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ham
01-13-2008, 03:44 PM
quote: Honestly skipped, if a girl (especially a smokin' hottie) is on one of these sites for let's say a year, and hasn't found someone, there's more going on than her trying to find a suitible mate. Whether it's her, or the site, something is up.

http://stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=558

There i documented how a sizable portion of profiles are ages old.
How would a cutie sit on the shelves for 2, 3, 5+ years is beyond me...many profiles might very well be left behind and remotely controlled by translators; and IF a woman has been sitting on the shelves for years, then maybe she's making a living out of it.

PeopleSmoks
01-13-2008, 04:00 PM
http://stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=919

I stumbled across this interesting little thread earlier today. It's worth reading. Basically, it's one guy's story of how the girl he was writing to was very real, but the agency translator manipulated their correspondence. Check it out!

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skipped
01-13-2008, 07:24 PM
scams, laws, international laws, this is all way beyond me! I guess you have to trust who you are doing business with until you get burned. I will say this however, it sounds like the agency will introduce you to the ladies you want to meet(assuming they want to meet you!). It sounds like in some cases they either have other guys they are meeting or they have you on their mass mailer list hoping for free gifts or whatever perks, payments, they might receive. Since supposedly only 1 out 50 writers ever even visits the Ukraine it might be a numbers game for them trying to find the right guy as well.
I really don't like many issues here. Like the fact that I'm possibly getting scammed, do these girls even have any idea that I exist? The only positive is the fact that until I found the website (which a guy who was seeing a girl via CC told me about the website by the way)I did not know these gals even existed. A translator and introduction is a good way to get things started. But if the girl I thought was my long lost love via e-mails just does not feel the same way about me in person (or vice-versa), then I am going to be upset and feel like I have wasted much, much, time and many hard earned dollars? Probably a bit - But hey, that life! Definitely not always fair!!!!

You know, I have never been to Europe. But am excited about visiting a place with history well before Christ! An having a gal that I'm interested in, or even a good-looking scammer showing me around to all landmarks. How bad of a trip could it possibly be??? I'll learn about there culture, the gals at the agency, and be able to draw my own conclusion about this whole situation/organization. Positive attitude !!
I don't think being uptight and making accusation during the duration of the trip is going to win any ladies hearts!!!
Just a few thoughts

-by the way Peoples, Ham, Swede like the posts. They offer great insight, background, and differing thoughts/opinions. Thanks for the info-

PeopleSmoks
01-13-2008, 08:15 PM
Hey skipped! Like you, I've never been to Europe either, and have never had a reason to do so until recently. My first trip comes Feb 29th. I leave on the 28th, but we lose a day flying east.

Yeah, it's a risk all the way! The negative possibilities are almost endless. My sentiments are similar to yours in that regardless of the outcome of my meeting with my Ukrainian love, I have never taken such a trip and plan to make the best of whatever life throws at me. If nothing else, I can say that I am the first person in my family to travel to Europe as a civilian in about 40 years!

Facing the realization that you may be writing to and planning to meet with a scammer, gold-digger or worse, a non-existent character certainly isn't what any of us are hoping for, but we do need to face the fact that it is a possibility. Excepting this will hopefully take the sting out if it's the case, and make the trip that much more enjoyable should this FSU goddess turn out to be the real deal and be madly in love with you!!!

So, do you have a trip planned yet? Or still working on it? By the way, if things don't work out with your particular FSUW, I hear it's not impossible to actually meet a real girl once you've gotten there? Understand that I'm not talking about the "sex tourist" crap because I have less respect for those types than I do for the scammers, but actually meeting someone.

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brunods
01-13-2008, 09:21 PM
Well I told mine it wasn't working out and I think it makes no sense to continue our correspondence. Here's her reply:

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THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY TAMARA D, FOR NADEZHDA N.

Yes, Bruno, I think we are different!

Nadja
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Does this look like a scam? Nah! :)
I think she agrees that we don't match, she wouldn't do this if she was paid to talk to me.

So my UA story got to a conclusion finally. :p

PeopleSmoks
01-13-2008, 09:25 PM
quote:Does this look like a scam? Nah! :)
I think she agrees that we don't match, she wouldn't do this if she was paid to talk to me.

Could be a scammer or a real girl who simply decided that to persue relations with you was more effort than it was worth???

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ham
01-14-2008, 07:07 AM
whether real or -most likely- a ringer or a fake, the person behind the profile is likely to be corresponding with MANY men at once. One failed to get on hook properly, so why bother? It's a game of big numbers where faceless men are scrutinized and -like marrons glaces - you dispose of many to find just one that will buy.

brunods
01-14-2008, 04:18 PM
Actually it was me who decided, I told her I had no interest in continuing correspondence with her. She just said OK. Simple enough even though I got unlimited mails to her up to 26 January.

I don't think she has MANY men who have unlimited mails to her for 2 months and that would mean 75 USD income per month which is nearly the minimum monthly wages in Ukraine. So I don't think she would give that up easilly if she was making money out of it. And be serious I don't think she would have more than a handful of man who she corresponds with personally. Her letters were personal not generic so she did take time to answer me. And she didn't write short letters also! :)

I just said I wish you luck in finding your men! She's beautiful so all she has to do is to come to Europe for a week, she'll easilly find a guy who'll fall for it and earns enough to sustain her.
But for my evaluation I think this is a spoiled girl so she won't go for just any guy and has expensive tastes.
I knew she wasnt the girl for me when I sent her the photo of my cat and she failed to comment and latter on gave a very short totally uninterested comment... that was it! If she doesn't like my cat, she doesn't like me! ;) lolol (I'm joking!)

BTW my cat yesterday went crazy and started growling at me when I got home then she got really aggressive wanting to bite and scratch when I approached. Her meowing was really wild, it was the first time I saw her like this.. so .. berserk! She scratched so hard her nails bled, was really psycho-kitten!
Well I did what any macho-owner would do and put her in her place. After like half an hour of showing her who's da boss, she was tired and go more quiet, went to rest. After half an hour more I went to pet her and she licked my fingers...
Strange episode of ravagenous fury and then back to normal. From what I read if a cat manages to get rid of us by behaving aggreessive, he will be more likely to keep doing it if it works as he wanted. So I react the oppposite, whenever she acts aggressive I make sure she knows who's da boss and "ya aint scaring anyone with dat". I think she was pissed her tactic didn't work out but seems to be back to the old same tamed kitten. It was fun anyway! I even gave her a bath so you can imagine how you can grab a furious berserk cat and give him a bath. It was total destruction and she crapped the whole bathroom! :P
She was all dirty cuz she crapped herself.. thats why she got a bath! hehe

Gonna put her in the psycho-cat online therapy group this week.
Stop-Psycho-Cats.com

:P

swede
01-14-2008, 04:35 PM
You really have some endearing pedagogical methods.

ham
01-14-2008, 06:56 PM
quote:who's da boss and "ya aint scaring anyone with dat".

detective, is this you?
:D[8D]

PeopleSmoks
01-14-2008, 09:40 PM
quote:I don't think she has MANY men who have unlimited mails to her
Why not? Again I'll refer to this thread that I stumbled across and suggest you read the post.
http://stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=919 Even if she was a real girl, who's to say what the translator was doing. Heck, Nadia may have completely blown you off a month ago, but the UA translator kept writing to you because it's his/her job.

Let's do some hypothetical math. Let's say a translator can read and write 10 to 20 "personal" letters a day. Keep in mind the Ukraine work day is 8 to 10 hours. Letters are received on one day, and the reply is sent out the next, so the translator is really only writing to you every other day, along with X number of other every other day letters. This means he/she may have between 20 and 40 victims to keep up with at $75 a pop, we're talking $1500 to $3000 per month going to UA, times however many translators? Let's say 10? $15,000 to $30,000 each and every month!!!!! With wages being what they are in Ukraine, I think this would support a good sized workforce.

Heck, after this, I think I may just stay in Ukraine when I take my trip and set up my own little scam operation!!![:o)]

As for the cat... well??????????????????????????



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brunods
01-15-2008, 11:38 AM
Smoks, I could easilly figure if it wasn't her anymore no? :)
Unless it was always the translator talking in every letter, you can see if the person who you are talking with is the same or someone else. This was her, it matches her personality.

I just think the letters were largely improved by the translators to seem the lady is really very interested and then that doesn't match her real intentions so we have the feeling something is wrong as the supposed feelings don't match the actions.

Anyway I wont be using any more online dating things, will give it a shot at real life instead...

Bill4u
01-15-2008, 08:42 PM
this is the first time ever I have posted anything on any forum site. I got another notice letter from a lovely lady from UA ladies, (I have not used that site for over a year) but,I did a little google search, saw this forum, and wanted to reply.
I went to Lugansk 2 years ago to meet a lady, she was real and she was nice, but a little too young I thought after I met her, but we did have a good time. But, while in their office (CC then, UA now) I watched a man, out of the corner of my eye, writing reply letters to men for the ladies!! I saw him respond to maybe 5 different guys who thought, I am sure, it was their 'girl friend' writing!! They are scammers and many, many ladies and web sites are, so be very careful!! That is not why I took the time to write today.

I have been to Ukraine 3 times and Romania 4 times, I wasted a lot of time and effort over the past 2.5 years but I was determined.

Last week I got my K-1 visa approval for my beautiful fiancee from Romania! If you are determined, and a little lucky, you will find who you are looking for. Don't give up, but be cautious! Plus, I did the application myself, no lawyer, I got approved in less that 4 months. We almost never wrote, she could not afford the cafe, and she would not take money from me. We talked on the phone almost every day. This is a much better way to get to know someone. We have traveled all through Romania, I drove and that was insane!, but we survived! Anyway, I just wanted to tell everyone out there to keep trying, I had writen 1000's of letters, most of them to probably scammers, but I finally found my princess, nothing else matters! And for those who wonder, I am a very young 57, she is a very mature 26, speaks perfect English, and was getting her masters in child psychology, a very sweet lady... but with a little 'Italian' blood!
Good luck to all out there!!

Suckered
01-15-2008, 09:23 PM
I am sure that I can thank you from everyone on this forum Bill4u. Your attention to these details are exactly what we ALL need to hear, especially those guys that are blind because they cannot get their mind around the fact that these professional letter writers are doing these letters. In this case you saw it with your own eyes (Boris writing a Natasha letter). So for those of us that are too blind to see that this is happening; WAKE UP!!!!!!! DID YOU HEAR ME?? WAKE UP and smell the coffee. Also thank you for letting us all know about your success in Romania; Congratulations on your happiness; You deserve it. This should be ALL that we need to hear to make it final about CC/ualadys and their massive scam using some of the best looking cash cows to suck in the suckers $$$$. A BIG thumbs up to Bill4u. Thanks again Bill.

PeopleSmoks
01-15-2008, 09:57 PM
quote:(Boris writing a Natasha letter)
Or maybe it was a Nadia letter???????????

Good luck Bill4u!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bill4u
01-16-2008, 01:43 PM
You are welcome!! I do have 15 letter credits on UA, they have been there for over a year, anyone out there want them?? They are going cheap!! :-))) Maybe I will put them on ebay! :-))) that's a joke!

But, I do understand the emotions, you just want to believe so much this person is sincere. My 'hind-sight' is not 20/20, I was scammed many times. I developed my own method of correspondence that helped 'weed-out' the scammers. I also developed a way to get even just a bit! I sent a lady to Western Union 4 times "I am so sorry my darling, I do not know what happened, here is the number, I will send again" I wrote :-) Actually, my correspondence with scammers became a sick form or entertainment for me, they were convinced I 'loved' them and that I was a complete fool :-) I was a little upset then because I discovered that the lady I had met a few months past in Lugansk (not from UA, another web site) and met her family, and talked about marriage, and we were going to meet for 2 weeks in Kiev, and because we had met and planned, I then sent her money for her plane fare to Kiev (I already had my awesome apartment rented, and my plane ticket) ...that was the last time I heard from her. So again I say, be careful!!! Please know that ALL web sites have some scammers.

Remember, this process is not easy, try hard to trust your instincts, talking on the phone is very helpful for you both, IM-ing is a great way to communicate, but not as good as the phone, letter writing, at least for me, is a wonderful and creative form of communication, but not the most revealing. Honest communication and a shared philosophy on life is critical for any happy relationship, so for me, speaking English became a top priority.

I could write a book about this process, maybe I will once we are married... she is awesome guys, the woman I have spent my entire life looking for.

I need to get back to work, Good luck to all, Bill

ROBINHOOD
01-16-2008, 03:29 PM
HI THERE FROM ENGLAND HOPE YOU GUYS ARE ALL OKAY. I CAME ACROSS THIS SITE THE OTHER DAY AND BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT HAS BEEN WROTE, VERY HELPFUL AND INTERSTING I MUST ADMIT I WAS VERY UPSET AT FIRST BECAUSE I COULDNT BELIEVE HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH PLAYING WITH PEOPEL FEELINGS AND HEARTS JUST FOR A MONEY I THINK ITS DISGUSTING. I HAD THE FIRST THOUGH THAT COULD BE TRANSALOTORS OR PEOPLE BEING PAID TO WRITE THE LETTERS BT I WAS RESSURED BY THERE CONTACT SUPPORT TEAM AND THEY ANWSERED MY QUESTIONS. BUT I DO BELIEVE MOST OF IT IS A CON DOES ANYONE THINK THAT ANY OF THE GIRLS ARE REAL? AND GENUINE LOOKING FOR LOVE? I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO UKRIANE AND WAS GOING TO SAVE UP TO GO IN MARCH HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT JIMS WEBSITE WHO BLACKLISTED UALADYS AND RECONMENDS OTHERS! SO SOME OF YOU GOING UKRAINE SOON HAVE YOU BOOKED WITH UALADYS OR GOING OF OWN ACCORD. OH I HAVE SEEN 2 GIRLS ON HERE MENTIONED ALRADY WHO WROTE TO ME THAT NADJA SHE WROTE TO ME THE OTHER DAY THE ONE WHO WAS TALKING TO YOU BRUNO AND SOME OTHER GIRL WHO WAS MENTIONED ON HERE FROM THERE OLGA. I DIDNT WRITE BACK TO THEM AND IM GLAD I AM CORRESSPONDING WITH ONE GIRL I REALLY LIKED AND AFTER READING THIS ON HERE I WROTE TO HER SAYING I WAS A BIT UNHAPPY AND NEEDED SOME PROOF SHE WAS REAL AND SHE REALLY WANTED TO MEET I HAVENT HAD A REPLY YET I SHALL TELL YOU WANT HAPPENS. I DONT KNOW HERE LETTERS WERE NOT RANDOM AND SHE DID ANSWER MY QUESTIONS SO I SHALL SEE MAYBE WISHFUL THINKING BUT THEY RUIN YOUR TRUST AS ANYONE BEEN TO POLTAVA? ANYWAY NICE TO SEE SOMEONE HAVE SOME LUCK WITH LOVE WELL DONE BILL 4 U TAKE CARE LADS WELCOME REPLIES AND ANY EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE WITH THIS!

ham
01-16-2008, 03:52 PM
quote:DOES ANYONE THINK THAT ANY OF THE GIRLS ARE REAL? AND GENUINE LOOKING FOR LOVE? I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO UKRIANE AND WAS GOING TO SAVE UP TO GO IN MARCH HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT JIMS WEBSITE WHO BLACKLISTED UALADYS AND RECONMENDS OTHERS!

1 beware of sites running black AND gold lists at the same time. True, they say agencies on the "black" list are there because they are bad, and that agencies on "gold" lists are there just because they are good.
The site you mention oftentimes posts information about third parties, then amends, retracts or even deletes such information according to back stage dealing, blackmail and other fine business tactics. I ask: if they are only brave crusaders spreading truth to the benefit of the public, why do they often amend or take back their statements? There is money in the MOB business, and someone is making it right now. Fine if you pay for a service; a fraud if you are their sock puppet.

2 Some women are legitimate, but most are novelty seekers, perpetually undecided or scammers (whether in person or by proxy ). Many scammers are men or translators pulling the strings of fake or left over profiles. However, this is common to the WWW/LD dating scene IN GENERAL.

swede
01-16-2008, 04:33 PM
It's like gambling. In an honest game you have a certain statistical chance of winning. If loaded dice is part of the arrangement, your chances are considerably smaller, even non-existent.


And as Ham often has pointed out, there's a lot of possibilities for conning in cyber-dating.


IF you are able to look through the general disinformation put out by the dating-industry, IF you have passed the obstacle of individual scam-agencies, IF you get contact with an existing woman, IF she doesn't scam you on a personal freelance basis (visa/ill grandmother), IF she makes and keep an exclusive agreement, IF she turns up for a meeting at her own locality, IF she's not a pro(professional)-dater, IF she doesn't leave you, the day her green card is a fact....... Well then, congratulations. You're one of the lucky guys.


For newcomers to the wonderful world of cyberdating. All the above examples are quite welldocumented. It's not manifestations of grumpiness, paranoia or rejected lovers.

Dillon
01-17-2008, 08:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by PeopleSmoks

Just a few hours after telling her it would not be good for her to come here first, I receive a letter from "Olga #1" followe by a letter from "a travel agency" with all the prices and the person to send my WU payment to.....

Dear Sir Bob.

You are disturbed by the manager of travel agency Natalia Adushkina.

Due to the request of Ms.Olga Vedernikova we send you the information about
the tour from Russia to USA.

The full package of documents will be made out 12-14 days.

Foreign passport - 97 Euros
Tourist visa for a month, one entry - 141 Euros
Medical card - 40 Euros
Turn tickets - 603 Euros

TOTAL: 881 Euros

PAYMENT INFO:

You can make payment through fast and safe system
of remittances " Western Union " or " Money Gram " and here my full data
for payment of documents:

NAME: NATALIA
SURNAME: ADUSHKINA
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
CITY: SERNUR
ADDRESS: PETROVA STREET, 36

For reception of payment your full name and a surname and also your
full home address is required
to me and also after transfer of money in bank to you will inform
confidential number MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) and it also
is required to me for reception of money.

I shall wait from you payment up to November, 1 (Thursday) 2007.


I can offer for Ms. Olga Vedernikova the best
air flight for November, 12, 2007.



With best regards.

................................................


Travel Agency " T R A V E L M A S T E R "

Russia, Sernur, Petrova street, 36

Official site: www.travel-master.narod.ru

E-mail: travel-master@mail.ru

Believe it or not, the website actually exists and the e-mail address is the one posted on the site. The site is in Russian of course!!![8]

I think I'l send that 803 euros pronto!!!!![:o)]

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ROBINHOOD
01-17-2008, 03:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by ham


quote:DOES ANYONE THINK THAT ANY OF THE GIRLS ARE REAL? AND GENUINE LOOKING FOR LOVE? I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO UKRIANE AND WAS GOING TO SAVE UP TO GO IN MARCH HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT JIMS WEBSITE WHO BLACKLISTED UALADYS AND RECONMENDS OTHERS!

1 beware of sites running black AND gold lists at the same time. True, they say agencies on the "black" list are there because they are bad, and that agencies on "gold" lists are there just because they are good.
The site you mention oftentimes posts information about third parties, then amends, retracts or even deletes such information according to back stage dealing, blackmail and other fine business tactics. I ask: if they are only brave crusaders spreading truth to the benefit of the public, why do they often amend or take back their statements? There is money in the MOB business, and someone is making it right now. Fine if you pay for a service; a fraud if you are their sock puppet.

2 Some women are legitimate, but most are novelty seekers, perpetually undecided or scammers (whether in person or by proxy ). Many scammers are men or translators pulling the strings of fake or left over profiles. However, this is common to the WWW/LD dating scene IN GENERAL.

ROBINHOOD
01-17-2008, 03:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by ham

[quote]DOES ANYONE THINK THAT ANY OF THE GIRLS ARE REAL? AND GENUINE LOOKING FOR LOVE? I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO UKRIANE AND WAS GOING TO SAVE UP TO GO IN MARCH HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT JIMS WEBSITE WHO BLACKLISTED UALADYS AND RECONMENDS OTHERS!

HI THERE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I GOT A REPLY TO MY LETTER TO THE GIRL BEEN WRITNG TO I ASKED FOR PROOF SHE WAS REAL SHE SAID SHE WAS OFFENDED BY ME ASKING BUT SAYS SHE SENT SOME BABY PHOTOS BUT I HAVENT RECEIVED THEM YET. MY GUT SAYS ITS ALL A CON? DOES ANYONE RECONMEND AN AGENCY AT LEAST WHERE YOU CAN SWOP ADDRESS DETAILS WHAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IN UALADYS AND I WORTE A LETTER TO THERE COMPLAINTS DEPARTMENT SAYING THEY ARE RUNNING A SCAM AND WANT MY MONEY BACK I CAN DREAM!

swede
01-17-2008, 03:51 PM
Babyphotos aren't evidence of anything at all, except that some people once were babies.

ham
01-17-2008, 06:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by swede

Babyphotos aren't evidence of anything at all, except that some people once were babies.


and who's telling anyone the baby in the picture is the intended person?

swede
01-17-2008, 07:20 PM
Sorry, didn't express myself clearly. I believed, that this was implied, in what I wrote.

Any of you cyberspace guys have any suggestions of how to identify yourself through a mail, without actually giving the reciever admittance to your e-mail password, bank account etc. I once sent a copy of the first page of my passport to a lady, not worrying too much about what she could do with this information.

Even if I like conspiracy theories, it hasn't yet made me totally paranoid. But I'm not very informed on the technical possibilities of con-artists.

PeopleSmoks
01-17-2008, 08:00 PM
Hey guys! I totally agree with the baby pics deal. All anyone has to do is download a few pics of a cute kid and say, "That's me!" Definitely no guarantee of how real the person you're writing to really is. I can't see any way of verifying a person's identity over the internet without giving personal info. Thus the crap shoot!!!

The closest you can get is IF she gives you a last name and address, and you do the rose delivery and have her pic taken. Even that only proves she was at that address at the delivery time. It's better than a baby pic (which means absolutely nothing), but it still doesn't prove she isn't a scammer, pro-dater or gold-digger.

When in doubt, and if you seriously see a possible future with a girl you might consider going a step further than the rose delivery and have a background check done? However, that's also usually done thriugh a company you only know via the net as well, so it's still a crap shoot!

Bottom line is that even if the girl is real, there's NO way of knowing her intentions until you're married, have kids, and die of old age without her filing for divorce!!!

As for "Jim's lists", I have a slight problem with it because he also promotes other sites. He could be a real guy who is trying to perform a service, but I've heard stories that he cruises the net looking for girls and agencies, writes to girls and agencies threatening that he'll put them on his blacklist if they don't pay up? Two sides of the coin... flip it and take your chances.

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ham
01-17-2008, 08:31 PM
quote: Sorry, didn't express myself clearly. I believed, that this was implied, in what I wrote.

I was addressing the main topic.
Over the internet one can be certain of...nothing.
http://www.geocities.com/a280872/damn-photoshop-online-queen.jpg

and it is true: a successful marriage happens when one dies and is still married, although some online braggarts want you to think that their 2, 3, 6 years MOB marriage IS a success.

PeopleSmoks
01-17-2008, 09:54 PM
Hey ham, I checked your link, and I think that's Olya, a 22 yo who was madly in love with me and wanted to be with me desperately! All I had to do was send her something like $1200 for the usual travel expemses![8D]

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ham
01-18-2008, 06:11 AM
quote:Originally posted by PeopleSmoks

Hey ham, I checked your link, and I think that's Olya, a 22 yo who was madly in love with me and wanted to be with me desperately! All I had to do was send her something like $1200 for the usual travel expemses![8D]

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this just proves the point, as three other men on another forum claimed s-he was madly in love with each of them...
[:o)][B)]:D

ROBINHOOD
01-18-2008, 12:20 PM
HI THERE YES I KNOW BABY PHOTOS ARE NOT PROOF I SENT HER A REPLY LETTER SAYING SHE SHOULD UNDERSTAND ITS NATURAL TO BE SCEPTICAL SHE SAID SHE CANT BELIEVE I WROTE THESE THINGS ASKING FOR PROOF, I DONT KNOW LIES AND PEOPLE MAKING MONEY IT MESSES WITH YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU ARE ONLY BEING HONEST SHE WORKS IN SCHOOLS SHE GAVE ME THE NUMBERS OF THE SCHOOLS SHE WORKS AT SHE SAYS THEY DONT HAVE NAMES AND SHE HAS SENT ME 16 PHOTOS OF FAMILY BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OF THEM IM NOT SURE HOW YOU RECEIVE THEM ANYWAY I MEAN YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO PAY FROM THEM WITH A PHOTO CREDIT ACCOUNT? DOES ANYONE KNOW. SO DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A DESCENT COMPANY I MEAN JIMS GOLD LIST ARE KIEV CONNECTIONS ELENAS ETC BUT I LOKED AT KIEV CONNECTIONS AND SOME OF THEM BEEN ON THERE 3 YEARS AS IT SAYS THE AGE DATE AND DATE OF BIRTH ARE WRONG! AND THE GIRL WHO WAS WRTITNG TO ME SAYS COME AND SEE ME TO PROVE SHE IS REAL ALOT OF MONEY JUST TO GO OVER TO BE DISSAPOINTED. IS ANYONE GOING OVER TO UKRAINE SOON TO FIND A NICE GIRL ANYONE HAVING ANY SUCCESS! TAKE CAR GUYS

ham
01-18-2008, 04:17 PM
quote: Thanks once again, Gus. This time your impeccable timing f**ked up my poll. Oh well, ...

a girl being "real " only means very little, but what would you know about:
1 her identity
2 her intentions
3 the fact she has not a live-in boyfriend
4 it still might be hairy Boris who will have a girlfriend talk to you, or meet you for five dollars; agencies are known for hiring ringers for that purpose.

I was scammed by a real woman.

swede
01-18-2008, 07:31 PM
Cit Ham:

"I was scammed by a real woman."


As was I.

A lovely, sweet, intelligent, humouristic girl, with a black hole, where her morals should have been. A black hole filled with visions of swimming pools, big cars, fashion clothes, laptop PCs and other lifesaving devices for the glamour seeker.

I didn't want my life to be an unending strife for a still bigger swimmingpool, and the way to it paved with lies and deceits.

I quit, before it was too late.

Bill4u
01-18-2008, 08:30 PM
FYI, Elenas Models is a pretty good site, most of the ladies are honest, they try hard to remove scammers, I have had 2 removed myself, but most are honest. Most are real too. You may be disappointed because the ladies do not all look like 'PlayBoy' models, and the service is a little expensive, but I think it is the best. And the ladies won't hesitate to tell you that you are too old for them, just being honest with you I guess...hmmm, The search engine is the best I think, sign up and see what happens. I think the cost was worth it for sure. Bill

swede
01-18-2008, 08:52 PM
How do you substantiate your proposal that most of these women are honest?

Or is it a qualified guess?

Being real, maybe. But real is not the same as honest, as some of us have learned the hard way.

The general experience is, that a cyber-dating based relationship needs as long time to prove itself, as it takes to make a green card permanent. After that you can maybe relax your guard and start hoping.

Do you have this background experience?

PeopleSmoks
01-19-2008, 12:27 AM
quote:SHE HAS SENT ME 16 PHOTOS OF FAMILY
And??? Scammers don't have families? I received family photos from the "Olga" who wanted me to send her travel money so she could come to the US to meet my family because according to her, it's apparently a "Russian tradition" for a 28 yo girl to fly half way around the world to a strange land to meet the family of a guy she only knows via e-mails. So family pics only means that the girl in the pics has a family and nothing more.

I've heard more good than bad about Elena's Models, but it's on Jim's goldlist, which doesn't impress me. To quote myself...

quote:As for "Jim's lists", I have a slight problem with it because he also promotes other sites. He could be a real guy who is trying to perform a service, but I've heard stories that he cruises the net looking for girls and agencies, writes to girls and agencies threatening that he'll put them on his blacklist if they don't pay up? Two sides of the coin... flip it and take your chances.

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Suckered
01-19-2008, 04:27 AM
There's a guy that lives in Ukraine that knows a girl that works in one of ualadys offices. He says "word is that the girls that work there churn out letters in place of the girls that sign up. They scare the ladies and threaten them not to try to contact the guys by attempting to contact them using other agencies etc".

ham
01-19-2008, 07:34 AM
quote:they try hard to remove scammers,

well, Elena P. popularized the "antiscam" item, but people ought to know there is no such thing as an "Elena agency": it is a NETWORK acting as storefront for many independent agencies, some of which operated on the side under their own name.
The network takes care of the household name, ads, buying space on forums, etc.
How would mysterious Elena personally vet tens of thousands of profiles from eight time zones, from her abode in Australia (or wherever she's from now )?
They spend big in ads and made a name.
The rest -I think- is what any other big, junk, networked agency can offer.
There are reports of scammers within the network, but that is just what happens in the industry.
I remember a debate on a old forum in which it looked like Elena (or whoever was posting under her alias ) ignored that one agency they represented at the time showcased underage girls like 16yo.
Pay the fee, abide by very few rules and join the network; pay the fee and buy a "column" on a forum...
It isn't by chance agencies removed from one network for suspicious activity soon join another, maybe under a different name.
Short: let's not mistake the glossy "household slogans" for reality, otherwise fast food would just look fantastic like the ads on TV.
They do use fraudulent/misleading testimonials as well, much as others do.


quote:I received family photos

let's not forget what photoshop can do as well...

PeopleSmoks
01-19-2008, 09:56 AM
quote:let's not forget what photoshop can do as well...
No ham, they're real pics. But if you read further, my point is that scam artists have families too. A photo with mom, dad and granny doesn't prove a girls intentions.


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brunods
01-21-2008, 11:35 PM
Ahhhh I knew they wouldn't let me go so easilly so another girl who I spoke with long time ago and send me the last letter saying she was leaving the agency wrote me again! Seems even thought she didn't give a **** about me and barely wrote me at all she has great feelings! WOW I'm impressed! (NOT!)

IRINA S. #1893

Hello dear, Bruno ! <-- Note the space after the name, it is because of copy/paste, every other ! in the e-mail has no spaces. :) -->

How are you doing? I hope you are Ok. Do you remember me? I miss you so much. <-- YEAH RIGHT! -->

Then all the bull**** from every e-mail how the world is beautiful, the birds sing, the dogs get in shape in the park, etc. I think I am starting to figure out where these texts come from! The source of all these texts. I shall reveal once I am sure and can prove it.

This girl is the one I said is a ninfomaniac. The thing is, unlike Nadja, this girl letters seemed to me that were written by different people, I think 2 or 3 different persons. This letter is not according to the original pattern on the first letters I received or the last. :)

The last part: "I wait your letter very soon." comes after really perfect english. The person who wrote it knew that it would throw a bit of "foreigness" into the letter. It is strategically placed for a reason, to make people feel the letter was written by the girl. ;)

About Nadja, she was not a hairy guy answering the letters. I was in touch with 2 other man who were also corresponding with her. One of them spoke with her on the phone and saw her on the webcam. So yeah she was real. As I said before, I think she's just looking for a novel to fill up her loneliness like many online addicts do.

Anyway my offline ventures are paying off. I might have found my girl, she's the best friend of a waitress from a restaurant where I usually go. And she's hooked up on me, the other girl just told me they talk about me a lot and she really likes me, that I should take some initiative. So today she called up her best friend and passed the phone to me... oh man she's really hooked! :P and I like her too so.. good perpective. ;)

Anyway for you guys my offline advice is to be open minded and give a chance into meeting people. I learned that I might meet this girl who I don't want something with but she has friends.. and maybe a nice best friend! Arrange a go out in group and you might get your surprise! Then I guess the rest is not being afraid to tell the girl you like her and would like to go out with her. I learned that if you invite a girl for something like a walk in the park in the afternoon the girl is much more likely to give you a chance than going out at night or having dinner/lunch.

One girl told me she never accepts invitations for dinner or going out at night because that means the guy wants to bang her. :P

I hope I gave you guys a light. As for me, I don't have a girlfriend for 5 years now so it has been looooooonnnnnggggggg!! :P

Wish me luck! :)

skipped
01-22-2008, 04:10 AM
I've been reading a few post recently and noticed a few comments of interest. One that was interesting to me was someone that had visited the agency and make a few responses regarding letters being written by a male employee (I am assuming he was an employee). I have worked in the real estate industry for over ten years now. Many times I enter other real estate agencies and will be there for hours. I see and listen to realtors in these random offices for several hours but many of times have no idea what they are talking about. Many of them have R.E. contracts on their desks that would lead me too believe that they are writing contracts, but I know that is not the case since the real estate market is shot. Now everyone in the office speaks english (they probably write it and speak better than I actually). But when leaving, if I was approached and asked about the activities taking place in that office I might be lucky enough to explain my activities while in that place of business. Maybe if I'm lucky! And everything in that establishment took place in a laungauge which I'm familiar.
Now maybe the gentleman in the prior posting speaks very good Ukrainian/Russian(don't know but that would add much more validity). But for me to walk into another business in a foreign country were everyone speaks a different launguage, well, seems to me would make it fairly difficult to draw conclusions about anything that is happening in that situation. But I was not there (haven't been there yet and he has!) so I am not sure what the situation at the time might have been to let him make this conclusion.
Please understand that I do not think that all the letters are legit!! Writing certain girls for sometime it is only obvious that either someone else is writing or that they hand in a single draft for all next days letters. Like Brunods post earlier about the park, ice-cream, cold, skinny dogs running wild, all that seems like something that can be posted over and over. Not to mention no direct answers to your questions (that seems like a huge sign to me). It seems like these "generic" letters start with a little bit of peronalization than suddenly start a new paragraph about the weather, history of the Ukraine, yadi-yada.
I was writing a gal in the past that sent me photos of her when she was a child, teenager, etc. She was very nice, answered all questions told me all about her day, weekends, and her letters never seemed scripted. She wanted me to send pictures of my childhood as well, but I have no clue where those might have ended-up. Unfortunately, I stopped writing her for some reason. She actually sent a me few more letters asking why I stopped writing her but like I never responded. About a months later I noticed that she pulled her profile. If she was making big bucks, or a pro-scammer, I don't think she would have removed her profile. Honestly, I'm not to happy with the way I handled her requested as well.

PeopleS if your still out there!?!? Dont know exactly when I'll get over there. My plan is definitely before the end of the year. But I said the same thing last year.

brunods
01-22-2008, 04:51 AM
skipped I had the same thing... had this girl who was just amazing she wrote me everyday without failing, she had good english didn't need translator, it was all very personal she answered all my questions. Then one day she met someone else and sent me a letter telling me so, which I guess its normal but at the time I was disappointed anyway my credits ended and 2 weeks later she came back saying it didn't go well and asking for forgiveness that she misses me a lot begging that i talk to her again as it is her birthday wish (she was having her birthday on that date). I ignored it since I had no credits.. about 1-2 weeks after her profile was removed by her request. Never heard of her again. At the time I did not know what I know now and even though some of the things were real, the pattern was obvious, she did not try to get me to visit her, had all those "amazing" stories, etc. And somehow ALL the girls seem to be in University. Up to know I think I haven't met a single girl who wasn't in university and had to finish up her studies. I can see this as very convenient because otherwise if the girl was free and ready to move out, it would be much more likely men would go there get them. :)

Anyway I am going to check again these older letters, they were on the time where UALadys was still ConfidentialConnections! ;)
Gonna put it all in a word document to compare with current letters.

Will post about it later. :)

brunods
01-22-2008, 05:41 AM
I compiled a list of all e-mail titles and dates.
There are some strange abnormalities note the exact "!!!" repetition in the beggining then later the pattern shifts and so do the conversations. "hope to hear from you" is probably the most used sentence in almost every e-mail of every lady. :)

I suggest everyone does this list with date + title and post for comparison, the idea is to match patterns near the same dates. Since there is no lady ID or text from the conversations, I think its ok for us to do this list. ;)

2006-06-06 - Only for you
2006-06-07 - Hello <Name>!!!
2006-06-10 - have a nice weekend!!!
2006-06-10 - IT?S ME AGAIN!
2006-06-21 - hope to hear from you soon!!!
2006-06-22 - happy to hear from you :)
2006-06-23 - i am so sorry!!!
2006-06-23 - Have a nice day!
2006-06-26 - i am so glad to hear from you
2006-06-27 - you are a wonderful person!!!
2006-06-27 - Re: Re: you are a wonderful person!!!
2006-06-28 - Happy to hear from you again!!!
2006-06-29 ? i wish you were with us yesterday
2006-07-01 ? Re: Hello again
2006-07-03 ? Love is?
2006-07-03 ? one more letter for <Name>!
2006-07-05 ? Love is?
2006-07-06 ? One more joke for <Name>!
2006-07-08 ? Telephone
2006-07-10 - ?.
2006-07-11 ? Answers?
2006-07-11 ? Childhood
2006-07-12 ? Thank you for the story!
2006-07-12 ? Religion
2006-07-14 ? That was very serious!
2006-07-14 ? Someday?
2006-07-17 ? I liked your thoughts;)
2006-07-18 ? I will take care of you;)
2006-07-19 ? Let?s compare?
2006-07-19 ? Wow!
2006-07-20 ? Wow!
2006-07-22 ? Wow!
2006-07-22 ? Wow!
2006-07-22 ? One more letter for you!
2006-07-22 ? Question
2006-08-01 ? Are you ready?
2006-08-01 ? ??????
2006-08-01 ? I have come back;)))!
2006-08-01 ? Talk
2006-08-01 ? How many letters!!!
2006-08-01 ? You last letter
2006-08-01 ? Thank you!
2006-08-06 ? dear <Name>, how can I forget about you?
2006-08-06 ? joke for you :)
2006-08-07 ? Hi!
2006-08-07 ? Nice joke!
2006-08-08 ? Hi!
2006-08-08 ? No disappointment!
2006-08-11 ? Hi!
2006-08-12 ? ;)
2006-08-12 ? No disappointment!
2006-08-13 ? Hi
2006-08-13 ? No disappointment!
2006-08-14 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-15 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-16 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-17 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-19 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-23 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-26 ? For my <Name>!
2006-08-30 ? I like you;)
2006-08-31 ? I like you;)
2006-09-05 ? Conversation
2006-09-07 ? Conversation
2006-09-07 ? One more task
2006-09-10 ? Hello
2006-09-10 ? One more task
2006-09-20 ? I need to tell you smth
2006-09-23 ? Re: Re: I need to tell you smth
2006-09-25 ? I need to tell you smth
2006-09-27 ? I need to tell you smth
2006-10-01 ? For you!
2006-10-11 ? LETS TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER
2006-10-13 ? let?s be together in my dreams on my birthday
PROFILE REMOVED

skipped
01-23-2008, 01:48 AM
Hey Brunods, I noticed the similiarities with the exclamations marks but honestly all my letters are titled much differently. Mostly, I have : Hello my dear (name) or "hi" or "hello (name)". But I will say this, almost every girl that I write to at one particular town(agency) begins their letters to me that way. Every other town(agency) they usually have a title related to my past letter. So either someone is getting rich and lazy at that agency or the girls (or scammers) leave them blank and someone takes the liberty to automatically drop in the "hi's", "hello my dear's", or the simple "hello's". Not sure really.

PeopleSmoks
01-23-2008, 02:11 AM
quote:But I will say this, almost every girl that I write to at one particular town(agency) begins their letters to me that way. This is part of the problem with trying to tell a scammer from a real girl. First of all, I said before that real or scammer, the girl is trying to "sell" herself to prospective victims or in the case of the real girl, a possible mate. Both will look at ads that others have posted and assume that is what western men want to hear. It's only natural for "real" Olga to say she likes to cook, keep a cozy home etc. since that is what she believes we want. Why would a real girl or a scammer tell you they're only interested in your money, a green card or a swimming pool?

Now, throw into the mix the agency translators. Let's face it, they'll add some stuff or omit other things from time to time, whether intentionlly or by accident. Also figure they write so many letters a day, both legitimate and scam that they blurr together in content. It's like car ads. Ford, GM, Toyota, Mitsubishi all have cars with 5 star crash ratings, driver's side airbags, antilock brakes etc. There's just some stuff that's standard. Again, that's what makes it hard to figure out the scam sometimes, and especially when dealing with an agency with excusive communication rights to a girl. You really can't be sure.:(

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PeopleSmoks
01-23-2008, 02:20 AM
Oh, the girl I'm going to see starts every letter with, "Thank you for your letter. It means so much to me when I get your letters". Most of the letters I write, I don't bother to write a new "subject". It's usually RE: 'whatever she wrote'.

It's the content of the letters that shows if it's a copied letter, and that's a pain in the @ss to paste them all here, and a bigger pain in the @ss to read them all![:0]

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Goddiejens
01-23-2008, 08:02 AM
Hi peoplesmoke,

I am just putting in live experiences in "ruladies.com my visit in krasnodar city".

My strong good advice to all guys who want to date a Russian or Ukrainian lady via ualadies.com or ruladies.com:

Guys,

don't pay any mail and don't send out any mail!!! Girls or ladies do not need to stick to their words and the reality can be so very different from all nice sugar words and how you see these words, so be simply smart and leave such waste of money for expensive correspondence which only feeds the agency!!!

Catch a flight and fly yourself over there! Date one lady online some days before you come to the place in Russia or Ukraine. The manager will send you the office address and phone number and ask a scan of your passport with visa due to the rules. Then you simply go to this office in the afternoon because most ladies only have time to come to the first official intro meeting in the evening from 6 pm, and the translators arrange that by phone before. You only need to sign a fair agreement with the office, this is not an issue!

Save your money to bring in some sweets, all ladies like that. My one yesterday was happy about a brochure about nice places in the cities of the country where I come from. Leave also some chocolates to the translators in the office, they can be helpful as we all know. I asked them and got to know that they translate more than 30 love messages every working day there, some work from 10 am to 7 pm or longer. And they are not mafia, they are normal people like you and me.

Goddiejens from Krasnodar/Russia

ham
01-23-2008, 10:09 AM
quote: don't pay any mail and don't send out any mail!!! Girls or ladies do not need to stick to their words and the reality can be so very different from all nice sugar words and how you see these words, so be simply smart and leave such waste of money for expensive correspondence which only feeds the agency!!!

Catch a flight and fly yourself over there! Date one lady online some days before you come to the place in Russia or Ukraine. The manager will send you the office address and phone number and ask a scan of your passport with visa due to the rules. Then you simply go to this office in the afternoon because most ladies only have time to come to the first official intro meeting in the evening from 6 pm, and the translators arrange that by phone before. You only need to sign a fair agreement with the office, this is not an issue!

Exactly, plus you have no guarantee the girl in the pictures is the person writing to you...

skipped
01-23-2008, 06:11 PM
Well put PeopleS! And I think that GoddieJen just re-inforced your statement quite well. If they are writing 30 letters a day things would get confused, blurred, and integrated. This would make sense why some of the letters seem very similar to other letters you might be receiving from the same agency(town).

Prometheus
01-23-2008, 07:42 PM
Forum won't let me write in code, or post photos! Eustace Haney has a new Lolita! She's HOT FOR HANEY!!!

Prometheus
01-23-2008, 08:07 PM
It's been a slow winter around Hooterville for our dear friend, Eustace Haney. But just when he was ready to call it quits, along came the lovely Marina P, who is HOT FOR HANEY!
http://photo.uadreams.com/photos/0/3978/920299_35962.jpg

Marina P. #3978
Age 22 years old

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY JANE R. FOR MARINA P.

Hello Eustace,

Though we have never met, I feel as if I know you well.

I knew from the start that it was something very special, you touched my heart and would not let go.

Our relations should be bright and romantic, full of tenderness and care of each other, because we both knew that cost of love, because we are both single people and looking for our love.

You entered my soul, and raised all magic feelings inside.

I look forward to meet you! it's truly seems as if you are a part of me, and I can't wait till you write me back

I am Marina. I am pretty girl who is looking for its true love. I am romantic, kind-hearted and sympathatic.

Today I read your profile and my heart began beating faster because you earned my attention.

I am rather passionate woman and I don?t think that you can stay cold and indifferent before my deep and hot eyes which are calling you.

I will be devoted to my soul mate from the first days of our romantic story.

I will make every day to be like a holiday for our love?s sake.

Cooking for beloved is the most pleasant thing.

Kissing your sweetheart can?t be compared with any yummy dessert.

If you write me, you will discover the depth of my beautiful soul.

I will open you all secrets of my tender woman?s heart and let it to belond to you.

Do you want to be my Master? ;)My Sweetheart and my Soul mate?
I am sure that you are there with the same intentions: to find your second half and to feel happiness. Am I right?

Well, if you write me, I will be on the top of the heavens. and you will lose a lot if you don?t write to such beautiful young lady like me.

With the best wishes and future hopes

Marina.

:)I am sure Eustace would love to be her Master, but only if she will teach Lisa Douglas that "Cooking for beloved is the most pleasant thing.":)

PeopleSmoks
01-23-2008, 10:35 PM
Hey Goddiejens! Yeah, I read your other post. It seems that I've been hearing similar stuff froma few other guys about keeping the e-mail exchange short and visiting the girl as soon as possible. It's a bit of a contradiction to what I heard just last year when I first became interested in finding a bride through the FSU/MOB route, but as with anything, things change.

My personal experience has been that scammers simply don't want to read the words, "I think we should meet, I can take my vacation and fly to see you next week." It really screws up their timetable for their scam set-up!

I would imagine a real girl, with serious intentions, would welcome a meeting just to get the crap out of the way and find out whether or not the two of you really are compatible as long as you make it clear that you don't intend to stay with her, but will have your own flat or hotel room.

And not to be confused with a low-life "sex tourist", should the two of you hit it off, and she has desires to "spend some time alone" with you, you have a place to go. Let's all be honest before judging my last statement. How many of us have had sex with a girl that we weren't married to? If you're only going there to have sex with a girl, you're a sex tourist and as far as I'm concerned as much of a scumbag as any scammer. But if you're there to meet the girl you honestly are considering for a serious relationship, and sparks fly, I think that's somewhat normal.

skipped, I don't really keep track of all my posts, but I remember a rant I had about "ghost" writers at agencies and money. And even if the girl is real, yeah, I can see how an overworked translator (8, 10, 12 hours a day) would just start blending stuff together. As I said, my girl pretty much always opens with, "Thank you for your new letter. Thank you for making my day brighter.", or something along those lines and my openning reply is very similar too, so it doesn't mean that much.

As I said, it's when the body of the letter is exactly the same as another letter that someone else receives, you know for sure it's a form letter, and you will usually only get those in the first few letters (3, 4, or 5). After that, the scammer figures you're on the hook and will now devote some time to you, thus you will get personalized letters.

Prometheus, good to hear from you and Eustace. I see admin said it works, but I can't even bring up the quote box.

Quote: "Though we have never met, I feel as if I know you well."

"You look familiar. Do you know any Hungarian women?"

Quote: "because we both knew that cost of love..."

"It's $75 USD per month baby!"

Quote: "I am Marina. I am pretty girl who is looking for its true love. I am romantic, kind-hearted and sympathatic."

"I'm Boris and I'm the guy with smelly armpits who will be fleecing you..."

Quote: "If you write me, you will discover the depth of my beautiful soul."

"My hag wife wants more Prada and a friggin' swimming pool, so I'll do my best to give you an erection with the stuff I write..."

Quote: "Do you want to be my Master? My Sweetheart and my Soul mate?"

"Hahaha, like any real Ukrainian woman would allow some western slob to be her 'Master'... hahahaha!!!! I crack myself up sometimes!!!"

Quote: "Well, if you write me, I will be on the top of the heavens. and you will lose a lot if you don?t write to such beautiful young lady like me."

"Boy I hope you're as dumb as I look so I get get that hag a swimming pool, otherwise my life will be a living hell!"



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Goddiejens
01-24-2008, 08:41 AM
Hello guys,

I am really going to give up here in the FSU. As I explained in the other thread (Krasnodar) the habits how to get in touch and come closer are extremely different in the eastern culture. No chance to come close to a lady here within some days! Only exception, the lady is a not serious person... .

Accommodation and food is as expensive here as in Netherland or Belgium, so for holiday I have not chosen here a cheap destination. Better to go to southern countries. It is much cheaper and people are easier to handle.

The agency also fools people like me because now I dated a friend of one of the translators ... so what can come out of it? Nothing, indeed.

Well, I also spent some hours only in the office to see how they work. 3 translators typing around all the time. They use a translation program and only improve and correct some parts of the text. Of course they check that no personal information passes through, so these translators also filter everything! And they do not call ladies whenever they start a new text. Every 30 minutes they go out to smoke a cigarette and then they do 1 or 2 phonecalls, may be in this way because they do not want me to listen in.

I guess that the strategy is coordinated with the lady. This means that the lady would meet the guy in case that he comes to the town, all the other stuff is handled by the translator. This may happen in many cases. Marina told me that she has an own pc or uses an internetcafe, so she sends her mail to the office and they translate and forward to the client... . Natasha has no pc and no camera and does not spend money in internetcafes for sure because her job does not leave so much money to her ... in her case her friend the translator Diana arranges everything and Natasha follows all the advices given her by Diana. May also well be that a translator receives a small bonus when bringing in a new well looking lady to push the business a bit more... .

@ peoplesmoke

Due to my experience with scammers they are also prepared in case that someone wants to meet the lady. In such case, they try to catch money for travel expenses because for sure they say that they would come to meet you in Moscow or whatever nice town because their small town is too dirty or whatever ... they only find "reasons" to make you transfer money to them ... it is all about money at last and if someone is stupid enough to send the 500 or 800 dollars he would lose them for very sure and never see the lady of the nice pics ... .

Well, what you say about your own room and such stuff ... you only get the visa for Russia in case that you have confirmed officially that you booked a room there. And going to Ukraine also means that you must book a hotel room there. No lady receives a foreign man after a 30 minutes official meeting in the office of any agency in her apartment!

Well, sex is part of human life, PeopleSmoks. But if a small kiss or taking someone in the arms or touching the shoulder of the lady just is forbidden by all norms of good attitude between friends ... then for me the culture is much much too different to be accepted by me. I cannot spend many weeks here to meet a lady everyday one hour and feel in the second meeting that I have absolutely no priority for her, sorry. I feel a bit treaten like **** here!!!

Do I need that? No, this will not happen again to me, guys.

Goddiejens

swede
01-24-2008, 11:55 AM
Cit goddiejens:

"Accommodation and food is as expensive here as in Netherland or Belgium, so for holiday I have not chosen here a cheap destination"

The authorities in FSU are rather flexible about this, as long as you have some references. If you meet a REAL woman, she should be able to help you out (though this is ofcourse still no guarentee, she's not a pro-dater). Private lodgings are maybe 10% of hotels.

"Do I need that? No, this will not happen again to me, guys."


Good for you. But you have helped the next guy in the chain with your evidence. Good luck.

PeopleSmoks
01-25-2008, 02:50 AM
Guys! I know this thread is about UALadys, but I just have to share this profile with you that I found on Amazing-Women.com. It has to be THE most honest ad profile I have ever seen from an obious money wh@re!
http://www.amazing-women.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?id=am9452&p=11
"Hey guys, here's what I want, and look at what I'm giving in return!!!"
This ad is so darned straight up and honest that I think I'm in love!!!! Hey ham, she even comes within another sentence or two of asking if you have a swimming pool!!! She's obviously looking to become the well kept concubine of some rich guy and actually says it more or less!:D:D:D

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PeopleSmoks
01-25-2008, 02:52 AM
http://www.amazing-women.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?id=am9452&p=11


Name :
Aleksandra
ID :
9452
Date of birth :
Aug 23, 1970
Age :
37
Height :
5ft 2" (160 cm)
Weight :
105 lb (48 kg)
Hair color :
Light brown
Eyes color :
Aqua
Country :
Ukraine
City :
Gorlovka
Religion :
Orthodox
Marital status :
single
Children :
no
Smoke :
no
Profession :
engineer
Education :
first degree
English language :
middle level
About me

I love expensive clothes. My vital motto All that is done, all to the best! I am very optimistic, purposeful, and consequently am sure in the good future. I like to communicate with interesting people; to find out something new for myself. I dream about the strong, provided family and children. If I have enough money I would like to trade in machines a Ferrari, Benz
Hobbies and interests

I swim perfectly. I love small gorgeous souvenirs, soft toys, flowers and chocolate sweets,making new acquaintances and socializing with my friends and interesting people
Looking For Men Type

Need partner: 32 - 56 years old
First of all, I search for the friend, a spiritual and material support. It would be desirable, that he appeared the kind, cheerful and decent person. I'd love we have one for two LOVE. Or his care ? my love.

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brunods
01-26-2008, 06:07 AM
LOL I have laughed my ass out here!

Goddiejens do something for me, go to Poltava and meet Nadja! ;)
There are at least 3 of us here who were chatting with her, find out how real she is! lol

If you want to have good sex, find Irina, she's a ninfo!

Besides that I hope you get lucky and meet a nice woman. :)

Your report has been noted. I am going to Estonia in April and there I know I can meet women easilly and they are nice and not from any agency or "paid".
So I recommend you guys to go to Tallinn in Estonia. Or Riga in Latvia, very beautiful girls there. :)

swede
01-26-2008, 09:35 PM
I've been to Riga. It's absolutely not recommendable to go there except as a sex-tourist. But it is true, that the women in Latvia are attractive, and it's also true, that they know it.

Suckered
01-26-2008, 09:40 PM
Well guess what? Good things come in threes right? First Confidential Connections, then UAladies ..... now they are going to try UAdreams to see if they can escape the bad press that appears just below their heading on the Google search engine. So I guess that UADreams is the newest target for attack guys. Their notice of name change came today along with the names of my favorite cash cows....even my very favorite one Natalie U. that quit the CC site early last year. Maybe she is being used without her knowledge I would suppose.

brunods
01-26-2008, 09:57 PM
heheh my favorite ladies got moved but my old login does not work anymore. :)

This agency is such a mess!! :D

Hey I had an idea, lets donate to help UADreams.com! ;)
We become partners and buy stock from the company, what do you think?? heheheh at least we'd get some cash back! :P

imported_uljoh
01-26-2008, 10:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by Suckered

First Confidential Connections, then UAladies ..... now they are going to try UAdreams


Well, and more. They have stolen all the credits.
The credits which were on ualadys arent any more on uadreams.
So, you simply have to buy new credits, if you want to correspond with the lady of your dream.

Ok, you can initiate a free letter to a new lady, who you have not corresponded with before.

/ uljoh

dplacers
01-26-2008, 10:22 PM
I?ve been reading your postings for a while and wanted to tell you about my personal experience with UALADYS. I?m a USA citizen and I went to Ukraine in August of 2007 to meet with 2 ladies, one in Simferopol and one in Kremenchug. Both showed up, but only the one from Simferopol stayed with me for several days.

She was the girl I was writing to, but looked like 20 to 25 pounds lighter in reality, maybe too skinny. She was very nice, spoke some English and we went sightseeing around the coast in Crimea.

Based on that experience, I could say that these women are real. Whether they actually write the letters or not, I can?t say for sure but it seems that they don?t, based on some information I got recently. The girl from Simferopol didn?t know how to use computers, so if she wrote anything should have been on the phone to her translator. Regardless, I didn?t mind because she showed up and she stayed with me for several days and it appeared that she wanted to continue our communication. I was kind of disappointed with her looks and stopped emailing with her after I came back to the USA, but we had a relatively good time together.

The girl from Kremenchug was younger and she showed up but she met with me only for about 3 hours. Then she left and I didn?t hear from her while I was there. Nevertheless, I met people in the streets and parks in Kremenchug and had a good time, although no sex.

More recently, I contacted another girl, this one from another city. It happens that her parents moved to a country when they were under the Soviet Union and we share a second language. She gave me her phone number written in words in the language we share and we talked very recently. She confirmed to me that UALADYS? staff writes the letters themselves. I can?t give you more details because I don?t want to compromise her identity. But after she confirmed the rumors I?ve heard, I stopped writing to other girls from the site.

Overall, it looks like the girls are real and it?s kind of gamble to go and meet with them. By the way, I traveled on my own and have been before in Russia visiting Moscow and Siberia. A woman from Siberia, which I met for the very first time when I was there, stole my heart. I haven?t been scammed yet, in terms that I have never sent them money, but after 3 years of pursuing my love in the FSU, I?m still searching for it.

I?m planning to go back to Ukraine this year to meet another woman that speaks both of my languages. I will either meet with her or with this other girl that also speaks my second language. In conclusion, I think that UALADYS is in a gray area.

I?ve been fortunate because I?ve found women that speak my other language. I don?t regret my visit to Ukraine at all, but I?m accustomed to traveling overseas. It?s still a big challenge to go to any of these FSU countries. My plans eventually are to live in Ukraine or Russia for a season and get to know real women, but for doing that , I need somebody from there that will help me in the process. That?s what I?m trying to do right now.

For now, I can only wish you good luck!

ham
01-27-2008, 04:56 AM
quote:Based on that experience, I could say that these women are real.

You get there. Make a fuss that if you don't meet your model, you'll expose them worldwide. They heed your pressure. You meet the girl. You wine&dine her. In the end she's not interested; changed her mind; had cold feet; her aunt needs a liver transplant...She's back home soon in bed with Oleg and it turns out she was paid to give you the run around...with YOUR MONEY.
you are empty handed again.
Get it?
They MIGHT be real, but are they truly lovesick 1950-styled brides...or do they just play one on your tv screen while chat minutes keep rolling?
How would you know?
Throwing money at the problem is NOT the answer.

Suckered
01-27-2008, 05:07 AM
Throwing money at the problem is not the answer. EXAKALAKALY!!! yer right HAM. Look buds; Togeather we have beaten CC back into oblivion. We have beaten UAladys back into oblivion, and now it's UADreams turn to be beaten back. It is working lads. Whenever a stop-scammers heading appears below theirs on Google, we beat them and prevent their profits because the new potential suckers become enlightened. Time to turn attention to UADreams UADreams UADreams. NEW HEADING; UADreams!!

thatcrazy
01-27-2008, 02:06 PM
just go and meet like 20 girls... don't go with any kind of expectations.. and don't bother writing to anyone before hand..

If you're going to travel thousands of miles to go on blind dates then you might as well go on as many as you can while you're there.

Suckered
01-27-2008, 03:44 PM
You can still logon to the newest site UADreams/UkrainianDreams ex-UAladys with your existing logon and password. If it does'nt work just insert your email address in the space fro TROUBLE LOGGING ON and you will recieve a new password to use with your existing one. Hey guys; Do any of you send and recieve letters from Svetlana K.?,, because she just sent me another letter informing me that I can now contact her on this new site. I say SHE because like you I LIKE to think that it is SHE but I am fully aware that it can be sweaty ol' BORIS himself attempting to catch him a sucker from off the bottom!!! A SUCKER with some fresh cash that is.

PeopleSmoks
01-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Hey guys! I posted my thoughts on the "shotgun" method of FSU dating in another thread, but it takes the concept thatcrazy mentioned to a sligtly more calculated level:

1) Take out "free" memberships on as many sites as you can handle.
2) Browse the ads and pick your "favorites".
3) If you find one girl who knocks your socks off, take note of her city.
4) Review your other "favorites" on the other sites, their cities and match them to your #1 favorite and her city. Some sites allow a "city" search in their search engine, so it's pretty easy to do!
5) Figure out how much you want to spend, apply for paid membership to as many sites as you can afford and start fishing.
6) Be prepared to move quickly to go to that city for a real meeting.

You may find 20 or 30 girls on several different sites who all live within cab distance of a central location. Write to them. Get a "feel" for what they're really about, and set up a meeting with as many as possible for around the same dates. Airfare and accomodations when set up outside of agency "tours" is much cheaper, and you won't have to plane hop or bus from city to city. Just take note if you may need a translator for a few of your meetings.

The only thing that would suck cow pie juice is if you run into one girl while with another, but that can happen in your own backyard!

Okay, so you're thinking about how much all those paid memberships might cost? Let's say five sites at $50 per site is $250. Ad in aifare, which for me is around $1100 ($800 round trip international + $300 round trip internal flight), and accomodations for however long you plan to stay (for me, about $300). Now writing to 20 or thirty girls through UA would have already cost an arm and a leg at $75 a pop times 20 or 30 girls??? For $1650, you're there and "speed" dating your butt off already if that's what you want to do.[:p]:D[:o)]


Train returns

Suckered
01-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Looks like their new site UADreams has cancelled our existing credits so any money that ou spent at UAladys is LOST or I should say stole by their administration.

jake122969
01-27-2008, 06:17 PM
what a busy scumbag Steve Salvesen is

We are going to explain to you what has happened:
Unfortunately American part represented by CCUSA LLC and IISPP INC companies have been very irregular in fulfiling their financial obligations in relation to Ukrainian companies which do all job to provide service for you, dear clients!

The money meant for providing services come with a very big delay making our branches' work very difficult and sometimes even impossible. Isn't it upleasant to know that your lady received her birthday gift with the delay of two weeks?! Isn't it upleasant to find out that the branch you came to hadn't received the money for hotel reservation while you are on your way to Ukraine?

Negotations with CCUSA LLC company weren't a success. As a result 8 branches situated on the territory of Ukraine have decided to sever relations with CCUSA LLC company.

Poltava, Simferopol, Sumy, Kremenchug, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Donetsk, Lutsk are becoming an independent company creating their own web site.

Latest news: at the conclusion of preliminary negotiations CCUSA LLC promised to pay off debts of rendered services in the nearest future, whereof we gladly inform and voice a hope for civilized settlement of financial dispute.


So who is CCUSA LLC AND IISPP INC?


The history is that this agency was used to be known as Confidential Connections but they closed down around new year, probably around the same time where the number of reports about them having fake profiles etc. was really starting to grow. Members was then told that a new mangement company IISPP inc. and a new owner IISPP inc. has taken over the company and that the site would be rebranded as ualadys.com, ruladys.com etc.

I have done a little research about that statement using among other things some old cached pages at google and found a lot of top people still in the organization:

Steven Salvesen: Credited somewhere as founder but mostly just president/representative in United States for Confidential Connections. Now his role is not officially stated anywhere but welcome letters to ruladys.com is still signed Steve Salvesen, CCUSA LLC, and if you are paying something on their sites and want to use Western Union you are instructed to send payment to Steven Salvesen, New York. Steven is also known by the spamhaus project spamhaus registration of Andew Klimenko / Steven Salvesen / Victor Filin-Filinyuk

Thomas McKeveny: Office Manager in the New York office at Confidential Connections, now the General Manager of IISPP inc.

Yura Filin-Filinyuk: CEO of Ukraine branch at Confidential Connections and now CEO of Ukraine branch (ualadys.com). A Victor Filin-Filinyuk, old Ukraine Representative for Confidential Connections and maybe related to Yura ??? is also known by the spamhaus project spamhaus registration of registration of Andew Klimenko / Steven Salvesen / Victor Filin-Filinyuk

The last person named by spamhaus project, Andrew Klimenko, was the old CTO for Confidential Connections. I have found no link between him and new organization. There is a domain called digger.com.ua which points to ualadys.com and which are registered in Andrew Klimenkos name, but that can be from back at the time when he was CTO.

But besides that then bank statements still says CCUSA LLC (Confidential Connections USA I guess) when paying something on their sites. All in all it seems like their is still a tight connection between Confidential Connections and the new organization and if (because I only know what other people are saying) they were using fake profiles, writing letters themselves etc. at Confidential Connections then it's very unlikely that some of these top people were not fully aware of what was going on. Both IISPP inc. and CCUSA LLC are active according to the New York Department of State but besides Confidential Connections and now NNladys.com it's not possible to find references to any other business they are involved in. The footer on the sites btw states thate the owner is World Management International inc., Panama City, Panama but I have not been able to find anything about this company.


This guy was outed as a Russian date spammer scammer back in 2005

My what a busy scumbag Steven is.

Russian spam scammer of New York is outed.

spammed URL:
http://y.want-meet-you.com/

Redirecting to: www.confidentialconnections.com

Steven Salvesen a resident of New York.

From 2003


WHAT'S THIS SITE ABOUT?


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when you do get replies, you wonder where you went wrong. It's such a
waste of your time. If you are like me, my time is money. If I spend 2
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going to ask them on your first date to marry you, if you did they
would think you are crazy. So if you go out on 10 to 15 first dates
with different ladies in a year, its going to cost thousand's of
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that you really want a long term relationship and want to get married,
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Their contact information is listed as:

1-800-398-6050
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Their principals are listed in both New York and the Ukraine as
follows:

Salvesen Steven
President (USA)
212-619-6800
800-398-6050
372 Broadway
New York city, NY 10013

and:

Victor Filin-Filinyuk
President (Ukraine)
011-380-572-456730
Freedom sq. 7, room 255,
Kharkov, Ukraine, 61022

Current telephone holder is:

Neame deleted probably a new owner
29 Orchard St
Manhattan, NY 10002
(212) 334-4114

realbachelors.com = [ 65.39.229.213 ]
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Registrar: NameSecure.com
Domain: REALBACHELORS.COM
Created on 01-17-2003
Expires on 01-17-2007
Administrative Contact:
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Phone: 2126190100

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days

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212 619 0100

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ham
01-27-2008, 07:03 PM
quote: Our mailing campaign is sent to 20,000,000 people on the Internet.

Yea, right...
[:o)]:D[B)]
Too bad these "spammers-for-hire" rarely send out any mail.
If they do, as much as 8/10 of their addresses are invalid.
Add spam filters and uninterested people (now how can they KNOW how many emails belong to legal, marriage age WOMEN of the race/denomination sought by men?! Barney sure won't be interested in Kafeera, 300 pounds African muslim woman who is 56yo...).
You pay, then they tell you "too bad. All other clients got mesmerizing responses, but hey...you were among the 1% who didn't...".
If all this hogwash about "0,5 to 1% guaranteed response" were true, they'd be raking in sales THEMSELVES, not offering the service to you, right? Good old "secret forex traditing scheme of the wealthy. Turn $10 into $1.000 literally overnight. Guaranteed. Yours for $9.99".



quote: Now
were talking about ladies, who are making the first move to meet you,
you don't have to write and chase them down. Let the ladies choose
you!!!! YOU JUST PICK AND CHOOSE !!!!!

sure...
[:o)][B)][xx(]

Ads in newspapers..."private matchmaking", whatever.
I never got more than a handful replies, but hey...someone must represent the 1% of "true losers" whose case is just too disperate, eh?


quote: I am looking for cd's from strip clubs. Must be recorded from monitor
board without voice over from dj'd
Steven Salvesen

wow...another great fellow this Steven...if there is one able to patch Barney's botched romantic life it's Steven, right?

[:o)][xx(]

PeopleSmoks
01-27-2008, 07:49 PM
Hey ham, if you want to feel like a star, login to http:www.hotrussianbrides.com and take out one of the free memberships! You'll have more 18 to 20 year old children wanting to chat with you than you'll know what to do with![:0][:o)][8D]

Train returns

ham
01-28-2008, 07:02 AM
quote: You'll have more 18 to 20 year old children wanting to chat with you than you'll know what to do with

sure...mass-mails by the agency and letters engineered by "friendly translators"...after eleventeen months of romantic correspondence and eleventeen thousands spent in letters, English lessons, whatever, you land there and she (if she's not mysteriously ill, calls quits the day before or has to visit her dying uncle in China... ) meets you for a couple hours.
It turns out she knows nothing about you and gazes the ceiling instead of "diving into your wonderful eyes" as she professed she'd do in your romantic exchange.
You even bought her a gold bracelet.
Next day you receive an email saying how sorry she is, but it could never work out with you.

PeopleSmoks
01-28-2008, 09:14 AM
What the heck are you babbling about??? How you went from what I said to that mini tirade landing in China, I'll never figure. Anyway, start checking things out before replying to a post with the same material you posted in 2005. Barney is dead, and Igor can't do live feed video-chat can he??? Or maybe he really did get that sex change and is now Elena, or Alena?

Igor, Boris, or Sergei are not the ones on live video chat. They simply collect the money. When 18 to 20 yo girls swarm 44 yo men wanting to video chat, intentions are obvious, but feel free to explain it to me anyway ham.[B)]

Train returns

ham
01-28-2008, 10:51 AM
quote: What the heck are you babbling about???

What are you talking about?
Who is talking to or about YOU?
Did they spike your drink or something?
Or should I always use "one" instead of "you"?
[:o)]


quote: Anyway, start checking things out before replying to a post with the same material you posted in 2005. Barney is dead, and Igor can't do live feed video-chat can he??? Or maybe he really did get that sex change and is now Elena, or Alena?

What should I check exactly?
That these love queens online 24-7 to videochat with you are paid ringers much as those on western "webcam" sites, working for larger organizations?
There was an african man who complained on a forum he had wasted money on videochats yet his online love queens had disappeared.
He raised a bit of hell, so next he got some "agency representative" who first tried to intimidate him, next magically brought his love queens back from the fifth dimension.
Other men complained that when they visited, their love queens canceled the day before, never to be heard of again.
Not in 2005, but in 2007.
A poster here just told the story of the cold treatment he received.

Why are you getting so sensitive?
It can't be PMS so tell me...
[?][:0]

Since however you seem to be on top of recent developments I am unaware of (being stuck in 2005), please enlighten me...

Why would Barney be dead?
Hell, sure he got dentures and diapers, but hell, let him enjoy his retirement a few more years...
[^]

Prometheus
01-28-2008, 04:29 PM
We have very important news for you

UAladys.com company is now divided into two parts

Read this message to the end, please

Dear clients,

We are very thankful to you for using our service for 7 years already and we hope that you are satisfied with its quality. Our branches' stuff, managers of the support center, our programmers and accountants have been doing their best to help you in your search for your only one!

The organization of our company is the following:

There is a company in the USA: CCUSA LLC, and another one, IISPP INC which provide finance movement and credit cards billings on our old web site UAladys.com The companies in Ukraine fulfil an order to give you services like letters' translation, buying and delivering gifts, trips' organization etc. Clients' support center and technical support center are also situated in Ukraine.

In fact all job is done by Ukrainian company with the exeption of finance movement and credit cards billings control.

We are going to explain to you what has happened:

Unfortunately American part represented by CCUSA LLC and IISPP INC companies have been very irregular in fulfiling their financial obligations in relation to Ukrainian companies which do all job to provide service for you, dear clients!

The money meant for providing services come with a very big delay making our branches' work very difficult and sometimes even impossible. Isn't it upleasant to know that your lady received her birthday gift with the delay of two weeks?! Isn't it upleasant to find out that the branch you came to hadn't received the money for hotel reservation while you are on your way to Ukraine?
Negotations with CCUSA LLC company weren't a success. As a result 8 branches situated on the territory of Ukraine have decided to sever relations with CCUSA LLC company.

Poltava, Simferopol, Sumy, Kremenchug, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Donetsk, Lutsk are becoming an independent company creating their own web site.

Latest news: at the conclusion of preliminary negotiations CCUSA LLC promised to pay off debts of rendered services in the nearest future, whereof we gladly inform and voice a hope for civilized settlement of financial dispute.

What we are going to do:

We are inviting you to go to UADreams.com site where you'll be able to continue communication with the ladies from these branches!
Our team of proffesionals which was doing all job before is now working on a new adress assuring efficient service. Our service center, clients support center and branches' stuff will provide good conditiond for qualitative and uninterrupted work.

CCUSA LLC company belongings are left to themselves.We are
istablishing a completely new company.

What will change for you:

There will be no big changes in your process of communication with the lady(s). [We will still keep your money, not provide service, and then blame our thievery on fake third-parties] The ladies are the same. The interpreters are the same. The qualilty of work [xx(] will be much higher due to regular finance coming, centralized management and new system of watching the stuff quality work.

You just have to go to UAdreams.com and continue communication with your lady(s)! It's easy! We have very fast web site and we solve all problem with perfomance. Enjoy!

On our part we'll do our best to provide superb service for you being an experienced company and the company which starts working independently at the same time.

We have a big hope for your support

We want to make our service more convenient for you, so from today during all February we propose you a new offer. Every day you can write a one ABSOLUTLY FREE FIRST LETTER to any lady you like from our galary (if you didn't write to here before)! So you will be able not only to see the beauty of our girls but also to understand they inner word, and if they are interested in you before starting correspondence!!! We hope it will help you to find your only soulmate!!!

If you have any questions...

You are welcome to apply to our friendly Customer Service where they'll help you to solve any difficulties!
http://www.UAladys.com

Copy and paste link to your browser you if have some problem with you mail client

Respectfully,
UAdreams staff.

If you wish to be removed from this mailing, please send an e-mail with your member # and Email address
to stopit@ualadys.com, you will be removed from our mailing list or click here.

Prometheus
01-28-2008, 07:39 PM
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Prometheus
01-28-2008, 08:01 PM
It's been a slow winter around Hooterville for our dear friend, Eustace Haney. But just when he was ready to call it quits, along came the lovely Victoria M, who is HOT FOR HANEY!
http://photo.uadreams.com/photos/0/7036/867225_39312.jpg

Victoria M. #7036
22 years old

THE LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR VICTORIA

Hello dear [just a space... don't even bother to insert a name here, D'oh!] !

My name is Victoria, I'm a young and attractive girl, I can be calm and thoughtful open and joyfull, it depends on mood and situation. I study at the university and also work as a manager in bank-office.

Do you like travelling? I do like and always extremely keen to see new places and people. Not so long ago I fulfilled my dream and visited Thailand, have you ever been to this country? Maybe one day we could go there together , it is so exciting to see the world with one very special person:). And I feel you are!

I 'm fond of extreme kinds of sports, parachute jumping, diving, etc. Are not you scared yet?:)

I like spending weekends in the Crimea.

I can cook some very tasty things and do like salads [she does "like salads"... 'DUDE!!!!];), I like listening to music, classical for dreaming and dancing music when with my friends. What about you?

And here is the most important.. I'm a romantic person and dreaming to meet a real love, that is

why I am here and writing my letter to you:)

Impatiently waiting for your reply, [is there any other way to wait???] Victoria!!!

http://photo.uadreams.com/photos/0/7036/867221_63514.jpg

PeopleSmoks
01-28-2008, 10:02 PM
quote:What are you talking about?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always understood that when a person quotes something said by another person, comments that follow tend to refer to what was quoted... Maybe I'm wrong???

You quoted my reference to 18 to 20 yos on chat and then started in about mass mailings and a dying uncle in China. Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I simply wasn't able to make the connection.

And on the lighter side, let Barney rest. Gunther and his pals Ahmed, Mario and Bruce are feeling a bit left out.

GOD BLESS EUSTACE HANEY!!!! First Lisa Douglas all those years ago, and now Victoria M. #7036!!!! What a sly dog that guy is!!!

Train returns

ROBINHOOD
01-28-2008, 10:10 PM
HI THERE EVERYONE AFTER I CAME ACROSS THE SITE I WAS WRITING TO A LETTER ON ULADYS AND HAD MY SUSPICIONS AND SAW A FEW OF YOU WRITING ABOUT NADEZHA AND OLGA AND PASTING OF LETTERS AND I ASKED MY LADY TO PROOF SHE WS REAL I COMPLAINED TO ULADYS AND ASKED FOR PROOF TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO REPORT THEM TO AUTHORITIES THEY NEVER REPLIED TO MY LETTER BUT KNOW I NOTICE ALL THE WOMEN I SPOKE SUDDENLY DISAPEARED OF THERE WEBSITE SAYING THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE. IS ANYONE USING A GOOD SITE WHERE ITS NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE AND YOU CAN CORRESPOND WITH THE GIRLS DIRECTLY AFTER SO ATLEAST IT COULD BE ALL ABOVE BOARD. HOPE THERE ARE SOME SUCCESS STORIES.

PeopleSmoks
01-29-2008, 02:20 AM
ROBINHOOD, there are NO guarantees in the FSU/MOB world, short of going there to find your girl, living there, dating her there, marring her, and then returning home with her. Even then, even though I'm currently in hot pursuit of my own FSU hottie, there's no guarantee she'll "love" you forever until you've grown old and died. This is what is known as a successful FSU/MOB marriage!!! Die before she files for divorce!!![:0]

Some sites claim they "validate" the girl's info, but who really knows??? From my experience, if you want to play, be careful and look for the signs of a scam. No site is really 100% safe.:(

Train returns

jake122969
01-29-2008, 02:23 AM
Hot for Haney

Dammit I just spewed my Jack and Coke

Jake

ham
01-29-2008, 05:02 AM
quote: Maybe I'm wrong, but I always understood that when a person quotes something said by another person, comments that follow tend to refer to what was quoted... Maybe I'm wrong???

You quoted my reference to 18 to 20 yos on chat and then started in about mass mailings and a dying uncle in China. Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I simply wasn't able to make the connection.

Are you dense? You tell me.

quote: Hey ham, if you want to feel like a star,

You address ME and then have problems with my answer?
That is funny.
Everybody knows "interest notices" or other token of appreciation are routinely mass-mailed by the agency software to all supposed male members, to hopefully get them hooked so that a "friendly translator" can yank their chain, otherwise how can you explain teenaged beauty queens writing long deceased characters of a 1960s soap opera?
And I sincerely pity those who truly believe all those beauty queens both are online 24-7 to chat with them AND are traditional and marriage-minded.
[:o)][B)][xx(]


quote: HI THERE EVERYONE AFTER I CAME ACROSS THE SITE I WAS WRITING TO A LETTER ON ULADYS AND HAD MY SUSPICIONS AND SAW A FEW OF YOU WRITING ABOUT NADEZHA AND OLGA AND PASTING OF LETTERS AND I ASKED MY LADY TO PROOF SHE WS REAL I COMPLAINED TO ULADYS AND ASKED FOR PROOF TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO REPORT THEM TO AUTHORITIES THEY NEVER REPLIED TO MY LETTER BUT KNOW I NOTICE ALL THE WOMEN I SPOKE SUDDENLY DISAPEARED OF THERE WEBSITE SAYING THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE.

You are not alone.
Ask yourself the question: are those eye-catching profiles that earnt them so much moolah and traffic going to be "just deleted"?
Or rather aren't they going to reappear under another name, or on another website?
Day one there is a stampede of teenaged beauty queens wanting to get to know you; day three they are all gone EN MASSE? No longer lovesick or what?
[?][:0][B)]
TO ME it's mostly smoke & mirrors...and men footing the bill for the dog&pony show...but then I'm probably the good old bastard who makes no sense and is stuck in the 80s...
oh well...
[:o)][:0][:0]

58Bluv
01-29-2008, 08:31 AM
WHO IS... UADreams.com

Who knows but they still have the same support telephone # in New York as Ualadys?????????

Goddiejens
01-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Hi guys,

I received this mail from UALadys.com / UADreams:

We are very thankful to you for using our service for 7 years already and we hope that you are satisfied with its quality. Our branches' stuff, managers of the support center, our programmers and accountants have been doing their best to help you in your search for your only one!

The organization of our company is the following:
There is a company in the USA: CCUSA LLC, and another one, IISPP INC which provide finance movement and credit cards billings on our old web site UAladys.com The companies in Ukraine fulfil an order to give you services like letters' translation, buying and delivering gifts, trips' organization etc. Clients' support center and technical support center are also situated in Ukraine.

In fact all job is done by Ukrainian company with the exeption of finance movement and credit cards billings control.

We are going to explain to you what has happened:
Unfortunately American part represented by CCUSA LLC and IISPP INC companies have been very irregular in fulfiling their financial obligations in relation to Ukrainian companies which do all job to provide service for you, dear clients!

The money meant for providing services come with a very big delay making our branches' work very difficult and sometimes even impossible. Isn't it upleasant to know that your lady received her birthday gift with the delay of two weeks?! Isn't it upleasant to find out that the branch you came to hadn't received the money for hotel reservation while you are on your way to Ukraine?

Negotations with CCUSA LLC company weren't a success. As a result 8 branches situated on the territory of Ukraine have decided to sever relations with CCUSA LLC company.

Poltava, Simferopol, Sumy, Kremenchug, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Donetsk, Lutsk are becoming an independent company creating their own web site.

Latest news: at the conclusion of preliminary negotiations CCUSA LLC promised to pay off debts of rendered services in the nearest future, whereof we gladly inform and voice a hope for civilized settlement of financial dispute.

What we are going to do:
We are inviting you to go to UADreams.com site where you'll be able to continue communication with the ladies from these branches!

Our team of proffesionals which was doing all job before is now working on a new adress assuring efficient service. Our service center, clients support center and branches' stuff will provide good conditiond for qualitative and uninterrupted work.

CCUSA LLC company belongings are left to themselves.We are istablishing a completely new company.

What will change for you:
There will be no big changes in your process of communication with the lady(s). The ladies are the same. The interpreters are the same.The qualilty of work will be much higher due to regular finance coming, centralized management and new system of watching the stuff quality work.

You just have to go to UAdreams.com and continue communication with your lady(s)! It's easy! We have very fast web site and we solve all problem with perfomance. Enjoy!

On our part we'll do our best to provide superb service for you being an experienced company and the company which starts working independently at the same time.

We have a big hope for your support
We want to make our service more convenient for you, so from today during all February we propose you a new offer. Every day you can write a one ABSOLUTLY FREE FIRST LETTER to any lady you like from our galary (if you didn't write to here before)! So you will be able not only to see the beauty of our girls but also to understand they inner word, and if they are interested in you before starting correspondence!!! We hope it will help you to find your only soulmate!!!

If you have any questions...
You are welcome to apply to our friendly Customer Service where they'll help you to solve any difficulties!

http://www.UADreams.com
Copy and paste link to your browser you if have some problem with you mail client

+++

Goddiejens

Goddiejens
01-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Guys,

as I paid last night to send some mails there at UADREAMs I found out that the screen to fill in the credit card details is different from what I experienced before at UALADIES. So most Ukrainian offices of UALADIES work on their own now separated from the holding in the USA because of serious payment troubles. Only a few number of offices continues to be linked to the holding in USA and Panama.

I think that UADREAMs solved the problem to charge credit cards themselves and make the business without USA or Panama. That's the reality! Now they push the mail correspondence quantity to work as much profitable as possible and make their money... .

Look also at the webcams. The office in Odessa seems to be their new call center for customer support. You can see there guys working with headphones!

Goddiejens

Prometheus
01-29-2008, 01:36 PM
quote:Look also at the webcams. The office in Odessa seems to be their new call center for customer support. You can see there guys working with headphones!

http://www.mushytime.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/ugly_fat_man_big_tummy_funny_pictur.jpg

TRANSLATED BY OLGA FOR YULIA:

Dear Goddiejens,

I saw your profile today and said there is a man I must know more about! My name is Yulia and I am a 18 year old girl from Lutsk who enjoys the dancing, good friends, and making the hot boom boom all night with good looking man like you!

[PLEASE INSERT SEVEN DOLLARS FOR THE REST OF THIS MESSAGE]

imported_admin
01-29-2008, 10:20 PM
Hello,

Please post your new comments about CC, UALadys, UADreams here: http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=964
Thank you.

Best regards,
Stop-Scammers.com Team

animal14
02-19-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi you guys
i want you all to know you are wrong about UALadys and UADreams, i personaly went to Sumy to meet a girl she was real and a real dissapointment but the office and the office staff are very real, sure they charge you to much for a trip package but you get full service in return.
i did meet with a girl that does seem interresting and i`m corresponding with her now.

UALadys and UADreams are not scam sites

if you want to know who i am look at the testimonials at the UADreams site from jan 18

swede
02-19-2008, 06:42 PM
"but the office and the office staff are very real,........."

What does that prove? Somebody have to run the office, no one has ever suggested, that the site itself is a fiction. It's the potential cyber-dating partner's existence or validity, which has been questioned.

Anthony Ferrara
02-20-2008, 09:28 AM
Ditto Swede!!


Sincerely,

Tone [^]

peter
02-20-2008, 10:32 PM
Hi Folks,

would you say this is the same person as in the rapidshare fotos?
uadreams #4942

http://rapidshare.com/files/93542513/181436524_huge.jpg.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/93542883/181436540_huge.jpg.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/93543054/181436570_huge.jpg.html


peter.

donicova
02-24-2008, 10:55 PM
Hi,
Could you tell me wich Irina (ID number for ex) you refer to at Poltava city? Actually I'm in touch with one and like to know more about her. Thx


quote:Originally posted by brunods

LOL I have laughed my ass out here!

Goddiejens do something for me, go to Poltava and meet Nadja! ;)
There are at least 3 of us here who were chatting with her, find out how real she is! lol

If you want to have good sex, find Irina, she's a ninfo!

Besides that I hope you get lucky and meet a nice woman. :)

Your report has been noted. I am going to Estonia in April and there I know I can meet women easilly and they are nice and not from any agency or "paid".
So I recommend you guys to go to Tallinn in Estonia. Or Riga in Latvia, very beautiful girls there. :)

brunods
02-27-2008, 03:46 PM
The Irina whom I spoke of somehow disappeared from my messages.

I checked both my inbox and outbox and all the messages are gone as well as photos. She is now officially a ghost. :)

Well I can describe her, she's blonde and petite.

swdawson
05-22-2008, 06:19 PM
Hello,

I was saying the same thing over a year ago, but I am not saying this now. I was engaged to a girl for 7 months in Zhitomir Daria Sherstnova # 4252. We were perfectly happy up until this month when she called off everything, saying that I did not have enough money to support her in the USA. The Agency backed her up 100 percent, even though her letters say other wise. She is already posted to the scammer site, because she was dating someone while she was engaged to me. If there are others that have gotten letters from her during the time period of April 13, 2007 until Present. Please post them. This girl is a black widow. Her mother is also involved in the scheme, so beware. I will be posting all the document on the scammer site. It will take a while. I have over 1000 letters, Passport, etc Lots of photos. Some are already up there thanks to Rodney from the USA. Apparently she sent him some sexy photos while she was engaged and admitted to do it.

Here is the letter that I got from ualadys this week about her explanation for ending the relationship. I want everyone to know also that the K-1 Visa was approved 2 days before I got this letter. She told the Agency that I told her to leave her job. This is not true.
I also am employed. I have to be to get the K-1 Visa. It is a requirement. How stupid is ualadys for believing her!

Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

To: sdawson

From: "Julia Mazurok:NOC" <members@ualadys.com>

Message-Id: <20080521113951.086FA866713@mail.iispp.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:39:50 -0400 (EDT)




Dear Mr. Dawson!



Thank you for your letter.



We had long conversations with our Zhitomir office.

And talked to Daria as well.

She says that she doesn't want anything from you and she doesn't want any money from you. You told her that you love her and you would do anything for her. She asked you when she needed help.

You asked her to leave her job, but at the same time you cannot provide her enough material support.

Everything you bought her during your visit was done by yourself.

Daria is very serious about marriage, but after she has learned more about you she realized that ou and her cannot be together as you cannot provide her with all things she needs in life. She doesn't see sense to continue relationship that will lead to further arguments and quarrels.

From the name of the agency we can say that Daria is really interested in many material things, she wants to have a high level of life and nobody can stop her from wanting this. It's not a crime to wish to have a good level of life.

Daria says that you told her that you don't a permanent and well-paid job at the moment and she has doubts as for how you were going to provide your and her life in the USA. She wants to feel secure in life.

She is very sorry and upset that it happened so, but she feels that continuing this relationship will only lead to more problems.





Sincerely,



Support Team















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quote:Originally posted by animal14

Hi you guys
i want you all to know you are wrong about UALadys and UADreams, i personaly went to Sumy to meet a girl she was real and a real dissapointment but the office and the office staff are very real, sure they charge you to much for a trip package but you get full service in return.
i did meet with a girl that does seem interresting and i`m corresponding with her now.

UALadys and UADreams are not scam sites

if you want to know who i am look at the testimonials at the UADreams site from jan 18

swdawson
05-22-2008, 06:19 PM
Hello,

I was saying the same thing over a year ago, but I am not saying this now. I was engaged to a girl for 7 months in Zhitomir Daria Sherstnova # 4252. We were perfectly happy up until this month when she called off everything, saying that I did not have enough money to support her in the USA. The Agency backed her up 100 percent, even though her letters say other wise. She is already posted to the scammer site, because she was dating someone while she was engaged to me. If there are others that have gotten letters from her during the time period of April 13, 2007 until Present. Please post them. This girl is a black widow. Her mother is also involved in the scheme, so beware. I will be posting all the document on the scammer site. It will take a while. I have over 1000 letters, Passport, etc Lots of photos. Some are already up there thanks to Rodney from the USA. Apparently she sent him some sexy photos while she was engaged and admitted to do it.

Here is the letter that I got from ualadys this week about her explanation for ending the relationship. I want everyone to know also that the K-1 Visa was approved 2 days before I got this letter. She told the Agency that I told her to leave her job. This is not true.
I also am employed. I have to be to get the K-1 Visa. It is a requirement. How stupid is ualadys for believing her!

Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

To: sdawson

From: "Julia Mazurok:NOC" <members@ualadys.com>

Message-Id: <20080521113951.086FA866713@mail.iispp.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:39:50 -0400 (EDT)




Dear Mr. Dawson!



Thank you for your letter.



We had long conversations with our Zhitomir office.

And talked to Daria as well.

She says that she doesn't want anything from you and she doesn't want any money from you. You told her that you love her and you would do anything for her. She asked you when she needed help.

You asked her to leave her job, but at the same time you cannot provide her enough material support.

Everything you bought her during your visit was done by yourself.

Daria is very serious about marriage, but after she has learned more about you she realized that ou and her cannot be together as you cannot provide her with all things she needs in life. She doesn't see sense to continue relationship that will lead to further arguments and quarrels.

From the name of the agency we can say that Daria is really interested in many material things, she wants to have a high level of life and nobody can stop her from wanting this. It's not a crime to wish to have a good level of life.

Daria says that you told her that you don't a permanent and well-paid job at the moment and she has doubts as for how you were going to provide your and her life in the USA. She wants to feel secure in life.

She is very sorry and upset that it happened so, but she feels that continuing this relationship will only lead to more problems.





Sincerely,



Support Team















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That's why we strongly recommend to receive an answer to your question on our site.
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quote:Originally posted by animal14

Hi you guys
i want you all to know you are wrong about UALadys and UADreams, i personaly went to Sumy to meet a girl she was real and a real dissapointment but the office and the office staff are very real, sure they charge you to much for a trip package but you get full service in return.
i did meet with a girl that does seem interresting and i`m corresponding with her now.

UALadys and UADreams are not scam sites

if you want to know who i am look at the testimonials at the UADreams site from jan 18

Kevin
05-27-2008, 08:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by swdawson

Hello,

I was saying the same thing over a year ago, but I am not saying this now. I was engaged to a girl for 7 months in Zhitomir Daria Sherstnova # 4252. We were perfectly happy up until this month when she called off everything, saying that I did not have enough money to support her in the USA. The Agency backed her up 100 percent, even though her letters say other wise. She is already posted to the scammer site, because she was dating someone while she was engaged to me. If there are others that have gotten letters from her during the time period of April 13, 2007 until Present. Please post them. This girl is a black widow. Her mother is also involved in the scheme, so beware. I will be posting all the document on the scammer site. It will take a while. I have over 1000 letters, Passport, etc Lots of photos. Some are already up there thanks to Rodney from the USA. Apparently she sent him some sexy photos while she was engaged and admitted to do it.

Here is the letter that I got from ualadys this week about her explanation for ending the relationship. I want everyone to know also that the K-1 Visa was approved 2 days before I got this letter. She told the Agency that I told her to leave her job. This is not true.
I also am employed. I have to be to get the K-1 Visa. It is a requirement. How stupid is ualadys for believing her!

Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

To: sdawson

From: "Julia Mazurok:NOC" <members@ualadys.com>

Message-Id: <20080521113951.086FA866713@mail.iispp.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:39:50 -0400 (EDT)




Dear Mr. Dawson!



Thank you for your letter.



We had long conversations with our Zhitomir office.

And talked to Daria as well.

She says that she doesn't want anything from you and she doesn't want any money from you. You told her that you love her and you would do anything for her. She asked you when she needed help.

You asked her to leave her job, but at the same time you cannot provide her enough material support.

Everything you bought her during your visit was done by yourself.

Daria is very serious about marriage, but after she has learned more about you she realized that ou and her cannot be together as you cannot provide her with all things she needs in life. She doesn't see sense to continue relationship that will lead to further arguments and quarrels.

From the name of the agency we can say that Daria is really interested in many material things, she wants to have a high level of life and nobody can stop her from wanting this. It's not a crime to wish to have a good level of life.

Daria says that you told her that you don't a permanent and well-paid job at the moment and she has doubts as for how you were going to provide your and her life in the USA. She wants to feel secure in life.

She is very sorry and upset that it happened so, but she feels that continuing this relationship will only lead to more problems.





Sincerely,



Support Team















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quote:Originally posted by animal14

Hi you guys
i want you all to know you are wrong about UALadys and UADreams, i personaly went to Sumy to meet a girl she was real and a real dissapointment but the office and the office staff are very real, sure they charge you to much for a trip package but you get full service in return.
i did meet with a girl that does seem interresting and i`m corresponding with her now.

UALadys and UADreams are not scam sites

if you want to know who i am look at the testimonials at the UADreams site from jan 18



Hey swdawson I would like to talk to you about Daria S. #4252. I had communicated with this girl for some time and even visited her in July 2007. Please get in contact with me, you can use my yahoo to send a message. We can share information, I do have a way to contact her personally. I haven't been here in a while and decided to see what was new and ran into your posting about Daria.

Kevin
05-27-2008, 08:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by swdawson

Hello,

I was saying the same thing over a year ago, but I am not saying this now. I was engaged to a girl for 7 months in Zhitomir Daria Sherstnova # 4252. We were perfectly happy up until this month when she called off everything, saying that I did not have enough money to support her in the USA. The Agency backed her up 100 percent, even though her letters say other wise. She is already posted to the scammer site, because she was dating someone while she was engaged to me. If there are others that have gotten letters from her during the time period of April 13, 2007 until Present. Please post them. This girl is a black widow. Her mother is also involved in the scheme, so beware. I will be posting all the document on the scammer site. It will take a while. I have over 1000 letters, Passport, etc Lots of photos. Some are already up there thanks to Rodney from the USA. Apparently she sent him some sexy photos while she was engaged and admitted to do it.

Here is the letter that I got from ualadys this week about her explanation for ending the relationship. I want everyone to know also that the K-1 Visa was approved 2 days before I got this letter. She told the Agency that I told her to leave her job. This is not true.
I also am employed. I have to be to get the K-1 Visa. It is a requirement. How stupid is ualadys for believing her!

Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

To: sdawson

From: "Julia Mazurok:NOC" <members@ualadys.com>

Message-Id: <20080521113951.086FA866713@mail.iispp.com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:39:50 -0400 (EDT)




Dear Mr. Dawson!



Thank you for your letter.



We had long conversations with our Zhitomir office.

And talked to Daria as well.

She says that she doesn't want anything from you and she doesn't want any money from you. You told her that you love her and you would do anything for her. She asked you when she needed help.

You asked her to leave her job, but at the same time you cannot provide her enough material support.

Everything you bought her during your visit was done by yourself.

Daria is very serious about marriage, but after she has learned more about you she realized that ou and her cannot be together as you cannot provide her with all things she needs in life. She doesn't see sense to continue relationship that will lead to further arguments and quarrels.

From the name of the agency we can say that Daria is really interested in many material things, she wants to have a high level of life and nobody can stop her from wanting this. It's not a crime to wish to have a good level of life.

Daria says that you told her that you don't a permanent and well-paid job at the moment and she has doubts as for how you were going to provide your and her life in the USA. She wants to feel secure in life.

She is very sorry and upset that it happened so, but she feels that continuing this relationship will only lead to more problems.





Sincerely,



Support Team















Reply sent by Julia Mazurok
For any question use our website only, do not reply to this email.

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That's why we strongly recommend to receive an answer to your question on our site.
http://ualadys.com/support.rpx?id=73197

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quote:Originally posted by animal14

Hi you guys
i want you all to know you are wrong about UALadys and UADreams, i personaly went to Sumy to meet a girl she was real and a real dissapointment but the office and the office staff are very real, sure they charge you to much for a trip package but you get full service in return.
i did meet with a girl that does seem interresting and i`m corresponding with her now.

UALadys and UADreams are not scam sites

if you want to know who i am look at the testimonials at the UADreams site from jan 18



Hey swdawson I would like to talk to you about Daria S. #4252. I had communicated with this girl for some time and even visited her in July 2007. Please get in contact with me, you can use my yahoo to send a message. We can share information, I do have a way to contact her personally. I haven't been here in a while and decided to see what was new and ran into your posting about Daria.

Goddiejens
06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
Hello friends,

best regards from Kiev/Ukraine!!!

first of all, I spent some days in Kremenchug and some more days in Zhitomir. The office of uadreams dot com in Kremenchug is based in Kvartal 101. Best is to go to Kremenchug by night train from Kiev as I did, the price is less than 9 Euros ... I had a very young couple (14 or 15 years young) in my 4-persons-cabin, they "slept" (fu...) over me and the sails that fix the bed there on the wall did not break so that I am still alive, guys!!! ... well, whenever you go to Kremenchug, don't book a hotel in advance, go by train or express bus from Kiev PASS central railway station to Kremenchug and walk the 5-10 minutes the street there downtown to the Dniprovski Hotel ... and from the airport Borispol to the central railway station Kiev PASS please take the cheap "Polit" bus in front of the exit of the airport building that costs only 15 Grivna (and not 400 or 200 Grivna requested by taxi mafia drivers). If you leave the Dniprovski Hotel, please go to the left on the left hand side of the street until you crossed the street at the end, then go right and strait ahead until you see the building Kvartal 110 which is written on the big building there in that district in big letters ... go to the left and when you are at the end of that building, go right and again right and find the first entrance door to the Kremenchug office of uadreams there. A nervious lady who translates there will open the door, she checks the place from her window every minute again and comes out whenever a man sits there in front of the entrance. There is no name of the office mentiones, it is located on the ground floor (some steps upstairs first) to the left.

The first room is closed for visitors. There is the photographer working on his pc, a young guy who also speaks English well... . I was alwayz received in the second room.

I booked a date there with Marina#5782, here is her last mail to me dated May 15:

"Hello xxxxxxxxxx!

To be honest ,I can't believe that less than in a week we'll meet in reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 days?!!Tha's great ,but dear ...I am not sure that I will be able to spend all of them with you.

I have to attend studies and in addition exams...

Well,let's don't haste and then e'll see what we'll do.

Of course,it is great that we'll have so much time ,but I do also worry what will you do the part of the day while I'll be at school.

Dear,I don't want you to feel like abandond.

Tell me what was reaction at work?

Were they surprised by the reason of your vacations?

I still can't believe that we have met.

I feel great.Thank you!

Marina."

Marina came in and looked at me ... like a little girl looks at her violator! So she was super extreme shy. No way to come to any agreement with her. I was frustrated, of course. I expected at least that she shows me some places in Kremenchug... . So I collected the experience that such a young lady only mails sweetest hot love stuff to attract a guy like me and make a guy like me coming to that place ... and as soon as the real meeting happens she has no time and plays a dirty game to say bye and nothing else ... .

Then I booked a date with Elena V. #5774. She showed me the Dnieper River there and the downtown areas on her work free Sunday, we will keep in touch. She is really a goodie. She works as a nurse and is a bit older than Marina so that she just knows better what she wants... .

Then I had the option to spend the week alone in Kremenchug or continue my travel to Zhitomir. I took the express bus from the railway station in Kremenchug to Kiev and paid 55 grivna to come to Kiev central railway station PASS where it took me only 2 minutes to sit in the next express shuttle bus to Zhitomir where I caught the last seat ... at 3 pm I arrived at Zhitomir, hungry! 15 grivnas for a taxi to Polski Dom where the small single room (with bathroom/wc/tv) costs 120 grivna per night (Dniprovski Zory Hotel in Kremenchug costed 280 grivna per night in the double room). from Polski Dom it takes a walk of 10 minutes over the bridge of the small river there to stand in the central place of Zhitomir at the corner of the "potatoe house" (US stylished fast food restaurant, good enough to eat), and just some 3 minutes before I found an underground shop & canteen to take breakfast super cheap ... with some drinkers around me who preferred vodka in the morning and beer ... . But well, from "Potatoes House" I went across the bis square there along the Lenin monument and then I crossed the street and turned right in to the Kievskaya Street where at number 55 the office of ualadies dot com is located. Ualadies is not mentioned at the entrance of the old and really not nice looking building, but some meters upstairs no problem to find the office and also the name of the agency at the door. On the way through Kievskaya Street there is left hand side also located a cafeteria which is popular and crowded with students, on the right hand side there is based the central post office of the town with a "computer club" which is the cheapest internetcafe of Zhitomir. If you go along there in direction to the office you would see also the street where the tram runs, and there on the right hand side the local marked is based. I also found there a "New York" pizzeria and a the cafeteria amour with well English speaking friendly waitresses... .

The managers of ualadys Zhitomir were very busy with an English business guy who will marry next month and has his business there in Ukraine and Russia. He wasts so much money that they all went to restaurants and bars with him there... .

I had dated Tatyana P. #4327 who had mailed me before that she would like to prepare a dessert for us and I should please lick with my lips this dessert from her body ... so for my opinion this was "hot stuff". But the girl is not black-haired, she appeared as blondy in the meeting, her last letter dated June 3 says:

"Hi!

Sorry for misunderstanding.

I wish you good luck.

Tatyana"

I recorded the second meeting (I ordered extra 2 hours translation!) on dvd. She is not shy at all but a big liar! She was not interested at all in me. She only wanted to attract me to come to Zhitomir, and she said that directly to me ... I was very angry with her in the second conversation. first she had no time, then she came to the first meeting but very late, then she had no time and 2 times she cancelled the second meeting ... and finally she enjoyed her bubble and did not look in to my eyes and with a smile she rejected me fully. I told her that I would not like to see such a big liar again in my life ... . I was glad that I kicked her out of the restaurant before I ordered a meal for me and the translating lady who only did her job.

Here is her mail dated May 14:

" Hello, dear xxxxxxx!

I'm so happy to write you today. Frankly speaking, I missed this night. The reason of it is that I watched a very romantic movie yesterday in the evening. And at the end of it I even cried. But it was the tears of happiness because the main heroes were together at last.

You know, their situation was like ours. They also got acquainted through the internet. But the only difference was that they met after one month of correspondence. But then they were apart for several years.

I hope that the end of our story will be the same happy.

How are you and why are you silent? I hope everything is fine with you.

Wait for your reply!

Kiss you!

Yours, Tatyana"

She is really a big liar and she is aware of what she does and does absolutely not mind of it ... I said to her that I would be very ashamed to treat in her way a guest or friend who travels from far away to my place in order to spend time with me... . She looks very sweet and little. She is not 170 cm high, she is only 160 cm high! And she also played the game with me that she would not understand Russian, grrr!!! Or her cellphone would not work ... grrr ... but the translator called her before ... grrr!!!

No other dates in Zhitomir, but I spent my time there with some other people. Who wants to have a copy of my dvds, please drop me a line with postal address and feel free to receive a copy!

goodiejens

Goddiejens
06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
Hello friends,

best regards from Kiev/Ukraine!!!

first of all, I spent some days in Kremenchug and some more days in Zhitomir. The office of uadreams dot com in Kremenchug is based in Kvartal 101. Best is to go to Kremenchug by night train from Kiev as I did, the price is less than 9 Euros ... I had a very young couple (14 or 15 years young) in my 4-persons-cabin, they "slept" (fu...) over me and the sails that fix the bed there on the wall did not break so that I am still alive, guys!!! ... well, whenever you go to Kremenchug, don't book a hotel in advance, go by train or express bus from Kiev PASS central railway station to Kremenchug and walk the 5-10 minutes the street there downtown to the Dniprovski Hotel ... and from the airport Borispol to the central railway station Kiev PASS please take the cheap "Polit" bus in front of the exit of the airport building that costs only 15 Grivna (and not 400 or 200 Grivna requested by taxi mafia drivers). If you leave the Dniprovski Hotel, please go to the left on the left hand side of the street until you crossed the street at the end, then go right and strait ahead until you see the building Kvartal 110 which is written on the big building there in that district in big letters ... go to the left and when you are at the end of that building, go right and again right and find the first entrance door to the Kremenchug office of uadreams there. A nervious lady who translates there will open the door, she checks the place from her window every minute again and comes out whenever a man sits there in front of the entrance. There is no name of the office mentiones, it is located on the ground floor (some steps upstairs first) to the left.

The first room is closed for visitors. There is the photographer working on his pc, a young guy who also speaks English well... . I was alwayz received in the second room.

I booked a date there with Marina#5782, here is her last mail to me dated May 15:

"Hello xxxxxxxxxx!

To be honest ,I can't believe that less than in a week we'll meet in reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 days?!!Tha's great ,but dear ...I am not sure that I will be able to spend all of them with you.

I have to attend studies and in addition exams...

Well,let's don't haste and then e'll see what we'll do.

Of course,it is great that we'll have so much time ,but I do also worry what will you do the part of the day while I'll be at school.

Dear,I don't want you to feel like abandond.

Tell me what was reaction at work?

Were they surprised by the reason of your vacations?

I still can't believe that we have met.

I feel great.Thank you!

Marina."

Marina came in and looked at me ... like a little girl looks at her violator! So she was super extreme shy. No way to come to any agreement with her. I was frustrated, of course. I expected at least that she shows me some places in Kremenchug... . So I collected the experience that such a young lady only mails sweetest hot love stuff to attract a guy like me and make a guy like me coming to that place ... and as soon as the real meeting happens she has no time and plays a dirty game to say bye and nothing else ... .

Then I booked a date with Elena V. #5774. She showed me the Dnieper River there and the downtown areas on her work free Sunday, we will keep in touch. She is really a goodie. She works as a nurse and is a bit older than Marina so that she just knows better what she wants... .

Then I had the option to spend the week alone in Kremenchug or continue my travel to Zhitomir. I took the express bus from the railway station in Kremenchug to Kiev and paid 55 grivna to come to Kiev central railway station PASS where it took me only 2 minutes to sit in the next express shuttle bus to Zhitomir where I caught the last seat ... at 3 pm I arrived at Zhitomir, hungry! 15 grivnas for a taxi to Polski Dom where the small single room (with bathroom/wc/tv) costs 120 grivna per night (Dniprovski Zory Hotel in Kremenchug costed 280 grivna per night in the double room). from Polski Dom it takes a walk of 10 minutes over the bridge of the small river there to stand in the central place of Zhitomir at the corner of the "potatoe house" (US stylished fast food restaurant, good enough to eat), and just some 3 minutes before I found an underground shop & canteen to take breakfast super cheap ... with some drinkers around me who preferred vodka in the morning and beer ... . But well, from "Potatoes House" I went across the bis square there along the Lenin monument and then I crossed the street and turned right in to the Kievskaya Street where at number 55 the office of ualadies dot com is located. Ualadies is not mentioned at the entrance of the old and really not nice looking building, but some meters upstairs no problem to find the office and also the name of the agency at the door. On the way through Kievskaya Street there is left hand side also located a cafeteria which is popular and crowded with students, on the right hand side there is based the central post office of the town with a "computer club" which is the cheapest internetcafe of Zhitomir. If you go along there in direction to the office you would see also the street where the tram runs, and there on the right hand side the local marked is based. I also found there a "New York" pizzeria and a the cafeteria amour with well English speaking friendly waitresses... .

The managers of ualadys Zhitomir were very busy with an English business guy who will marry next month and has his business there in Ukraine and Russia. He wasts so much money that they all went to restaurants and bars with him there... .

I had dated Tatyana P. #4327 who had mailed me before that she would like to prepare a dessert for us and I should please lick with my lips this dessert from her body ... so for my opinion this was "hot stuff". But the girl is not black-haired, she appeared as blondy in the meeting, her last letter dated June 3 says:

"Hi!

Sorry for misunderstanding.

I wish you good luck.

Tatyana"

I recorded the second meeting (I ordered extra 2 hours translation!) on dvd. She is not shy at all but a big liar! She was not interested at all in me. She only wanted to attract me to come to Zhitomir, and she said that directly to me ... I was very angry with her in the second conversation. first she had no time, then she came to the first meeting but very late, then she had no time and 2 times she cancelled the second meeting ... and finally she enjoyed her bubble and did not look in to my eyes and with a smile she rejected me fully. I told her that I would not like to see such a big liar again in my life ... . I was glad that I kicked her out of the restaurant before I ordered a meal for me and the translating lady who only did her job.

Here is her mail dated May 14:

" Hello, dear xxxxxxx!

I'm so happy to write you today. Frankly speaking, I missed this night. The reason of it is that I watched a very romantic movie yesterday in the evening. And at the end of it I even cried. But it was the tears of happiness because the main heroes were together at last.

You know, their situation was like ours. They also got acquainted through the internet. But the only difference was that they met after one month of correspondence. But then they were apart for several years.

I hope that the end of our story will be the same happy.

How are you and why are you silent? I hope everything is fine with you.

Wait for your reply!

Kiss you!

Yours, Tatyana"

She is really a big liar and she is aware of what she does and does absolutely not mind of it ... I said to her that I would be very ashamed to treat in her way a guest or friend who travels from far away to my place in order to spend time with me... . She looks very sweet and little. She is not 170 cm high, she is only 160 cm high! And she also played the game with me that she would not understand Russian, grrr!!! Or her cellphone would not work ... grrr ... but the translator called her before ... grrr!!!

No other dates in Zhitomir, but I spent my time there with some other people. Who wants to have a copy of my dvds, please drop me a line with postal address and feel free to receive a copy!

goodiejens

skipped
06-04-2008, 05:54 PM
goddiejens,
Have you posted your e-mail somewhere? I would like to get a copy from you if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks -Skipped

skipped
06-04-2008, 05:54 PM
goddiejens,
Have you posted your e-mail somewhere? I would like to get a copy from you if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks -Skipped

Prometheus
06-04-2008, 08:55 PM
Goodiejens,

Thanks for confirming what so many others have already said.

"Marina #5782 came in and looked at me ... like a little girl looks at her violator! ... and as soon as the real meeting happens she has no time and plays a dirty game to say bye and nothing else ... .

"Tatyana P. #4327 who had mailed me before that she would like to prepare a dessert for us and I should please lick with my lips this dessert from her body ... She was not interested at all in me. She only wanted to attract me to come to Zhitomir, and she said that directly to me ... she came to the first meeting but very late, then she had no time and 2 times she cancelled the second meeting ... and finally she enjoyed her bubble and did not look in to my eyes and with a smile she rejected me fully."

Call me crazy, but is it necessary to spend this kind of money on a round the globe trip for this? I am certain there are plenty of women who will take your money and abuse you at home for free.

Prometheus

Prometheus
06-04-2008, 08:55 PM
Goodiejens,

Thanks for confirming what so many others have already said.

"Marina #5782 came in and looked at me ... like a little girl looks at her violator! ... and as soon as the real meeting happens she has no time and plays a dirty game to say bye and nothing else ... .

"Tatyana P. #4327 who had mailed me before that she would like to prepare a dessert for us and I should please lick with my lips this dessert from her body ... She was not interested at all in me. She only wanted to attract me to come to Zhitomir, and she said that directly to me ... she came to the first meeting but very late, then she had no time and 2 times she cancelled the second meeting ... and finally she enjoyed her bubble and did not look in to my eyes and with a smile she rejected me fully."

Call me crazy, but is it necessary to spend this kind of money on a round the globe trip for this? I am certain there are plenty of women who will take your money and abuse you at home for free.

Prometheus

Goddiejens
06-06-2008, 03:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by skipped

goddiejens,
Have you posted your e-mail somewhere? I would like to get a copy from you if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks -Skipped


Hi Skipped,

my mail is jetobo at gmx dot de ... you only need to mail me your address in the USA and I will send you the DVDs. There is no problem for me. You will watch the first meeting with Marina in Kremenchug and the second meeting with Tatyana in Zhitomir.

@ Prometheus

Indeed I only can confirm what many others just said. You are very right. I can also go to a lady service here at my place in my country and drink a coffee with a beauty and leave a good amount of money to her ... it would be the same result!

Once again to all: Fly to Philippines. There are beautiful ladies who are really very interested in finding a good foreigner who make their life easier and just that's why they love guys like you and me, they are true and have family values.

Best regards,
Jens

Goddiejens
06-06-2008, 03:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by skipped

goddiejens,
Have you posted your e-mail somewhere? I would like to get a copy from you if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks -Skipped


Hi Skipped,

my mail is jetobo at gmx dot de ... you only need to mail me your address in the USA and I will send you the DVDs. There is no problem for me. You will watch the first meeting with Marina in Kremenchug and the second meeting with Tatyana in Zhitomir.

@ Prometheus

Indeed I only can confirm what many others just said. You are very right. I can also go to a lady service here at my place in my country and drink a coffee with a beauty and leave a good amount of money to her ... it would be the same result!

Once again to all: Fly to Philippines. There are beautiful ladies who are really very interested in finding a good foreigner who make their life easier and just that's why they love guys like you and me, they are true and have family values.

Best regards,
Jens

Prometheus
06-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Jens,

Sympathies, and I mean you no disrespect. I think we have all been fed a bowl of lies by these "introduction" services, who exist only to separate sincere Western men from their money. Slavic women are NOT submissive, are NOT homebodies, and are NOT looking to make good wives for some lucky man. For the most part they are just looking for a ticket out of the homeland.

By additional way of warning, I have a friend who married a Filipino woman, and I have to tell you it was just as hellish as any of the Russian marriages I have seen. They are divorced now, but that bitch screamed at him, beat him, broke things around the house, etc. It was scary, scary stuff. At least the Russian woman are easy to look at.

Best foreign marriage I have seen is my friend who married a smart attractive woman from Shanghai China. I think he just got lucky. I don't translate this to mean everyone should marry a Chinese woman, just that occasionally an international marriage can work.

I am approaching 9 years off and on with my Russian. Still a love/hate relationship in every sense of the word. Sometimes she can really surprise me and be tender and loving. Sometimes she can really surprise me and be cruel and ruthless. It's like a box of chocolates, said Forrest Gump, you never know what you are going to get.

Prometheus
06-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Jens,

Sympathies, and I mean you no disrespect. I think we have all been fed a bowl of lies by these "introduction" services, who exist only to separate sincere Western men from their money. Slavic women are NOT submissive, are NOT homebodies, and are NOT looking to make good wives for some lucky man. For the most part they are just looking for a ticket out of the homeland.

By additional way of warning, I have a friend who married a Filipino woman, and I have to tell you it was just as hellish as any of the Russian marriages I have seen. They are divorced now, but that bitch screamed at him, beat him, broke things around the house, etc. It was scary, scary stuff. At least the Russian woman are easy to look at.

Best foreign marriage I have seen is my friend who married a smart attractive woman from Shanghai China. I think he just got lucky. I don't translate this to mean everyone should marry a Chinese woman, just that occasionally an international marriage can work.

I am approaching 9 years off and on with my Russian. Still a love/hate relationship in every sense of the word. Sometimes she can really surprise me and be tender and loving. Sometimes she can really surprise me and be cruel and ruthless. It's like a box of chocolates, said Forrest Gump, you never know what you are going to get.

Goddiejens
06-08-2008, 05:20 PM
Hi Prometheus,

thanks for your posting.

Well, I will not say that all filipinas are angels from paradise... . I only say that for english speaking guys it is very simple to travel there and find a good girl or lady there. Not in AC, in Angeles City, at the bars ... there you can find prostitutes. It is not necessary to bring her home so fast and marry in high speed. Take time, guys! And check well because fire is the devil's only friend ... . And in Western countries such a lady might adapt fast and is influenced by the "helper industries" of women organizations, lawyers, authorities, whatever.

I suggest you the homepage of some Germans who escaped to Pattaya in Thailand after divorce and separation trouble with their foreign ladies in Germany. Detlef and Holger. Detlef does not like to pay horrible amounts of alimentation money monthly to his Uganda ex girlfriend who has one daughter with him and may be another baby born now ... Holger took his son who he created with a Chines lady but she preferred a Chinese mafioso in Germany ... you find all pics on ... pls google thailand bestattungen ... you see a part of a tv report about "bad fathers" (who do not pay alimentation rates monthly) ... in tv the guy says "Look yourself. Is this luxory?" because his ex wife said he would live in luxory and travels a lot and bought an expensive motorcycle and so on ... and then you see Detlef who answer the question "No bad feeling about your behaviour?" with the words "Not at all" ... and you see the guys sitting there at Detlef's b-day-party watching the tv report and having fun ... .

Detlef now has a girlfriend, filipina, she lives without family in Thailand. Thailand has no laws about alimentation payments after divorce or separation. Philippines has not such laws. Now Detlef will become father again there ... . They try to cause him trouble but he puts all messages from German authorities online!

This is a good homepage. Helpful for men!

Goddiejens

Goddiejens
06-08-2008, 05:20 PM
Hi Prometheus,

thanks for your posting.

Well, I will not say that all filipinas are angels from paradise... . I only say that for english speaking guys it is very simple to travel there and find a good girl or lady there. Not in AC, in Angeles City, at the bars ... there you can find prostitutes. It is not necessary to bring her home so fast and marry in high speed. Take time, guys! And check well because fire is the devil's only friend ... . And in Western countries such a lady might adapt fast and is influenced by the "helper industries" of women organizations, lawyers, authorities, whatever.

I suggest you the homepage of some Germans who escaped to Pattaya in Thailand after divorce and separation trouble with their foreign ladies in Germany. Detlef and Holger. Detlef does not like to pay horrible amounts of alimentation money monthly to his Uganda ex girlfriend who has one daughter with him and may be another baby born now ... Holger took his son who he created with a Chines lady but she preferred a Chinese mafioso in Germany ... you find all pics on ... pls google thailand bestattungen ... you see a part of a tv report about "bad fathers" (who do not pay alimentation rates monthly) ... in tv the guy says "Look yourself. Is this luxory?" because his ex wife said he would live in luxory and travels a lot and bought an expensive motorcycle and so on ... and then you see Detlef who answer the question "No bad feeling about your behaviour?" with the words "Not at all" ... and you see the guys sitting there at Detlef's b-day-party watching the tv report and having fun ... .

Detlef now has a girlfriend, filipina, she lives without family in Thailand. Thailand has no laws about alimentation payments after divorce or separation. Philippines has not such laws. Now Detlef will become father again there ... . They try to cause him trouble but he puts all messages from German authorities online!

This is a good homepage. Helpful for men!

Goddiejens

Prometheus
06-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Paraguay has no extradition treaty with any country. I had a client with a bad marriage. He emptied the bank accounts, took the kids, and settled in a nice little hacienda in the hills down there with a local woman. Wife tried everything short of a hit man to get him out, but nothing worked. Ten years later he came back after the kids were in college. Pretty extreme, but sometimes extreme situations call for extreme measures. [}:)]

Prometheus
06-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Paraguay has no extradition treaty with any country. I had a client with a bad marriage. He emptied the bank accounts, took the kids, and settled in a nice little hacienda in the hills down there with a local woman. Wife tried everything short of a hit man to get him out, but nothing worked. Ten years later he came back after the kids were in college. Pretty extreme, but sometimes extreme situations call for extreme measures. [}:)]

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 02:37 PM
Eustace Haney Strikes Again.

Eustace was getting a little depressed. Our hog and moonshine boy from Hooterville has not had a bite from UALadys or UADreams in months. Was it because they finally read his profile which concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST," or perhaps the Ukrainian lovelies had no need for a 56 year old dirt farmer with a handful of Viagra.

BUT NO! The real reason was Eustace had forgotten that he changed his email account to a little used one at Excite.com!!! When Eustace opened his inbox this a.m., as Gomer used to say, "SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!" Here a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Yulia G. #4379
Eustace Haney
11 June 2008

Good Morning, my future Lover!


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I know that it is not the right thing to take the first step in relations for a decent girl of my age, but even at this age I understand that time never waits. The day is wonderful and I am in high spirits! The sun touches my face, I feel its warmth, I notice that people smile at me.. it is such a wonderful life!!! I am an active girl, my parents love me, my friends respect me, I have a serious hobby ? belly dancing. I?ve been a member of a professional dancing group, we participate in many shows! I never spend my birthday alone, I always have somebody to speak to, people listen to my advice. In general I have a very full and balanced life, there is time for studies and for parties :). But in the whirl of events I cannot but hear this quite but determined voice ? I miss a true gentleman who would make my life complete! I know that the start of my letter may sound a little bit arrogant, I call you ?my future lover? even not seeing you in person. We haven?t looked yeast in each others eyes, we haven?t had romantic walks in nature where no one could see us, we haven?t talked about each other?s most secret dreams.. we haven?t kissed yet! But this is our future, so tell me, do you want such a future for us? I dream to raise a family, to have children, and after a long day put my head on your shoulder with pleasant confidence in the future with you! I hope to hear your thoughts in return, Regards, Yulia


From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Irina L. #9902
Eustace Haney
08 June 2008

to be a single young lady without love is not so good


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Hello !To be a young lady is good, but to be a single young lady without love is not so good ;) I think I am not alone in my desire to find love or there would be no such sites ;) So, if we both are here it means we are looking basically the same: meaningful relationship based on true love. Am I right? ;) Ok, just a few words about me for you to decide if I can be the woman of your dreams :) I like singing (my favorites are Madonna, Kylie Minogue, Elton John and the Beatles), I like learning new things. I like going to fitness club to do some sports and dance. Oriental dances are now very popular here and they help me to be flexible, ;)charming and gracious. I am very traditional when it comes to family and relations, I think there is nothing better than friendly family. In all cultures different as they are family is a real value and life always proves that it is impossible to be happy without one. I work as an accountant for the wholesale company and live with my mother, grandmother, step-father and a younger brother in a flat. My family is very friendly and we are fond of spending time with each other. I like to treat then with something I cook myself, it?s a special pleasure to do something for people you love.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Irinyshka P. #9347
Eustace Haney
05 June 2008

I will make you feel...


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Hi to you, my new friend! Tell me, what do you see, when looking at me? I am a girl who is very kind and sincere, I like to tell truth to people and I am searching for a man who will be kind too. I appreciate inner beauty more then appearance. I will make you happy doing it very simply and with a great pleasure, because I like you and I think that communicating with you more we will feel that we have something in common. Do you want to be happy? You will be happy only with me... Happiness cannot be traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual experience of living every minute with love, grace and gratitude. Happiness for me is in everything I do in this life. I like to dance, like to spend my time outside in the fresh air. Travelling brings me a special feeling of knowing more about this interesting world. But doing all this alone....this is not what I dreamt about... You are such a man that cannot be alone, you have to be with me.... I want to feel your presence in my life, I want to share my life with such a man like you, a man, who could be the authority for me, my best friend, adviser and lover. I will do everything for you, will fulfil every your wish, even will leave my country for you... All for love, all for you... Write me, Irinushka



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Tatyana S. #2729
Eustace Haney
27 May 2008

I like you!


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THIS MAIL WAS TRANSLATED FOR TATYANA


Hello.How are you? How is your life? I like you!

I hope you are still available, aren't you? I am very new is this agency and in this search in general and actually I dont know how to get your attention, but I will just try to be myself.

It will be a pleasure for me to get acquainted with you. I dont want to bother you, though I want to tell you so much about my life and I want so much you to tell me about your life and your interests and your thoughts. And I want to ask you many questions, but lets leave them for the next mail if you answer me.

Have a wonderful day! Look forward to hear from you, your friend, Tanya.

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Irochka M. #4365
Eustace Haney
22 May 2008

Where are you, my other half?


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My name is Irina. I've been looking for you for a long time and I am happy that you've appeared in my life, my dear prince. I am 20 and I am impatiently waiting to give my love and kindness to you. I want to be attentive and thoughtful. I am a sincere and kind person, I want to be by your side forever and always, I am willing to bring you love and happiness. I am a very active person, I love sports and I watch well after myself. But I also would like to watch after you and to take care of you, my dear. I can imagine, how early in the morning you are opening your half-sleepy eyes and I kindly whisper to you: ?Good morning, my Love? and I bring a cup of hot fresh coffee into the bed. Do you like coffee in the morning? Do you like when you get it right into the bed? [:p] Do you think it is romantic? I think I can make each day unforgettable for you, full of love and happiness. I love fruit and pizza by the way:) Do you like pizza with mushrooms? Can you imagine that two of us will go to gather mushrooms? I love doing this. Did you ever try? We can gather them ourselves and afterwards prepare pizza together:) I love to cook and I even agree to cook every day for you, I can make a romantic supper each day. Do you like children? I love kids, and for you, my dear, I will bring a son and we will bring him up together. He will definitely look like you, and as I think, kids are happiness, and our son will be the crop of our happiness and true love. And if you would ever get fever, I wouldn't leave you even for a minute, I will take care of you, will warm you with my love and thoughtfulness. I indeed hope that you will answer back, my dear! I am impatiently waiting for a minute when we will get a change to know each other better... I hope for the soonest reply, my dear! I kiss you sweetly and softly many times!! Irina.

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Vita N. #9342
Eustace Haney
15 May 2008

Hi! Let's try to start romance;)


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Hello, my new dear friend. I've chose you from the men here on this site, because I am sure you are special... I am that kind of woman too)... Let's check it?...Tell me, what is love for you? What woman do you want to find here?... Real romance for me means thinking of the other person, the one you love. Remembering the little things, every words ans gestures of your loving one and trying to make his (her) life happier when it is needed most. Romance is a Loving Gift! A very loving gift that helps generate loving feelings and keeps love alive. So...may be let's try to start our romance;) I am a very creative person and my work is closely connected with art. I am a jeweller and I adore my job. I do waxen samples of little things which in future will be golden and silver decorations of a person. I like everything beautiful and like to create this beauty. Also, I like to draw... I can do my best, can inspired more when I start to dream... And when I am at the fresh air, my imagination becomes even better. I like nature, like flowers... So, as you've noticed I am a kind of a romantic girl... Tell me more about you and your character?... I am interested)... Will be very glad to receive letter from you)... Sincerely yours, Vita

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 02:37 PM
Eustace Haney Strikes Again.

Eustace was getting a little depressed. Our hog and moonshine boy from Hooterville has not had a bite from UALadys or UADreams in months. Was it because they finally read his profile which concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST," or perhaps the Ukrainian lovelies had no need for a 56 year old dirt farmer with a handful of Viagra.

BUT NO! The real reason was Eustace had forgotten that he changed his email account to a little used one at Excite.com!!! When Eustace opened his inbox this a.m., as Gomer used to say, "SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!" Here a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!

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Yulia G. #4379
Eustace Haney
11 June 2008

Good Morning, my future Lover!


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I know that it is not the right thing to take the first step in relations for a decent girl of my age, but even at this age I understand that time never waits. The day is wonderful and I am in high spirits! The sun touches my face, I feel its warmth, I notice that people smile at me.. it is such a wonderful life!!! I am an active girl, my parents love me, my friends respect me, I have a serious hobby ? belly dancing. I?ve been a member of a professional dancing group, we participate in many shows! I never spend my birthday alone, I always have somebody to speak to, people listen to my advice. In general I have a very full and balanced life, there is time for studies and for parties :). But in the whirl of events I cannot but hear this quite but determined voice ? I miss a true gentleman who would make my life complete! I know that the start of my letter may sound a little bit arrogant, I call you ?my future lover? even not seeing you in person. We haven?t looked yeast in each others eyes, we haven?t had romantic walks in nature where no one could see us, we haven?t talked about each other?s most secret dreams.. we haven?t kissed yet! But this is our future, so tell me, do you want such a future for us? I dream to raise a family, to have children, and after a long day put my head on your shoulder with pleasant confidence in the future with you! I hope to hear your thoughts in return, Regards, Yulia


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Irina L. #9902
Eustace Haney
08 June 2008

to be a single young lady without love is not so good


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Hello !To be a young lady is good, but to be a single young lady without love is not so good ;) I think I am not alone in my desire to find love or there would be no such sites ;) So, if we both are here it means we are looking basically the same: meaningful relationship based on true love. Am I right? ;) Ok, just a few words about me for you to decide if I can be the woman of your dreams :) I like singing (my favorites are Madonna, Kylie Minogue, Elton John and the Beatles), I like learning new things. I like going to fitness club to do some sports and dance. Oriental dances are now very popular here and they help me to be flexible, ;)charming and gracious. I am very traditional when it comes to family and relations, I think there is nothing better than friendly family. In all cultures different as they are family is a real value and life always proves that it is impossible to be happy without one. I work as an accountant for the wholesale company and live with my mother, grandmother, step-father and a younger brother in a flat. My family is very friendly and we are fond of spending time with each other. I like to treat then with something I cook myself, it?s a special pleasure to do something for people you love.

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Irinyshka P. #9347
Eustace Haney
05 June 2008

I will make you feel...


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Hi to you, my new friend! Tell me, what do you see, when looking at me? I am a girl who is very kind and sincere, I like to tell truth to people and I am searching for a man who will be kind too. I appreciate inner beauty more then appearance. I will make you happy doing it very simply and with a great pleasure, because I like you and I think that communicating with you more we will feel that we have something in common. Do you want to be happy? You will be happy only with me... Happiness cannot be traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual experience of living every minute with love, grace and gratitude. Happiness for me is in everything I do in this life. I like to dance, like to spend my time outside in the fresh air. Travelling brings me a special feeling of knowing more about this interesting world. But doing all this alone....this is not what I dreamt about... You are such a man that cannot be alone, you have to be with me.... I want to feel your presence in my life, I want to share my life with such a man like you, a man, who could be the authority for me, my best friend, adviser and lover. I will do everything for you, will fulfil every your wish, even will leave my country for you... All for love, all for you... Write me, Irinushka



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Subject:
Tatyana S. #2729
Eustace Haney
27 May 2008

I like you!


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THIS MAIL WAS TRANSLATED FOR TATYANA


Hello.How are you? How is your life? I like you!

I hope you are still available, aren't you? I am very new is this agency and in this search in general and actually I dont know how to get your attention, but I will just try to be myself.

It will be a pleasure for me to get acquainted with you. I dont want to bother you, though I want to tell you so much about my life and I want so much you to tell me about your life and your interests and your thoughts. And I want to ask you many questions, but lets leave them for the next mail if you answer me.

Have a wonderful day! Look forward to hear from you, your friend, Tanya.

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To:
Date:

Subject:
Irochka M. #4365
Eustace Haney
22 May 2008

Where are you, my other half?


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My name is Irina. I've been looking for you for a long time and I am happy that you've appeared in my life, my dear prince. I am 20 and I am impatiently waiting to give my love and kindness to you. I want to be attentive and thoughtful. I am a sincere and kind person, I want to be by your side forever and always, I am willing to bring you love and happiness. I am a very active person, I love sports and I watch well after myself. But I also would like to watch after you and to take care of you, my dear. I can imagine, how early in the morning you are opening your half-sleepy eyes and I kindly whisper to you: ?Good morning, my Love? and I bring a cup of hot fresh coffee into the bed. Do you like coffee in the morning? Do you like when you get it right into the bed? [:p] Do you think it is romantic? I think I can make each day unforgettable for you, full of love and happiness. I love fruit and pizza by the way:) Do you like pizza with mushrooms? Can you imagine that two of us will go to gather mushrooms? I love doing this. Did you ever try? We can gather them ourselves and afterwards prepare pizza together:) I love to cook and I even agree to cook every day for you, I can make a romantic supper each day. Do you like children? I love kids, and for you, my dear, I will bring a son and we will bring him up together. He will definitely look like you, and as I think, kids are happiness, and our son will be the crop of our happiness and true love. And if you would ever get fever, I wouldn't leave you even for a minute, I will take care of you, will warm you with my love and thoughtfulness. I indeed hope that you will answer back, my dear! I am impatiently waiting for a minute when we will get a change to know each other better... I hope for the soonest reply, my dear! I kiss you sweetly and softly many times!! Irina.

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Date:

Subject:
Vita N. #9342
Eustace Haney
15 May 2008

Hi! Let's try to start romance;)


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Hello, my new dear friend. I've chose you from the men here on this site, because I am sure you are special... I am that kind of woman too)... Let's check it?...Tell me, what is love for you? What woman do you want to find here?... Real romance for me means thinking of the other person, the one you love. Remembering the little things, every words ans gestures of your loving one and trying to make his (her) life happier when it is needed most. Romance is a Loving Gift! A very loving gift that helps generate loving feelings and keeps love alive. So...may be let's try to start our romance;) I am a very creative person and my work is closely connected with art. I am a jeweller and I adore my job. I do waxen samples of little things which in future will be golden and silver decorations of a person. I like everything beautiful and like to create this beauty. Also, I like to draw... I can do my best, can inspired more when I start to dream... And when I am at the fresh air, my imagination becomes even better. I like nature, like flowers... So, as you've noticed I am a kind of a romantic girl... Tell me more about you and your character?... I am interested)... Will be very glad to receive letter from you)... Sincerely yours, Vita

Goddiejens
06-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Hello guys,

here you find my travel report Ukraine with many pics:

http://www.umdiewelt.de/Europa/Osteuropa/Ukraine/Reisebericht-3572/Kapitel-0.html

Goddiejens

Goddiejens
06-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Hello guys,

here you find my travel report Ukraine with many pics:

http://www.umdiewelt.de/Europa/Osteuropa/Ukraine/Reisebericht-3572/Kapitel-0.html

Goddiejens

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 03:34 PM
The Incredible Eustace Haney Strikes Again (Part II)

Nothing beats the bite of some cold moonshine on a Hooterville morning, that is, unless it is a hot evening with a UALadys honey out in the pigsty for a three way with Arnold Ziffle!

If you are new to all this, Eustace Haney is a 56 year old hog farmer, with the hankering for some Ukrainian lovely to tend his still. Problem is, his profile concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST!"

But the gals of UALadys will not be deterred from their mission. Here is a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!


From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Inna N. #8512
Eustace Haney
12 May 2008

Hello, dear stranger!


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Hello, dear stranger! Are you eager to have good relation aiming at creating a strong family? Would you like to be happy and to have somebody near you who is able to make you happy? If yes ? we are created for each other! So let me introduce myself. I am a common Ukrainian girl who just wants to be happy! I live in a wonderful town of Berdichev. My family consists of mother, father and me. I adore nature and like to play with my cats, I also like to grow plants and flowers! I work as a manager and i like my work, it gives me the opportunity to help people with my skills, gives me the opportunity to reveal my talents. As for my free time, I don't have much of it. But I usually try to spend it with family and friends. I don't have many friends, but those who are among them are decent and interesting people, and what is important ? true friends. I also like to devote my free time to my hobbies planting and growing flowers! But I would like to have a person near me who I can dedicate my talents, my free time and my love to! I don't like to stay at the same place and try to develop and go further in everything! I believe in love as a pure and sacral feeling which makes people happy and which helps to create ? new families, new masterpieces, new ideas, new emotions, new horizons of life! I believe that we have much in common and hope that we can start communicating to reveal ourselves to each other! I hope to hear from you soon! With hope and love, Sincerely, Inna.

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Galina V. #8507
Eustace Haney
08 May 2008

Can we be friends and maybe even more?!


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Hi! My name is Galina. I am a student of the State University in Zhitomir! I was born not far from Berdichev in a little village where I have spend my childhood. Though I am the only one child in the family, I have a lot of cosines with whom I like to spend time! I have rather agreeable character but in some cases I can stay for my interests. I am very joyful person and I don't like to be sad! Sometimes I am filled with such emotions that I want to dream and think about life then I go for a walk in the park. Sometimes I think why I am walking in this park alone and without my beloved. Why we don't have romantic dates under the stars and don't walk under the rain. I am looking for a guy, who could understand me and share my feelings. I hope you will send me a letter, my dear stranger and we will understand each other. I will be very glad to know you better! Galina.



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Subject:
Inna F. #4364
Eustace Haney
05 May 2008

Where are you, my sweetest?...


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Hi. My name is Inna and I am 20. I really wish to find my second half and I hope to meet you through this site. I indeed hope it is you. I've been waiting really long for you! Why did you stay silent for such a long time? I truly believe that you are eager to meet your love and feel real emotions just as much as I do. I am sure that you are looking for me, just for me! Than why can't two loving hearts meet and be together? I am a very open-minded, self-confident person, I always try to achieve my goals. And I must say that most of the times I manage to do this! I am a very active person, I love to read and to draw. I adore nature and fresh air! Just imagine, autumn, lots of leaves on the ground, all of them are so beautiful.. and just the two of us!.. There is no one around to disturb us, we can only hear how leaves are being moved under feet with whisper.. The air is so fresh that it is even cold, however we don't feel this.. You are hugging me so tight that we don't feel cold, we feel great and the day is great and life is great! I hope that you also like nature. And do you like kids? I truly believe that children are the flowers of our life. They also need attention, growing up, and warmth... I dream of a beautiful house, where love and friendship will live, where happiness will fly everywhere, where I could take care of my family! Take care of You, of our Kids.. I want to LOVE YOU! Just don't forget that I like to have some free time for myself as well:) I like to take care of my figure and my outlook! That's why we will eat healthy and I will cook!! I will treat you with many delicious meals. Do you agree? Ok, my sweetest, I will be more that ever happy to know more about you! I am waiting for your answer, my dear! I kiss you many times! Your Inna.

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Subject:
Karina N. #8509
Eustace Haney
02 May 2008

Hello stranger!


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Hello stranger! You have probably seen my photos and maybe even heard my voice on the video and now I will write something about myself. I am a future doctor. I like to help people and make them happy! I know how to be delicate and reserved and these qualities are very important for my profession. I am dreaming about stable and full life, provided with all necessary things for it. I like the atmosphere of the house and I know how to create comfort and happiness at home. I am Sagittarius by horoscope, I have a light and pleasant character. I am intelligent and I know how to underline my advantages. I like traveling and meet new people, to know about new traditions and the mode of life of others. Well, the other informations you will know about me, when you write to me!.. Karina


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Subject:
Tatiana M. #4376
Eustace Haney
29 April 2008

Happiness is a journey, not a destination!


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Hello! I have been thinking a lot before writing first and at last I pucked up all my courage and decided to make this first step! You probably have the same reasons of being here. For everything there is an approprite time: a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to love and a time to hate; a time to seek and a time to give up a hope; a time to breake down and a time to build our future.... I am looking for my secong half on whom I can rely on in the future, the one with whom I can create a small paradise on the Earth! I hold on to the opinion that we should choose our life partners carefully, because they will be responsible for about 90% of our happiness and misery. Do you agree with it? Honestly, I don't want a man I can live with but a man I cannot live without. He should possess such qualities as responsibility, honesty. I would like my partner to be determined, to have a good sense of humor, to be ready to any adventures our life can propose! I want to fall in love with him and melt in his embraces! I heard once that behind every great man there is a great woman, but it is wrong. I wouldn't want me standing behind my second half but beside him. I think it is fair. It seems that I look younger than my age and I don't want to hide that I am very glad about it! :-)))) I am 24 years old but I have managed to know what it is, when your expectations are not approved. From every misfortune I usually try to learn a lesson. I have understood one thing: we should love deeply and passionatly. We might get hurt but it is the only way to live life completely. Sometimes we forget about it and give up but I prefer to move on! I am very active by nature. I can't sit at one place for a long time. My friends say that I am like an energetic toy! :-)))) There are so many things in life I would like to experience with my special man!............ So now I will ask you something: Would you like a woman who's been around the world? Would you like a woman who is like a little girl? Would you like a woman who is strong and tough? Would you like a woman who is never ever get enough?! ........if the answer is YES, don't hesitate!!! Tatiana.

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 03:34 PM
The Incredible Eustace Haney Strikes Again (Part II)

Nothing beats the bite of some cold moonshine on a Hooterville morning, that is, unless it is a hot evening with a UALadys honey out in the pigsty for a three way with Arnold Ziffle!

If you are new to all this, Eustace Haney is a 56 year old hog farmer, with the hankering for some Ukrainian lovely to tend his still. Problem is, his profile concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST!"

But the gals of UALadys will not be deterred from their mission. Here is a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!


From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Inna N. #8512
Eustace Haney
12 May 2008

Hello, dear stranger!


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Hello, dear stranger! Are you eager to have good relation aiming at creating a strong family? Would you like to be happy and to have somebody near you who is able to make you happy? If yes ? we are created for each other! So let me introduce myself. I am a common Ukrainian girl who just wants to be happy! I live in a wonderful town of Berdichev. My family consists of mother, father and me. I adore nature and like to play with my cats, I also like to grow plants and flowers! I work as a manager and i like my work, it gives me the opportunity to help people with my skills, gives me the opportunity to reveal my talents. As for my free time, I don't have much of it. But I usually try to spend it with family and friends. I don't have many friends, but those who are among them are decent and interesting people, and what is important ? true friends. I also like to devote my free time to my hobbies planting and growing flowers! But I would like to have a person near me who I can dedicate my talents, my free time and my love to! I don't like to stay at the same place and try to develop and go further in everything! I believe in love as a pure and sacral feeling which makes people happy and which helps to create ? new families, new masterpieces, new ideas, new emotions, new horizons of life! I believe that we have much in common and hope that we can start communicating to reveal ourselves to each other! I hope to hear from you soon! With hope and love, Sincerely, Inna.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Galina V. #8507
Eustace Haney
08 May 2008

Can we be friends and maybe even more?!


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Hi! My name is Galina. I am a student of the State University in Zhitomir! I was born not far from Berdichev in a little village where I have spend my childhood. Though I am the only one child in the family, I have a lot of cosines with whom I like to spend time! I have rather agreeable character but in some cases I can stay for my interests. I am very joyful person and I don't like to be sad! Sometimes I am filled with such emotions that I want to dream and think about life then I go for a walk in the park. Sometimes I think why I am walking in this park alone and without my beloved. Why we don't have romantic dates under the stars and don't walk under the rain. I am looking for a guy, who could understand me and share my feelings. I hope you will send me a letter, my dear stranger and we will understand each other. I will be very glad to know you better! Galina.



From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Inna F. #4364
Eustace Haney
05 May 2008

Where are you, my sweetest?...


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Hi. My name is Inna and I am 20. I really wish to find my second half and I hope to meet you through this site. I indeed hope it is you. I've been waiting really long for you! Why did you stay silent for such a long time? I truly believe that you are eager to meet your love and feel real emotions just as much as I do. I am sure that you are looking for me, just for me! Than why can't two loving hearts meet and be together? I am a very open-minded, self-confident person, I always try to achieve my goals. And I must say that most of the times I manage to do this! I am a very active person, I love to read and to draw. I adore nature and fresh air! Just imagine, autumn, lots of leaves on the ground, all of them are so beautiful.. and just the two of us!.. There is no one around to disturb us, we can only hear how leaves are being moved under feet with whisper.. The air is so fresh that it is even cold, however we don't feel this.. You are hugging me so tight that we don't feel cold, we feel great and the day is great and life is great! I hope that you also like nature. And do you like kids? I truly believe that children are the flowers of our life. They also need attention, growing up, and warmth... I dream of a beautiful house, where love and friendship will live, where happiness will fly everywhere, where I could take care of my family! Take care of You, of our Kids.. I want to LOVE YOU! Just don't forget that I like to have some free time for myself as well:) I like to take care of my figure and my outlook! That's why we will eat healthy and I will cook!! I will treat you with many delicious meals. Do you agree? Ok, my sweetest, I will be more that ever happy to know more about you! I am waiting for your answer, my dear! I kiss you many times! Your Inna.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Karina N. #8509
Eustace Haney
02 May 2008

Hello stranger!


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Hello stranger! You have probably seen my photos and maybe even heard my voice on the video and now I will write something about myself. I am a future doctor. I like to help people and make them happy! I know how to be delicate and reserved and these qualities are very important for my profession. I am dreaming about stable and full life, provided with all necessary things for it. I like the atmosphere of the house and I know how to create comfort and happiness at home. I am Sagittarius by horoscope, I have a light and pleasant character. I am intelligent and I know how to underline my advantages. I like traveling and meet new people, to know about new traditions and the mode of life of others. Well, the other informations you will know about me, when you write to me!.. Karina


From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Tatiana M. #4376
Eustace Haney
29 April 2008

Happiness is a journey, not a destination!


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Hello! I have been thinking a lot before writing first and at last I pucked up all my courage and decided to make this first step! You probably have the same reasons of being here. For everything there is an approprite time: a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to love and a time to hate; a time to seek and a time to give up a hope; a time to breake down and a time to build our future.... I am looking for my secong half on whom I can rely on in the future, the one with whom I can create a small paradise on the Earth! I hold on to the opinion that we should choose our life partners carefully, because they will be responsible for about 90% of our happiness and misery. Do you agree with it? Honestly, I don't want a man I can live with but a man I cannot live without. He should possess such qualities as responsibility, honesty. I would like my partner to be determined, to have a good sense of humor, to be ready to any adventures our life can propose! I want to fall in love with him and melt in his embraces! I heard once that behind every great man there is a great woman, but it is wrong. I wouldn't want me standing behind my second half but beside him. I think it is fair. It seems that I look younger than my age and I don't want to hide that I am very glad about it! :-)))) I am 24 years old but I have managed to know what it is, when your expectations are not approved. From every misfortune I usually try to learn a lesson. I have understood one thing: we should love deeply and passionatly. We might get hurt but it is the only way to live life completely. Sometimes we forget about it and give up but I prefer to move on! I am very active by nature. I can't sit at one place for a long time. My friends say that I am like an energetic toy! :-)))) There are so many things in life I would like to experience with my special man!............ So now I will ask you something: Would you like a woman who's been around the world? Would you like a woman who is like a little girl? Would you like a woman who is strong and tough? Would you like a woman who is never ever get enough?! ........if the answer is YES, don't hesitate!!! Tatiana.

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Goddiejens,

Great travelogue. Would have enjoyed more photos of the local ladies and less of the local architecture! Are you listening PeopleSmoks? Where is that guy anyway?

Prometheus

Prometheus
06-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Goddiejens,

Great travelogue. Would have enjoyed more photos of the local ladies and less of the local architecture! Are you listening PeopleSmoks? Where is that guy anyway?

Prometheus

Goddiejens
06-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Hi Prometheus,

I don't know where Peoplesmokes now is. I hope that he will be back here with us soon.

Goddiejens

Goddiejens
06-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Hi Prometheus,

I don't know where Peoplesmokes now is. I hope that he will be back here with us soon.

Goddiejens

Prometheus
06-16-2008, 11:35 AM
I haven't heard from him since he said he was leaving for Ukraine two months ago. I've sent him private emails as well that have not been replied to, so I hope he is happy rather than in trouble.

Prometheus
06-16-2008, 11:35 AM
I haven't heard from him since he said he was leaving for Ukraine two months ago. I've sent him private emails as well that have not been replied to, so I hope he is happy rather than in trouble.

donicova
06-16-2008, 06:20 PM
From:donicova
To:
Date:june 16th 2008

Subject:??ers the scammer again
Irochka M. #4365
Dominique
16 June 2008

I can make you the happiest man!


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I have read your profile and i understood that you are the man I have been looking for!

I decide to write you first because i want to make a first step and take a chance, because who knows. maybe we are those who were meant to be together...

My name is Irina. I've been looking for you for a long time and I am happy that you've appeared in my life, my dear prince. I am 20 and I am impatiently waiting to give my love and kindness to you. I want to be attentive and thoughtful. I am a sincere and kind person, I want to be by your side forever and always, I am willing to bring you love and happiness.

I am a very active person, I love sports and I watch well after myself. But I also would like to watch after you and to take care of you, my dear. I can imagine, how early in the morning you are opening your half-sleepy eyes and I kindly whisper to you: ??Good morning, my Love?? and I bring a cup of hot fresh coffee into the bed.

Do you like coffee in the morning? Do you like when you get it right into the bed? Do you think it is romantic?

I think I can make each day unforgettable for you, full of love and happiness.

I love fruit and pizza by the way:) Do you like pizza with mushrooms?

Can you imagine that two of us will go to gather mushrooms? I love doing this. Did you ever try? We can gather them ourselves and afterwards prepare pizza together:)

I love to cook and I even agree to cook every day for you, I can make a romantic supper each day.

Do you like children? I love kids, and for you, my dear, I will bring a son and we will bring him up together. He will definitely look like you, and as I think, kids are happiness, and our son will be the crop of our happiness and true love.

And if you would ever get fever, I wouldn't leave you even for a minute, I will take care of you, will warm you with my love and thoughtfulness.

I indeed hope that you will answer back, my dear!

I am impatiently waiting for a minute when we will get a change to know each other better...

I hope for the soonest reply, my dear! I kiss you sweetly and softly many times!!

Irina.

donicova
06-16-2008, 06:20 PM
From:donicova
To:
Date:june 16th 2008

Subject:??ers the scammer again
Irochka M. #4365
Dominique
16 June 2008

I can make you the happiest man!


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I have read your profile and i understood that you are the man I have been looking for!

I decide to write you first because i want to make a first step and take a chance, because who knows. maybe we are those who were meant to be together...

My name is Irina. I've been looking for you for a long time and I am happy that you've appeared in my life, my dear prince. I am 20 and I am impatiently waiting to give my love and kindness to you. I want to be attentive and thoughtful. I am a sincere and kind person, I want to be by your side forever and always, I am willing to bring you love and happiness.

I am a very active person, I love sports and I watch well after myself. But I also would like to watch after you and to take care of you, my dear. I can imagine, how early in the morning you are opening your half-sleepy eyes and I kindly whisper to you: ??Good morning, my Love?? and I bring a cup of hot fresh coffee into the bed.

Do you like coffee in the morning? Do you like when you get it right into the bed? Do you think it is romantic?

I think I can make each day unforgettable for you, full of love and happiness.

I love fruit and pizza by the way:) Do you like pizza with mushrooms?

Can you imagine that two of us will go to gather mushrooms? I love doing this. Did you ever try? We can gather them ourselves and afterwards prepare pizza together:)

I love to cook and I even agree to cook every day for you, I can make a romantic supper each day.

Do you like children? I love kids, and for you, my dear, I will bring a son and we will bring him up together. He will definitely look like you, and as I think, kids are happiness, and our son will be the crop of our happiness and true love.

And if you would ever get fever, I wouldn't leave you even for a minute, I will take care of you, will warm you with my love and thoughtfulness.

I indeed hope that you will answer back, my dear!

I am impatiently waiting for a minute when we will get a change to know each other better...

I hope for the soonest reply, my dear! I kiss you sweetly and softly many times!!

Irina.

Prometheus
06-19-2008, 02:47 PM
WORD IS OUT... HANEY IS HOT!

From: Dasha N. #8501
To: Eustace Haney
Date: 18 June 2008

http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/8501/915946_57760.jpg

Subject: Hello, my dear stranger.


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Hello stranger! My name is Dasha. I live in a little town Berdichev. It is situated 160 km from the capital of Ukraine ? Kiev. In Kiev I study at the University but on the correspondence courses. There are so many people around. I have very interesting and responsible work. I am a teacher of guitar in the musical school. Though I am very communicative person, sometimes I feel sad and lonely. Especially this feeling is very strong in autumn. I feel as if I am a little leaf who want to fall on the warm palm of the hand instead of the cold ground. I am a great romantic inside. I am looking for a man who could share my feelings. Do you have the same feelings from time to time? Matchmaking agency exists for creating a family and I want to find mine and only mine sweet half without making mistakes and without hurt. I hope to get honesty, mutual understanding and respect from you. Let's try to communicate! Dasha.

Prometheus
06-19-2008, 02:47 PM
WORD IS OUT... HANEY IS HOT!

From: Dasha N. #8501
To: Eustace Haney
Date: 18 June 2008

http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/8501/915946_57760.jpg

Subject: Hello, my dear stranger.


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Hello stranger! My name is Dasha. I live in a little town Berdichev. It is situated 160 km from the capital of Ukraine ? Kiev. In Kiev I study at the University but on the correspondence courses. There are so many people around. I have very interesting and responsible work. I am a teacher of guitar in the musical school. Though I am very communicative person, sometimes I feel sad and lonely. Especially this feeling is very strong in autumn. I feel as if I am a little leaf who want to fall on the warm palm of the hand instead of the cold ground. I am a great romantic inside. I am looking for a man who could share my feelings. Do you have the same feelings from time to time? Matchmaking agency exists for creating a family and I want to find mine and only mine sweet half without making mistakes and without hurt. I hope to get honesty, mutual understanding and respect from you. Let's try to communicate! Dasha.

David
07-06-2008, 02:28 PM
Well guys, I decided to go and visit the profile of this Dasha and there is such a girl with this ID number??!! Why is that? Does that mean that they deleted her profile or something like that? The girl who is with this ID number is quite cute, I must admit. Maybe I should go and see her? What do you guys think?

Cheers!

David
07-06-2008, 02:28 PM
Well guys, I decided to go and visit the profile of this Dasha and there is such a girl with this ID number??!! Why is that? Does that mean that they deleted her profile or something like that? The girl who is with this ID number is quite cute, I must admit. Maybe I should go and see her? What do you guys think?

Cheers!

Prometheus
07-10-2008, 06:08 PM
The point isn't that Dasha is HOT... the point is Haney is NOT!

We've got a smoking babe sending emails to a 67 year old hog farmer from Hooterville. Get it?

PeopleSmoks
07-10-2008, 07:23 PM
Hey Prometheus! Since my return from the "not quite so dead", I had a chance to see our new buddy David's posts prior to BIG BROTHER censoring them. It appeared to me that he is just a pitch-man for a sex-tourist website in Poltava, but I could be wrong... No I'm not!!!

He was basically quoting one passing thought from a previous posting, totally out of context adding an all too "witty" comment about it and then posting a standardized sales pitch with a link to a website.

I commented on the admin's censorship at psycho-b, with the hopes that I too would not be censored also. Post a comment about it as I did, a warning, whatever, but I personally think that kind of censorship is a little... Stalinistic?[8D]



Train returns

GMAN
09-01-2008, 02:54 AM
I have not written for awhile i kept my profile open at Uadreams and Ualadys i see they are using old introduction letters from girlsthey must be running out of ideas.

gtearne

Prometheus
09-10-2008, 02:43 PM
GMAN,

I just got a birthday reminder concerning a girl I wrote to five years ago "back in the day" (before the full nature and extent of CC's fraud was available). She's twenty-three today (for the fifth year in a row)!

Figure every "girl" on the site has a few interested parties sending in letters at $7 a pop. Assume that the 2500 number is accurate. One email per day, per model, equals $17,500 a day! Ten emails per day per model equals $175,000 a day. I tell you, we went into the wrong racket.

If the fraud model holds, it is only a matter of time before 70 year old babuskas, with more stretch marks than looks, squint into their monitors hacking out romantic missives for the naive willing to pay $7 to hear what the weather is like in Lugansk that day.

A sucker is born every minute. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Prometheus

PeopleSmoks
09-11-2008, 09:39 PM
Hey guys! There's a saying, "If you didn't see it the first time around, it's new to you!" Olga 1243, in 2005, can easily become Natalya 8549, in 2008!

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Prometheus
09-15-2008, 04:16 PM
The Incredible Eustace Haney Strikes Again (Part III)

Nothing beats the bite of some cold moonshine on a Hooterville morning, that is, unless it is a hot evening with a UALadys honey out in the pigsty for a three way with Arnold Ziffle!

If you are new to all this, Eustace Haney is a 56 year old hog farmer, with the hankering for some Ukrainian lovely to tend his still. Problem is, his profile concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST!"

But the gals of UALadys will not be deterred from their mission. Here is a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!


from: Irina R. #4369 +Add


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Hello, dear! My name is Irina, I live in Ukraine. Let me tell you a few words about myself. I am a very active person, I read a lot, and like to watch TV, to have rest at the seaside, I am fond of sophisticated food and nice music. I have much love inside me and I keep it for that man who can love me in return. I know that love is the sense of life, and it is the only thing that I miss very much in my life. I need an honest, caring, loving, tender and passionate man, who will accept me as I am, who will love and respect me. It is impossible to build relations without trust and support. I hope that I am the woman that can make your life happier. If I seem interesting to you, we can find out what the future has for us. We will find love if we try. With all my best, Irina

from: Yulia D. #9302 +Add


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Hello! My name is Yulia!!! The information in your profile differs much among a great number of primitive ones. It roused my interest and made me write you. I am very optimistic person, it helps me to live in this complicated world. I adore healthy way of life. I can cheer up the man I love and bring him in the world of emotional balance, peace and fantasies. Communication with different people brings me pleasure and new life experience. I consider myself to be a very sociable person. But I am a woman. What brings me happiness? It is different life details...small, so ordinary but true. I love pleasant and romantic surprises, novels and moves, sounds of favourite music, sport activity and dances. I like to cook something delicious and like to hear thanks instead. All these bring me joy and complete perception of life. Almost complete..What do I need to be absolutely happy? The answer is easy. I need a man. The special man for me. I am not looking for a perfect man, I am looking for one, who will make me happy. And I will give him all my care, understanding, faithfulness and loyalty, affection and tenderness in return. My man is the best, he is right in all his decisions. He will be authority number one for me. And from my side I will bring joy, warmth and cosiness to his house. By my side he will feel himself the most desirable man in the whole world. Do you have some doubts in my sincerity? Well, check me up)) If you are interested in communicating with such a woman as I am, just write me. I wish you all the best. Yulia!!!

from: Veronika B. #4386 +Add


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Good morning to you! Let me tell you a few words about myself. My name is Veronika. I want to meet a man with a kind heart, a sense of humor and desire to meet a girl of his dream: unique, kind, who is ready to share her own world, to open her soul and make a small Eden on a huge Planet.. I am a very active person; I love everything that life gives me, even if something goes wrong, I always smile, because I know that tomorrow will be better! Nobody found a key to my heart, but with hope I wait for that one and only man, who is tired of loneliness, who will find me and our happiness will lift us to the 7th heaven. Maybe it is you!!! Let me show you that everything you dream about its possible, and how wonderful this world can be! With many hopes, Veronika


from: Olesia B. #9307 +Add


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Hi lonely stranger!!! My name is Olesia. Olesia is a ukrainian name, you may call me Lesia. In you profile I have found something that impressed me a lot and made me write to you... I believe that it's destiny leads me to you. I'm a woman and I need someone to give my pure love and feelings. I want to devoted and caring wife, good and understanding friend, tempting and amusing woman. And I want to give all these qualities to you only. I believe that you are looking for someone like me. So I will be happy to share my life and love with you! Looking forward for your letter. Olesia !



from: Valyusha B. #4287 +Add
http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/4287/959121_76335.jpg
http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/4287/954907_39576.jpg

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Hello from Zhitomir, Ukraine from a single young lady. I understand that it might be not right to write this letter first, but I decided to take this brave step and right to you. It is very similar to my character, because I believe that if you want to reach something in this life than you should do act! I can't say that I am always so brave, but in my decision to write you a letter I definitely was. Life should be lived to the fullest and you live in harmony only when you reach your goals. I like to reach the goals I put for myself. Please let me introduce myself, my name is Valentina, and short name as my friends call me is Valyusha or just Valya. I am 26 years young, and I think that all other personal information you can read in my profile. But I don't know anything about you and that is why I would love to learn more. I will not ask any certain questions, because I don't know how to start, however in the next letters it is very possible that I will ask you many:-))) I always have something to say and something to ask. I can add that I am a creative person, and I consider it to be a good feature of my character, I like every expression of beauty. I came to the agency to change my life. I think it is a good way to do that, I can't say that my life is horrible or bad, but changes for better are certainly always great! The best change in my life will be meeting my second half. I want this to happen so much!!! I've had a bad experience in my previous marriage and I can definitely differ good from bad. I am not looking for a perfect man or for a prince on a white horse, they all are boring!!! I also can't say that he is a rich, smart or the most handsome, but I am looking for a person with a sense of humor, self-confident man and with serious intentions, what I call a real gentleman! It just seems to me that these features are more real in nowadays life. I don't like foolish people, though if they wouldn't exist, we couldn't differ the smart! I just think that there should be the bosses and the garbage cleaners, this is the harmony of human relations, it is the golden middle of life and its rules? I hope that my letter will be interesting to you, I know it is not a standard letter. And I certainly understand that you might be getting tons of letters from other women, but probably all of them start with My name is, or I live there, but I am not like that, you will never be bored or sad with me!!! If you will not answer me, I hope that your life will be happy and you will find what you are looking for. But I know that the one you search for is me:-) Meet you in the next letter then! Kisses and hugs, Valyusha.


from: Natalka L. #9355 +Add


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Hello! My name is Natalka, I am very nice to see you here, have a strong desire to know you better)...Today in the morning when I was drinking my fresh juice, some thoughts about my future came to my mind.I decided to write first to you, usually I don't do like this to men, I am shy a little, but in this case I decided not to be, I really liked you. The life is too short to be timid when you want something, what do you think?May be we could find some things in common and start a good friendship which may grow in something more adult? I think that there is no love from the first sight but there is a very strong feeling of likeness, then friendship and then love may come. I am a very kind-hearted girl, love life and good people.I think that we have to do something good every day, always have to be in a good mood, then life will be more easy and friendly to you). I dream to find a man here who will be older then me, who can show me what does real life and love mean and who can treat me as gentleman. I think such a man like you cannot be alone, you deserve to have a very nice woman, I deserve to be with a good man. I think we are made for each other. Hope to hear from you soon!!! Have a nice day, Natalka!

There are many more, of course. God, Eustace Haney ROCKS!!!

Prometheus

PeopleSmoks
09-15-2008, 07:14 PM
GO EUSTACE GO!!!!! I'm ready to give up super-heroing to become a pig farming, moonshining, con-artist, real estate broker like Eustace!

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Prometheus
09-16-2008, 01:32 AM
(Haney tries to pay his debt in merchandise)

Oliver: Mr. Haney, that pile of junk isn't worth $8.

Haney: To the unappraisable eye, yes. I had each and every one of these objects de art evaluated by an in-unpeachable source: the county tax assessor, or as we sometimes call him, Cousin Joe.

PeopleSmoks
09-19-2008, 12:04 AM
I usually barter with nude pics of oh so many scammers I have in my files!!![}:)]

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imported_uljoh
09-26-2008, 06:53 AM
Hi - I can tell you - I think Ive told you all before.
I got like 150 letters from this lady (Valyusha) - 1 per day - during a 3 months period - before I realized this wasnt serious

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

The Incredible Eustace Haney Strikes Again (Part III)

Nothing beats the bite of some cold moonshine on a Hooterville morning, that is, unless it is a hot evening with a UALadys honey out in the pigsty for a three way with Arnold Ziffle!

If you are new to all this, Eustace Haney is a 56 year old hog farmer, with the hankering for some Ukrainian lovely to tend his still. Problem is, his profile concludes, "THIS IS A TEST. DO NOT CONTACT ME UNLESS YOU ARE A SCAM ARTIST!"

But the gals of UALadys will not be deterred from their mission. Here is a just a short sampling of the many lovelies who are hankering for A TASTE OF HANEY!!!

- - - - - - - - -

from: Valyusha B. #4287 +Add
http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/4287/959121_76335.jpg
http://photo.ualadys.com/photos/0/4287/954907_39576.jpg

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Hello from Zhitomir, Ukraine from a single young lady. I understand that it might be not right to write this letter first, but I decided to take this brave step and right to you. It is very similar to my character, because I believe that if you want to reach something in this life than you should do act! I can't say that I am always so brave, but in my decision to write you a letter I definitely was. Life should be lived to the fullest and you live in harmony only when you reach your goals. I like to reach the goals I put for myself. Please let me introduce myself, my name is Valentina, and short name as my friends call me is Valyusha or just Valya. I am 26 years young, and I think that all other personal information you can read in my profile. But I don't know anything about you and that is why I would love to learn more. I will not ask any certain questions, because I don't know how to start, however in the next letters it is very possible that I will ask you many:-))) I always have something to say and something to ask. I can add that I am a creative person, and I consider it to be a good feature of my character, I like every expression of beauty. I came to the agency to change my life. I think it is a good way to do that, I can't say that my life is horrible or bad, but changes for better are certainly always great! The best change in my life will be meeting my second half. I want this to happen so much!!! I've had a bad experience in my previous marriage and I can definitely differ good from bad. I am not looking for a perfect man or for a prince on a white horse, they all are boring!!! I also can't say that he is a rich, smart or the most handsome, but I am looking for a person with a sense of humor, self-confident man and with serious intentions, what I call a real gentleman! It just seems to me that these features are more real in nowadays life. I don't like foolish people, though if they wouldn't exist, we couldn't differ the smart! I just think that there should be the bosses and the garbage cleaners, this is the harmony of human relations, it is the golden middle of life and its rules? I hope that my letter will be interesting to you, I know it is not a standard letter. And I certainly understand that you might be getting tons of letters from other women, but probably all of them start with My name is, or I live there, but I am not like that, you will never be bored or sad with me!!! If you will not answer me, I hope that your life will be happy and you will find what you are looking for. But I know that the one you search for is me:-) Meet you in the next letter then! Kisses and hugs, Valyusha.


/ Uljoh

Silver
09-26-2008, 07:12 AM
Hi guys...it has been a long time...

I received this from Valyusha two years and a half ago when she was 26...and it seems that still she is 26...

Hi, from a pretty blonde!
This mail was translated
for Valentine
from: Valentine B. #4287
to: Silver
date: 26 May 2006
Hello from Zhitomir, Ukraine from a single young lady. I understand that it might be not right to write this letter first, but I decided to take this brave step and right to you. It is very similar to my character, because I believe that if you want to reach something in this life than you should do act!
I can?t say that I am always so brave, but in my decision to write you a letter I definitely was. Life should be lived to the fullest and you live in harmony only when you reach your goals. I like to reach the goals I put for myself.
Please let me introduce myself, my name is Valentina, and short name as my friends call me is Valyusha or just Valya. I am 26 years young, and I think that all other personal information you can read in my profile.
But I don?t know anything about you and that is why I would love to learn more.
I will not ask any certain questions, because I don?t know how to start, however in the next letters it is very possible that I will ask you many:-))) I always have something to say and something to ask.
I can add that I am a creative person, and I consider it to be a good feature of my character, I like every expression of beauty.
I came to the agency to change my life. I think it is a good way to do that, I can?t say that my life is horrible or bad, but changes for better are certainly always great!
The best change in my life will be meeting my second half. I want this to happen so much!!! I?ve had a bad experience in my previous marriage and I can definitely differ good from bad.
I am not looking for a perfect man or for a prince on a white horse, they all are boring!!! I also can?t say that he is a rich, smart or the most handsome, but I am looking for a person with a sense of humor, self-confident man and with serious intentions, what I call a real gentleman! It just seems to me that these features are more real in nowadays life.
I don?t like foolish people, though if they wouldn?t exist, we couldn?t differ the smart! I just think that there should be the bosses and the garbage cleaners, this is the harmony of human relations, it is the golden middle of life and its rules?
I hope that my letter will be interesting to you, I know it is not a standard letter. And I certainly understand that you might be getting tons of letters from other women, but probably all of them start with My name is, or I live there, but I am not like that, you will never be bored or sad with me!!!
If you will not answer me, I hope that your life will be happy and you will find what you are looking for. But I know that the one you search for is me:-)
Meet you in the next letter then!
Kisses and hugs,
Valyusha.

Silver
09-26-2008, 07:23 AM
my mistake...she is 28 now but she is using the same letter than 2 years ago...

PeopleSmoks
09-26-2008, 10:08 AM
Hey guys! If this is her "introduction" letter, I don't really find it so strange that it's a standardized letter. For an intro, it's certainly much easier to use a form letter, and this applies to our intro letters to FSUWs as well.

What's disturbing is that she's been on UAL, now UAD, for two years without finding a suitable western mate. Certainly, an attractive girl wouldn't have any trouble finding a generous number of suitors, and a serious and/or real girl should be able to find one to get her green card from.[B)]

So, why Valyusha B. #4287 is still "available", is what's really disturbing and gives a person cause to wonder... A LOT!!!!!!!!![V]

Train returns

PeopleSmoks
10-04-2008, 03:38 PM
Hey guys! UADreams has opened in China!!! Next stop... The Phillipines![V]

Train returns

Prometheus
10-06-2008, 03:47 PM
UALADYS EXPOSED!

FROM I KILL SPAMMERS BLOG:

Monday, March 31, 2008

"Hello! I am bored this evening."

One of the more persistent types of spam out there lately is for a type of "Russian dating" sites by the name of "UALadys."

Their pitch nearly always looks like this:

Subject lines seen in numerous spam messages:

Hello!
pics
Why aren't you replying to me?
Can we talk?
Long time, no talk
I find you interesting
Where have you been?
We talked on the web.


Hello! I am bored this evening. I am nice girl that would like to chat with you.
Email me at Elizabeth@jolasite.com only, because I am using my friend's email to
write this. Wanna see some pictures of me?


As far back as July 2007, the messages looked like this:


Do not ignore me please,
I found your email somewhere and now decided to write you.
Let me know if you do not mind. If you want I can send you some pictures of me.
I am a nice pretty girl. Don't reply to this email.
Email me direclty at Elena@supervisioncare.info


They've also infiltrated several blogs and comment forms. You can see some examples here and here. As you'd expect, there are thousands of them.

I know this is from UALadys because I infiltrated their affiliate program. It's also very easy to track this down in terms of recruiting of illegal spammers by using that old standby: bulkerforum.biz.

Bulkerforum member "bulker" hits people up on the open forum to mail for his dating program


bulker

Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 23

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:07 am
Post subject: Special dating program

Looking for some good mailers who can push the volume on highly converting dating program. Instant payments.
- you get the results, you get paid the same day


Then in private communication only, he describes how the spamming operation works:


yes, you wanted to find out about the dating program. the thing is pretty simple.
you send an email telling people that some girl wants to talk/chat to them and that if they don't mind, then they need to email at some email address that you get access to. you get paid for every 10k unique replies.
10k replies pays you $1500. i do it with some people. what good about this program is that you get the same minute you achieve something.
so like you do 5k replies today, i can pay the same minute. the other thing is that these kind of emails that contain no link to the website and look like personal emails do pass filters very easily and do not score anything on spamassin and do not get listed on razor for ages.


Which would explain why they routinely keep showing up to several accounts I and many of my colleagues monitor.

So nutshell: the domains are throwaways and bulletproof. They are merely used to capture "live" email addresses which are then fed over to someone to respond to individually.

Why the idiots who are spamming on their behalf don't clean their lists, and further insist on mailing to a large number of people who absolutely have no interest in their crappy "dating service" is unknown to me.

But lets continue.

Attempts to contact anyone at UALadys regarding this spam results in denial of any problem. That's when and if you get a response. See blog posting here, for example.

Assume for a moment that you actually do want to communicate with them? You send a response to Elizabeth@jolasite.com and wait. A few days later you will get a response, which indicates that "she" is interested in learning more about you.


From Marina Pretty

Hi my new friend

Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short letter. It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter. I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets. The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends. I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here, it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know my plans. I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through will suggest me some locations. It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.

So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa and all travel documents + some suggested placed to work in. My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there for three months, too. She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and after it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.

She was very tired of course but made very good money there.It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think it is the right way for me , I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better place .I want to repeat the same way,it is only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my life with good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know that I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince and I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life! This is why I am going to go through the same way. Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.

I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly right now) and I would like to be sure that I have the man who waits for me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time together to get to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too. I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!

I write to you with my new mailbox [address removed], please write letters now only on this mailbox.

I will wait your next letter.
Kiss you , Marina (this is my name)!
PS here are my pics
I hope they to you will like.
I hope you to me will answer
Kiss Marina


It also includes a couple pictures.

Do a google search for the second sentence in that message ("It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.", with quotation marks around it, so it's the exact match) and see what comes up: dozens of replies which have been posted in several attempts to figure out who is sending these messages, and why. All of them are related to reporting of marriage agency scams.

See a complete synopsis here. (He even got a response which used the exact same name as mine - Marina!)

UALadys.com temporarily changed their name to "UADreams.com" in January 2008, but quickly switched back. This was apparently due to some kind of conflict with the owners. They also apparently operate "RULadys.com". (Considering they must be profitable, perhaps they can hire someone who knows how to spell the plural of "lady". :) )

How do we know this is from UALadys?

Over the past year or more, I received enough spam for this crap that I was able to correlate a large amount of information about it. (Didn't even take very long.)

For a period of time, the throwaway domains which were used in the email addresses led to websites. At first these were for the long-dead online pharmacy "Pharma Shop" (see the Spam Wiki entry for that one here), then later it led to UALadys.com front-end pages, usually all showing the same fake "ad" for a girl on that site who never was actually present in the site.

If the goal was to turn into a signup on that site, it wasn't a very effective tactic. Instead it appears that they just want to reel you in slowly, eventually getting you to purchase "gifts" for the girl you correspond with. That portion of this scam is well documented on several marriage scam sites on the web. This discussion thread has some of the more interesting comments regarding how the whole thing works. (It's a long discussion, and it uncovers that the company used to be an even scammier operation known as "Confidential Connections". The girls themselves are only allowed to communicate with you via a "handler" who does all the translating and letter writing on their behalf. They also encourage you to purchase gifts for the girls. Apparently any attempt to meet the actual girl leads to a sudden "trip" or other abrupt disappearance with no logical explanation.

In short: there is only one use for these spam addresses: as fodder for filling out fake orders on illegal pharmacy sites you also get spammed with. :)

thatcrazy
03-28-2009, 04:37 PM
http://www.ualadys.com/engl/welcome_testimonial.rpx

Kinda hard to believe these guys are really scammers. They have video testimonials now from visitors.

P.S - I was also there in Zhitomir about 3-4 years ago when it was still called Confidential Connections.. my trip went fine.

PeopleSmoks
03-29-2009, 02:50 PM
Hey thatcrazy! These guys may not be scammers, but they may have been scammed. The thing is that we will probably never know how things worked out for them. Remember that the agency's disclaimer is that they introduce people to each other and aren't responsible for how things work out.

An intro to a paid pro-dater means yup, you met a real girl and went out with her, but it doesn't mean much more than that. I went out with a girl last year that I met on a different site. We had a great time! She was smiling the entire time. At this point, I figure she was smiling about the cash she was going to split with the interpreter. When I got home, she soon disappeared.

Prior to her disappearance, the agency asked me to write a testimonial. I declined. Within a month, the girl had just up and moved to another city! She had all of my personal contact info, but nothing.

I also believe it was last year that Goddiejens wrote about the various agencies in each city being very different in the quality of services. More and more, it seems to be no more than a crap shoot as to what will happen when writing to a girl in the FSU.

imported_uljoh
06-18-2009, 09:57 AM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus
[b]The Incredible Eustace Haney Strikes Again (Part III)
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from: Valyusha B. #4287

Hello from Zhitomir, Ukraine from a single young lady. I understand that it might be not right to write this letter first, but I decided to take this brave step and right to you..........
......But I know that the one you search for is me:-) Meet you in the next letter then! Kisses and hugs, Valyusha.
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Eustace Haney ROCKS!!!
Prometheus

Well Valusha obviosly wrote this letter three years ago.
No she has changed name: Valentine B. and the Agency let her show up sometimes on first page as an intruduction view for us innocent customers ; )
She wrote me also some 50 letters back in 2006 [:I]

/ Uljoh

swede
06-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Aaaaah, those were the days... back in 2006, when a man could have fantasies without paying an agency for them.

Prometheus
03-26-2012, 06:17 PM
It still goes on. I get 15 new emails a week, hundreds, if not thousands in the past decade. All from beautiful women looking for a taste of rock god Eustace Haney. Beware.