think? Is this answer liable enough? In my opinion it isn't as there is no way other than from UAL/CC themselves being involved, how this lady came about finding my personal information and I see this as being a very good piece of evidence against UAL/CC for breaking the Privacy Policy. I want you to think about this and tell me how a woman I never knew in my life, who doesn't speak English, is from another country and found my personal information outside of the UAL/CC offices as they claim she did. I would like the people of the forum for your thoughts.

Thank you

Siberian

wxman2001
01-20-2007, 01:48 AM
Very true about Ukrainian law. I do not know about Russian law, as my fiance is Ukrainian. Her ex must sign the waiver, and it must be wintessed and notarized. One exception is when child turns 16, then the child does not need permission to leave country with other parent. That is official policy of Ukraine, which by law our Embassy in Kiev follows to the letter. Of course if father is dead, then only proof of his death is needed. (death certificate) Another exception is if father has abandoned child (no support) and mother ask for sole custody. That is much harder to prove in Ukrainan courts and could take over a year. She must get several witnesses, such a teachers, his family members, etc, to state that he has nothing to do with child. The kicker with that is that he will need to come to court, and if he has not paid child support for years, he can be arrested on the spot. Even so, if he chooses to fight it, the courts will most likely rule in his favor. (Better to have a deadbeat father, than allow a child to leave their country). We have talked to several lawyers over there, and the honest ones flat out tell us it is a waste of money to seek sole custody.


quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Good point. Russian and Ukrainian law require that the father's consent be in writing and that the consent be an unconditional agreement to permit the child to live permanently in the foreign country. The agreement must be witnessed and notarized. The father's written consent is also needed should your new wife wish to travel back to her home country after she establishes permanent residency in the United States. Both Russian and Ukrainian law require that, if citizens of their country establish permanent residency abroad, they must exchange their passport for a new one showing their status as a permanent resident of a foreign country. If your wife attempts to return to her home country without the new passport, she will encounter difficulties exiting the country, and can even be denied exit completely. As part of the process for obtaining the new passport, your wife must present written consent from her ex-husband showing that he agrees to her child living permanently in the United States.

Prometheus
01-20-2007, 03:57 AM
Hey Dublin,

I just LOVE that ualadys.com has now put UALADYS.COM (EX CONFIDENTIAL CONNECTIONS) as their home page header!!! HA HA HA that will inexorably link this site with their own. God, what a buch of f**king idiots. I think the folks in New York must be asleep on the switch. This is beyond rank amateurism.

We really need a twelve step program for CC addiction. The last month I have slept better, accomplished more at work, and generally been more attune to the present moment. But I must say that giving up the fantasy of a terribly hot Ukrainian woman has not been entirely easy, and I do feel a certain sense of resignation. Ce la vie.

howard darby
01-20-2007, 08:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

I am glad it is working....this is what we need...pic's of these "Ladies" so we can ID who the scammers are.

jim

GREAT JOB--I HAD EVERY ONE OF THOSE PHOTOS TOO--THAT LAST ONE I THINK HER NAME IS LENA--THE ONE WITH THE YELLOW BEAR IN HER CROTCH( THE ONE I BOUGHT FOR HER) I EVEN TALKED WITH HER ON PHONE ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO SHE SPEAKS PERFECT ENGLISH HER FATHER IS MILITARY

dublindevil
01-20-2007, 11:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Hey Dublin,

I just LOVE that ualadys.com has now put UALADYS.COM (EX CONFIDENTIAL CONNECTIONS) as their home page header!!! HA HA HA that will inexorably link this site with their own. God, what a buch of f**king idiots. I think the folks in New York must be asleep on the switch. This is beyond rank amateurism.

We really need a twelve step program for CC addiction. The last month I have slept better, accomplished more at work, and generally been more attune to the present moment. But I must say that giving up the fantasy of a terribly hot Ukrainian woman has not been entirely easy, and I do feel a certain sense of resignation. Ce la vie.

Yes, they really are crap. ! Every time I go there now I see crap pages loading with boxes all over the place overlapping other boxes. ! What reputable organisation would allow that ?? I can't ever remember seeing such a bad site, in all my years on the internet. !

Regarding the 'addiction', Its difficult isn't it. ! Trying to overcomne those mental pictures of all that beauty is very hard. Maybe some drug company should produce a 'strip' something like the nicotine strip. ? Only the new one wouldn't go on the arm, it would have to go on the (??) any suggestions. ? [:p]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-20-2007, 11:26 AM
I wrote another lot of fierce questions for 'Sergey' on the support page. He answered, but did not actually answer the questions - As usual. ! So I wrote back asking him to reply properly. I will post them all here when I get the final answers, although don't hold your breath that he will answer constructively or honestly. !!

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-20-2007, 11:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HEY!

OK, I think I made a mistake...I think that I had it private...I have changed it to public now.

Try going to this link..which is the same...and see if it will let you in..I hope so...let me know if it works please...

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/scambustercc/album/576460762385794541#page1

Jim


It works fine. ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


How can I add mine so that they will show seperately from yours ? I do not want to sign up with Yahoo. I hate them. !
Instructions please. ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Glimmertwin34
01-20-2007, 11:45 AM
Howard,

You mean the pictures that I paid for that were "made just for me" were sent to you too? I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK!!! She said they were just for me!!! She said her English was not good that is why she had to use the agency! This was the woman of my dreams and now I fing out it is all based on lies...lies...lies...I am going to cry! Teehehehe

Not at all....it is funny how many of those pictures that are "just for you" turn up in their public albums a bit later. Anywho...I do not know what kind of BS the agency tells the girls, but I do not think that a lot of the girls know how to work the system and are doing so.

I have had a couple of them who have said "you are the man of my dreams" and then suddenly when I was going to go over there...they no longer what to be a part of the site...those pictures of Tamara were sent to me and then she "quit" the agency.

Since CC has so many people that are satisfied, maybe Sergey can contact some of these folks and we can hear some of the good stories...what do you think? Are there any out there? You would think someone (withouth a Ukranian IP address) would be able to talk about how happy they are.

Anywho...everyone look at that pics....I am going to go back through them and put their Lady ID and name on them too.

Jim

howard darby
01-20-2007, 12:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

Howard,

You mean the pictures that I paid for that were "made just for me" were sent to you too? I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK!!! She said they were just for me!!! She said her English was not good that is why she had to use the agency! This was the woman of my dreams and now I fing out it is all based on lies...lies...lies...I am going to cry! Teehehehe

Not at all....it is funny how many of those pictures that are "just for you" turn up in their public albums a bit later. Anywho...I do not know what kind of BS the agency tells the girls, but I do not think that a lot of the girls know how to work the system and are doing so.

I have had a couple of them who have said "you are the man of my dreams" and then suddenly when I was going to go over there...they no longer what to be a part of the site...those pictures of Tamara were sent to me and then she "quit" the agency.

Since CC has so many people that are satisfied, maybe Sergey can contact some of these folks and we can hear some of the good stories...what do you think? Are there any out there? You would think someone (withouth a Ukranian IP address) would be able to talk about how happy they are.

Anywho...everyone look at that pics....I am going to go back through them and put their Lady ID and name on them too.

Jim


JIM--I JUST REMEMBERED HER NAME IT WAS IRINA WHEN I TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE SHE WAS GOING TO MEET ME IN TURKEY THEN WHEN I SET UP THE ARRAINGEMENTS AND SENT HER A LETTER SHE DISAPPEARED.
LENA STILL HASNT ANSWERED MY NASTY RETURN LETTER NOR HAS CC/UA

Prometheus
01-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Dublin,

Just go to photoalbums.com and make a free one. You can even chose your URL name. Mine is http://prometheus.photoalbums.com You have to download a loading tool, so use a throwaway email address.

Prometheus
01-20-2007, 03:15 PM
Dublin,

My bad. It is http://myphotoalbum.com/ My CC album is at http://prometheus.myphotoalbum.com/

GMAN
01-20-2007, 06:10 PM
I think they took away the top 100 girls because they got a bad name for writing to dozens of men now if somebody new joins they will think the girl is only interested in them.I received the same letter a girl wrote about 6 months ago yesterday i was not interested then what makes her think i will be interested now.Also looks like they get mixed up they refer to things i know nothing about in the letters and if you ask them was the message not for somebody else they make excuses.

gtearne

Prometheus
01-22-2007, 07:13 PM
confidential connections is now http://www.ualadys.com

bride connections is now http://www.brladys.com

wife connections is now http://www.ruladys.com

finance connections is now http://www.arladys.com

www.lovemelongtime.com is dead, just like CC/UAL's credibility.

don't waste another dime.

dublindevil
01-22-2007, 07:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

confidential connections is now http://www.ualadys.com

bride connections is now http://www.brladys.com

wife connections is now http://www.ruladys.com

finance connections is now http://www.arladys.com

www.lovemelongtime.com is dead, just like CC/UAL's credibility.

don't waste another dime.


<h4>

Where has everybody gone. ??
Not a single posting in 2 days. ??[:0] </h4>

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

tot446
01-22-2007, 07:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

confidential connections is now http://www.ualadys.com

bride connections is now http://www.brladys.com

wife connections is now http://www.ruladys.com

finance connections is now http://www.arladys.com

www.lovemelongtime.com is dead, just like CC/UAL's credibility.

don't waste another dime.


<h4>

Where has everybody gone. ??
Not a single posting in 2 days. ??[:0] </h4>

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


I don't know maybe back at ualadys?? [?]

Prometheus
01-22-2007, 07:28 PM
There's a Russian Chaika GAZ-13 limousine parked at the end of my street. Think the mafioski are shutting this board down? ;)

From Russia without Love
01-22-2007, 08:22 PM
Since this conversation has alerted me to Scammers- I have been doing some research. On this site: Stop-Scammers .com if you browse All Scammers, look on page 46, my question to contributers here is: Tola Carey Spencer looks like Daria P, #4016, is Tola and Daria the same lady?

BSS

dublindevil
01-22-2007, 08:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

There's a Russian Chaika GAZ-13 limousine parked at the end of my street. Think the mafioski are shutting this board down? ;)


Hahaha. !!

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

howard darby
01-22-2007, 09:10 PM
well i finally heard from lena she is mad because i copied her letter to me to siberian and mad at me for not trusting her, she hates all the guys on this form and she told me to never write her again to save my money because she will not answer me again. she said she is serious about finding her second half and we have all lost out. now how did she find out about the forum. she also said she doesnt get any money from cc/ua or anyone else.

dublindevil
01-22-2007, 09:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby

well i finally heard from lena she is mad because i copied her letter to me to siberian and mad at me for not trusting her, she hates all the guys on this form and she told me to never write her again to save my money because she will not answer me again. she said she is serious about finding her second half and we have all lost out. now how did she find out about the forum. she also said she doesnt get any money from cc/ua or anyone else.


I think every word on here is read and passed on to the girls. ! :D
If she doesn't get paid 'anything' by UAL then 'more fool her'. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

blondepeter
01-22-2007, 11:15 PM
Has anybody noticed that they have added very few new ladies since the whole thing crashed? Today I see a couple new additions, but not the usual "grab you by the eyes and the bag" kinda chicks. Just average. I haven't had any new 19 year olds wanting me for over a week now. I'm bored!

dublindevil
01-22-2007, 11:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Has anybody noticed that they have added very few new ladies since the whole thing crashed? Today I see a couple new additions, but not the usual "grab you by the eyes and the bag" kinda chicks. Just average. I haven't had any new 19 year olds wanting me for over a week now. I'm bored!


:D [:0]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

newduke
01-23-2007, 02:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Hey Dublin,

I just LOVE that ualadys.com has now put UALADYS.COM (EX CONFIDENTIAL CONNECTIONS) as their home page header!!! HA HA HA that will inexorably link this site with their own. God, what a buch of f**king idiots. I think the folks in New York must be asleep on the switch. This is beyond rank amateurism.

We really need a twelve step program for CC addiction. The last month I have slept better, accomplished more at work, and generally been more attune to the present moment. But I must say that giving up the fantasy of a terribly hot Ukrainian woman has not been entirely easy, and I do feel a certain sense of resignation. Ce la vie.



Hi Prometheus,

Newduke here again. Update on 4001:

Well, sadly for me I broke it off with lady 4001. She said in her last letter that she had a "big interest" in me and that it was too bad I believed in all the "rumors" about her. She did admit to having some unpleasant arguments with a man and didn't want to discuss it...maybe she was referring to you??? Anyhow, she said she believes the reason I want to stop correspondance is really because she mislead me about her not writing other men (VERY TRUE). She said perhaps my ending it was for the best. I wished her the best of luck finding what or whom she wanted.

Well, I believe she never had a strong interest in meeting anyway. Primarily because she would not provide me any assistance to see her (even though I explained I did not want to use CC) Also, I couldn't even get a firm committment on a date for us to meet me in Zhitomir. She made our future meeting sound pretty nebulous....No enthusiasm even after so much pleasant correspondance.

Just a side note: Now I have started writing a couple women on another site...I explained I didn't want use their agency for travel assistance and they have offered me all kinds of personal assistance..like picking me up at the airport or rail station, finding me a flat, reserving taxi, bringing along a translator, etc. all in advance. And, all this willingness to help me after just 6 letters to each!! WOW...I couldn't even get 4001 to help me AFTER 400 letters!!!!!!!

What a difference. Something is just not "right" about her attitude.

Newduke

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 04:42 AM
Agreed completely. She professed serious interest, but could not be nailed down to anything. I told her repeatedly, "don't waste your time or mine, just be honest about your feelings and intetions." I could never get a straight answer from her. We discussed meeting in Mexico, in the Crimea, or in Zhitomir, but there was always some hesitation on her part that led to me conclude she was not sincere. Now I wonder if I was only corresponding with a translator in the CC home office.

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 04:49 AM
Newduke,

Good luck on your new contacts and interests. I have met a lady also through another agency, and have a name, a phone number, and an address. We have already spoken on the telephone a dozen times and I wonder why I ever thought I needed to pay $7 for a cut and paste translated travelogue. Maybe I'll see you over there.

Oh, for future Google references, we are talking about Lyudmila Shevchyuk #4001. BEWARE.

siberianhusky
01-23-2007, 05:09 AM
Is this answer legit or is this company trying to give me the run around.

Hello, dear Anthony.

Thank you for e-mailing us and for using our services.

We guarantee safeness of your personal information and I have to repeat that our company doesn?t provide this information to anybody else.

Dear Anthony, you can ask the lady where she has got your information from. But we confirm and guarantee that your information has not been passed to the lady by our company.

But to clarify this situation, we have contacted the lady Elena #1586 and she said she has carefully read the forum where men are discussing ladies and letters. And she found the letter where man told about ordered lilies for her. And she said that you are the only one man who presented lilies to her. So she understood that siberianhusky was you.

That?s the information we have got from the lady about you. You can always ask herself about it.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us, we are always ready to help you!

We appreciate your membership!

Sincerely, UA Ladies Support Team

As you can read they are telling me that she found my personal information from this forum but if you look at my profile I did not provide my full name, only my email and a username which all of you know me by is Siberianhusky. The only possible explanation is UAL/CC gave it out and so they are responsible for my security and since they didn't do that they are now liable plus I will now be able to bring about a lawsuit against them.

Siberian

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 05:16 AM
Siberian, I would ask the administrator of this forum to redact your name from that post. I was horrified at the breach of warranty and confidentiality that CC's actions entailed.

siberianhusky
01-23-2007, 07:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Siberian, I would ask the administrator of this forum to redact your name from that post. I was horrified at the breach of warranty and confidentiality that CC's actions entailed.


Well if the admin can do this request then by all means do so as I have all the evidence agaisnt UAL/CC for giving out my personal information. I can't believe they tried to tell me to email her to find out, doi if I do that I would have to spend money to do so, are they completely ignorant, there is no way that I would give them more money to cheat me out of.

To all members what do you think about this situation?

Siberian

siberianhusky
01-23-2007, 08:01 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Newduke,

Good luck on your new contacts and interests. I have met a lady also through another agency, and have a name, a phone number, and an address. We have already spoken on the telephone a dozen times and I wonder why I ever thought I needed to pay $7 for a cut and paste translated travelogue. Maybe I'll see you over there.

Oh, for future Google references, we are talking about Lyudmila Shevchyuk #4001. BEWARE.


What new site are you using now Prometheus?

Siberian

howard darby
01-23-2007, 09:00 AM
SIBERIAN---THIS IS THE LETTER I SENT TO LENA AFTER MEETING YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE--THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THE SITES NAME SO HOW DID SHE FIND IT
HI MY DEAR LENA,
I DO NOT EXPECT YOUR TRANSLATOR TO GIVE YOU THIS LETTER BUT I AM WRITING IT ANYWAY. FOR THE PAST WEEK THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING WRONG AT CC AND THEIR WEB PAGE HAS BEEN DOWN. WHILE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS I CAME ACROSS A BLOG ALL ABOUT CC AND ITS SCAMS. THE ONLY REASON I WAS DOING THIS RESEARCH IS BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD LOST YOU WITH NO WAY TO FIND YOU SINCE WE ARE NOT GIVEN YOUR PHONE NUMBER, ADDRESS OR ANY WAY TO CONTACT YOU EXCEPT THRU CC( WHICH I FIND IS NOW CALLED UALADYS)WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE WRITING THE EXACT SAME LETTER TO A LEAST 8 GUYS THAT I HAVE MET ON THIS ANTI SCAM BLOG INCLUDING JIM IN THE ARMY FIGHTING IN IRAQ. NOW I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO WRITE TO AS MANY GUYS AS YOU WANT BUT IS IT RIGHT TO MAKE EVERYONE OF THEM FEEL THEY ARE THE SPECIAL ONE. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IF 4 OF US HAD SHOWED UP AT THE SAME TIME TO MEET YOU IN THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH. WE DID ALL HAVE TICKETS AND PLANS TO COME THAT WEEK. HOW WOULD YOU HAVE HANDLED ALL OF US AND HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR CC TURNING OFF THEIR SITE NONE OF US WOULD HAVE KNOWN. NOW I AM NOT EVEN SURE YOU HAD YOU SURGERY THIS SUMMER NOR AM I SURE ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE WRITTEN. IT EVEN TURNS OUT THAT STEVEN THE OWNER OF CC IS INTO PROSTUTION AND OWNS A CLUB IN KRAKOV.
WELL IRENA YOU CAN WRITE IF YOU WANT AND EXPLAIN THESE THINGS BUT I DOUBT YOUR TRANSLATOR WILL GIVE THIS TO YOU
HOWARD
LENA THEN RESPONDED TO THIS LETTER WITH THE ONE I PUT ON THE SITE EARLIER AND SENT TO YOU.
I SENT HER ANOTHER LETTER ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION AND WAS SHE GETTING PAID BY CC/UA TO BRING ALL THE LETTERS IN. I GTOLD HER IF SHE WAS TRULY SERIOUS I WAS STILL INTERESTED.--- THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED FROM THAT LETTER--

Hello Howard!
I don?t understand why you keep writing to me and telling that I am still not indifferent to you and that all the same you want to come to me and meet and at the same time you?ve sent my letter to forum and you keep discussing me with other men.
You know, if you really wanted to come to me in Spring, when I had surgery and if it was not just talks, you would have come and spend time with me in the hospital, sitting near my bed. It would be action of a real man.
Howard, I don?t want to write and explain to you anything else. I am not guilty and I am not going to make excuses. And else I want to say something ? I am not going to correspond via Internet for all my life. Iw ant real relations and feelings. I?ve never been married and I am going to get only once in my life and that?s why I am so attentive and careful about my choice. As there are so many bad people around, and sometimes they can wonderfully mask with kindness and honesty.
Howard, at the Agency they told me that you pay money for each letter, so I don?t want you to waste money on a useless correspondence. I will never be able to be with a man whom I won?t respect, and I will never respect you and those men from forum.
I wish you all the best and I won?t reply the further letters.
Lena

howard darby
01-23-2007, 09:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Has anybody noticed that they have added very few new ladies since the whole thing crashed? Today I see a couple new additions, but not the usual "grab you by the eyes and the bag" kinda chicks. Just average. I haven't had any new 19 year olds wanting me for over a week now. I'm bored!


IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE JUST ADDED OLDER LADIES WHICH IS GREAT FOR ME BUT THEY SURE ARENT AS CUTE AS THOSE YOUNG ONES--

dublindevil
01-23-2007, 01:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky


quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Siberian, I would ask the administrator of this forum to redact your name from that post. I was horrified at the breach of warranty and confidentiality that CC's actions entailed.


Well if the admin can do this request then by all means do so as I have all the evidence agaisnt UAL/CC for giving out my personal information. I can't believe they tried to tell me to email her to find out, doi if I do that I would have to spend money to do so, are they completely ignorant, there is no way that I would give them more money to cheat me out of.

To all members what do you think about this situation?

Siberian


I think it is disgusting Siberian. ! You spend thousands writing to women and they refuse to give you even a surname let alone contact details, and then they give your personal information to one of the girls. !! [:0] Sue, Sue. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Dublin,

I think the point is that CC posted on this forum and revealed the names of two long time victims with some derrogatory comments as well. What next? Post your credit card numbers on a hacker list?

Siberian and Newduke,

I've always been crazy about Slavic women. Moth drawn to a flame, perhaps, but I joined a local Russian language club when I was still corresponding with Lyudmila. It has monthly happy hours. There are quite a few young, attractive FSU immigr?s in this club. Most are still married to American sugar daddys, but a few are recently divorced. Many of them attend a local Orthodox church, which I also started attending. I met a family from Kiev at coffee last month, and told them about my bad CC experience. The wife mentioned that a friend of hers was looking to meeting someone like me through the Alena agency. She gave me the link info, and I liked what I saw. So this wasn't really a shot in the dark, but it was the best move that I've made. If you are serious in your desire for a real relationship with a FSU woman, and you don't have hairy knuckles, then get out and network with FSU women.

helskar
01-23-2007, 05:18 PM
IN SOME WAYS, WHAT I AM STATING HERE & NOW IS RELATED TO THIS WHOLE TOPIC... CC does not sound to have the privilege to Scr..up us all...!

DEC 08 2006 I was contacted by a very sweet Ukrainian girl through Anastasiaweb.com...!!!Things seem doing well between the two of us...!!!

I sent a nice n?2 letter to her JANUARY 15 2007...!!!Today JANUARY 23 2007, I can see late afternoon "Greenwhich" that my letter was TIMED READ at 09.38
This girl posted her answer also today TIMED SENT at 09.39
I am baffled & surprised: Such a lovely 20 lines letter written & sent
in just "ONE MINUTE"...???
What do you all think of that...???
How can this be...???
Also in that sweet & promising letter of her, there is a particular sentence that sounds to lead me to use extensively the "LOCAL AW SUPERMARKET" as to really please my lady...!!! GOOD MARKETING...???

HER LETTER QUOTE:

"I agree with everything you have written about. It is very important to make your beloved happy, paying a lot o attention to her, making some little surprises, like card, roses, flowers, toys. You unite together, merge into a single entity. You are very happy"....

Would anyone send us some feedback, having dealt with ANASTASIAWEB...???

Kind regards,
Helskar

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Helskar,

This thread is devoted to confidential connections, now ualadys.com. I'd suggest starting a new thread if you want to inquire about Anastasia web.

Another member posted this in October of 2005:

"Don't know which tour company you are considering, but if you will disclose it, someone will probably know about it.

"I've been to Russia and Ukraine quite a few times during the past 6 years. Always had a great time and met lots of ladies. But as far as marrying one and bringing her here, well that's an entirely different story. Much easier said than done.

"I have never been on a so-called "romance tour" but I can tell you that if you are considering European Connections, AForeignAffair or Anastasia, forget it.There is a place in Moscow on Tverskaya Street near Red Square. The LaCantina restuarant/nightclub. I go there often when in Moscow and I have ran into several of these tour groups there. It seems that the last night or two of the tour, when the socials are over, alot of guys end up at the LaCantina. American owned and everyone speaks English there.

"Anyway, these tour guys will sometimes show up in a pack of about 15-20. I always found it odd that only one or two would be with women. The rest would sit around, just as alone as they were when they arrived in Moscow. I spoke to a couple of guys one time and they basically said the tour sucked. Plenty of women but mostly very young early 20's. Not very serious women, mostly curiosity seekers. A few whores, married women and opportunists mixed in. Some of them paid to be there. Also the professional dater will attend these socials looking for nothing more than a good time.

"If you do go on the 'romance tour' you should also have a backup plan. As Nick says, write to a few women and arrange a personal meeting with them. Do not invite them to the socials.

"Another thing to beware of at the socials is the woman that will latch on to you from the start and claim you as her own. I have heard that alot of guys fall into this trap only to be disappointed in the end. Spending all of their time with a girl that was only interested in using you for gifts and a good time. At the same time, keeping you from meeting other more serious women. In the end, she desides that you are not her type."

A man's mind, streched by a new idea, will never re-gain it's original dimension.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Since confidential connections and anastasia web were mentioned in the same sentence as scams, then your post may actually be on subject.

:D

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 08:54 PM
Frank N Beans scores again!

Frank is the fictious 63 year old member of ualadys who only asks that "Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

Today's scam, the lovely Alyona! Age 38 (at least they are getting older, just 25 years younger than "Frank" this time!);)

Interestingly, Alyona states, "Betrayal is terrible, even if it goes about little things. It's like a blackout in the middle of a sunny day." How many 100's of men have been betrayed by "little things" from the women of confidential connections, now ualadys.com??? Scam artists!

From: Alyona G. #1837
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 23 January 2007 14:08:33

Subject: I want to find a man who would understand me without words...Maybe it`s you?!!!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ALYONA.

Hello Frank J!!!

I suggest you to get acquainted..:)))))

My name is Alyona.

I want to find my "other half".?.

I want to find a man who would understand me without words, a man who could be my best friend, lover, who will never betray. Betrayal is terrible, even if it goes about little things. It's like a blackout in the middle of a sunny day. It's sad but people sometimes do that.

Love may end, passion may fade, but two people can always be good friends caring about each other; or at least they can smile to each other when meet in the street accidentally. Unfortunately, people sometimes don't do that. I think that the best gift is to have love, understanding, support.

Our life consists of many descreetthings, trifles, and we are able to make them pleasant for our beloved ones. And what do you think?

Please write me if you think my letter is interesting to you.

Sincerely,

Alyona

Prometheus
01-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Newduke,

Here was my last letter from the lovely Lyudmila S #4001

------------------------------------

I see you have too many reasons against of our relationships. I am sorry, but most of them sound ridiculous. . .


You say that you want to see a woman who wants you as strongly as you want her. First of all, it is impossible to determine the level of love and passion through letters. Besides, I am more reserved than you and it is difficult for me to write passionate letters to you! It is not a real life!

You say that I didn't have a wish to meet you! But how can you say that? You suggessted to meet in the Crimea! I would never go to the seaside with a man I have never seen before.

Well, [], it is your position and I don't want to make you doing something you have no wish to do.

So, i wish you you all the best in your life! And how can you say about love to me if you give up so quickly? NOTE: WE HAD BEEN WRITING ON AND OFF FOR 3.5 YEARS! "GIVE UP SO QUICKLY"??? GIVE ME A BREAK.

Sincerely, Lyuda

Glimmertwin34
01-24-2007, 05:42 PM
HI Everyone!

I am sad to say that, as of today, the wonderful relationship that Elena G and I had has ended. She has abruptly ended our relationship and contributes it to this board.

I think at this point we should be believing that all the "ladies" are real and that they are reading this forum. Obviously they read and write English, so why would they use CC when they could use some other add site...heck...myspace is free.

I guess my dream died today...:( Yeah..right..:D

So this is my letter to Elena G and her response back to me:

Dear Lena,

I was happy to read your letter. I did not know that CC had changed their website and was very surprised to find it under a different name. Why this change? I am very confused?

I asked you in my last letter about when the best time would be to come and visit you and did not get a response. I think that we could write each other forever but still will not know if their is a chemistry until we meet. I think I will come to the Ukraine the first week of March and would like to meet you then.

I have spent all this time with my daughter and have enjoyed being with her again. I dearly missed her and am a very lucky man to have such a wonderful daughter.

Let me know about coming to see you in March.

Have a GREAT DAY!
James

Hello dear Jim!

Thank you for the letter.

I have reread all those letters, you?ve sent to me and it seems that our correspondence has no future. I don?t want to correspond via internet for all my life, I want real relationships and feelings. By the way, you could continue your correspondence with other men and keep discussing me with them.

Jim, I will never be able to be with a man whom I won?t respect, and I will never respect you and those men from forum

I know that you pay money for each letter and I advise you not to spend money on this useless correspondence. It makes no sense to continue this.

Wish you all the best!

Lena


So is certainly seems that this forum is being shown to the ladies...yet, I hardly would believe this to be true as the ladies would be leaving the agency in droves once they found out what the agency was doing.

My best guess would be that a transalator has been writing all these "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" letters to all of us. Yes, I was taken for some money...but they will never see another dime from me.

If anyone wishes to continue to write to these ladies, you are wasting your money and if you want to waste your money...write me and I will only charge you $5 a letter and you will get a "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" response...oh pictures will be 1/2 price always!!!

Jim

Prometheus
01-24-2007, 06:10 PM
I think these letters expressing "shock" and "betrayal" are just part of the same pattern of scamming that we have witnessed so brutally through this forum. They know that the men who have posted here are not going to continue giving their hard earned cash to ualadys.com for a cheap fantasy, so why not silence them by pretending to be devastated by the exposure of their lies??? I notice that we now have more posts on this new forum topic, but only half the "eyeballs" (views) that the confidential connections thread had... why? Because many men are right back shelling out $7 a throw for a crock of **** to soothe their trouble souls with...

dublindevil
01-24-2007, 09:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

I think these letters expressing "shock" and "betrayal" are just part of the same pattern of scamming that we have witnessed so brutally through this forum. They know that the men who have posted here are not going to continue giving their hard earned cash to ualadys.com for a cheap fantasy, so why not silence them by pretending to be devastated by the exposure of their lies??? I notice that we now have more posts on this new forum topic, but only half the "eyeballs" (views) that the confidential connections thread had... why? Because many men are right back shelling out $7 a throw for a crock of **** to soothe their trouble souls with...

I think 'admin' owes us an Easter Egg. ! We resurrected this forum when it was dead and nobody posting for ages. ! Now its really alive. ! :D Anyway, I think maybe the lack of 'views' compared to CC is morely likely because Guys have now become aware of CC and UAL and having learned lots from us have now gone looking for other agencies or sites. ? There was only a limited amount they could contribute or read on here so now they have moved on. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-24-2007, 09:31 PM
My best guess would be that a transalator has been writing all these "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" letters to all of us. Yes, I was taken for some money...but they will never see another dime from me.
Very true. Its not the girls, its the team of translators. !
If anyone wishes to continue to write to these ladies, you are wasting your money and if you want to waste your money...write me and I will only charge you $5 a letter and you will get a "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" response...oh pictures will be 1/2 price always!!!
Hahaha. Well said. If I write to you can I have a Pic in a bikini please. !!
[:p]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Glimmertwin34
01-24-2007, 10:12 PM
Hahaha. Well said. If I write to you can I have a Pic in a bikini please. !!



The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue

Sure...but remember...you have to pay for the picture!! At least you know who will be writing these letters! LOL :D

Jim

blondepeter
01-24-2007, 11:22 PM
With regards to some of these girls having English skills. I communicated with the manager of another site in Sevastopol because #7536 Irina was on her site also. She told me that she had never spoken to Irina personally, but that Irina was communicating through her agency by herself, no translations. I have personally been to the FSU 3 times and met 4 different women and they all spoke decent English. And their friends did too. When ever I had a problem in Odessa some one always came forward with enough English to help me out. My land lady spoke 4 languages. My friend met a woman in Kherson last March and her English is good. I think there's a lot more English going on then UA Ladies would like us to know about.

thefly
01-25-2007, 01:56 AM
These sites are NOTHING but scams. If any of you are desperate enough to drop a few grand on some woman that you've never met you deserve whatever comes to you.

I received one of these "Letters" a few days ago and without hesitating I contacted the sender back asking one question........

Who they were.

What I got was amazing.....

A full blown letter saying how much they love me.....ONE FRICKEN EMAIL with no answers to my simple question

My main mission is to turn around and try to scam the scam artist.

The picture that she sent me, after some research on her email headers,doing a reverse lookup and many other nifty little tricks I know, I found it sitting on a black list.

This is going to be so much fun.....stay tuned

howard darby
01-25-2007, 05:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HI Everyone!

I am sad to say that, as of today, the wonderful relationship that Elena G and I had has ended. She has abruptly ended our relationship and contributes it to this board.

I think at this point we should be believing that all the "ladies" are real and that they are reading this forum. Obviously they read and write English, so why would they use CC when they could use some other add site...heck...myspace is free.

I guess my dream died today...:( Yeah..right..:D

So this is my letter to Elena G and her response back to me:

Dear Lena,

I was happy to read your letter. I did not know that CC had changed their website and was very surprised to find it under a different name. Why this change? I am very confused?

I asked you in my last letter about when the best time would be to come and visit you and did not get a response. I think that we could write each other forever but still will not know if their is a chemistry until we meet. I think I will come to the Ukraine the first week of March and would like to meet you then.

I have spent all this time with my daughter and have enjoyed being with her again. I dearly missed her and am a very lucky man to have such a wonderful daughter.

Let me know about coming to see you in March.

Have a GREAT DAY!
James

Hello dear Jim!

Thank you for the letter.

I have reread all those letters, you?ve sent to me and it seems that our correspondence has no future. I don?t want to correspond via internet for all my life, I want real relationships and feelings. By the way, you could continue your correspondence with other men and keep discussing me with them.

Jim, I will never be able to be with a man whom I won?t respect, and I will never respect you and those men from forum

I know that you pay money for each letter and I advise you not to spend money on this useless correspondence. It makes no sense to continue this.

Wish you all the best!

Lena


So is certainly seems that this forum is being shown to the ladies...yet, I hardly would believe this to be true as the ladies would be leaving the agency in droves once they found out what the agency was doing.

My best guess would be that a transalator has been writing all these "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" letters to all of us. Yes, I was taken for some money...but they will never see another dime from me.

If anyone wishes to continue to write to these ladies, you are wasting your money and if you want to waste your money...write me and I will only charge you $5 a letter and you will get a "wonderful, flower filled and romantic" response...oh pictures will be 1/2 price always!!!

Jim


HEY GLIMMER=
I TOO GOT DUMPED BY LENA===HERE IS MY LAST LETTER FROM HER= LOOK FAMILIAR
Hello Howard!
I don?t understand why you keep writing to me and telling that I am still not indifferent to you and that all the same you want to come to me and meet and at the same time you?ve sent my letter to forum and you keep discussing me with other men.
You know, if you really wanted to come to me in Spring, when I had surgery and if it was not just talks, you would have come and spend time with me in the hospital, sitting near my bed. It would be action of a real man.
Howard, I don?t want to write and explain to you anything else. I am not guilty and I am not going to make excuses. And else I want to say something ? I am not going to correspond via Internet for all my life. Iw ant real relations and feelings. I?ve never been married and I am going to get only once in my life and that?s why I am so attentive and careful about my choice. As there are so many bad people around, and sometimes they can wonderfully mask with kindness and honesty.
Howard, at the Agency they told me that you pay money for each letter, so I don?t want you to waste money on a useless correspondence. I will never be able to be with a man whom I won?t respect, and I will never respect you and those men from forum.
I wish you all the best and I won?t reply the further letters.
Lena

I GUESS THEY ARE EVEN COPY AND PASTE THE DUMP LETTERS

GMAN
01-25-2007, 09:40 AM
How come they always give the same answer:
Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

We know about those forums.
They write about us, because of the complains of the rivals who tried
to prevent our work. All those posts in the antiscam forums are not
true. We never write instead of the ladies or use their faces without their
permission.
They correspond on their own. If you come to us you will assure in
that!
You can read the testimonials on our site, they are 100% true and they
are from the men who have used our services and found their soulmate
here and got married with the wonderful, beautiful and responsible
Ukrainian woman.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



gtearne

newduke
01-25-2007, 12:40 PM
No matter what people do here about CC/UA, 100s if not 1000's of unwitting guys will not do their homework and continue using agencies like this. Hopefully at least a few will do a better job of researching an agency before spending a ton of money like I did. So, if our comments on this forum have a least helped a few guys save their money, then we have done something good.

dadepfan
01-25-2007, 03:05 PM
Hey guys, for those of you who are attracted to Asian women, I've started a subject on Asian Kisses, which (so far) seems legit to me. Read the first post for details.

Regarding UALadys, I'm still a member, but not buying anything now. I'm getting daily emails from new (young and beautiful) girls, and I have not yet heard from Billing regarding the two months of unlimited emails to Valentina I bought just before she quit the agency!

Dave

David A Desautel

dublindevil
01-25-2007, 04:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Hey guys, for those of you who are attracted to Asian women, I've started a subject on Asian Kisses, which (so far) seems legit to me. Read the first post for details.

Regarding UALadys, I'm still a member, but not buying anything now. I'm getting daily emails from new (young and beautiful) girls, and I have not yet heard from Billing regarding the two months of unlimited emails to Valentina I bought just before she quit the agency!

Dave

David A Desautel


David, are they refusing to pay you back ?? :(

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

blondepeter
01-25-2007, 04:47 PM
You guys are gonna love this, especially the two dozen or so that have communicated with the lovely Irina #7536. If you recall I sent my man to her door, several days later I received a good bye letter from Irina saying the she was "chocked" that I would take advantage of her in this way, and there was no point continuing. Well, she's had a change of heart and me along with a dozen other guys are all she can think about.Subject:
Irina S. #7536
Peter C. #348594
25 January 2007 11:52:22

Did you forget me?


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TRANSLATED FOR IRINA


Hello my Dear


Last time I have been thinking a lot about us, I felt that I have been missing you. You know, for his or that reason I felt that you were close to me. With all my heard I knew that you are the one I was looking for. Dear this was just a feeling but I wont to try it. What if you are exactly the man from my dreams? What if you are that man that I see in my dreams. Everytime I wake up I try to remember the face but I can't. Something doesn't let me know who was the man that was so tender with me, Who was he who treated me like a queen and swore to be near forever. I wish I knew....


But reading your letters I saw some sings, I felt that there is something familiar in your way of speaking, your way of expressing your feeling, your way of saying compliments. I thought a lot what was it from. I know that it's from my real life, not at all. This is why I suspect you to be the hero of my dreams. Please if it's really you, show me your face in my next vision!!! Don't torture my soul, Be with me.

Dear I wish you knew how much I have missed you....


Your Irina.

She asks, "Did you forget me?" Hell no babe! You were the one that helped me see the light! You were the one that helped me realize that I should always trust my suspicions. I'll always be grateful for that. Peter

imported_uljoh
01-25-2007, 04:59 PM
I noticed, one guy here received a certain kind of "intoduction letter"; exactly as mine before on "Confidential Connection".
See the letter below!

I wasnt even a member on CC before that.
It has puzzled me how they got hold of my email.
I asked the lady about it a bit, but I didnt get any answeres.
I suppose the Agency send this kind of letters, and if the guy answer, everybody`s happy. So far.

I think new guys on UAL receive the same kind of letters now, and of course they dont know anything about that.

The "introduction letter":

Hello, dear!
Here I am, do you remember me:)?
I would like to keep on our correspondence through this site as I have no possibility anymore to send you my letters myself- unfortunately I don't speak English well enough to correspond and my friend who used to help me with the translation left:(
So, now I have to pay for the translation even of the shortest letter and at the moment I cannot afford it.
If you would like we could send each other letters through Confidential Connections as all the services are free for me here and they will be translating my letters to you for free.
What do you think?
Reply to me please, I would like us to go on in our communication.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bye, yours, ..........

/ uljoh

dadepfan
01-25-2007, 06:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Hey guys, for those of you who are attracted to Asian women, I've started a subject on Asian Kisses, which (so far) seems legit to me. Read the first post for details.

Regarding UALadys, I'm still a member, but not buying anything now. I'm getting daily emails from new (young and beautiful) girls, and I have not yet heard from Billing regarding the two months of unlimited emails to Valentina I bought just before she quit the agency!

Dave

David A Desautel


David, are they refusing to pay you back ?? :(

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


They have only said that they sent it on to Billing, but that was at least two weeks ago.

Dave

David A Desautel

nicklish57
01-25-2007, 10:54 PM
Hello Everyone. Here is something I think will put a stop to the letters that are not generated by the ladies themselves. If there is a refusal to comply then I would say there was 100 percent chance that the letters are not completely written by the lady.

Letter of identity and correspondence certification:

I (ladies First name and last initial) Profile number (ladies profile number) a member of the (name of agency)...ie UALADY?S... certify that all correspondence to you through this service has been written by me with the understanding that there will be some minor changes during the translation process. I also understand that copies of these letters can be made for further reference to our correspondence that would be needed for legal requests such as Visa?s. Under no circumstances can these letters be posted on any other site with my name associated with them in any way without my permission. The only purpose of this agreement is to protect both parties from fraudulent use of the service provided by a third party.

Signed: Ladies first name and ID number_______________________________-

dublindevil
01-26-2007, 05:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

You guys are gonna love this, especially the two dozen or so that have communicated with the lovely Irina #7536. If you recall I sent my man to her door, several days later I received a good bye letter from Irina saying the she was "chocked" that I would take advantage of her in this way, and there was no point continuing. Well, she's had a change of heart and me along with a dozen other guys are all she can think about.Subject:
Irina S. #7536
Peter C. #348594
25 January 2007 11:52:22

Did you forget me?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TRANSLATED FOR IRINA


Hello my Dear


Last time I have been thinking a lot about us, I felt that I have been missing you. You know, for his or that reason I felt that you were close to me. With all my heard I knew that you are the one I was looking for. Dear this was just a feeling but I wont to try it. What if you are exactly the man from my dreams? What if you are that man that I see in my dreams. Everytime I wake up I try to remember the face but I can't. Something doesn't let me know who was the man that was so tender with me, Who was he who treated me like a queen and swore to be near forever. I wish I knew....


But reading your letters I saw some sings, I felt that there is something familiar in your way of speaking, your way of expressing your feeling, your way of saying compliments. I thought a lot what was it from. I know that it's from my real life, not at all. This is why I suspect you to be the hero of my dreams. Please if it's really you, show me your face in my next vision!!! Don't torture my soul, Be with me.

Dear I wish you knew how much I have missed you....


Your Irina.

She asks, "Did you forget me?" Hell no babe! You were the one that helped me see the light! You were the one that helped me realize that I should always trust my suspicions. I'll always be grateful for that. Peter

WOW. Thats a disgusting letter. ! UAL must be dredging the mud now to be sending out such awful stuff. ! Like I have always said, CC & UAL think that all men can only think with their 'b***s' and we are therefore brainless idiots easily manipulated. !!


<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Prometheus
01-26-2007, 06:43 PM
I knew that you are the one I was looking for. Dear this was just a feeling but I wont to try it. What if you are exactly the man from my dreams? What if you are that man that I see in my dreams. Everytime I wake up I try to remember the face but I can't.

I have had the EXACT same "dream" related to me more than once by other ualadys.com "ladies." This is a signature scam letter that is recycled.

Prometheus
01-26-2007, 07:57 PM
"Frank" just got another letter from Alyona... identical to the one "she" sent three days ago.

From: Alyona G. #1837
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 26 January 2007 01:44:40

Subject: I want to find a man who would understand me without words...Maybe it`s you?!!!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ALYONA.

Hello Frank J!!!

I suggest you to get acquainted..:)))))

My name is Alyona.

I want to find my "other half".?.

I want to find a man who would understand me without words, a man who could be my best friend, lover, [u]who will never betray. Betrayal is terrible, even if it goes about little things. It's like a blackout in the middle of a sunny day. It's sad but people sometimes do that. </u> [Do "people sometimes do that"???]

Love may end, passion may fade, but two people can always be good friends caring about each other; or at least they can smile to each other when meet in the street accidentally. Unfortunately, people sometimes don't do that. I think that the best gift is to have love, understanding, support.

Our life consists of many descreetthings, trifles, and we are able to make them pleasant for our beloved ones. And what do you think?

Please write me if you think my letter is interesting to you.

Sincerely,

Alyona

Silver
01-26-2007, 08:47 PM
Hello guys...
I can see that you have been very busy...hehehehe

I do not like to talk about women specially if I do not have anything nice to say about them but all girls at confidentialconnections - Ualadys are involved in a fradulent operation they are not innocent even when some of you still belive in Santa Claus so, for further references I will post some of my experiences and now that you are talking about letters here it goes one..

From: Elena G. #1586
To: Silver. #XXXXXX
Subject: What do I`ve gotta say to you to get to your heart?
THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Dear Silver ,

Have you ever loved somebody so much it makes you cry?

Have you ever needed something so bad you can?t sleep at night?

Have you ever tried to find the words but they didn?t come out right.

Have you ever been in love? Been in love so bad. You would do anything to make them understand. Have you ever had someone steal your heart away You?d give anything to make them feel the same.

Have you ever been searched for the words to get you in their heart?

But you don?t know what to say. And you don?t know where to start.

Have you ever found the one You?ve dreamed of all of your life? You?d do anything to look into their eyes. Have you finally found the one you would give your heart to Only to find that one won?t give their heart to you.

Have you ever closed your eyes and Dreamed that they were there? And all you can do is wait for the day when they will care.

What do I`ve gotta do to get you in my arms?

What do I`ve gotta say to you to get to your heart?

To make you understand how I need you next to me. Gotta get you in my world, I can?t sleep....

Elena

Prometheus
01-26-2007, 08:58 PM
Silver,

Of all the lazy, copyright infringing, no royalty paying, punk ass crap to pull...

Your letter is the lyrics to a song by Brandy.

BRANDY LYRICS

"Have You Ever?"

[Chorus]
Have you ever loved somebody so much
It makes you cry
Have you ever needed something so bad
You can't sleep at night
Have you ever tried to find the words
But they don't come out right
Have you ever, have you ever

Have you ever been in love
Been in love so bad
You'd do anything to make them understand
Have you ever had someone steal your heart away
You'd give anything to make them feel the same
Have you ever searched for words to get you in their heart
But you don't know what to say
And you don't know where to start
[Chorus]

Have you ever found the one
You've dreamed of all of your life
You'd do just about anything to look into their eyes
Have you finally found the one you've given your heart to
Only to find that one won't give their heart to you
Have you ever closed your eyes and
Dreamed that they were there
And all you can do is wait for the day when they will care
[Chorus]

What do I gotta do to get you in my arms baby
What do I gotta say to get to your heart
To make you understand how I need you next to me
Gotta get you in my world
'Cuz baby I can't sleep
[Chorus]

So Elena is channeling the 27 year old Mississippi chanteuse better known as Moesha! Good one. :D

dadepfan
01-26-2007, 09:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Hey guys, for those of you who are attracted to Asian women, I've started a subject on Asian Kisses, which (so far) seems legit to me. Read the first post for details.

Regarding UALadys, I'm still a member, but not buying anything now. I'm getting daily emails from new (young and beautiful) girls, and I have not yet heard from Billing regarding the two months of unlimited emails to Valentina I bought just before she quit the agency!

Dave

David A Desautel


David, Whats the name of the Topic. ?

Here is a laugh for you. ! I was scanning the site and found this little 'chick' who was interested in a man 18 to 80, so I signed up. I put her in my 'favourites' folder, but didn't send her any message, and within hours got a message from her. !!
When I checked out her profile again it said on one of the lines " I am a ladyboy". (Transsexual or Transvestite) :([B)] A BIG disappointment. !
Incidently I thought the site was dot.Net but I now find myself on dot.DE ??

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


LOL! Yes, that happened to me as well. There are all kinds on that site! I contacted her before I realized what she/he was! At least they are honest in their profiles.

I started a new topic under "Scam or Not," the same place ULADYS is at. I saw it there once and now it is gone. I think I titled it "How About Asian Kisses?"

Today I posted a message here asking if anyone knew why admin deleted my new topic and edited my messages here to remove the ".net" I added to correct the Asian Kisses address. I cannot find that post now! Do they think I am spamming here?
Dave

David A Desautel

Silver
01-26-2007, 09:24 PM
Now, I subscribed to CC - UAladys because in the main page they offer their matchmaking services in several languages including spanish...

Elena G. #1586
The best gift...
THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR Lena

Hello, my dear Silver!

I really would like to conquer your heart. And now I know all our misunderstandings are because of language difference. Unfortunately there is no Spanish interpreter at the agency and all your letters in Spanish were translated for me with the help of computer translator and I understood almost nothing.

Dear Silver, I asked you to write me in English, because I will be able to understand everything that way. I don?t want to lose you and I would like to continue our communication?.

Silver, I look on your picture every day and think about you, my darling, and about how it would be wonderful to meet you in person?

Elena

CC UAladys charged me for every single translated letter using a computer program...

How do you call that...???

FRAUD

Prometheus
01-26-2007, 09:38 PM
All I ever got out of Finance Connections was stuff like this.

TRANSLATED FOR MARINI:

Dear Mr. Prometheus, I want me meet you and you meet me. You sounding, how you say? A good western boy and i likey you, perhaps we chitchat and i take photo of you wearing a niiiice Argentina sweater made of finest llama hair, some hint of urine smell is okie dokie, it's a perfume. I preference man with yellow hairs, with plough experience and little or no history of retardation in family. I would like to meet you and make romance with u sir.

If you agree be my husband then you will come my country, I will give you not 1 but 2 telephone and a television with remote control, a kodak film (sorry we no have camera) I will love you and care for you, we will be as one... but if u cheat on me I will kill you!

Marini

Also I like meet nice women, as friend - no sexytime.

Silver
01-26-2007, 10:07 PM
Hi Elena Alejnik...

How are you...???

I have been using your services since last year and I have to tell you that I am really interesting in going on a trip with your company but, today I would like to share with you some doubts I have about all these after reading a story...

First of all...

I am supposed because of your publicity that you have professional translators for spanish language but now I know that your translation services from spanish to russian are made using a translation program in your computers because there are not spanish translators in all your branches and I know it because you staff told me that when I order a custom video with my questions in spanish...this is a big problem for me but well I will try to do my best writing in english...

Now lets see...

The most important thing for me is to know that you are a real agency a friend of mine sent this link to me (www.antiscam.net)...

Before telling you my doubts I would like to tell you the story that I read about your company this evening...

There is a guy who claimed he has been at fianceconnections for 10 days last year, he said that after several months of positive correspondence with one girl from buenos aires, after the girl invited him to visit her, after a reverse introduction and after settled a date for the first meeting at your office he never could meet this girl in 10 days he was there because your office in buenos aires never could contacted her...like if she was never exist in reality...

Instead of that he was introduced to some other girls...

He says more things in his story about the visit he made to fianceconnections,....in his own words...((Fellas avoid CC at all costs after dealing with them personally in their offices this is the conclusion I have come to : The owners of the business are EXTREMELY money-hungry!))

At this point I have to say that I am a industrialist man and if I have an industry it is because I have to make money from it...
So, I understand you run a business and you have to make profits from it...I have no problem with that...

Besides I know for sure than traveling in a foreign country without speaking the language it is always expensive for many reasons...and...

I know it very well because I travel a lot...

But, what I really want to make you understand it is that...

If I am going to buy a trip with your company and fly about 18,000 kilometers it will be to meet just one girl that is what I want to and I want to be sure that I am gonna meet her...(I am not interesting in meeting a lot of beautiful girls) I am a real man looking for a real woman thinking that I am using a real company who can offer me the services that I need for my trip...so, if your company can offer this to me then I have no problems using all your services...

But first of all I want to be sure of one simple thing...

This is it...

How can I be sure that the ladies I am corresponding with are the ladies who are answering to my letters if I can not exchange any kind of personal information...??? How can you prove it to me...??? By the moment I am corresponding with two girls so, please prove it to me once and I have no problems at all...I will buy you a trip and keep using your services with the security that everything in your site is for real...

I am asking you this because I don?t want to fly about 18,000 kms to finally find out that you could not contact the lady I am interested and corresponding with when I arrive there...???

So, I really hope you could help me with this and prove me that the girls I am corresponding with are the girls who are answering to my letters and if you could do that for me then inmediatly I will buy you a trip and keep using all your services...

Hoping to hear from you soon...

Silver............................................ .........................................

Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator
Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

As to your question, yes I understand your opinion about Spanish translator and translating letters via computer translator. But we do not have Spanish translator and it would be great if you could send letters in English language.

Dear Silver, there may be a lot of rumours regarding trips and meeting with ladies. Those who haven?t had any correspondence with the lady prior arrival, certainly may be disappointed about not meeting the lady. But those who inform ladies about the time of their arrival and have a good and deep correspondence with the lady always meet her in person.

Dear Silver, of course we understand that it?s not so easy and cheap to fly so far away to meet with the lady and of course you should meet with the lady when you finally arrive.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager........................................... .........................

Hi Elena Alejnik...

Thank you for your reply but you did not answer to my question...

So here it goes again...

How can I be sure that the girls I am corresponding with are the girls who are answering to my letters...???

Thanks, Silver............................................ ..............

Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator

Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

Certainly we will introduce you to the lady of your choise as soon as you arrive to our offices.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, I am always happy to help you.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager .................................................. ....

Silver
01-26-2007, 10:19 PM
Finally Elena Alejnik, exconfidentialconnections or UAladys never answered to my question...

besides they accepted do not have spanish translators even when they say so in their main page...

so, the veredict is...

this site is a FRAUD..........(

Silver
01-26-2007, 10:22 PM
by the way Prometheus thanks for the info I will download the song to hear it....hahahaha

dublindevil
01-26-2007, 10:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Silver

Hi Elena Alejnik...

How are you...???

I have been using your services since last year and I have to tell you that I am really interesting in going on a trip with your company but, today I would like to share with you some doubts I have about all these after reading a story...

First of all...

I am supposed because of your publicity that you have professional translators for spanish language but now I know that your translation services from spanish to russian are made using a translation program in your computers because there are not spanish translators in all your branches and I know it because you staff told me that when I order a custom video with my questions in spanish...this is a big problem for me but well I will try to do my best writing in english...

Now lets see...

The most important thing for me is to know that you are a real agency a friend of mine sent this link to me (www.antiscam.net)...

Before telling you my doubts I would like to tell you the story that I read about your company this evening...

There is a guy who claimed he has been at fianceconnections for 10 days last year, he said that after several months of positive correspondence with one girl from buenos aires, after the girl invited him to visit her, after a reverse introduction and after settled a date for the first meeting at your office he never could meet this girl in 10 days he was there because your office in buenos aires never could contacted her...like if she was never exist in reality...

Instead of that he was introduced to some other girls...

He says more things in his story about the visit he made to fianceconnections,....in his own words...((Fellas avoid CC at all costs after dealing with them personally in their offices this is the conclusion I have come to : The owners of the business are EXTREMELY money-hungry!))

At this point I have to say that I am a industrialist man and if I have an industry it is because I have to make money from it...
So, I understand you run a business and you have to make profits from it...I have no problem with that...

Besides I know for sure than traveling in a foreign country without speaking the language it is always expensive for many reasons...and...

I know it very well because I travel a lot...

But, what I really want to make you understand it is that...

If I am going to buy a trip with your company and fly about 18,000 kilometers it will be to meet just one girl that is what I want to and I want to be sure that I am gonna meet her...(I am not interesting in meeting a lot of beautiful girls) I am a real man looking for a real woman thinking that I am using a real company who can offer me the services that I need for my trip...so, if your company can offer this to me then I have no problems using all your services...

But first of all I want to be sure of one simple thing...

This is it...

How can I be sure that the ladies I am corresponding with are the ladies who are answering to my letters if I can not exchange any kind of personal information...??? How can you prove it to me...??? By the moment I am corresponding with two girls so, please prove it to me once and I have no problems at all...I will buy you a trip and keep using your services with the security that everything in your site is for real...

I am asking you this because I don?t want to fly about 18,000 kms to finally find out that you could not contact the lady I am interested and corresponding with when I arrive there...???

So, I really hope you could help me with this and prove me that the girls I am corresponding with are the girls who are answering to my letters and if you could do that for me then inmediatly I will buy you a trip and keep using all your services...

Hoping to hear from you soon...

Silver............................................ .........................................

Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator
Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

As to your question, yes I understand your opinion about Spanish translator and translating letters via computer translator. But we do not have Spanish translator and it would be great if you could send letters in English language.

Dear Silver, there may be a lot of rumours regarding trips and meeting with ladies. Those who haven?t had any correspondence with the lady prior arrival, certainly may be disappointed about not meeting the lady. But those who inform ladies about the time of their arrival and have a good and deep correspondence with the lady always meet her in person.

Dear Silver, of course we understand that it?s not so easy and cheap to fly so far away to meet with the lady and of course you should meet with the lady when you finally arrive.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager........................................... .........................

Hi Elena Alejnik...

Thank you for your reply but you did not answer to my question...

So here it goes again...

How can I be sure that the girls I am corresponding with are the girls who are answering to my letters...???

Thanks, Silver............................................ ..............

Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator

Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

Certainly we will introduce you to the lady of your choise as soon as you arrive to our offices.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, I am always happy to help you.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager .................................................. ....


Silver. They will never answer your question 'specifically'. Just answers in general terms. ! There is no guarantee you will get to meet that one girl. They always seem to find reasons why she cannot be available to meet anyone............. A serious FRAUD. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Silver
01-26-2007, 10:59 PM
No doubt about it...
the site Ualadys - exconfidentialconnections is a completely....
FRAUD...

Silver
01-26-2007, 11:12 PM
and...
I have more stories and proofs I have the recepits...about services that I paid for and that never were delivered...Flowers, custom videos, gifts...a couple of months later...when I complaint about the payment I made for services that I never got...this was more or less the same answer for each issue...

Yura Filin-Filinyuk
BILLING DEPARTMENT

Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

I bring my deepest apologies for this misunderstanding. Certainly we will deliver your bouquet of flowers and card with your message.

I bring my apologies again.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, I am always happy to help you.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager

helskar
01-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Why not reporting each Branch to local "Ukrainian Tax Police"quote]Originally posted by Silver

and...
I have more stories and proofs I have the recepits...about services that I paid for and that never were delivered...Flowers, custom videos, gifts...a couple of months later...when I complaint about the payment I made for services that I never got...this was more or less the same answer for each issue...

Yura Filin-Filinyuk
BILLING DEPARTMENT

Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

I bring my deepest apologies for this misunderstanding. Certainly we will deliver your bouquet of flowers and card with your message.

I bring my apologies again.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, I am always happy to help you.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager
[/quote]

blondepeter
01-27-2007, 03:09 PM
Wow, UA Ladys sure won't give up on me. Now they are offering a free video conference with Irina #7536 to prove that she is real, trying to pry more cash out of me. What would be the point though, they will call her in to the office and she will sit in front of the camera and pretend she speaks no English and the translator can repeat anything she wants to me and her. When they hit me with her latest scam letter I asked for 10 free emails and some "real" photos, for my time that was wasted with generic letters. Elena said she can't do that but she offered the free video conferencing. I think they are trying extra hard because I only spent $63 with them.

dublindevil
01-27-2007, 03:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Wow, UA Ladys sure won't give up on me. Now they are offering a free video conference with Irina #7536 to prove that she is real, trying to pry more cash out of me. What would be the point though, they will call her in to the office and she will sit in front of the camera and pretend she speaks no English and the translator can repeat anything she wants to me and her. When they hit me with her latest scam letter I asked for 10 free emails and some "real" photos, for my time that was wasted with generic letters. Elena said she can't do that but she offered the free video conferencing. I think they are trying extra hard because I only spent $63 with them.


Crooks. Peter. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-27-2007, 03:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by helskar

Why not reporting each Branch to local "Ukrainian Tax Police"quote]Originally posted by Silver

and...
I have more stories and proofs I have the recepits...about services that I paid for and that never were delivered...Flowers, custom videos, gifts...a couple of months later...when I complaint about the payment I made for services that I never got...this was more or less the same answer for each issue...

Yura Filin-Filinyuk
BILLING DEPARTMENT

Hello, dear Silver.

Thank you for e-mailing us, we are always happy to help you.

I bring my deepest apologies for this misunderstanding. Certainly we will deliver your bouquet of flowers and card with your message.

I bring my apologies again.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, I am always happy to help you.

We appreciate your membership!

Best regards,

Elena, trip manager

[/quote]

Yes, helskar, if you can find or locate them. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Glimmertwin34
01-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Newduke,

Unfortunately you are correct. Unless there is a way to get this forum to supersede UA anytime there is an internet search, guys will still be uneducated and go to them.

Yes, we all know that CC or UA is running a huge scam. No women is going to write to "Frank N Beans" by his description. That is absolutely crazy. Yet, Sergi will not answer to how these fictitous people are getting letters.

How did Elena G find out about the postings here? Of course she does not exist...at least to how so many guys new of her. I am sure at one time CC lured her in by saying that they would take pictures of her for a possible modeling deal and she had to bring some of her own in.

I was dumb...got it...but never again...and if Serge thinks that I would be dumb enough to spend loads of money to travel there to get turned away...he is CRAZY!!! I am not old...39...in great shape and not ugly...I just like Slavic women...there is something about them that has always attracted me to them.

I think I will find out where the Russian or Ukranian women are hanging out around my area and go from there. Heck..a cup of coffee is a lot cheaper then one letter through UA!!!

Jim

Prometheus
01-27-2007, 04:31 PM
I repeat my advice Glimmertwin... join a local Orthodox church (ROCOR... Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia [services in Slavonic]) or OCA (Orthodox Church in America [services in English]) both have lots of Slavic members and they always welcome inquirers. Or find a local Russian language group. I found one in my area through russian dot meetup dot com. I have greatly expanded my Slavic/FSU network this way.

Glimmertwin34
01-27-2007, 04:39 PM
Prometheus,

Yes, I agree with you and I think I will do this. If it were summer I would have no problem going to the Ukraine to hang out...but it is kind of hard to hang out in the cold! I have been to other former Soviet Countries and have enjoyed myself and the women there. If anyone would like to know..Bugaria is very good too!

Good advice and I will take it!

Jim

siberianhusky
01-28-2007, 01:35 AM
For the people who know me on this forum I want to ask you a question about filing a lawsuit. My name full name was used in one letter sent from Elena G. to another client who is apart of this forum. What I want to know do I have enough proof that UAL/CC broke any laws containing the Privacy Policy act or any breach of contract for disclosing my personal information? If any of you know a lawyer and can ask please do so as it would help me and if they need more info about this then don't hesitate to contact me asap!

Thanks

Siberian

the_doc
01-28-2007, 07:17 AM
Hi all,

I've read most of the posts here and it's hard to understand why any of you think the girls themselves are actually writing to you. No problem having translators do it, even responding to some of your questions. There are several keys to understanding that it's all a scam. One, the girls write to lots of guys at the same time and say romantic stuff to all of them. Two, when people go to meet the girls they don't even know who the guys are. Three, the same girls have been there for years (take blonde Daria P, for example) and are never engaged or married. What additional evidence do you need?

I have romantic letters from the following: Inna V. #4970; Natalya F.#7689; Svetlana S.#3964; Irina T.; #4988; Daria P.#4016; Daria P.#4986; Oksana K.#7073; Irina S.#7536 plus quite a few others.

Here's a recent letter

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR INNA BY SVITLANA
Hello ________!!!
How are you doing?
I have not heard from you for a while? and decided to write to you again.
I am doing fine, dear. That?s just I cannot get you out of my head. That is the biggest problem I have now!!!
because I find myself very attracted to you!
Kisses,
Your Inna (#4970)

I hardly have written to her.
===========================================
Another:

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR IRINA
BY SVETA
Hi dear!
I think of you...
I miss you...
Warmly,
Irina. (#4988)

Had written one letter to her.
===========================================
A first letter:
TRANSLATED FOR IRINA
Hi my Dear!! Thank you so much for your letter!! My dear I think that everything will be just perfect between us and we will make our relations to live:):)

story left out....

_______, I think it's a good chance for us to find true love we were looking for so let us do our best in order not to loose it.
Kisses to you,
Irishka:) (#7536)
===========================================

Anyway, I have tons of other examples including letters sent from one girl but translated and signed by another! Just ask and I'll dump the whole lot of them on here.

There are legit agencies out there but they are expensive. I know for a fact that A Russian Romance in Sochi is legit as I ****ed several of the girls from that agency several years ago after corresponding with them. Inna, the owner, is a bit obnoxious but they have real girls and you can exchange real letters and even meet them! In my opinion Russian girls look really nice (commonly less buxom than Ukrainian girls for some reason, obviously genetic) but are generally high maintenance, tempermental, and really aren't all that good in bed unless you are a necrophiliac. I had my first Russian girl in 1991 and it still feeds my ego to do well-dressed younger women. They're easy to meet in clubs or on the street over there, but it is best to rent an apartment as many hotels won't let you have "guests". In general, the "small-town" girls are easier than the "big-city" girls, because, as small-town girls everywhere, they are looking for a way out.

I had good luck at LuckyLovers.net as well. There are a ton of scammers, but lots of real chicks, and I met a great young (25) blonde with perky tits from Novosibirsk and we spent two weeks together traveling in Thailand and Cambodia.

Go and enjoy yourself, stay away from tours, don't smile on the street, and put your money in a plastic shopping bag as everyone carries them and no one expects there to be anything valuable in them.

As for UAladys, just continue to spank the monkey because that's all those girls are good for.

-the doc-

p.s. You might try Venezuela as it has great girls! I'm 56 and two years ago had no problem having all the 18-25 year-olds that I wanted there. Great ego boost and I even found a couple of virgins!!

carey
01-28-2007, 10:59 AM
I have just been reading what u have been saying about Ex Confidential Connection. I am the person that was scammed by Carey Tola Spencer, Bright Carey Spencer, Tola Falola Salvage with the help of Ayodeji Sunday and Funmilola Animasahun. i have lots of phone number that i was given by this person for people who would lie to you.

this is an email...

Hi
I must say that i'm glad and delighted to hear from you and i guess that i owe you an introduction.
I was born into a family of four but now three,which implies that my dad is dead,now left with my mom,I and brother ,which made up the family.I've lived all my life in georgia before the death of my dad some five years ago.
I moved to london after the death of my dad cos my mom is from UK.I'm into Art(decorations) and i've been working round the clock to make ends meet.Though i enjoy my work.But i still on the look out for greater challengings that lies ahead of me.
I do swimming,cycling,reading and watching movies for leisure and i'm such an adventureous lady.i do have fun and most especially, i love been the best i could be irrespective of the environment i found myself.
I'm looking for a vibrant relationship,i think i have to be factual about this,and i dont care where it may comes from.Though i have been involve in so many relationships in the past but i guess i have learnt my lessons which will help me.
I think that you have gone through my profile and with all that i have said about myself now,you are in a better frame of mind about the person you are going to be relating with in the next couple of days.
In the plight of this,I'll like us to be mailing ourselves everyday,cos i believe through that, we will always get to know each other better and will know the next point of call.
I guess you have known more about me now, It's now my turn to know yours.Where you are from,your full name and where you live.
I'll have to let you go now and i'll love to hear from you as son as possible.
Bye for now,
Bright

I will point out that some of the cheques i received did not come from Nigeria but London U.K. This person has friends in the U.K, South Africa, the U.S.A and Amsterdam. I have photos of a black person that was sending me the Photos of the russian young lady an i know this as i saw her on a web cam in Lagos Nigeria. if i could post the photos of the black lady i would.....

u have asked who is a scammer, i believe most Africians are.....

the_doc
01-28-2007, 02:52 PM
for those who don't believe that UAL is a scam, simply ask your girl(s) to video chat with you. If she gets your letters, reads and answers them then you will learn it when you ask her questions in your chat. As it costs next to nothing these days for a web cam there is no excuse for any agency not to have a setup!! Simply ask her when it will be convenient for her to chat live. Try it out and report the results here!

My bet, there will be lots of excuses...web cams don't work, too busy, etc

your pal
-the doc-

Ralf S.
01-29-2007, 12:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by the_doc

for those who don't believe that UAL is a scam, simply ask your girl(s) to video chat with you.
-the doc-


I think after the on-line kicking CC/UAL has received, I wouldn't be first in the queue to defend them but I have to repeat what I wrote elsewhere; I've seen all sorts, from one girl who was very reluctant to meet me - managing just 5 minutes despite being "desperate" to meet me after several months of correspondence, to another who spent several hours a day for a whole week with me. Plus everything in between.

I don't think there is a black and white answer to the CC scam. All I would say is that the MO seems to be branch-specific. The more dubious ladies seem to be from four main branches, so I'd avoid those like the plague. The others MAY have some mileage.

Having said that.. why take the risk when there are so many other agencies out there...?


Ralf S&gt;

No bullets for Chaingun

howard darby
01-29-2007, 03:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

Newduke,

Unfortunately you are correct. Unless there is a way to get this forum to supersede UA anytime there is an internet search, guys will still be uneducated and go to them.

Yes, we all know that CC or UA is running a huge scam. No women is going to write to "Frank N Beans" by his description. That is absolutely crazy. Yet, Sergi will not answer to how these fictitous people are getting letters.

How did Elena G find out about the postings here? Of course she does not exist...at least to how so many guys new of her. I am sure at one time CC lured her in by saying that they would take pictures of her for a possible modeling deal and she had to bring some of her own in.

I was dumb...got it...but never again...and if Serge thinks that I would be dumb enough to spend loads of money to travel there to get turned away...he is CRAZY!!! I am not old...39...in great shape and not ugly...I just like Slavic women...there is something about them that has always attracted me to them.

I think I will find out where the Russian or Ukranian women are hanging out around my area and go from there. Heck..a cup of coffee is a lot cheaper then one letter through UA!!!

Jim

JIM,
IF YOU LIVE CLOSE TO DALLAS THERE IS A RESTURANT CALL DELI NEWS WHERE A LOT OF THEM HANG OUT AND A PARTY ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND
HOWARD

Prometheus
01-29-2007, 03:25 PM
Howard, I heard that Dallas just got a traditional Russian banya on the north side. I'm going to check that out too. Thanks for the info. There are several "Deli News" listed online. One of them is at Campbell and Coit in Richardson. That can't be the one you are talking about, since it has the grumpiest babushka shop keeper of all.

Prometheus
01-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Doc,

You had me completely, until the part about a "couple of virgins" at the end. I have a bridge in Arizona you'll be interested in as well. ;)

the_doc
01-30-2007, 01:00 PM
Prometheus,

Actually, it is true.

-the doc-

Prometheus
01-30-2007, 01:32 PM
So is the bridge...

the_doc
01-30-2007, 01:48 PM
true enough!! Venezuela was great for girls. If you are in small towns you can have your pick as nearly all the girls want out or are at least glad for the small increases in the quality of life that being with a gringo can bring. There, it is quite normal for married men in their 40's and 50's to have a young girl of 18-25 on the side.

-the doc-

JohnnyTweezers
01-30-2007, 05:22 PM
I wanted to say thanks to all of the sound advice I have seen here. I wanted to share some email correspondence with everyone to return the favor! I wrote this email three days ago to UALadys:

'To whom it may concern,

I will make this short. I had contacted several ladies when this site was affiliated with the old owner and there was an increasing level of criticism that it was a scam to take money from honest folks who were truly trying to find someone special. I have an open mind, so I posed the question to the old owners with an opportunity to explain themselves. They never did. I posed the same question to the lady/translator I was communicating with and they never answered it either. Everything that happened around that time seemed to confirm the accusations, no direct answer to questions, never getting further than platonic and sometimes meaningless correspondence that I was paying for. The girls that wrote me were always striking and in the top 100 (the 'cash cow' accusation), and as soon as the business changed hands I never heard from the original women again, and have now been getting a whole different set of communications from women that I would call more realistic for a service of this type and my attributes. I am trying to make this short, I just got an email from what looks like a wonderful lady that I would like to correspond with, but I am very hesistant to spend one dime on a fantasy that will never be and would help line the pockets of some guy on the beach in Belize. I am sure you can see my point. I would like to pose this question to the new owner (and/or the new general manager, Thomas McKeveny), what assurances do I have that I will not get taken advantage of by the new company? I am serious about developing a possible relationship with one of the ladies on your service but I am not fond of throwing money down a bottomless hole with no end result. I look forward to your response. Chris'

I was borderline sarcastic, feeling I already knew the answer. Following is thier response which made it to me the next day. Too bad I didn't get this kind of service with the ladies! From Sergey Shkolnik:Kharkov &lt;members@ualadys.com&gt;:

Dear Chris

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

The Confidential Connections company has passed to a brand new owner.
The company who has a great experience in marriage business.
The new policy of the company is to solve all problems in the work
process, maximally rise the image of company and to provide the most
convenient and responsible services to the clients.
The changes are being made very fast. Our technical staff worked 24
hours a day to make necessary changes.
We apologise for the problems you have faced with the previous owner,
we will do our best to make you feel confident while using our sites. We
will strongly fight agains the scammaers and golddiggers, we will take
such ladies off the sites if they appear. We understand that the image
is everything!
You are a good client of our company, we appreciate this very much, and
we will be very glad to help you in the future also.
We wish you all the best!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



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C: His response is kinda vague, really doesn't get to the meat of what I asked about initially. Certainly doesn't make me want to run out and give them money. If anyone is still reading this, I have noticed several folks talk about going to visit these places and meet the ladies on thier own. That makes more sense to me. If you have more information please email me, I am not a seasoned traveler so any insights are appreciated. Thanks mucho grande! I would not condone giving UALadys one cent of your hard earned money in its current configuration. Pull the wool over your OWN eyes.

I wanted to say thanks to everyone here for the sound advice. Luckily I didn't send them very much money. I posed this email to the new UALadys contact information address:

'To whom it may concern,

I will make this short. I had contacted several ladies when this site was affiliated with the old owner and there was an increasing level of criticism that it was a scam to take money from honest folks who were truly trying to find someone special. I have an open mind, so I posed the question to the old owners with an opportunity to explain themselves. They never did. I posed the same question to the lady/translator I was communicating with and they never answered it either. Everything that happened around that time seemed to confirm the accusations, no direct answer to questions, never getting further than platonic and sometimes meaningless correspondence that I was paying for. The girls that wrote me were always striking and in the top 100 (the 'cash cow' accusation), and as soon as the business changed hands I never heard from the original women again, and have now been getting a whole different set of communications from women that I would call more realistic for a service of this type and my attributes. I am trying to make this short, I just got an email from what looks like a wonderful lady that I would like to correspond with, but I am very hesistant to spend one dime on a fantasy that will never be and would help line the pockets of some guy on the beach in Belize. I am sure you can see my point. I would like to pose this question to the new owner (and/or the new general manager, Thomas McKeveny), what assurances do I have that I will not get taken advantage of by the new company? I am serious about developing a possible relationship with one of the ladies on your service but I am not fond of throwing money down a bottomless hole with no end result. I look forward to your response. Chris'

C: And thier response which was the next day. Too bad I didn't get this sort of service with the ladies!

'Dear Chris

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

The Confidential Connections company has passed to a brand new owner.
The company who has a great experience in marriage business.
The new policy of the company is to solve all problems in the work
process, maximally rise the image of company and to provide the most
convenient and responsible services to the clients.
The changes are being made very fast. Our technical staff worked 24
hours a day to make necessary changes.
We apologise for the problems you have faced with the previous owner,
we will do our best to make you feel confident while using our sites. We
will strongly fight agains the scammaers and golddiggers, we will take
such ladies off the sites if they appear. We understand that the image
is everything!
You are a good client of our company, we appreciate this very much, and
we will be very glad to help you in the future also.
We wish you all the best!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



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C: They still did not really deal with the meat of the issue here. How many times do you tell someone you will do it, and never do it, before they catch on and call a scam for what it is? It took me 3 times. Good luck to everyone. I have seen some folks speak of taking trips and meeting these ladies outside of any service. That is the smartest thing I have heard. If anyone is still reading this I would like to hear your insights into this subject.

JohnnyTweezers
01-30-2007, 05:25 PM
Sorry about the double post. I am a new member and didn't think the first one made it through.............C

I wanted to say thanks to everyone here for the sound advice. Luckily I didn't send them very much money. I posed this email to the new UALadys contact information address:

'To whom it may concern,

I will make this short. I had contacted several ladies when this site was affiliated with the old owner and there was an increasing level of criticism that it was a scam to take money from honest folks who were truly trying to find someone special. I have an open mind, so I posed the question to the old owners with an opportunity to explain themselves. They never did. I posed the same question to the lady/translator I was communicating with and they never answered it either. Everything that happened around that time seemed to confirm the accusations, no direct answer to questions, never getting further than platonic and sometimes meaningless correspondence that I was paying for. The girls that wrote me were always striking and in the top 100 (the 'cash cow' accusation), and as soon as the business changed hands I never heard from the original women again, and have now been getting a whole different set of communications from women that I would call more realistic for a service of this type and my attributes. I am trying to make this short, I just got an email from what looks like a wonderful lady that I would like to correspond with, but I am very hesistant to spend one dime on a fantasy that will never be and would help line the pockets of some guy on the beach in Belize. I am sure you can see my point. I would like to pose this question to the new owner (and/or the new general manager, Thomas McKeveny), what assurances do I have that I will not get taken advantage of by the new company? I am serious about developing a possible relationship with one of the ladies on your service but I am not fond of throwing money down a bottomless hole with no end result. I look forward to your response. Chris'

C: And thier response which was the next day. Too bad I didn't get this sort of service with the ladies!

'Dear Chris

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

The Confidential Connections company has passed to a brand new owner.
The company who has a great experience in marriage business.
The new policy of the company is to solve all problems in the work
process, maximally rise the image of company and to provide the most
convenient and responsible services to the clients.
The changes are being made very fast. Our technical staff worked 24
hours a day to make necessary changes.
We apologise for the problems you have faced with the previous owner,
we will do our best to make you feel confident while using our sites. We
will strongly fight agains the scammaers and golddiggers, we will take
such ladies off the sites if they appear. We understand that the image
is everything!
You are a good client of our company, we appreciate this very much, and
we will be very glad to help you in the future also.
We wish you all the best!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



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C: They still did not really deal with the meat of the issue here. How many times do you tell someone you will do it, and never do it, before they catch on and call a scam for what it is? It took me 3 times. Good luck to everyone. I have seen some folks speak of taking trips and meeting these ladies outside of any service. That is the smartest thing I have heard. If anyone is still reading this I would like to hear your insights into this subject.

the_doc
01-30-2007, 05:45 PM
One of the main keys to recognizing this site as a scam, at least in large part, is that the same girls have been on it for years. Take Daria P or the Elenas, for example. If these girls were available and were looking, they are attractive enough to have found husbands and left the agency. Most agencies (other than those that just sell addresses) are proud of their engaged and married girls and mark them thus on their site and have a page or two of married couples.

UAladys has thousands of women and so should have lots of success stories...why don't they?

One thing I find strange is that several men on this list have commented that they were writing to one or more girls for a year or two! If a man doesn't head over there in 6 months or so after starting correspondence with a woman, he is being unfair to both her and himself. As only about 5% of corresponding men ever head over there at all, it is easy to see why women would give up and let agencies scam men. My advice...once you start communicating, get a ticket and head over there. Rent an apartment for a couple of weeks so that if the girl is not as advertised or not compatible, you aren't screwed. You can still wander around, meet lots of great women, and have a great time. Do be sure that you have talked to your woman several times on the phone BEFORE you head over, but preferably as early in the correspondence as possible. A video chat via Internet is also good.

your pal
-the doc-

GMAN
01-31-2007, 07:06 AM
After telling Daria P and Valushya and 2 others i am not interested in writing to them anymore they are still writing is it because they are not get many letters since the forum went up or is it because Valentines day is coming up.Another thing there is a guy on the web giving free dating tips he says dont give presents to a woman if you are not having sex with her and stay away from women with children.

gtearne

Ralf S.
01-31-2007, 07:53 AM
:D

Splendid advice! But quite often it's the presents that leads to the sex.. ;)

What's wrong with women with kids? If I was younger that'd be the default option but most women in my target age will have a sprog or two. Is it the slim chances of the father ever agreeing for them to leave the country should I be successful, or something else?

I've also noticed a drop-off in letters.. (shame really.. I kind of miss them! :D ) I have just one girl who doesn't seem to want to take "no" for an answer .. her persistence is quite cute really... [:I].

I'm fighting it dudes... but it's blinkin' hard! :)


Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

imported_uljoh
01-31-2007, 08:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

After telling Daria P and Valushya and 2 others i am not interested in writing to them anymore they are still writing is it because they are not get many letters since the forum went up or is it because Valentines day is coming up.Another thing there is a guy on the web giving free dating tips he says dont give presents to a woman if you are not having sex with her and stay away from women with children.

gtearne


Hi gtearne
Have you told Valyusha you know she corresponds to a dozen?
I did, after we had written 188 letter to each other.
Then she rapidly realized I wouldnt send her any new presents.
So guess what happened. [?]
uljoh

GMAN
01-31-2007, 10:17 AM
I did confront her she wrote back 2006/14/12 i did not answer now suddenly she wrote yesterday again this is what she said:
You have surprised me with the things you have told in your letter. I mean about top ladies or what ever it is called. I don?t know how I appeared in the top list. I don?t know what does it mean but I will ask in the agency about it and maybe I will demand to remove my profile from the top list if it is possible. If you have some doubts in me, I am very sorry that you don?t have trust in me but I don?t know how to prove you something. It is better to come and see me with your own eyes. I kiss with my eyes closed too. :))))
She is probably looking for a present for Valentines she wont get from me/



gtearne

helskar
01-31-2007, 10:56 AM
Hello everybody & particularly those who still believe they are genuinely unique...in Valushya's heart: That bird has two other profiles currently on display. One on SINGLE RUSSIAN WOMEN.COM as: VALENTINA # 38261 HERE YOU CAN FIND HER Email "valechka_best@ukr.net"... Less expensive & more direct than ever before...!!! She has still another profile on SCANNA: ID# 78012... AS you see she is not lacking flowers, chocolate, tenderness... She must be writing DAY & NIGHT to so many MEN... I hope this help you all...In your quest!!!!

Helskar
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

After telling Daria P and Valushya and 2 others i am not interested in writing to them anymore they are still writing is it because they are not get many letters since the forum went up or is it because Valentines day is coming up.Another thing there is a guy on the web giving free dating tips he says dont give presents to a woman if you are not having sex with her and stay away from women with children.

gtearne

imported_uljoh
01-31-2007, 11:14 AM
Hi gman & helskar,
I kew about scanna & single-russian-woman, I have also talked with her about that.
Its really no big deal about that; cause we are all probably members on other sites.
But !!! she never answers anything from those sites and she doesnt comment on it att all on UAL.
The email is visible on single-russian.
/ uljoh

imported_uljoh
01-31-2007, 11:28 AM
I forgot to tell, I have told Valyusha more than once about Top 100, so she knows about it.
Maybe she forgot

helskar
01-31-2007, 11:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by uljoh

I forgot to tell, I have told Valyusha more than once about Top 100, so she knows about it.
Maybe she forgot

The meaning of all that is : She is into some kind of "business" that has got nothing to do with real emotions...

imported_uljoh
01-31-2007, 02:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by helskar


quote:Originally posted by uljoh

I forgot to tell, I have told Valyusha more than once about Top 100, so she knows about it.
Maybe she forgot

The meaning of all that is : She is into some kind of "business" that has got nothing to do with real emotions...


Agree - 100%
Any these ladies show 0% emotions when you find out what its all about. This "Diana" gets ice cold. And they only continue with their next commission and some new guys, without raising their eyebrows.

These "Diana" - ladies were thrown out from the Agency after its became obvious whats been going on.
Some ladies also in CC were defenitely corresponding with a very small intention marrying some guy.

/ uljoh

ham
01-31-2007, 08:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Doc,

You had me completely, until the part about a "couple of virgins" at the end. I have a bridge in Arizona you'll be interested in as well. ;)


well, THE DOC probably embellished things a (thick) bit, but if you have (like he has ) the party/sex tourist mentality, a bit of cash, aren't disabled, some gift of the gab and truckloads of attention will surely get you a line of girls to bed longer than you can handle; sure, i'm not talking killer porn magazine cover stars, but assuredly many pretty girls, much prettier than you would at home.

BEWARE

I said lots of attention not only because of fraud, scam schemes and worse, but a person i know went playing the fortnight womanizer in CUBA & came home with SCABIA, a parasitic disease...watch out.

Prometheus
01-31-2007, 09:20 PM
The evolution of sexually transmitted infections in the Ukraine
G I Mavrov and G M Bondarenko
Institute of Dermatology and Venereology Academy of Medical Science of Ukraine, Kharkiv, Ukraine

The process of economic and political reforms in Ukraine has made the problem of sexually transmitted diseases more acute. The sexual revolution which took place in western countries in the 1960s reached Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union. People's ideas as to what is permitted in their sexual life and what is not have changed very quickly, lagging far behind the attitude to venereal diseases. Such emotions as shame, fear, fastidiousness, and blame prevail when people think of venereal diseases. Narrow views of this kind are, unfortunately, typical of some doctors in Ukraine. Efforts are required to facilitate education, condom use, and prevention of drug addiction. Unfortunately, the scale of these measures is insufficient. Control of STIs presupposes common efforts of various state institutions because it includes not only medical, but also legal aspects. For the past 10?15 years the epidemiology of STIs has considerably changed in Ukraine. This is may be connected with the following tendencies: A quantitative increase in the core (high risk) groups: prostitutes, drug addicts, tramps, vagrants, and refugees.

The aetiology of the main syndromes of STDs has changed. For example, urethritis and endocervicitis are mainly caused by chlamydia, and not by gonococci as was the case in the 1970s.

The spectrum of complications after STDs has substantially broadened (sterility, miscarriages, ectopic pregnancy, neonatal illnesses, reactive arthritis, neurological complications).

Sensitivity of infecting agents of bacterial and viral aetiology to antibiotics has decreased. Treatments that were considered to be effective not long ago are quickly becoming outdated.

the_doc
01-31-2007, 09:43 PM
Hell Prometheus, I'm not a sex party animal....it's just what else is one to do at night whilst traveling or working abroad? I could sit around and shoot the sheeet and get drunk with a bunch of Quebecois drillers or I can find me some company!!!

I urge everyone to use condoms, never mind what Bush says, or whether you like them or not.

True, many of those babes over there won't do much in bed because they're just used to having a boyfriend or husband (typically drunk) have their way with them and are trying to get it over fast without getting too much vodka slobber on their make-up. So it might be hard to get too excited about using condoms, but then have her use other means. But if you are gonna poke her, and you haven't paid for her blood test, USE ONE!!

Remember also that several generations often live together so they tend to be fairly restrained because they don't want their mother, grandmother, and little sister to hear them moan.

When you're in an area for several weeks or more, pay for your girlfriend to go to the clinic for birth control. They'll check her blood at that time for STD & HIV. That way you can escape the condom if you know they're only doing you. In the former USSR many chicks do not use birth control, and conswquently abortions are very very common, so if you pay likely she'll go.

your pal
-the doc-

ham
02-01-2007, 10:04 AM
quote: A quantitative increase in the core (high risk) groups: prostitutes, drug addicts, tramps, vagrants, and refugees.

The aetiology of the main syndromes of STDs has changed. For example, urethritis and endocervicitis are mainly caused by chlamydia, and not by gonococci as was the case in the 1970s.

The spectrum of complications after STDs has substantially broadened (sterility, miscarriages, ectopic pregnancy, neonatal illnesses, reactive arthritis, neurological complications).

Sensitivity of infecting agents of bacterial and viral aetiology to antibiotics has decreased. Treatments that were considered to be effective not long ago are quickly becoming outdated.


this might be true in the west, too.
the problem is...
WATCH OUT WHOM YOU GO WITH
I am in favor of relocation (instead of fortnight crusades ) and that is a reason, too.
If you land there from 8000km away and try to chat women up, you are more likely to do so in bars or other such places.
If you don't know russian, you'll be mostly tied with the worn out pool of those who can (as bad as they do) speak your language; in fact russian isn't like spanish and italian, when you can understand even if you don't know the other's language.
I don't have to be a genius to guess that this pool of girls who hang out waiting for a western man to snap his fingers, and who know his language, however superficially, have been in bed with so many men, hence increased STD risk.
Condoms are good but they aren't a 100% safety suit.
I had a friend who went there alone.
He is your "headache gray" kind of man (no looks, no wealth, no gab, no big job ), with a very minor walking disability and he is weird ( i mean he can suddenly flare up and get excited over nothing ).
The women he had written to stood him up or he discarded them, so guess what?
He ended up in bed with BOTH interpreters he had hired to visit 2 different cities.
I don't doubt his word as he was no bragging kind of person.
Is he the first...the last...hmmm i think rather mr. n+1.
Only extended stays allow one to "know the rules of the game" and to frame people correctly.
Going there & ending in bed with the first comer is worse than doing so in your back yard...and in the back yard you spare travelling & accomodation.
Plus i am kind of diffident person.
There are stories of westerners who went there, chatted some girl up in a bar or else, brought her to THEIR apartment, then she said something like "let's order a pizza" or whatever; or someone might have followed them.
Next, Barney from Oklahoma is mugged by fat Boris showing up at his door.

GMAN
02-02-2007, 04:02 AM
I see the Brazilian site has been closed for maintenance for a couple of days.I cannot access my photos for 2 days at the Ukrainian site what is happening ?

gtearne

imported_uljoh
02-02-2007, 05:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

I cannot access my photos for 2 days at the Ukrainian site what is happening ?

gtearne


The same goes for me. But for me its not a big problem as I will not insert any more pic or buy anything further on. How would that be possible after all whats happening.
I think any kind of clever man must find this forum after starting a correspondance on UAL.
So, how will the ladies receive letters in the future from guys, who are only a bit careful?

careerandjobcoach
02-02-2007, 01:44 PM
Hey Guys, Read my post in this forum captioned "MY RUSSIAN SWEETPIE UPDATE"...My Russian "sweetpie" just dumped me!!.....LOL.....[:p]

Prometheus
02-02-2007, 09:20 PM
PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR FRANK N BEANS!

Frank is the mythical 63 year old ualadys client, whose profile reads... "this is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

Who best fits that description on Groundhog Day? Why the 26 year old hottie, Nadezhda A. #1875, of course! She digs men who are 37 years her senior, and has the bikini photos online to prove it! It is awfully cold in Kharkov, but Nadezhda is warm thinking about Frank's wrinkly grandpa balls! Here's her pitch to the mythical man born before the D-Day Invasion in WWII.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR NADEZHDA

Hello, dear Frank J!

To find the right one, the only one for you,
you have to search and search...
but you will never be through.
You have to go through lots of paths,
but only the right path will do.
You have to go down many streets,
but there?s not many to go to.
You will dream many dreams,
but only one will come true.
You will love many people,
but will they love you?
You have to find the right one,
but until you do, just remember...
there?s only one that?s meant for you....

AND MAYBE IT`S ME....

I'm waiting for your letter...

My beat regards,

Nadezhda


Nadezhda is so good looking, she doesn't have to write in complete sentences, or even comprehensible prose; she just scats while men suffer cardiac arrythmia and frantically give their credit card numbers for unlimited correspondence credits!

Prometheus
02-02-2007, 10:17 PM
Dublin, I pulled NYS rap sheets on the "new owners." Came back positive for a 2nd degree murder conviction in the 80's. Parole completed. Be careful.

imported_uljoh
02-03-2007, 06:53 AM
Prometheus!
Maybe you have not read whats on the 1st Page on UAL`s website?
Its told how Ukrainian ladies look upon agedifference. So, I guess if we are younger than 45, we shouldnt even care about Ukrainian young ladies.

Here is what`s written:
"Ukrainian women get serious and mature earlier than women in the West - their life is harder, they have to start working at early age, and often a girl of 18-19 studies and works at the same time to pay for her studies and living. Ukrainian women are more interested in you as a person than they are your age and appearance! They look for the most important qualities such as honesty, reliability and sincerity. Give them that and you will be generously rewarded!

We wish you to find here the lady of your dreams and to be the one she was dreaming about and nothing matters when two loving hearts find each other."

I mean, dont they look really serious? Maybe even FRANK N BEANS has a big chance. Why begrudge him all the good?



quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR FRANK N BEANS!

Frank is the mythical 63 year old ualadys client, whose profile reads... "this is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

Who best fits that description on Groundhog Day? Why the 26 year old hottie, Nadezhda A. #1875, of course! She digs men who are 37 years her senior, and has the bikini photos online to prove it! It is awfully cold in Kharkov, but Nadezhda is warm thinking about Frank's wrinkly grandpa balls! Here's her pitch to the mythical man born before the D-Day Invasion in WWII.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR NADEZHDA

Hello, dear Frank J!

To find the right one, the only one for you,
you have to search and search...
but you will never be through.
You have to go through lots of paths,
but only the right path will do.
You have to go down many streets,
but there?s not many to go to.
You will dream many dreams,
but only one will come true.
You will love many people,
but will they love you?
You have to find the right one,
but until you do, just remember...
there?s only one that?s meant for you....

AND MAYBE IT`S ME....

I'm waiting for your letter...

My beat regards,

Nadezhda


Nadezhda is so good looking, she doesn't have to write in complete sentences, or even comprehensible prose; she just scats while men suffer cardiac arrythmia and frantically give their credit card numbers for unlimited correspondence credits!

ham
02-03-2007, 12:48 PM
quote:Ukrainian women are more interested in you as a person than they are your age and appearance! They look for the most important qualities

like what...?
It's not looks; it's not age, race, location or background... a 65yo mexican truck driver from Tocula is the same as a 48yo chinese optometrist from Taipei; what is it?
Considering (as advertised) they work 3 jobs to make ends meet, it has to be your wallet...

carey
02-03-2007, 01:03 PM
I am still reading about "Diana P" and i have told you, i am the person that was scammed by Bright Carey Spencer, Tola Carey Spencer, Tola Falola Salvage. She is not Russian, she is Nigerian. she is from Lagos Nigeria. Anyone who want photosof this person can email me at IAN_METCALFE41@YAHOO.CO.UK and i will send you the photos, the passport photos, the export papers, the hotel receipts,a photo of the hotel,phone numbers,photos of the person i saw on a web cam after i found out that she was black and a list of the names i was asked to send cheques too and they amounts..

blondepeter
02-03-2007, 02:45 PM
I still keep getting new ladies interested in me even though I spent almost no money with UA Ladys and I have been very critical of their service in my questions. But, have you noticed, the newest ladies and the ones I've been getting are complete mutts! Arf, arf! They seem to be having trouble attracting the young blood.

the_doc
02-03-2007, 02:46 PM
Carey,

OK great. I'm sorry for you but this is the forum for UALADYS, not Nigerian scams, so of course we are talking Diana P.

-the doc-

GMAN
02-03-2007, 03:19 PM
I see the owners of Ualadys are in Panama why there maybe our american members know why?Daria P keeps changing her photos she must have a lot of money.I replied to Valusha again i am not interested i will see if she gets the message.I see some of the girls do leave the agency wonder why they dont say they got married

gtearne

tot446
02-03-2007, 04:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by carey

I am still reading about "Diana P" and i have told you, i am the person that was scammed by Bright Carey Spencer, Tola Carey Spencer, Tola Falola Salvage. She is not Russian, she is Nigerian. she is from Lagos Nigeria. Anyone who want photosof this person can email me at IAN_METCALFE41@YAHOO.CO.UK and i will send you the photos, the passport photos, the export papers, the hotel receipts,a photo of the hotel,phone numbers,photos of the person i saw on a web cam after i found out that she was black and a list of the names i was asked to send cheques too and they amounts..


Your email don't work, and her name are Daria P.

carey
02-04-2007, 09:03 AM
yes you are still talking about Diana P. and i am the person that was scammed out of money by Miss Carey Tola Spencer along with others. The person that used her (Diana P.) photos. My email address is ian_metcalfe41@yahoo.co.uk try it again.....

carey
02-04-2007, 09:04 AM
or try this email address ianmetcalfe@hotmail.co.uk

Prometheus
02-04-2007, 08:43 PM
Hey, I'm all for the Geritol? crowd getting some. If Tony Randall could father his first child at age 77, why not Frank? Hell, I'm 18 years older than my Ukrainian lovely. My point is simply that "Frank's" profile says, "don't contact me unless you are a scam artist," and he gets a LOT of mail. I conclude that these UA "ladies" are not real, if they are real, they don't read the profile, and if the agency is sending correspondence to members who only want to hear from "scam artists" then they are just that, scam artists (the "lady" or the agency, your pick).

ham
02-04-2007, 10:50 PM
quote:My point is simply that "Frank's" profile says, "don't contact me unless you are a scam artist," and he gets a LOT of mail. I conclude that these UA "ladies" are not real, if they are real, they don't read the profile, and if the agency is sending correspondence to members who only want to hear from "scam artists" then they are just that, scam artists (the "lady" or the agency, your pick).

I say that most dating sites ( especially big junk networked ones ) are PURE F R A U D. They will hide behind small print saying that you authorize them ( for security or else reasons ) to carry on the "initial" or "some" part of your correspondence.
Of course the whole correspondence is remotely controlled and orchestrated by "friendly translators"; some stories even say these "providers" can go as far as hiring someone ( typically staff but lay people as well ) to act as your exotic girlfriend.
Not uncommon; most agencies route a % of the profits to girls, to keep them motivated; no news, either. Media reports have exposed philipino penpal centres where women earn a living that way in the 1970s!
Ever wondered why a recurring complaint from an increasing number of men states that all (seems) perfect until they land there; then suddenly the girl of their dreams ( whom they have written to regularly for months ) is unavailable or disappears, so Barney flew 8000km and spent a fortune in "tokens" just to land there and be introduced to girls the company casually herded in a dancing hall thanks to an ad promising free food and the presence of western men?

GMAN
02-05-2007, 03:37 AM
If it is all a scam then i might as well not bother looking further and give it up as a bad job there should be laws to control these agencies.

gtearne

ham
02-05-2007, 07:25 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

If it is all a scam then i might as well not bother looking further and give it up as a bad job there should be laws to control these agencies.

gtearne


do not trust me.
read things like this
www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=558
Then, given FSUWs are on average prettier than the average WWs, ask yourself how comes on that big junk dating sites nearly 50% of women enrolled between end 1996 and end 2003..
No guesswork...i queried THEIR OWN DATABASE.
No "angry envious loser" jealous because Pedro trapped some porn model half his age here.
How comes?
1996? Hell, that is almost 11 years many women have been on that junk network site!
Is that realistic in your view?
Is that possible in your view?
When i posted these findings on various forums, at times i got attacked by very angry people, who were upset about it.
What for?
And i bet if you write these women who have been sitting there for over a decade, they will fall in love with you overnight...or is it a set-up to sell addresses, correspondence "tokens" etc?
Hell, there are a few cases of reports showing that when men bothered to hire investigators, found out their FSUW had moved to another city/gotten married/DIED years earlier!
I remember one letter a man posted: the woman who was supposed to be his dream mate was married and had a 3yo son!

GMAN
02-05-2007, 07:42 AM
So are there any genuine agencies?

gtearne

carey
02-05-2007, 08:53 AM
well i found my scammer Bright Carey Spencer on true.com and i know there are many Nigerian scammers on a lot of other dating sites. so if i was u i would not trust any of them or at least if anyone of the people you meet on them asks for money just move on.

ham
02-05-2007, 10:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

So are there any genuine agencies?

gtearne


I won't name names because i'm selling nothing here, but in my experience i'd steer clear of BIG JUNK NETWORKED dating agencies, featuring tens of thousands of women over five time zones.
Better luck awaits you with small, mom&pop kind of agencies; these are not your Vegas kind of WWW money machine & might not offer the paraphenalia big sites do, EG tours, socials etc.
Their women sure as hell will not be as many and not nearly as attractive as those on bigger sites.
Not "ugly", but not some miss nude pageant, either; decent pretty girls next door.
I had a favourable experience with a dating dealer with a few 100's women from the same neighborhood.
No wonder...most of those teen porn star wannabees' profiles are baited ads or bought/stolen pictures from women who have no interest WHATSOEVER in marrying older, middle class foreigners.
Small agencies are often amateurish and don't offer domestic customer support.
If you want some crooked used car salesman to pitch a sale to you for three hours, expect to pay for his time...by the minute.
The dating dealer i mentioned could arrange only an handful of marriages in over ten years.
Big junk sites claim to have arranged thousands, but how would you know?

Also, the dating dealer i mentioned, whom over the years i assume to be honest, said he wanted to retreat from the dating business, because mostly the bubble had burst. He said he used to employ FIVE full time translators at his peek, then in 2004 he was down to a couple.
He said what a realist might say:
* that WMs rarely travel to the FSU
* that cross-cultural relationships are difficult and while many buy the concept at face value, then cannot follow through.
* that often women move on with their lives, meet someone locally etc

But let's discard his minute points, for he might be just a lazy bum, right?
Let's just say that the FSU MOB dating business' decline is steady...increased awareness of scams, legal restrictions such as US IMBRA, whatever.
In the 1970s we all were supposed to get an hot philipino/asian wife; in the 1980s a hot south american/latino wife...yeah, right.
Why do big junk dating sites seem to prosper?
Mostly because theirs is a smoke screen selling unverified addresses, displaying fake or outdated profiles and booking tours and socials.

licencetothrill
02-07-2007, 02:49 AM
Well guys this is my first post here...and it's from a little internet cafe in a smallish south-eastern Ukrainian city at 5 in the morning. Three reasons for the time of night....1) I'm just gob-smacked at what i've been reading here on this and the CC site before it and could'nt stop 'til the end, 2) It got late and I decided to stay here until daylight before heading back to the hotel for safety reasons, 3) My date for last evening flaked out on me 'for work reasons' but see you tomorrow 'tomorrow is my weekend'..Hmmmm

Now I have been corresponding with some women mentioned here and some that have not from several different branches. (the chick I met here is not from CC/UAL) I was very busy over the past month and noticed the shutdown and changes but too busy to really wonder why.

I am an independent traveller...and never intended to go with the clearly bullstrip ripoff CC silver/gold/platinum plans....what a take they are...the scare tactics and rubbish they write on their site is just shameless. I was content to fork out $50 to meet a correspondent who seemed genuine...until now, that is.

I notice that the overwhelming consensus of the site is that UAL is a scam organization. From the evidence presented, I could not agree more.

But I note that of all members here, only Ralf (maybe another one but i forget..sorry) has actually been to Ukraine and used CC's services. Now he has a balanced view..that some women are professional daters etc, but some others are genuine. Also, in his experience, the degree of scamming varies from branch to branch.

Many of you planned trips here soon, in late February or March..but may have decided to cancel, or at least come up with a plan B. To my knowledge, I am the only guy who has just read all this about CC/UAL and who is actually IN Ukraine right at the start of my adventure...I have not yet met a CC woman.

So I feel both shocked..as to the degree of scamming...but also forearmed with priceless knowledge now. I am not a complete dumbell, I always figured that some of these women, or translators or branches would try it on...but it is sobering to see other guys publish the flowery sweet letters that you yourself got not so long ago.

It is too late for me to reconsider my trip...Thankfully, I have got contacts from another site...but it is also expensive and problematic. I am not totally hopeless and hope I can also pull a couple of babes from bars and discos.. at least I will have fun trying.

Now I will focus my attention on my correspondents who have not been mentioned here and who did not send up any red flags. I am one who does not believe in corresponding only with one or two; it is a long way to come to be blown out of the water in one or two days. I am not phased by women writing to many(within reason) men or cutting and pasting; so long as their intentions are genuine...to meet the right guy eventually. But it is clearcut that many are making a nice living from their arrangement with CC and have no genuine intentions. Merely 'licencing' their pics for a cut, and the staff do the rest. So, I have written to quite a few and may see quite a few also..just depends on what happens.

Anyway, I will take pleasure in informing the forum of my experiences..good and bad as it unfolds. But, at least early on, I will be coy and not too specific as brother Sergey is reading and may put 2 and 2 together. I don't want that to muddy the waters. I think it is important if we can try and establish if there really are genuine women on the site. They may be completely unaware of the tactics of the organization they have entrusted their futures to or the activities of their avaricious sisters.

Should any one have the names of any 'real' Ukranian women, or websites they might want to share with a man on the ground...I will be most happy to here from you and correspond privately.

imported_uljoh
02-07-2007, 05:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by licencetothrill

Well guys this is my first post here...
.....Should any one have the names of any 'real' Ukranian women, or websites they might want to share with a man on the ground...I will be most happy to here from you and correspond privately.


Hi,
I could give you info from my trip last summer to Kiev.
I had contact with an Agency, "BeHappyAgency" (the local office in Kiev) and even with the owner of it - Nadya. She was very nice and helpful. Of course they want you to spend money, but only use your common sense and pick some lady you want to meet. Take your time for it.
Before I got there I received this info from BeHappy Agency, the main office in Tver, Russia. Ive been there. Use the info if you want.
The message:
Dear ---!
Thank you for your letter!
We will be glad to help you and give the contact information of
the agency ---- id 16--- and ---- id 16--- are assigned to.
Hope this information will be helpful.
Kiev
Bolshaya Zhitomirskaya Str., 8B, moffice 6
phone number 380 (44) 5617248
another number 380 (44) 3326949
Enjoy your staying in Kiev!
Let us know if we can do anything else for you.
Please feel free to ask any questions.
Best regards,
Ann Gaydukova.
------------------------&lt; end

Best regards / uljoh

(give me your email and I can tell you more)

Glimmertwin34
02-07-2007, 01:44 PM
HEY Guys!

I just got this from the UA management team:

We see, that you still don't recieve answers from our ladies Daria Pavlenko #4016
for your mails with the following subjects: Re: Happy new year!
from date: 2007-01-18 07:58:08

We are sorry about this situation and our billing office has credited your personal account +1 email credit now. Now you have 6 email credit(s).
You can use it for writing mail to ladies from our agency on website

The reason for email credit return is: Sorry, this Lady said that she is not interested in correspondence with you any more. She said that she has found the person she is interested in and decided to stop her correspondance with you. Thank you for your attention.

It seems funny that her pictures have been updated and she is still on the site when she has found her match!

More of the same from UA!
Jim

Prometheus
02-08-2007, 01:43 AM
Another scam. I created more "do not reply to me unless you are a scammer profiles." Theodore has a photo of a very ancient Native American posted.

Theodore S. #396158
Age 72 years old
Birth Date: 1934 February 27

Height:167 cm Weight: 77 kg
Eyes: Grey Glasses (lens): Yes
Hair: Grey

Children: Yes, but not living at home

Country: USA City: Chicago Zip: 0
Race: Native American Religion: Other

Education: Unspecified
Employment/Career: Waste Management

Smoke: Smoke Drink: Drink all the time

My hobbies:
...

About myself:
[This is a quote from a notorious appellate decision] The controlling factor to be determined is presented by appellant's first question posed in the following language: 1. 'Does the one specific crime definitely defined and limited by Section 7567, C.G.L.-1927; 3534 G.S. (1906) 5424 R.G.S.-1920; Ch. 1637, Sub. Ch. 8, Acts 1868, Sec. 17, comprehend or include the action of a 76 year old, aged Indian War Veteran, feeble physically and mentally, in, after having met the two girls . . . who solicited him, went to his residence and there they both get on the bed, pull up their dresses and drop down their panties, when he in turn on his back in the same bed allowed them to diddle with his rag like penis, unerectable, lifeless and useless except to connect the bladder with the outside world for more than six years since the death of his wife, utterly incapable of either penetration or emission, and wad it like a rag into their mouths . . . It is sufficient to say here, however, that all unnatural forms and methods of coitus have proven themselves detrimental to both health and morals. This is a test. Do not write me unless you are a scam artist.

Of course the ladies of CC/UAL love men who drink all the time and who post pornographic appellate decisions...

--------------------------


From: Olga B. #1783
To: Theodore S. #396158
Date: 03 February 2007 17:07:02

Subject: I would be glad to hear from you....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR OLGA

Hello, dear Theodore S!

Let me introduce myself.

My name is Olga, I live in Kharkov, work as a bookkeeper.

Although my job is about digits and papers, but I am romantic in my heart. I am fond of travelling, especially to the seaside and mountains. Also, enjoy going to theatre in my spare time (I have not so much).

I like my home. Like they say, my house is my fortress. I like cleanliness and coziness.

And I like when there are many flowers in the house.

If you find this message interesting, I would be glad to hear from you, and feel free to ask questions.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Sincerely,

Olga

Of course, Olga has also written to Frank N Beans, another alter ego who only wants to hear from scam artists...

From: Olga B. #1783
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 30 January 2007 16:46:18

Subject: I would be glad to hear from you....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR OLGA

Hello, dear Frank J!

Let me introduce myself.

My name is Olga, I live in Kharkov, work as a bookkeeper.

Although my job is about digits and papers, but I am romantic in my heart. I am fond of travelling, especially to the seaside and mountains. Also, enjoy going to theatre in my spare time (I have not so much).

I like my home. Like they say, my house is my fortress. I like cleanliness and coziness.

And I like when there are many flowers in the house.

If you find this message interesting, I would be glad to hear from you, and feel free to ask questions.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Sincerely,

Olga

Now there is nothing wrong with sending a form introduction letter to more than one man. What is wrong is that she wrote to TWO men who said, "I only want to hear from scam artists," and said, "Looking forward to hearing from you."

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM. . .

imported_uljoh
02-08-2007, 10:36 AM
Have anyone got a letter looking like this?
I got it today 2007-02-07

The letter:

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR -----.

The wind is blowing on my mind,
It?s crying, screaming hole the night,
I?m seeing my tears on the check,
I?m feeling bad, I?m tired, sick.
I dream about you and me,
I want to be with you and see
How wonderful is our life,
I look at clock ? about five.
Oh, Gods, please, stop this loudly cry,
I want to sleep, I?m trying? try?
I can?t live, It?s very hard,
Because I have a lonely heart.
----------&lt;

You know. I have come to a state I think its almost useless to answer any letter. Even if I had before. This is from a lady in 24 yo. Very pretty, though.

Prometheus
02-08-2007, 02:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by uljoh
You know. I have come to a state I think its almost useless to answer any letter. Even if I had before. This is from a lady in 24 yo. Very pretty, though.




It's not a letter Uljoh, it is undoubtedly the lyrics to a song. Have you ever written a stranger...

Oh, Gods, please, stop this loudly cry,
I want to sleep, I?m trying? try?
I can?t live, It?s very hard,
Because I have a lonely heart.

Of course not. I guarantee the translator who hit "send" on this one was laughing her ass off. I think they are so bored with the job that they keep pushing the envelope. I have had letters recently that were incomplete sentences, bad grammer, incomprehensible prose. An ape could throw darts at the newspaper and do better than this.

Blue Horseshoe
02-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Hi everyone! It's my first post here, after having found this thread from an internet search of 'ualadys' & 'cc.

There seems to be a lively debate about scams particularly in relation to 'ualadys', and since I visited the Ukraine recently and walked into one of their offices seeking a date with a lady I'd corresponded with, and spent a lot of time with her, I have to tell you that a lot of what you say here can seem true, and yet is completely untrue, all at the same time.

I know it's not popular to say this, but I found the services offered by 'ualadys' as very professional. It was expensive, but I was taken care of quite well by them. I'd go as far as to say it was an amazing experience, and would certainly use their services again.

I think where a lot of guys on here are going wrong, is by writing just letters and somehow expecting undying love & loyalty from a woman they've never met. My experience of this is that I'd written to a woman for about a year, and yet when we met, it was like I didn't know her, she was a total stranger, even though we'd shared jokes and a lot of laughter in letters. Occasionally I would bring up some of the things we'd talked about, through the interpreter, and alternately so would she, comfirming that the letters were written by HER....! And after a week or so we began to warm to each other and now I'm back we're still writing and planning to meet again soon.

Slavic women are WONDERFUL with really strong family values, not like in the west. A guy I met out there, not connected with ualadys, told me not to expect the women in the Ukraine to be anything like women in England or America, he told me you have to 'win her', you have to be a 'man' for her, in other words not weak.

Something else I want to say: so, ok a woman is writing to a lot of men, but statistically how many men are ever going to make the journey to see them? I've read it's something like 1 in every 200 men, that being the case, it's obvious she's going to write to as many men as she can.

Remember, she's writing to a foreign man because she wants to get out of the Ukraine & live a more prosperous life elsewhere, not just to write to a man who wants to keep her captive through emails, no woman ANYWHERE would put up with that for very long, am I right????

Also, so what if she's copying and pasting letters to some extent? There's only so much at any one time to write about, and yeah sure so she mixes a few letters up occasionally and you get similar/same letters now and then, is it THAT crucial?

Another complete myth that I've read on here is this issue of English being spoken everywhere. Can I just tell you, that right at the beginning at the arrivals hall in Kiev, getting someone to understand me when I was asking for directions for the domestic flights termainal was absolutely HOPELESS. Nobody speaks English, and when you fly off to the Crimea, where I went, I can tell you English is rarely spoken. The guy who talked about pulling women in night clubs on here has no idea! YOu can't pull if they don't speak English and you don't speak Russian.

I just want to say again, ualadys DOES provide a very professional service, the drivers & interpreters are very professional, but expensive, but as far as I'm concerned you get what you pay for. If you don't like your date, make sure you see a few more ladies and keep an open mind, you might like someone you hadn't thought of seeing or seen before through the site.

Forget about just writing letters, aim to get yourself over there. Ever heard the saying 'actions speak louder than words'? It's true, experiencing meeting people in the Ukraine, the representatives of ualadys and others will really make you think differently. I don't doubt there are scammers out there operating through ALL the dating agencies out there, but I think we all know it when we see it. We don't 'check-in a lifetime of common sense when we board the plane, right?

Good luck to everyone seeking a bride out there, and don't dismiss 'ualadys' as a 'scam' agency, try them, you'll find it's not true.

imported_uljoh
02-09-2007, 09:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Blue Horseshoe

Hi everyone! It's my first post here, after having found this thread from an internet search of 'ualadys' & 'cc.

There seems to be a lively debate about scams particularly in relation to 'ualadys', and since I visited the Ukraine recently and walked into one of their offices seeking a date with a lady I'd corresponded with, and spent a lot of time with her, I have to tell you that a lot of what you say here can seem true, and yet is completely untrue, all at the same time.

I know it's not popular to say this, but
I just want to say again, ualadys DOES provide a very professional service, the drivers & interpreters are very professional, but expensive, but as far as I'm concerned you get what you pay for. If you don't like your date, make sure you see a few more ladies and keep an open mind, you might like someone you hadn't thought of seeing or seen before through the site.

Forget about just writing letters, aim to get yourself over there. Ever heard the saying 'actions speak louder than words'?
Good luck to everyone seeking a bride out there, and don't dismiss 'ualadys' as a 'scam' agency, try them, you'll find it's not true.


Hi Blue Horseshoe,
It s true all what you say. But the problem is several of us here has found out some ladies at the so called "Top 100" werent even interested in meeting a guy. They were only after your money. They used smart methods to make you believe they were deeply in love with you.
But the only purpose with everything was to make you buy, "big teddy bears", "a very expensive visit at some spaa", expencive flowers, expencive choclate" and so on. How much they got themselves from it, we dont know.
When it came to visit them, there was a quite different sound in their letters. They simply hadnt no interest in meeting you.
Maybe some ladies have. But too many dont.

helskar
02-09-2007, 09:59 PM
Hello BlueHorseshoe, I do find what you wrote: very very BIZARRRE...STRANGE...! quote]Originally posted by Blue Horseshoe

Hi everyone! It's my first post here, after having found this thread from an internet search of 'ualadys' & 'cc.

There seems to be a lively debate about scams particularly in relation to 'ualadys', and since I visited the Ukraine recently and walked into one of their offices seeking a date with a lady I'd corresponded with, and spent a lot of time with her, I have to tell you that a lot of what you say here can seem true, and yet is completely untrue, all at the same time.

I know it's not popular to say this, but I found the services offered by 'ualadys' as very professional. It was expensive, but I was taken care of quite well by them. I'd go as far as to say it was an amazing experience, and would certainly use their services again.

I think where a lot of guys on here are going wrong, is by writing just letters and somehow expecting undying love & loyalty from a woman they've never met. My experience of this is that I'd written to a woman for about a year, and yet when we met, it was like I didn't know her, she was a total stranger, even though we'd shared jokes and a lot of laughter in letters. Occasionally I would bring up some of the things we'd talked about, through the interpreter, and alternately so would she, comfirming that the letters were written by HER....! And after a week or so we began to warm to each other and now I'm back we're still writing and planning to meet again soon.

Slavic women are WONDERFUL with really strong family values, not like in the west. A guy I met out there, not connected with ualadys, told me not to expect the women in the Ukraine to be anything like women in England or America, he told me you have to 'win her', you have to be a 'man' for her, in other words not weak.

Something else I want to say: so, ok a woman is writing to a lot of men, but statistically how many men are ever going to make the journey to see them? I've read it's something like 1 in every 200 men, that being the case, it's obvious she's going to write to as many men as she can.

Remember, she's writing to a foreign man because she wants to get out of the Ukraine & live a more prosperous life elsewhere, not just to write to a man who wants to keep her captive through emails, no woman ANYWHERE would put up with that for very long, am I right????

Also, so what if she's copying and pasting letters to some extent? There's only so much at any one time to write about, and yeah sure so she mixes a few letters up occasionally and you get similar/same letters now and then, is it THAT crucial?

Another complete myth that I've read on here is this issue of English being spoken everywhere. Can I just tell you, that right at the beginning at the arrivals hall in Kiev, getting someone to understand me when I was asking for directions for the domestic flights termainal was absolutely HOPELESS. Nobody speaks English, and when you fly off to the Crimea, where I went, I can tell you English is rarely spoken. The guy who talked about pulling women in night clubs on here has no idea! YOu can't pull if they don't speak English and you don't speak Russian.

I just want to say again, ualadys DOES provide a very professional service, the drivers & interpreters are very professional, but expensive, but as far as I'm concerned you get what you pay for. If you don't like your date, make sure you see a few more ladies and keep an open mind, you might like someone you hadn't thought of seeing or seen before through the site.

Forget about just writing letters, aim to get yourself over there. Ever heard the saying 'actions speak louder than words'? It's true, experiencing meeting people in the Ukraine, the representatives of ualadys and others will really make you think differently. I don't doubt there are scammers out there operating through ALL the dating agencies out there, but I think we all know it when we see it. We don't 'check-in a lifetime of common sense when we board the plane, right?

Good luck to everyone seeking a bride out there, and don't dismiss 'ualadys' as a 'scam' agency, try them, you'll find it's not true.
[/quote]

Ralf S.
02-10-2007, 10:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by licencetothrill

Well guys this is my first post here...and it's from a little internet cafe in a smallish south-eastern Ukrainian city at 5 in the morning. Three reasons for the time of night....1) I'm just gob-smacked at what i've been reading here on this and the CC site before it and could'nt stop 'til the end, 2) It got late and I decided to stay here until daylight before heading back to the hotel for safety reasons, 3) My date for last evening flaked out on me 'for work reasons' but see you tomorrow 'tomorrow is my weekend'..Hmmmm

Now I have been corresponding with some women mentioned here and some that have not from several different branches. (the chick I met here is not from CC/UAL) I was very busy over the past month and noticed the shutdown and changes but too busy to really wonder why.

I am an independent traveller...and never intended to go with the clearly bullstrip ripoff CC silver/gold/platinum plans....what a take they are...the scare tactics and rubbish they write on their site is just shameless. I was content to fork out $50 to meet a correspondent who seemed genuine...until now, that is.

I notice that the overwhelming consensus of the site is that UAL is a scam organization. From the evidence presented, I could not agree more.

But I note that of all members here, only Ralf (maybe another one but i forget..sorry) has actually been to Ukraine and used CC's services. Now he has a balanced view..that some women are professional daters etc, but some others are genuine. Also, in his experience, the degree of scamming varies from branch to branch.

Many of you planned trips here soon, in late February or March..but may have decided to cancel, or at least come up with a plan B. To my knowledge, I am the only guy who has just read all this about CC/UAL and who is actually IN Ukraine right at the start of my adventure...I have not yet met a CC woman.

So I feel both shocked..as to the degree of scamming...but also forearmed with priceless knowledge now. I am not a complete dumbell, I always figured that some of these women, or translators or branches would try it on...but it is sobering to see other guys publish the flowery sweet letters that you yourself got not so long ago.

It is too late for me to reconsider my trip...Thankfully, I have got contacts from another site...but it is also expensive and problematic. I am not totally hopeless and hope I can also pull a couple of babes from bars and discos.. at least I will have fun trying.

Now I will focus my attention on my correspondents who have not been mentioned here and who did not send up any red flags. I am one who does not believe in corresponding only with one or two; it is a long way to come to be blown out of the water in one or two days. I am not phased by women writing to many(within reason) men or cutting and pasting; so long as their intentions are genuine...to meet the right guy eventually. But it is clearcut that many are making a nice living from their arrangement with CC and have no genuine intentions. Merely 'licencing' their pics for a cut, and the staff do the rest. So, I have written to quite a few and may see quite a few also..just depends on what happens.

Anyway, I will take pleasure in informing the forum of my experiences..good and bad as it unfolds. But, at least early on, I will be coy and not too specific as brother Sergey is reading and may put 2 and 2 together. I don't want that to muddy the waters. I think it is important if we can try and establish if there really are genuine women on the site. They may be completely unaware of the tactics of the organization they have entrusted their futures to or the activities of their avaricious sisters.

Should any one have the names of any 'real' Ukranian women, or websites they might want to share with a man on the ground...I will be most happy to here from you and correspond privately.


No bullets for Chaingun

Blue Horseshoe
02-11-2007, 01:14 PM
Hi Again. It's been a couple of days since I posted what I did, and I thought I'd better drop in again and just take a look at what I wrote, and check any comments/queries raised.

First of all, I can't see anything amiss about what I said, and I stand by what I said 100%.

Thanks for the comments from the two guys who posted replies, the first guy, Yeah sure, I get what you mean, thanks for the clarification. As for the other reply? Well, obviously, you're entitled to your opinion.

Pursuing 'the truth' can sometimes be very subjective, for instance your truth and mine may differ, and I suppose it's all about what we choose to accept as correct, in the end. I can certainly follow what's been said on here, and I take it on board what people have said, don't be mistaken about that.

Thanks for reading what I had to say, and as I think I mentioned the first time around, good luck to all concerned.

dijablue
02-12-2007, 02:31 AM
Hi Guys,
Well this is my first post. I have been a member of CC/Ua ladies for 12months. Have wrote 62 emails to one lady #7548, (plus others) only for her to leave CC when it changed names without any goodbye or explaination. Was told she moved to moscow and will contact you herself. I don't think so. Her photo is still being used by the site for promotional purposes. CC/ UA Ladies won't even give me the address of their branch office in Simferopol!! Does anybody know this please?? They wanted me to pay $100 for intro before they would even give out their branch office address, let alone contact details of their ladies. The site is a rip off, but you would not mind if it was real!! Now, I am trying to find more info about the agency and branches.

Dave

Ralf S.
02-13-2007, 07:28 PM
Yes.. I "lost" a girl from Lutsk without any explanation.. after I'd been reading this forum so I wasn't completely surprised, frankly.

Simferopol seems to be one of the more crudely run branches from what I've experienced It's feeble that they won't even give you the office address! These fellas are on drugs or something!

If you DO find the office, burn it down! [}:)][}:)]

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

imported_admin
02-13-2007, 08:38 PM
Spam from them again with subject admin, Valentines Day!!:)

"...Donetsk branch will be closed
We are sorry to inform you that the Donetsk branch will be closed. We hope this closing will not be of a bad consequence to your relations.

The branch did not fulfill the standards and quality of UALADYS.COM policy. This site will no longer be affiliated with the branch in Donetsk .

If you have any questions or concerns about this branch closure, please send an e-mail to our support group.

Best regards,

The Management

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imported_uljoh
02-13-2007, 10:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by admin

Spam from them again with subject admin, Valentines Day!!:)
"...Donetsk branch will be closed
We are sorry to inform you that the Donetsk branch will be closed. We hope this closing will not be of a bad consequence to your relations.
The branch did not fulfill the standards and quality of UALADYS.COM policy. This site will no longer be affiliated with the branch in Donetsk .
If you have any questions or concerns about this branch closure, please send an e-mail to our support group.
Best regards,
The Management
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This is very sad, because there are 66 innocent ladies to be found there!!! As it seems.
I dont care about Valentine Day - But why announce this this special day?

These are the innocent ladies, who cant get in tough with her second half after this.- - - - - - - - &gt;
Natalia P. #6562
Darja I. #6563
Elizaveta S. #6534
Elena S. #6560
Alina D. #6512
Svetlana I. #6518
Tatyana A. #6503
Inna S. #6513
Anna U. #6520
Tatyana H. #6542
Oksana G. #6561
Irina L. #6504
Elizaveta L. #6516
Anna B. #6535
Elena S. #6549
Olga K. #6569
Natasha P. #6509
Ekaterina E. #6529
Anna B. #6526
Anna K. #6507
Tatyana S. #6552
Victoriya P. #6557
Irina M. #6558
Ekaterina N. #6568
Anna S. #6502
Elena B. #6530
Emma C. #6510
Katya A. #6525
Tatyana B. #6555
Veronika R. #6501
Julia N. #6524
Olga G. #6528
Vitalina D. #6505
Nadejda Z. #6551
Aleksandra E. #6567
Ludmila H. #6523
Liliay K. #6506
Julia A. #6538
Elena D. #6536
Anna L. #6515
Elena I. #6522
Julia S. #6532
Marina Y. #6527
Liliya C. #6547
Inna H. #6533
Tamara M. #6517
Lilia K. #6531
Kateryna A. #6556
Oksana O. #6546
Elena F. #6554
Svetlana B. #6566
Tatyana S. #6550
Eugeniya R. #6553
Elena K. #6564
Elena O. #6559
Tatyana L. #6565
Elena M. #6537
Anna B. #6539
Natalya C. #6521
Elena K. #6540
Natali S. #6544
Natalia B. #6548
Angelika B. #6508
Oksana D. #6541
Ekaterina P. #6545

dijablue
02-15-2007, 01:13 AM
Hi,
I posted before about "losing" a lady. thought i should add some more info about the credibility of the ladies. I was to visit Ukraine last December to visit two ladies. One lady # 4287 said she was too busy. I had been in contact with her since june 06. The other said she would be in moscow #7548. When I asked Valyusha 4287 about leaving her country to be with the man she loved, she had not given it thought. she had no intentions of leaving her country, but then came back saying she would find it hard. I said to her "when i come to meet you, what are your plans for us after i go home?" her answer, keep corresponding. Ask your lady how difficult will she find leaving her country? I have written about 25 letters to #4287 and 62 to #7548 plus others. I cannot say that i have come across an honest one yet.

imported_uljoh
02-15-2007, 05:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by dijablue

Hi,
One lady # 4287 said she was too busy. I had been in contact with her since june 06.

Dont feel "left out", cause Ive been involved in totally 200 letter with her.

Prometheus
02-15-2007, 05:41 PM
Frank gets a Valentine.

Frank N Beans is our imaginary 63 year old friend who asks that "do not write me unless you are a scam artist."

On hearts and flowers day, he got a lovely letter from Olesya B. #4941, a teacher 31 years his junior, who ONLY WANTS TO GIVE HIM JOY.

From: Olesya B. #4941
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 14 February 2007 18:41:02

Subject: I want to give you joy?.

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Hello Frank!

I do not think that communication with me will make you re-estimate such virtues like friendship, dignity, love and sympathy. I require understanding only. My desire is to create a multi-colored world around me. I want to feel myself calm and comfortable in this world. I want to feel myself safe and confident, to rejoice myself and to be able to rejoice you in return.

I want to share my world with you, and show how beautiful a sunny morning is and how melodically is a song of rain. I am sure that if one passionately wants smth his dreams will come true. My dream is to talk to you and know you better.

If I succeeded and burnt a sparkle of interest in you I will be very glad to receive your letter.

Sincerely,

Olesya.

I want to give you joy?.



If she succeeded and "burnt his sparkle," she'll next drain his bank account for cut and paste letters sent to dozens of other men as well, I'll bet....

Prometheus
02-15-2007, 06:22 PM
Who loves a 77 year old "waste management specialist" who "drinks all the time" and asks "do not write me unless you are a scammer?" Alyona G. #1837, that's who!

Theodore is an imaginary Native American who lives in Chicago. His profile says he can't get a hard on, but he enjoys oral. It also says, "this is a test, do not write me unless you are a scammer."

Does that bother 38 year old Alyona? OF COURSE NOT!

Subject:
From: Alyona G. #1837
To: Theodore S. #396158
Date: 11 February 2007 17:17:54

Subject: I want to find a man who would understand me without words...Maybe it`s you?!!!!


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THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ALYONA.

Hello Theodore S!!!

I suggest you to get acquainted..:)))))

My name is Alyona.

I want to find my "other half".?.

I want to find a man who would understand me without words, a man who could be my best friend, lover, who will never betray. Betrayal is terrible, even if it goes about little things. It's like a blackout in the middle of a sunny day. It's sad but people sometimes do that.

Love may end, passion may fade, but two people can always be good friends caring about each other; or at least they can smile to each other when meet in the street accidentally. Unfortunately, people sometimes don't do that. I think that the best gift is to have love, understanding, support.

Our life consists of many descreetthings, trifles, and we are able to make them pleasant for our beloved ones. And what do you think?

Please write me if you think my letter is interesting to you.

Sincerely,

Alyona

Prometheus
02-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Notable post for the other thread left yesterday:

theblackbelt
Starting Member



3 Posts
Posted - Feb 15 2007 : 00:14:34
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Ok, first i went twice. second time got my own apartment. this agency is a scam. I have a crying confession of my current fiance that she is sorry for lieing and that the agency actually wrote a lot of her letters. after meeting me she fell in love. i happen to be an american bad ass with a heart of gold. i can PROVE anything and woul sue the agency if i had the money. i live about 4 miles from the poltava office in poltava now. these guys are liars. They will tell you anything to keep you writing and there is a rule women must respond to all letters so the men to not get a refund.


theblackbelt
Starting Member



3 Posts
Posted - Feb 15 2007 : 00:21:02
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and by the way CC... I have met many of th mangers. this is Tony Fennell... I'll see you guys in poltava later eh? if you wanna challenge me I'll post everything including audio of natali confessing! You mess with An american Soldier. You lose. I already got a large chunk of my money back. Guys... call the credit card company and tell them you signed for nothing. unless the agency provides proof of signture you get your cash back every time. Any online purchase can be credited to your account unless you sign for it at your door.

take control. have no fear. These guys can ot stop you.

they fake the whole thing.

I was told after the two men attacked me with guns (AFTER THREATENING THEAGENCY WITH A CRIMINAL CHARGE) that the agenc is not responsible for my safety and next time I better get a body gaurd. i took both the guys on. 26 and a bad ass. they had guns and I didn't WHAT!!! WHAT!!! You can not stop the turth and you can not stop me!

AGAin, proof to anyone who wants it. Natali admits she didn't write the letters and OHHHHH!!!

the site specifically syas stay away from Kiev... guess whee Natali was from... yep.. kiev... and guess where they said she was living.... Poltava. in fact Natali is still in kiev.

wnna lose your cash and throw your heart into a blender... trust these weak fools called CC!

I'm waitng kids.

IvyChris5222
02-16-2007, 03:51 PM
A belated feliz dia de San Valentino para todos!!!

As we all know by now, FianceeConnections.com, which was a sister site to ConfidentialConnections.com is now arladys.com. The process continues. I find it rather odd, and strange that I sent personal messages to Fiona on my original post, and didn't ever hear anything back. Does the email system on this site work or not???

Adios para ahora!

GMAN
02-21-2007, 06:24 AM
I wrote to Valushya through another agency she replied when i opened her letter was a link to Ualadys: We have completely re-developed our system of clients' profiles.

Why? Many ladies say that they have insufficient information about our men-clients that we provide to them at our site. They want to know more about YOU for the honest correspondence and frequently many ladies just reject the correspondence with the clients whose profiles are filled in partly and miss some information. We would like you to spend no more than 5 minutes and to fill in this new form.

You can tell about yourself as much as you would like! The fields required to be filled in are marked with symbol *. However we imperatively recommend to provide more information about yourself, if you are interested in serious correspondence with our women-clients.

We offer our apologies for this inconvenience.

Thank you.

Funny i am already a member.By the way went to a strip club in Cape Town 90% of the girls were Russian Bulgarian the Bulgarians are prettier friendlier the Russians got annoyed because we did not buy them drinks .

gtearne

IslandMan
02-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Let me add my experience. I have been searching for love in the Ukraine now for a couple of years. I have been twice and am going again in March. I agree that many ladies at agencies are scammers. The younger the more suspicious. I have found some sites that I trust and both allow the exchange of personal info. And you will have to work a bit. I take none serious until I have talked with them on the phone. I have also developed a relationship with a fellow in Odessa who for a small fee checks to make sure the ladies are real for me. He worked in the marriage agency biz for a few years and feels most are scams. I have met a number of sincere ladies. And the 4 I am going to meet next month are all for real. Good luck and never give up!
John

Prometheus
02-23-2007, 12:11 AM
From CC board:

theblackbelt
Starting Member



3 Posts
Posted - Feb 14 2007 : 23:45:26
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holy hell i got a full documented case and a girl who backs me up. too much info to report, but I still have ALL THE INFO!

The girl and i are together, but... she didn't know of me before this. they told me she lived in Poltava and was really from kiev.

They didn't give her stuff she said they did and MOST of my letters were edited and her replies fake. I have shown her the tranlsations and she is shocked!

Why should have ot pay for fake emails? I didn;t een need them. I speak and read russian enough for basic conversation. i talk to er often online.

anyway... I have a full documented case... the place IS a scam and now live in poltava and know ex employees. They will add stuff or write you when the girl's don't know you. I am luck i am 26, good looking and just thruogh it all on the table. I got a tear fille sorry.

the agnecy sent 2 guys to try to kill me also after I said I would report them. the nmext night 2 men with guns tried to take my passport and I only escaped because I knew some cops close by (ABOUT HALF MILE) and I can run an olympic mile. they know my name. you say Tony Fennell and they'll know I am one of the only guys to get a partial refind for fake services.

If i can sue them for the rest I'll be very happy.


Note that "new" owner has a murder rap from the 80's in New York State. These are not gentle people, proceed with caution.[xx(]

GMAN
02-23-2007, 03:35 AM
I thought the girls liked old values family orientated .I created a false profile said my hobbies were nudism and swinging with other couples still got letters.Do these translators translate properly twice i said i was going away and would not be able to email while i was away the girls asked why i did not write to them?

gtearne

Prometheus
02-23-2007, 03:24 PM
GMAN,

I created several profiles, each more horrible than the next. I posted photographs of men so old, you'd need an EKG to confirm they were still living. They ALL got letters, mutliple letters.

I joined this forum to work out some catharsis I felt over Lyudmila S. #4001. In the process, I learned that she was very actively corresponding with at least four other men, while professing that I was her "one and only." Once you get through the seventh step of grief resolution, you'll find that you only feel foolish for wasting your time, money, and emotional currency on a LIE.

Prometheus

ham
02-23-2007, 05:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

I thought the girls liked old values family orientated .I created a false profile said my hobbies were nudism and swinging with other couples still got letters.Do these translators translate properly twice i said i was going away and would not be able to email while i was away the girls asked why i did not write to them?

gtearne


i think all you got are scumbags hoping to pocket returns when A FOOL & HIS MONEY SHALL SOON PART.
They ( many are men ) do NOT ( absolutely NOT ) care whether you're a 500 pounds sumo wrestler from Samoa; a 58yo negro bartender with genital herpes from Harlem; a 80yo american indian working as garbage collector or a perverted who served jail time over sodomy misfits from Uganda...they know numbers don't lie and some of the 116 idiots they're sending canned garbage to will UNDOUBTEDLY send some money...any money...

Prometheus
02-23-2007, 05:59 PM
quote:

i think all you got are scumbags hoping to pocket returns when A FOOL & HIS MONEY SHALL SOON PART.
They ( many are men ) do NOT ( absolutely NOT ) care whether you're a 500 pounds sumo wrestler from Samoa; a 58yo negro bartender with genital herpes from Harlem; a 80yo american indian working as garbage collector or a perverted who served jail time over sodomy misfits from Uganda...they know numbers don't lie and some of the 116 idiots they're sending canned garbage to will UNDOUBTEDLY send some money...any money...


THE NAKED AND COMPLETE TRUTH. It's all a numbers game with ualadys.com. Note that NOT ONE PERSON has posted they found love through CC or UAL. A couple did find sex, and that might be enough, but you can find sex in the yellow pages at home. No need to go to Ukraine for it.

val
02-23-2007, 06:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by howard darby


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

jo blo --i have been writing to julia 3801 for almos 3 years but she left for about 4 months suposedly another guy came to see her butit didnt work out she now tells me im the only one(haha)

howard. 3 Years. !!!!!!!!! Your joking. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot
3801
JULIA MIKHALIS
Poltava 36000
16 per Khorolsky Apt 48
Ukraine

nanotech7@juno.com
02-23-2007, 06:19 PM
Here it is,

My conclusion as well. I've also confirmed that she used a fake name, address and telephone number to purchase membership. I have closed lavieestebel's account.

Thanks for the report.

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nanotech7@juno.com wrote:
Hello,
I just got my first email this morning from a lady via Veggieconnection
and I am positive that is the same woman that is named tanyasweety1@rambler.ru
She is a scammer!
Here ia a copy of the email. Notice how her Bio. is normal and so is the English in her Bio.
Then look at the message. A poorly written Russian translation to English.
Clearly a Scammer/Spammer has taken this woman's Bio. and is using it or some kind of twist. Anyway, The Scammer tanyasweety1@rambler.ru has mysteriously disappeared the day before this lady popped up in my email box. I was originally contacted by tanyasweety1@rambler.ru when I was at Veggiedate. These scammers seem to like the veggie-sites. Please look into it. Hopefully this site is not owned by scammers from Russia....Arrrgghh!
Dave

My greetings!!!
I saw your structure on a site of acquaintances. You really have interested me also I has decided to write to you. Probably my letter will cause in you interest to write. But I do not know it already there will be your choice and you decide that make is farther. It would be desirable to be frank before and to inform you about that that you me have interested, I can not while to tell that occurs but it will be possible interestingly and mysteriously further. But about it we with you find out later but though it is very interesting to me to become already.
I would like to be your friend, if you not against...
If I have interested you you can write to me on my e-mail: lavieestebel@yahoo.com or lavieestebel (at) yahoo (dot) com
Good day!!! Yours faithfully Anna.

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Prometheus
02-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Frank N Beans strikes again... our fictitious 63 year old Chicagoan, who says, "This is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

From: Svetlana N. #7735
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 23 February 2007 10:04:24

Subject: Maybe we have a chance to become closer?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Greetings to You, Dear Frank J. !!! Would you mind if I tell you that you seem to be the person I have been always looking for? We do not know each other yet but if you give me a chance I will show you real love and devotion which I still have in my heart. I think that in our everyday life we have forgotten about love and romance..I am the one who can still value romance and beautiful compliments....I am the one who can melt your heart.... I will tell you a little about myself. I am a professional interpreter and I also teach students at the University. I have been to many countries of the world, like Germany, Hungary and UAE but I still think that there are many places where I would like to go..maybe with you? I have a son, he is 15 years old and I treat him like an adult person. We have great relationships and we are good friends with him. I put my profile on this site in order to find a man who will make my heart beats faster... I would like to start romantic relationships with that very man and who knows maybe we will find happiness together and will build a strong and happy family. In men I value the inner beauty, the ability to love and to be faithful. I know that if I fall in love I will turn my man's world into paradise, I will be with him in good and bad times, I will take him as he is and I will just LOVE him giving him my love, my life, my heart, body and soul. I think that love between man and woman is really just a kind of breathing. Love believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love is the beauty of the soul. These were just some thoughts about romance that I wanted to share with you. Perhaps you think the same..and then...we really have a CHANCE to become closer!!!!!!!!!!! I will be waiting for your reply! Warmest wishes, Svetlana

dijablue
02-23-2007, 07:58 PM
ok, it would seem that there are still some people who still want to believe. i guess i still have an open mind. i think anybody still corresponding should display ladies # and see if others reply if they are also in contact or if they have any details. does any body know #7726 Irina k.

dadepfan
02-24-2007, 02:26 AM
So, Valentina was in love with you to?? (#7548)


quote:Originally posted by dijablue

Hi,
I posted before about "losing" a lady. thought i should add some more info about the credibility of the ladies. I was to visit Ukraine last December to visit two ladies. One lady # 4287 said she was too busy. I had been in contact with her since june 06. The other said she would be in moscow #7548. When I asked Valyusha 4287 about leaving her country to be with the man she loved, she had not given it thought. she had no intentions of leaving her country, but then came back saying she would find it hard. I said to her "when i come to meet you, what are your plans for us after i go home?" her answer, keep corresponding. Ask your lady how difficult will she find leaving her country? I have written about 25 letters to #4287 and 62 to #7548 plus others. I cannot say that i have come across an honest one yet.


David A Desautel

nanotech7@juno.com
02-24-2007, 02:45 AM
They're all a bunch of lying BITCHES!!!

ham
02-24-2007, 10:24 AM
quote:but you can find sex in the yellow pages at home. No need to go to Ukraine for it.

EXACTLY.

ANYONE can have some teenager beauty queen at home, sparing travels, accomodation, hassle. Of course many men believe the MOB route is THE route to have some beauty queen FOREVER...dream on. Honestly, pals...when was the last time you laid a teen beauty queen in your city ( WITHOUT PAYING OR SPONSORING HER )? If the answer is "under Richard Nixon" or the like and NOT "last Friday", then do your math.

nanotech7@juno.com
02-24-2007, 03:18 PM
THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF LYING BITCHES!!!....

And there are plenty of hot women in the United States.

Just some of us are suckers....There are durndt out old greasy
bikers with hot young girlfriends as well as forty and fifty
year old men that have young women for firlfriends here
in this country. I can't speak for Italy....I think that the
real point is this........ALL THESE SCAMMER BITHES ARE LYING
WHORES!!!....I thought that was the topic here?......

Prometheus
02-24-2007, 04:49 PM
I really don't think "all these bitches are lying whores." Numerous posts have confirmed that the agency sends unsolicited emails without the women's knowledge, and writes responses to letters without the women's knowledge. The girls come in every now and again and get paid for to pose for photographs for their "portfolios" and to collect presents. Sounds like a nice little cottage industry. It is the foolish men who fall for the **** dished out by the agency that make all this possible, and any person who gives money to CC/UAL can only blame themselves for what happens next.

I would not be surprised to learn that 90% of the women in the CC/UAL portfolio are in ongoing relationships with local men at this moment, getting ****ed silly every night, and they just go down to the agency a couple of times a month to collect their cut of the money/gifts procured by fraud. Since people report they have met long time correspondents who did not even know who they are, this is the only explanation. If I lived in a struggling FSU economy and had a chance to make money by allowing my non-nude photos to be posted online, I'd probably take the same opportunity.

Aren't the men who buy into this rediculous idea emotional "whores" themselves? That's the conclusion I came to when I gave up on my CC fantasy. Haven't given them a dime in a couple of months and I am 100% better of for it, and pursuing a relationship with a real live woman who can love me back.

nanotech7@juno.com
02-24-2007, 05:38 PM
WOW!!!....I had no idea!.....That's new information to me.
But Prometheus, then what is the use of this website?
If the men that go these women that may or may not be
even aware of what is being done with their picture,
have it coming to them for being so stupid, why waste
time talking about? It soundslike you are saying that the
men get what they deserve?.....Maybe they do?....You could be
right?.....I have always proclaimed that our life is a mirror
of who we are and the choices we made....Although, sometimes
I forget that I believe that....What about this website?
Why do it then?.....So that a bunch of blaming men can sit
around and complain about how they are 76 years old and when
they tried to hook up with a 19 year old Russian girl that
things didn't turn out for them? Come to think of it....
I don't that I feel that sorry for them really anyway.
In fact....I don't really feel that sorry for myself.
There are plenty of kind and good women in my own country,
I am a good looking guy, and I only speak English.
Learning enough about a person to have a quote, unquote,
stable relationship with a well rounded foundation is
difficult enough as it is with a language barrier and 6 thousand
miles distance apart. Unless, someone just wants a hole with two
tits attached at the top to stick once in awhile? Then I see....
Well, I new opinion is for the guys that get scammed..."it's the
Fu..... you got for the Fu..... you tried to get fom the wrong
person.....These assholes do get what they deserve....Idiots!
Well...Now that I've sniveled about myself on this site for
getting scammed when I really did get what I deserved I guess
it's time for me to remove this website from my favorites
and move on. I'm glad to read your post Prometheus....I only
wish that I had read something like it sooner. But better late
than never. Thanks

howard darby
03-02-2007, 10:11 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Frank N Beans strikes again... our fictitious 63 year old Chicagoan, who says, "This is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist."

From: Svetlana N. #7735
To: Frank J. #396700
Date: 23 February 2007 10:04:24

Subject: Maybe we have a chance to become closer?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Greetings to You, Dear Frank J. !!! Would you mind if I tell you that you seem to be the person I have been always looking for? We do not know each other yet but if you give me a chance I will show you real love and devotion which I still have in my heart. I think that in our everyday life we have forgotten about love and romance..I am the one who can still value romance and beautiful compliments....I am the one who can melt your heart.... I will tell you a little about myself. I am a professional interpreter and I also teach students at the University. I have been to many countries of the world, like Germany, Hungary and UAE but I still think that there are many places where I would like to go..maybe with you? I have a son, he is 15 years old and I treat him like an adult person. We have great relationships and we are good friends with him. I put my profile on this site in order to find a man who will make my heart beats faster... I would like to start romantic relationships with that very man and who knows maybe we will find happiness together and will build a strong and happy family. In men I value the inner beauty, the ability to love and to be faithful. I know that if I fall in love I will turn my man's world into paradise, I will be with him in good and bad times, I will take him as he is and I will just LOVE him giving him my love, my life, my heart, body and soul. I think that love between man and woman is really just a kind of breathing. Love believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love is the beauty of the soul. These were just some thoughts about romance that I wanted to share with you. Perhaps you think the same..and then...we really have a CHANCE to become closer!!!!!!!!!!! I will be waiting for your reply! Warmest wishes, Svetl

HEY PROMETHUS,
I AM SUPPOSE TO VISIT SVENTLENA THE MIDDLE OF APRIL, I HAVE ARRAINGED TO TALK TO HER ON PHONE NEXT WEEK END AND SHE SENT ME A FREE 1 MINUTE VIDEO ON VALENTINES DAY. ITS TOO LATE TO CANCEL MY TRIP SO IF SHE IS NOT FOR REAL MAYBE I WILL JUST HAVE FUN ON THE TRIP
HOWARD

nanotech7@juno.com
03-02-2007, 04:04 PM
I was going to go this summer to see my lady.
Maybe I can up the date to April and we can go together?
I'm going to Yoshkar Ola.

Prometheus
03-02-2007, 04:08 PM
More power to you Howard. I am sure "she" had no knowledge of the letter to Frank (and a couple of hundred others), since no "professional interpreter" could have read his profile and concluded "you seem to be the person I have been always looking for"!

I really not cynical about dessert... I just don't believe ualadys.com has any legitimate services to offer.

nanotech7@juno.com
03-02-2007, 04:40 PM
Hmmm?
Wait a minute here........My "Lady" probably is writing to a
couple hundred other guys as well.
I guess it's just that it feels good to pretend that someone
really loves me right now without having to go through another
marriage like I just got out of. I guess we all can be a little
dillusional at times.

seajay
03-02-2007, 05:56 PM
quote:Learning enough about a person to have a quote, unquote, stable relationship with a well rounded foundation is difficult enough as it is with a language barrier and 6 thousand miles distance apart.
Yep. Read the kiddy story "The Little Mermaid" by Hans Christian Andersen. When she took the mermaid's voice as collateral for a pair of legs, the sorceress knew exactly what she was doing. If the mermaid could not express herself to the prince, she stood no chance of building a relationship with him. She was doomed from the start.

quote: I was going to go this summer to see my lady. Maybe I can up the date to April and we can go together? I'm going to Yoshkar Ola.
Yoshkar Ola is home to some of the most prolific scammers I have read about. You almost certainly won't be meeting the lady you think you've been communicating with. You are probably speaking to a woman's voice, but corresponding with males.

nanotech7@juno.com
03-02-2007, 08:04 PM
Aarrrggghh!!!%^*%$*^*%^*%^*
Dammit.........Yoshkar Ola is home to some of the most prolific
scammers?..........That figures!!!.......Good thing that I was
such a Jackass that I sent her my work resume that has everything
about me on it! My home address, Telephone number, every place I
ever worked and All of my schooling. Great, now it will probably
be like Prometheus says happens. Someone will use my Bio. to
scam someone else........But what if she's for real?
How the hell do I find out?
Dave

Prometheus
03-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Nano a/k/a Dave...

You don't have to give away half of everything you own every few years. I gave it the three strikes and I'm out rule.

You don't have to spend $7 to have someone send you a nice email. Send me $5 and I'll email you anything you want to hear... you can even call me "Loretta."

Sending your resume was a big, big mistake... but you know that already don't you?

Prometheus
03-02-2007, 09:05 PM
Great, now it will probably be like Prometheus says happens. Someone will use my Bio. to scam someone else........But what if she's for real? How the hell do I find out?

I would be more worried about someone obtaining credit in your name. There are numerous online services to get a SSN with home address and date of birth. If they have your employment info, etc., it is a piece of cake. I'd subscribe to a service to alert you to any credit inquiries run.

nanotech7@juno.com
03-02-2007, 09:37 PM
****, ****, ****!!!......I'm going to subscribe to one of those sites you just mentioned Prometheus....And then depression
set in.....As we join our hero back on the surface of the planet
we see that he's already purchased the rope and needs only to climb
that tree to hang himself...tune in next week for the exciting
conclusion of, "AS THE STOMACH TURNS"!....Dammit!!!....Well,
I guess I'll mail the dumb broad a computer now to really
get myself screwed. You know, I checked the rates at the DHL
website and for a package that only weighs 10lbs and is 15x15x15
it is over $400.00 to send it from America to Yoshkar Ola.
I just went and looked at the laptop to buy for her today.
I told them I'd be back before 5:00pm to pick it up.
I hope I don't get screwed.....................

seajay
03-02-2007, 09:39 PM
David, now I realise just how much slower than you I happen to be. You've pulled my chain fair and square, and now perhaps you can deploy the mercy rule.

[:I]

Cheers.

howard darby
03-03-2007, 04:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by nanotech7@juno.com

I was going to go this summer to see my lady.
Maybe I can up the date to April and we can go together?
I'm going to Yoshkar Ola.


hey nano,
i am going to poltava and simferopol from 4/12 to 4/22 dont have everthing confirmed yet;
re: svetlana 7735 i dont believe its her writing to frank--we have very intelligent correspondence and she answers my letters just like she was sitting next to me talking. i am trying to figure out a tackfull way of asking her when i talk to her next saturday by phone since we dont need a translator
howard

zepdp
03-07-2007, 08:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Good news.

I have been sending and receiving letters with Nadezhda N. #3867
Yesterday someone posted a letter received from Nadezhda and guess what? It?s a match word for word with one I received from her on the same day and only ten minutes apart. It?s not just great that she done this but great she done this to me because it?s making my legal case stronger.
If anyone else has been speaking with this lady I would like to hear from you.
I am now going to send her a reply and see what response I get. Let the games begin.

I recieved the following on the 12th January
Thank you very much for your warm letter and for sharing your life and opinions with me. I like that and I like the way you think, so both of us will do our best to give as much attention to each other is it possible.

I'd like to know what do you like to do from the following list??

Bowling,

bike riding,

camping, dancing

walking on the beach,

sun tanning,

talking all night about every thing under the stars

laying on a blanket watching the stars at night,

picnics,

dinning out at a nice restaurant

traveling in a car or a boat,

playing card games,

or maybe watching TV, DVD movies?

I am just interested in that and I have one joke for you!

There are 3 people standing in front of a magic mirror. The mirror gives you anything you desire if you tell it the truth, but you disappear if you lie. The first person to talk to the mirror was a very fat brunette. She walked up to the mirror and said "I think I am the thinnest person in the world." and poof, the mirror gobbled her up. The next person to come up to the mirror was a very ugly red head. She told the mirror "I think I am the prettiest person in the world" and poof, the mirror gobbled her up. Lastly came the blonde. She walked up to the mirror and said "I think..." and poof, the mirror gobbled her up.

What do you think;))))))))????????

Kiss you

Nadja

zepdp
03-07-2007, 09:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by bachelorboy101

Hi Nomorescam

Yes, I have been communicating with Nadja (3867). Has she sent you her "private" photos yet?

Here are a few letters I have received from her:

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

It's me, your girl from Ukraine;))) Here we have the last days of this year. I do not know whether I'll be able to write you till the 3rd of January. It seems to me that the office will be closed;-(((( It's a pity that I won't read your letters, but please wirte me because I want you to know that I think of you and I do not want to lose you. I'll come and just imagine how happy I wilI be to realise that you do not want to let me go in next year. I am really so glad that this year turned out to be so happy as I found you here. I want to say you "Happy New Year!" and I want to say SORRY for everything wrong I said last year, maybe for smth which you did not like in me. I just wanted to be myself and I wish everything to be better and happier in your family.

Just now you can observe such a fuss in Poltava. The markets are full of people, shops are overcrowded, everybody is trying ti buy smth pleasant for relatives and friends. I also have already bought presents for my parents and friends: many piglets of different size;) So as for me I celebrate New Year at home with my parents and be sure that when it strikes midnight and when our glasses are filled with champaigne I'll drink for you and for our happiness. Let the piglet make smth good for us in 2007!!!;))))) I really appreciate you and everything you do for me, you are the best man I have ever met, hope you are staying with me!!!

Sincerely Nadja

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

At last I managed to get you! It was so difficult. Do you know there were some problems with the site. I even did not know what to do. I thought that I had completely lost connection with you. But now everything is fine that's why both of us can relax. How were you and what news my darling wants to tell me?;))))))))))

Do you know that we had Christmas last weekend? Actually during the whole weekend I stayed at home with my family. I even did not want to leave the house. I watched TV as there were many different programs and movies. I stayed in bed and did nothing so you see how lazy I am;))) Do you still like me?;))))))))

Ok, I am waiting for your letter very much.

Kiss you softly

Nadja

p.s. Dear ****, I'd like you to be the first to come and visit me;)

----------------------------------------------------

Ps: - Karl, I have loads of letters from Daria P, if you want me to post any, she did seem pretty genuine, as I have had a few letters when I told her about my mother going in for an operation and my sister being pregnant, and she has asked me about these things in her letters, however, I`m sure Im not the first to be duped, lol:)





Hi, I have the same letters from #3867 Nadezhda N I also have several pictures, have you got the one with the reflection in the mirror.
I also have loads of letters and pictures from #4016 Daria P. She does seem genuine, until you tell her that you have booked a trip to see her, then she says she is not interested in a relationship with you, although she still wants to write to you and remain friends. I have told her that she is on this forum, and she was surprised.

zepdp
03-07-2007, 09:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by bachelorboy101

lol, just logged in to Ualadys, and yes, I have a new photo from Nadja - entitled "my little present for you" she is pictured with what looks like a red rose, wasn`t gonna pay for it!

Have a look at http://zepdp.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
for pictures of #3867 Nadezhda N

Ding dong
03-08-2007, 03:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

This is good that you have made another topic but with ualadys with it so everyone can see what is going. Just before the CC site went under I sent Elena a gift (I believe they were flowers, will check) so lets see if she has thanked me for them in her loving letter to me. Look I have received another letter from Elena G. #1587 today so I will post it here.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello my dear _______!

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter.

I missed you so much within the several days while the Agency was closed. As I understood, the Agency had some technical troubles and now it even has some other name. You imagine, I came up to the Agency and the office was closed and I can?t catch them on the phone. And I can?t express my gladness when they called me in the morning today and told that everything is all right and I can come to the office to get your letter.

You know, within these days I worried so much, I was frightened with a thought that I can loose you. We correspond via the Agency and we have no other way of communication, but they told me to day not to worry, everything will be all right, they just had some temporary problems.

_______, dear, I have not much time today as I have come to the Agency during my lunch break. But I want you to get my letter as soon as possible.

How are you doing, my dear? How is your mood? I hope your mood is still a holiday one!

Concerning myself, for some reasons I think that the holidays were such a long time ago? I celebrated New Year at home with my parents. My brother and his girlfriend came to visit us and we had a family celebration and met the New Year. By the way, so you know that according to the Chinese calendar this is a year of Fire Pig and it is very favorable in all senses, so I wish all your dreams and beginnings come true and everything you?ve decided may happen too!

Concerning Christmas, I have also spent that holiday in a family circle. Right on Christmas it was the official acquaintance of my brother girlfriend?s parents and the parents of mine. They invited our family to their place for Christmas and we celebrated together.

My dear _______, you know, I have picked a magic wish while the clock was counting minutes till the New Year. Of course I can?t tell you what wish it was as it won?t happen in that case, but that wish is about you and me.

_______, my dear, I wish you a wonderful day and I am waiting for your letters?

I have to go to work now.

Sending you my kiss.

Lena

Well as you can see she has completely forgetten about the wonderful gift I sent her for her countries Christmas (Jan. 7) and this does not surprise me now but it is to late. Remember I did all this prior to finding this forum about CC which is now ualadys.

Dublin I have all the receipts from all the gifts I have sent will they be any use in the future? What about this guy who's cousin is an International Lawyer, does he seem legit to talk to?

Thanks, Siberian


A terible letter. ! The usual junk stuff. I suppose if they have got away with it so far why not continue. ? I was wondering just how much of an affect we have had on CC. ? Reduced numbers. ? Reduced revenue ? I suppose only a little. :(
I would imagine that your receipts will be great. Hold on to them.
As for the Lawyer guy, well he is going to read this, so I hope he proves to be legit. !
This of course is the problem with these sites - who is legit, who is not legit, who is visiting from CC and UALady. Who is posting rubbish, who is really genuine, and so on. After all our experiences with CC its only human nature to suspect 'everything' and 'everybody'. :D
I am a bit concerned that the email addresses attached to our profiles are not working. Has 'anybody' ever received an email through this site. ? It seems to be almost impossible to contact anybody who runs the site. Surely somebody should be monitoring it and posting on the site from time to time, if only as a 'mod'. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Hi im new to this forum, but im now concerned because I coresponded with an Elina G #1586? Girl on c.c with long dark hair ...mmm?

Ding dong
03-08-2007, 03:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Hey Kevin

Yes I have received all my confirmations from CC/ualadys before the shutdown. I have sent them an email in the support and they have not given me a complete answer yet so I will be waiting for the reply.

Siberian


quote:Originally posted by Kevin

Siberianhusky

I have sent flowers to my girl before and know that it can take a day or two before she might get them. With everything going on with CC, it may take another day. I'm not saying she did, I'm just saying that she could have not gotten the gift yet. Also you should get an email stating that she recieved your gift. Did you get an email from CC/UALADYS saying she recieved the gift?


Hi guys! Very interesting stuff! as I was corresponding to Elena G #1586? from Karkov? same woman different code?

Silver
03-08-2007, 08:03 PM
Hello guys...

for those who recently joined this forum and need a little more proofs about our well known scam site...

check this out...

http://helpinlove.net/show.rpx?next=350

Silver
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
by the way...

some months ago when I joined this forum I wrote to Valentina B (Vaylusha B. ID 4287) using www.scanna.com services...two weeks ago I receive a wink from her on that site but I did not pay attention because now I know she is a scammer...

today I received a letter from her telling me that she is very interested in knowing me better...the story is that she already should know who I am because we exchanged letters during several months using the services of CC/UAladies...

the fact is that now she wants me to write her using the services of...

http://helpinlove.net

because those services are free for her...and as you can see this is our well known old scam site with a new name on the net...

WHAT A FRAUD....

siberianhusky
03-08-2007, 08:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Silver

by the way...

some months ago when I joined this forum I wrote to Valentina B (Vaylusha B. ID 4287) using www.scanna.com services...two weeks ago I receive a wink from her on that site but I did not pay attention because now I know she is a scammer...

today I received a letter from her telling me that she is very interested in knowing me better...the story is that she already should know who I am because we exchanged letters during several months using the services of CC/UAladies...

the fact is that now she wants me to write her using the services of...

http://helpinlove.net

because those services are free for her...and as you can see this is our well known old scam site with a new name on the net...

WHAT A FRAUD....


Yes you are right, my old password from CC/UA works on that same website helpinlove.net so I can login and snoop around at all the ladies. They are all linked and still scamming!!!

Siberian

Silver
03-08-2007, 09:16 PM
More of the same FRAUD...

http://www.crystaliclove.com/

Ding dong
03-09-2007, 11:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky


quote:Originally posted by Silver

by the way...

some months ago when I joined this forum I wrote to Valentina B (Vaylusha B. ID 4287) using www.scanna.com services...two weeks ago I receive a wink from her on that site but I did not pay attention because now I know she is a scammer...

today I received a letter from her telling me that she is very interested in knowing me better...the story is that she already should know who I am because we exchanged letters during several months using the services of CC/UAladies...

the fact is that now she wants me to write her using the services of...

http://helpinlove.net

because those services are free for her...and as you can see this is our well known old scam site with a new name on the net...

WHAT A FRAUD....


Yes you are right, my old password from CC/UA works on that same website helpinlove.net so I can login and snoop around at all the ladies. They are all linked and still scamming!!!

Siberian

Ding dong
03-09-2007, 11:38 AM
Hi - here is one for you guys! Vicktoria is also on the scanna site, same pics and everythig! UA# 7722 Lets go hunting lads!


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky


quote:Originally posted by Silver

by the way...

some months ago when I joined this forum I wrote to Valentina B (Vaylusha B. ID 4287) using www.scanna.com services...two weeks ago I receive a wink from her on that site but I did not pay attention because now I know she is a scammer...

today I received a letter from her telling me that she is very interested in knowing me better...the story is that she already should know who I am because we exchanged letters during several months using the services of CC/UAladies...

the fact is that now she wants me to write her using the services of...

http://helpinlove.net

because those services are free for her...and as you can see this is our well known old scam site with a new name on the net...

WHAT A FRAUD....


Yes you are right, my old password from CC/UA works on that same website helpinlove.net so I can login and snoop around at all the ladies. They are all linked and still scamming!!!

Siberian

Prometheus
03-12-2007, 12:44 PM
The new site is just the old Confidential Connections/ualadys.com database with a new URL and homepage. ALL of the CC/ualadys are on this new site. To find yours, just type in URL as follows:

http://helpinlove.net/photo2.rpx?id=[YOUR LADY'S ID, NUMBER ONLY NO BRACKETS]

Prometheus

brian
03-17-2007, 10:43 AM
I have been with cc and now ualadys for nearly 2 years and there have been times when I have wondered whether the ladies have been what they say they are, especially when you receive letters declaring there love fo you and they don't even know you but you have to be realistic until you meet these ladies there is no way you are going to have a relationship with them but you can at least try to get to know them, I find there is only so much you can say without atually knowing these ladies. I don't believe that all the members are all out to scam us, there are some genuine ladies waiting to meet the right person.

Brian

howard darby
03-18-2007, 05:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky


quote:Originally posted by Silver

by the way...

some months ago when I joined this forum I wrote to Valentina B (Vaylusha B. ID 4287) using www.scanna.com services...two weeks ago I receive a wink from her on that site but I did not pay attention because now I know she is a scammer...

today I received a letter from her telling me that she is very interested in knowing me better...the story is that she already should know who I am because we exchanged letters during several months using the services of CC/UAladies...

the fact is that now she wants me to write her using the services of...

http://helpinlove.net

because those services are free for her...and as you can see this is our well known old scam site with a new name on the net...

WHAT A FRAUD....


Yes you are right, my old password from CC/UA works on that same website helpinlove.net so I can login and snoop around at all the ladies. They are all linked and still scamming!!!

Siberian

well guys they have changed again none of these sites will take the ua password and log on now---guess they got wise to us
howard

zepdp
03-26-2007, 06:16 PM
Hi all, Nadezhda n #3867 found her on Russianladies.com ID: RL72067467

dijablue
03-27-2007, 09:07 AM
Well, after reading all of the above and already making a couple of posts, I still believed that i would find a genuine lady through this site.... THAT was until NOW!!!!! (read my question and answer to support)we know that helpinlove IS part of them, but our friend Elena, is saying it is the "other" agencies doing it!

My Letter to support....
I have been a member with you for nearly a year and still have not found any lady honest enough to communicate with!!! The last lady (third scammer) Irina 7726 has a profile on 3 sites, and after saying honestly that she was not on any other sites. She wanted to meet me until I contacted her on Scanna.com (ID 107181)and have not heard from her since. I see A lot of your ladies are on this site!!!!!!!!! ALSo why are all your ladies also listed on http://helpinlove.net/??????? The only person who is benefiting from me being a member is you!!!!

My Answer..........
Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator Hello, dear Denis.
Thank you for e-mailing us and thank you for using our services.
When we register ladies on our site, we ask them to delete their profiles from other sites, but unfortunately other sites refuses to do it and moreover these sites have a lot of affilates, so when the lady registers on one site, she appears to be on other sites as well. So there is nothing to do with the lady, but with the other agencies.
And that agencies use ladies profile.
Our secretaries make monitoring of the ladies and we always check their status.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us, we are always ready to help you!

We appreciate your membership!

Sincerely, UA Ladys Support Team


Now using scanners website, I wrote to Irina #107181 and got this reply?.
Dear, David (?????).
(Thank you for your interest in me but I do not think we are a good match
All the best.)

Then I wrote to her on UA ladies #7726 and got this reply??.
Irina K. #7726
22 March 2007
Strange..

TRANSLATED FOR IRINA
Hello, David!!!
It is really surprising me that you wrote to me..I was already thinking you lost your inetrest in me..
I alreeady do nto know how to react at this your constant search of my profiles in other agencies..I think i wrote to you alreayd that I AM ONLY WIHT UA LADIES!I am only with them and I do not know what other agencies mnay have stolen my photos from this site. I duess it is easily done..
I didn't recieve anything from you and I didn't know why you stopped writing to me here..why are you talking about ignoring here?
It is strange to me ..i cannot understand one thing: you found me on the fake sites and even were spending money I suppose to write to me from there, then got no replies from me at and still you say that you do not trust UALadies and are not going to travel with them!!!!Where is the logic here David?
I really do not understand.
Sincerely
Irina
My opinion is UA Ladies posted her profile on scanners web site. You guys might come up with a different opinion, but that?s what I think. Also, it would seem that UA Ladies are editing my letters because I told Irina the sites she was on in my letters, but in her letter she says she does not know what agencies?
Go Figure?

avalon173
03-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Hi guys.I stumbled on this site by accident really.The agency you are talking about has offices in Ukraine,Argentina and Brazil now.I have visited both Ukraine and Brazil with these agencies and I know a few of their people in both countries.I am friends with both their current managers/translators as well as their former translators who to this day are still my friends.I will state now that I did in fact meet my wife through their agency.I was one of the lucky ones and found a lady who was actually using the agency to find her perfect man who just happens to be me.I had a hard time at first to believe she was real because of the nature of these agencies to write fake letters and use real girls profiles without their consent in ways that are deceptive.I met my first prospect in Ukraine by just going there to start meeting their ladies to see if they were real.I can tell you that I met quite a few of their ladies in Kharkov and Zhitomir and can say they were quite real.The lady I met in Ukraine was to die for beautiful and we had a special connection from the start when we met.Unfortunately that lady chose the career path there and advised I not wait for her.My search ended in Brazil after I had met a lady from their site.I decided to just go down there to see how real she was at the risk of being played.Not only was she real but she was my perfect match in every way.She was 18 when I had met her(I was 36).I met her entire family and stayed with her for 3 of the best months of my life.Even her family was skeptical on her end thinking I was not real and that I was a joke of some kind.Everyone here could only say all she wanted was US citizenship but I will tell you guys that is the farthest thing from the truth.I will be moving to her city in Brasil and building a house in 2008 right after we are married in Brazil.Her family has a big plot of land and I will build my house on their land to start my new life.I am returning in April to see her again for a few weeks.Any of you are more than welcome to email me for the proof of all of this.I can tell you that I was just lucky like I won the lotto.The girls that are candy on their site I would tell you to stay away from(the model types).Those are the girls they use to lure you in and they know it.My lady is beautiful but not a supermodel.My best advice to all of you is to just go to the place and start meeting their ladies,do not rely on the site for validity.You just go there and start meeting their ladies until you find one(or not).It is the best way and afterwords you do not need the agency to communicate and you know she is 100% real.If they do not speak english you can use translation software or learn their language like I did,I am 50% fluent in Portuguese now and will be 100% soon.You have to ask yourself if you are serious about your search and follow it all the way through,the lies,the shams,fake letters,etc.Like I said before,seeing is believing so just go there.What is the worst that will happen?You have a good time and see a new country? The thing I liked about the agency tour in Ukraine is that I got the safety I needed of not knowing their culture and language.I am not so sure I would have just gone without it.And I had the luxury of meeting a new hottie everyday =) I am posted on their Brazil site in their testimonials if you do not believe me or think this is them trying to further the scam.To answer all your doubts you have to go to their country and stop playing games with the internet,its the only way to know.

Prometheus
03-30-2007, 12:49 PM
Anyone remember Mr. Haney from Green Acres?

http://photo.ualadys.com/photo_storage/12/128205/small.jpg

He is member of UALADYS.COM, formerly known as Confidential Connections! Who would have thought that Eustace Haney would be a lady killer??? Not only is he 54, but his profile reads:

My hobbies:
I have a farm and enjoy raising pigs and goats. I make my own cheese and like to distill corn liquor in my spare time.

About myself:
. . . I am a guy who flushed a ****load of money down the toilet with confidentialconnections.com now ualadys.com. this is a test. Do not contact me unless you are a scam artist.

I guess that homemade moonshine is an aphrodisiac!

25 year old Natalya says

From: Natalya P. #1900
To: Eustace H. #128205
Date: 30 March 2007 06:24:49

Subject: Be my angel..................


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR NATALYA

Be my angel, dear Eustace!

Be my angel with wings spread wide

to guard all the love i have inside,

be my angel from up above,

be the angel im thinking of.

i got so much love and you can have it all,

be my angel, hear my call,

catch me when i start to fall, be my angel.

i give to you my heart,

be my angel,

just dont tear it apart,

just dont hurt me, you and i were meant to be,

i close my eyes your all i see,

be my angel thats all i ask.

do you think your up to the task?

be my angel.


Wait for my angel.......

Write me please.

Your angel, Natalya

----------------------------

Not to be outdone, 24 year old Olyesa P says:

From: Olesya P. #2541
To: Eustace H. #128205
Date: 29 March 2007 14:50:43

Subject: :-))


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear, friend.Let me introduce myself, my name is Olesya.I am an ordinary Ukrainian girl, who wants to be happy to and to find her soul-mate.Perhaps, it sounds very banally, but I am an old-fashion person, and I think that a family is the most important thing in life of each person. So, I really dream to find my especial man and to create a family. Though in the same time, I am very cheerful and easy-going and I love to communicate with interesting people, to find new friends and to travel.I hope we will become friends with you and perhaps something more serious will grow from our friendship. How do you think? Do we have a chance?I will answer on all your questions if you decide to write me.With warmth, Olesya.

If it looks like dog ****, smells like dog ****, and tastes like dog ****... guess what? It is dog ****.

ham
04-01-2007, 03:17 PM
they would write the ghost of a zombie with genital herpes.
I remember many years ago, when DIAL-UP (not DSL) was the norm, scammers infesting dating sites (EG Yahoo-personals ) would message anyone, tricking them into either joining paysites or most often visiting sites loaded with dreadful calling-applets, so that they would connect to some premium number at 2,3,4? a minute.
They relied upon men's idiotic self-esteem...most men would go crazy after receiving a charming message (possibly with sexual hints) and would not bother to check the message was sent to 6522 people, and forgetting that unless a man is in bed with teenage models every saturday at home, he is unlikely to bed one over the internet.

Silver
04-04-2007, 05:23 PM
There is a saying in my country...

(los perritos a los 15 dias abren los ojos....los pendejos nunca)

that means something like...

the worst blind man is that whom do not want to see...

check this out...if you still think that you have a chance to meet an honest woman using the services of an scam site with several domains...

http://www.heartrelations.com/

zepdp
04-04-2007, 08:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by Silver

There is a saying in my country...

(los perritos a los 15 dias abren los ojos....los pendejos nunca)

that means something like...

the worst blind man is that whom do not want to see...

check this out...if you still think that you have a chance to meet an honest woman using the services of an scam site with several domains...

http://www.heartrelations.com/

Look at the anti scam policy page
UA Ladys fights against scams and do our best to protect you!
oops! forgot to change that one

zepdp
04-04-2007, 08:25 PM
Just put a new profile on there, waiting for replys
sid snot
Age 100 years old
Birth Date: 1907 April 01

Height:150 cm Weight: 185 kg
Eyes: Other Glasses (lens): Yes
Hair: Bald

Children: Three or more

Country: Ukraine City: kiev Zip: 0
Race: Multi Racial Religion: Atheist

Education: Graduate Degree
Employment/Career: Waste Management

Smoke: Smoke Drink: Drink all the time


My hobbies:
drinking and smoking

About myself:
I am a fat lazy short bald bloke, who drinks and smokes a lot

Employment:
Waste Management

Prometheus
04-07-2007, 11:38 PM
I've already done an overweight guy who drinks all the time and is employed in waste managment. He got plenty of responses. Prometheus

michaelhile
04-09-2007, 04:29 PM
Hi Guys,
I haven't posted or responded to this site since the first of the year after the the S--T hit the fan at CC. I have followed the forum more out of curiosity than anything else. I am still amazed how many of you guys still have no clue as to what is going on. I just returned from a trip to Odessa. I had met a lady thru a local, small agency. I could not have had a better time. I was able to go to the agency and was offered to go thru their portfolios of all their ladys. The manager was extremely professional and everyone was very courteous. I booked a furnished apartment thru and independent agency for two full weeks. $840US that included pickup and drop of at airport, high speed internet, downtown and close to everything.
While I was there I contacted CC/UAladys and tried to set up a meeting with one of the ladies. I was all set to go till the agency dropped this bomb on me. They wanted $50 to arrange the meeting along with another $100 to run a background check. Needless to say, the agency is still going to try to squeeze you out of any money they can even if some of the women are legit. I Told them I have never and was not going to start paying anybody just to meet a girl. For $150 I could of hooked up with one of the most expensive hookers in town.
As I have said before, when are some of you guys going to stop doing the same thing over and over and still expect different results. How much do you need to hear and read about that will finally convince you to move on and go with a different agency. Or at the least step up, and go there. I found out while I was there that very rarely do the men these ladies contact ever come to Ukraine.
Now a little advice. Learn the language. I started this journey over a year ago and have been trying to learn Russisn since. This was my second trip to Ukraine and knowing the language made all the difference in the world. If some of you are even half way serious about this the least you could do is meet your future spouse half way.I am going back in a couple of months and start the K1-Visa process. That is how good this last trip was. If anyone has any questions or needs more info feel free to email me anytime at michaelhile@comcast.net

Prometheus
04-14-2007, 02:30 PM
Mr Haney strikes again!

Eustace, you have a new mail!

http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/12/128205/small.jpg

Dear Eustace H. #128205,

This is to notify you that you have received an E-Mail from

Dasha N #2566

http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/2566/small.jpg

Subject: I am interested in corresponding with you..
Date: 12 April 2007

Hi!How are you?:-))Let me tell you a bit about myself. I am a merry, sociable, kind person with a good sense of humour :-)). I am fond of making surprises. As for my hobbies, I like to play the piano, to sing different songs, to play chess ( I think it is the most interesting and useful play, because you should think while playing this game). I prefer to spend my free time with my friends. I like to go to the discos with them because I enjoy dancing. I prefer the active way of life, but sometimes I am tired and I simply want to stay at home, to read an interesting book.I am willing to meet a kind, merry and honest man. To my mind honesty is one of the most important feature of the character of the members of a happy family because honesty is the first step to trust and understanding. And what about you? What traits of character do you appreciate in people? What is your opinion about the relationship in a happy,maybe perfect, family?I want to know you the more, the better. Tell me also about your job, your hobbies, your favourite books, films, kinds of sport.I am looking forward to receiving your letter soon.With best wishes,Dasha

ham
04-14-2007, 06:23 PM
quote:Eustace, you have a new mail!

bleah!
I can hardly believe there is something still straight in this MOB business.

Silver
04-20-2007, 04:47 AM
Check this out...

http://loveattach.com/

more of the same FRAUD...

period.