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dublindevil
01-10-2007, 08:10 PM
This new Topic has been started, where UALadys leads on from CC, to show that UALadys is now the new topic. ? This would also show up on Google etc, and therefore be seen by others. ?
<h3>New visitors please go to the topic "Scam or not", then review "Confidential Connections" which is now closed, then select "UALadys.com (Ex.Confidential Connections)". </h3>

<h4>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h4>

Prometheus
01-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Pulled the Google up on ualadys.com. Did get the Russian site mentioned. Did a Google translation of the Russian text and this is what came up:

I am looking for : one man; Girl
between18 and 35

Relationship : Friendship and communication; Correspondence

The day : I, the "friends? (like late fall and late challenge)

Languages : Russian; English; Ukrainian

Housing conditions : Our apartment

Their goal : Success in career; Mental well-being; Creative implementation

The web site : http://love.nv-spravka.ru/page/ ualadys

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 09:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Pulled the Google up on ualadys.com. Did get the Russian site mentioned. Did a Google translation of the Russian text and this is what came up:

I am looking for : one man; Girl
between18 and 35

Relationship : Friendship and communication; Correspondence

The day : I, the "friends? (like late fall and late challenge)

Languages : Russian; English; Ukrainian

Housing conditions : Our apartment

Their goal : Success in career; Mental well-being; Creative implementation

The web site : http://love.nv-spravka.ru/page/ ualadys

I tried it but my browser cant find it or log on to it ?
I see there is a gap before ualadys so I removed the gap but it still cant find it. ? Maybe your browser is better than mine. :D

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Prometheus
01-10-2007, 09:52 PM
Here's the page that was cached by Google:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:1huoOfPtfAIJ:love.nv-spravka.ru/page/ualadys/+ualadys&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3

Prometheus
01-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Translation of cached page:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2f209%2e85%2e165%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3 dcache%3a1huoOfPtfAIJ%3alove%2env%2dspravka%2eru%2 fpage%2fualadys%2f%2bualadys%26hl%3den%26gl%3dus%2 6ct%3dclnk%26cd%3d3

siberianhusky
01-10-2007, 10:00 PM
This is good that you have made another topic but with ualadys with it so everyone can see what is going. Just before the CC site went under I sent Elena a gift (I believe they were flowers, will check) so lets see if she has thanked me for them in her loving letter to me. Look I have received another letter from Elena G. #1587 today so I will post it here.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello my dear _______!

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter.

I missed you so much within the several days while the Agency was closed. As I understood, the Agency had some technical troubles and now it even has some other name. You imagine, I came up to the Agency and the office was closed and I can?t catch them on the phone. And I can?t express my gladness when they called me in the morning today and told that everything is all right and I can come to the office to get your letter.

You know, within these days I worried so much, I was frightened with a thought that I can loose you. We correspond via the Agency and we have no other way of communication, but they told me to day not to worry, everything will be all right, they just had some temporary problems.

_______, dear, I have not much time today as I have come to the Agency during my lunch break. But I want you to get my letter as soon as possible.

How are you doing, my dear? How is your mood? I hope your mood is still a holiday one!

Concerning myself, for some reasons I think that the holidays were such a long time ago? I celebrated New Year at home with my parents. My brother and his girlfriend came to visit us and we had a family celebration and met the New Year. By the way, so you know that according to the Chinese calendar this is a year of Fire Pig and it is very favorable in all senses, so I wish all your dreams and beginnings come true and everything you?ve decided may happen too!

Concerning Christmas, I have also spent that holiday in a family circle. Right on Christmas it was the official acquaintance of my brother girlfriend?s parents and the parents of mine. They invited our family to their place for Christmas and we celebrated together.

My dear _______, you know, I have picked a magic wish while the clock was counting minutes till the New Year. Of course I can?t tell you what wish it was as it won?t happen in that case, but that wish is about you and me.

_______, my dear, I wish you a wonderful day and I am waiting for your letters?

I have to go to work now.

Sending you my kiss.

Lena

Well as you can see she has completely forgetten about the wonderful gift I sent her for her countries Christmas (Jan. 7) and this does not surprise me now but it is to late. Remember I did all this prior to finding this forum about CC which is now ualadys.

Dublin I have all the receipts from all the gifts I have sent will they be any use in the future? What about this guy who's cousin is an International Lawyer, does he seem legit to talk to?

Thanks, Siberian

siberianhusky
01-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Hey Prometheus

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://love.nv-spravka.ru/page/ualadys/

I have tried to get into this link but it is a dead for me. Any ways it is a strange little site. I've tried hitting the top 100 but it is an error messege so if you have any luck in finding more about this it would be great and it adds to our evidence in the future.

Siberian


quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Translation of cached page:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2f209%2e85%2e165%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3 dcache%3a1huoOfPtfAIJ%3alove%2env%2dspravka%2eru%2 fpage%2fualadys%2f%2bualadys%26hl%3den%26gl%3dus%2 6ct%3dclnk%26cd%3d3

Kevin
01-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Siberianhusky

I have sent flowers to my girl before and know that it can take a day or two before she might get them. With everything going on with CC, it may take another day. I'm not saying she did, I'm just saying that she could have not gotten the gift yet. Also you should get an email stating that she recieved your gift. Did you get an email from CC/UALADYS saying she recieved the gift?

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 10:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Translation of cached page:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2f209%2e85%2e165%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3 dcache%3a1huoOfPtfAIJ%3alove%2env%2dspravka%2eru%2 fpage%2fualadys%2f%2bualadys%26hl%3den%26gl%3dus%2 6ct%3dclnk%26cd%3d3

Got it thanks. ! VERY interesting. :D So google translated the whole site. ! Seems like CC had a Ukraine site of UALadys and used that name to replace CC.. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Prometheus
01-10-2007, 10:37 PM
I have a T1 connection and it takes about 12 to 15 seconds to come up. So it could be a long wait depending on your connection speed. There's really not much to see since all the graphics are disabled by primary site being down.

We were discussing bad busienss practices, like taking the site down without warning customers, choosing a web name that is confusingly similar to a competitors (ualadys.com vs. ualady.com). Add sheer stupidity...

For example, the letter someone posted by a translator that "I came to get your letter, but the agency's doors were locked and the lights off..." Since when does someone lock the doors and turn off the lights because the server is being transferred??? Sheesh.

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 10:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

This is good that you have made another topic but with ualadys with it so everyone can see what is going. Just before the CC site went under I sent Elena a gift (I believe they were flowers, will check) so lets see if she has thanked me for them in her loving letter to me. Look I have received another letter from Elena G. #1587 today so I will post it here.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello my dear _______!

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter.

I missed you so much within the several days while the Agency was closed. As I understood, the Agency had some technical troubles and now it even has some other name. You imagine, I came up to the Agency and the office was closed and I can?t catch them on the phone. And I can?t express my gladness when they called me in the morning today and told that everything is all right and I can come to the office to get your letter.

You know, within these days I worried so much, I was frightened with a thought that I can loose you. We correspond via the Agency and we have no other way of communication, but they told me to day not to worry, everything will be all right, they just had some temporary problems.

_______, dear, I have not much time today as I have come to the Agency during my lunch break. But I want you to get my letter as soon as possible.

How are you doing, my dear? How is your mood? I hope your mood is still a holiday one!

Concerning myself, for some reasons I think that the holidays were such a long time ago? I celebrated New Year at home with my parents. My brother and his girlfriend came to visit us and we had a family celebration and met the New Year. By the way, so you know that according to the Chinese calendar this is a year of Fire Pig and it is very favorable in all senses, so I wish all your dreams and beginnings come true and everything you?ve decided may happen too!

Concerning Christmas, I have also spent that holiday in a family circle. Right on Christmas it was the official acquaintance of my brother girlfriend?s parents and the parents of mine. They invited our family to their place for Christmas and we celebrated together.

My dear _______, you know, I have picked a magic wish while the clock was counting minutes till the New Year. Of course I can?t tell you what wish it was as it won?t happen in that case, but that wish is about you and me.

_______, my dear, I wish you a wonderful day and I am waiting for your letters?

I have to go to work now.

Sending you my kiss.

Lena

Well as you can see she has completely forgetten about the wonderful gift I sent her for her countries Christmas (Jan. 7) and this does not surprise me now but it is to late. Remember I did all this prior to finding this forum about CC which is now ualadys.

Dublin I have all the receipts from all the gifts I have sent will they be any use in the future? What about this guy who's cousin is an International Lawyer, does he seem legit to talk to?

Thanks, Siberian


A terible letter. ! The usual junk stuff. I suppose if they have got away with it so far why not continue. ? I was wondering just how much of an affect we have had on CC. ? Reduced numbers. ? Reduced revenue ? I suppose only a little. :(
I would imagine that your receipts will be great. Hold on to them.
As for the Lawyer guy, well he is going to read this, so I hope he proves to be legit. !
This of course is the problem with these sites - who is legit, who is not legit, who is visiting from CC and UALady. Who is posting rubbish, who is really genuine, and so on. After all our experiences with CC its only human nature to suspect 'everything' and 'everybody'. :D
I am a bit concerned that the email addresses attached to our profiles are not working. Has 'anybody' ever received an email through this site. ? It seems to be almost impossible to contact anybody who runs the site. Surely somebody should be monitoring it and posting on the site from time to time, if only as a 'mod'. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-10-2007, 10:48 PM
Hey Kevin

Yes I have received all my confirmations from CC/ualadys before the shutdown. I have sent them an email in the support and they have not given me a complete answer yet so I will be waiting for the reply.

Siberian


quote:Originally posted by Kevin

Siberianhusky

I have sent flowers to my girl before and know that it can take a day or two before she might get them. With everything going on with CC, it may take another day. I'm not saying she did, I'm just saying that she could have not gotten the gift yet. Also you should get an email stating that she recieved your gift. Did you get an email from CC/UALADYS saying she recieved the gift?

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 10:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

I have a T1 connection and it takes about 12 to 15 seconds to come up. So it could be a long wait depending on your connection speed. There's really not much to see since all the graphics are disabled by primary site being down.

We were discussing bad busienss practices, like taking the site down without warning customers, choosing a web name that is confusingly similar to a competitors (ualadys.com vs. ualady.com). Add sheer stupidity...

For example, the letter someone posted by a translator that "I came to get your letter, but the agency's doors were locked and the lights off..." Since when does someone lock the doors and turn off the lights because the server is being transferred??? Sheesh.


So true. ! If your changing hosting companies you don't need to shut down the office. ! Even more reason to keep it open. ! We have not heard the last of CC and the changes yet. There will be masses more revalations as the days/weeks go bye. !

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 10:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

I have a T1 connection and it takes about 12 to 15 seconds to come up. So it could be a long wait depending on your connection speed. There's really not much to see since all the graphics are disabled by primary site being down.

We were discussing bad busienss practices, like taking the site down without warning customers, choosing a web name that is confusingly similar to a competitors (ualadys.com vs. ualady.com). Add sheer stupidity...

For example, the letter someone posted by a translator that "I came to get your letter, but the agency's doors were locked and the lights off..." Since when does someone lock the doors and turn off the lights because the server is being transferred??? Sheesh.


Have just sent you an email via this site. ! Please let us know if you receive it. ? Its only a 'test' email. !:)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-10-2007, 10:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

This is good that you have made another topic but with ualadys with it so everyone can see what is going. Just before the CC site went under I sent Elena a gift (I believe they were flowers, will check) so lets see if she has thanked me for them in her loving letter to me. Look I have received another letter from Elena G. #1587 today so I will post it here.

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello my dear _______!

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter.

I missed you so much within the several days while the Agency was closed. As I understood, the Agency had some technical troubles and now it even has some other name. You imagine, I came up to the Agency and the office was closed and I can?t catch them on the phone. And I can?t express my gladness when they called me in the morning today and told that everything is all right and I can come to the office to get your letter.

You know, within these days I worried so much, I was frightened with a thought that I can loose you. We correspond via the Agency and we have no other way of communication, but they told me to day not to worry, everything will be all right, they just had some temporary problems.

_______, dear, I have not much time today as I have come to the Agency during my lunch break. But I want you to get my letter as soon as possible.

How are you doing, my dear? How is your mood? I hope your mood is still a holiday one!

Concerning myself, for some reasons I think that the holidays were such a long time ago? I celebrated New Year at home with my parents. My brother and his girlfriend came to visit us and we had a family celebration and met the New Year. By the way, so you know that according to the Chinese calendar this is a year of Fire Pig and it is very favorable in all senses, so I wish all your dreams and beginnings come true and everything you?ve decided may happen too!

Concerning Christmas, I have also spent that holiday in a family circle. Right on Christmas it was the official acquaintance of my brother girlfriend?s parents and the parents of mine. They invited our family to their place for Christmas and we celebrated together.

My dear _______, you know, I have picked a magic wish while the clock was counting minutes till the New Year. Of course I can?t tell you what wish it was as it won?t happen in that case, but that wish is about you and me.

_______, my dear, I wish you a wonderful day and I am waiting for your letters?

I have to go to work now.

Sending you my kiss.

Lena

Well as you can see she has completely forgetten about the wonderful gift I sent her for her countries Christmas (Jan. 7) and this does not surprise me now but it is to late. Remember I did all this prior to finding this forum about CC which is now ualadys.

Dublin I have all the receipts from all the gifts I have sent will they be any use in the future? What about this guy who's cousin is an International Lawyer, does he seem legit to talk to?

Thanks, Siberian


A terible letter. ! The usual junk stuff. I suppose if they have got away with it so far why not continue. ? I was wondering just how much of an affect we have had on CC. ? Reduced numbers. ? Reduced revenue ? I suppose only a little. :(
I would imagine that your receipts will be great. Hold on to them.
As for the Lawyer guy, well he is going to read this, so I hope he proves to be legit. !
This of course is the problem with these sites - who is legit, who is not legit, who is visiting from CC and UALady. Who is posting rubbish, who is really genuine, and so on. After all our experiences with CC its only human nature to suspect 'everything' and 'everybody'. :D
I am a bit concerned that the email addresses attached to our profiles are not working. Has 'anybody' ever received an email through this site. ? It seems to be almost impossible to contact anybody who runs the site. Surely somebody should be monitoring it and posting on the site from time to time, if only as a 'mod'. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


Hey dublin

Yes if they are continuing to send letters obviously the numbers do not stack up against them. [V]

To my knowledge the email link here does not work as I have not received any email yet and I have sent out a couple to others here but have not received either. I know it is hard to verify who is legit or not but that is the risk we take when entering a forum.

Siberian

imported_admin
01-10-2007, 11:28 PM
Hi siberianhusky,

There is a daily relay limitation for our forum. We are going to encrease the number of emails sent per day from/to forum members and we'll fix this problem within the next 2 days. So you'll receive all letters with delay. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Best regards,
Stop-Scammers.com Team

dublindevil
01-10-2007, 11:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by admin

Hi siberianhusky,

There is a daily relay limitation for our forum. We are going to encrease the number of emails sent per day from/to forum members and we'll fix this problem within the next 2 days. So you'll receive all letters with delay. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Best regards,
Stop-Scammers.com Team

Ah. you have appeared at last. ! Have you noted how the pages are going right off the screen. Its very difficult to view postings. ?
I hope its not my browser. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

warpnacell
01-11-2007, 02:04 AM
I have been reading these comments now for a few days and decided to throw some comments of my own in. When i saw some of the letters that were copied and pasted i was surprised but yet somehow expected it coming. In anycase i just wanted to let you know what has happened to me the last few days now. I wrote the girl i have been writing to for almost 2 yrs or so now telling her im having serious doubts on her being honest or not. I explained how i saw the exact same letters she wrote me posted on a web site from some other girl to the man she was writing. I told her i have 3 email credits left and she had better do some fast explaining if she wanted to keep staying in touch with me. Anyway after i wrote this letter and sent it,,,my email credit went down as it always does, but then, my letter was deleted and i got my credit back. I rewrote it again and sent it off,, and not a word back. If you ask me, i think they are having a group meeting trying to figure out how the heck there gonna get out of this mess there in.
When i find out more i will let you know.

Jackspades
01-11-2007, 03:16 AM
See I have not had these problems with the Argentine site. There was only one incidence where I got a duplicate email, and that was from a girl that had responded to me first. That guy ralf is right, never respond to the girls that respond to you first. The letters I get are always specific, they are not fluffy dreamy, they are actually pretty hard core, I have heard bitching, I have heard complaining about jobs, I have heard specifics about school and studying, about family life, all out of questions I asked, so I buy it. But the Ukraine site, I told you, one girl wrote to me, after she was aggravated with what I said in my last email, she wrote me back a month later and sent me pictures and the email was as if nothing happened and she spoke about how she was in town and everyone was watching a squirell in the street. It was as if she just dropped acid and then started to write an email. It was very cracked out. Since that point, and by the way, I also spoke with Elena G, the famous Elena G, and her emails were the worst, she never answered any questions. I am under the impression Elena G is a fictional character. The Argentin girls I speak to, it is like night and day compared to the ukraine site. Which is a shame because the Ukraine girls I think are prettier and more docile. I have found that the Argentine girls seem to be aggressive and pushy. But they seem like fun.

DareBare
01-11-2007, 03:41 AM
Hello Gentlemen,

I have been following this string for a bit since the situation of the CC website going down. I have been communicating with a few ladies at that organization and began to feel that something was not right with some of the letters. With one of them, at this point I cannot prove whether she is or is not legit, and I am working on this matter (as you will see below). I will be sure to let all of you know the outcome...

(I do recall someone mentioning that they have information available on some of the women on the CC/UA site. I would be interested in receiving an e-mail from you to see if you are aware of one that I am corresponding the most with in Kharkov at this time. Thanks.)

And I would be willing to send any information that you could utilize in your lawsuit if needed. I have a bunch of letters saved in case this whole thing proves to be a bust.

Anyway, my point being for joining this forum was to let you know I sent a letter to the support team after reading the information posted on the previous forum. I received a response from them. I did not think I had seen any information about this posted in the forum. They state they sent this to all of their members...
--------------------
Hello,

Could you please explain to me what has been happening with your website over the past week?
I did not receive any notification of it being changed? That is not very professional.
I see that I have received 1 video credit? Why is that?
Becuase it has taken awhile to receive my video from the lady?
I am supposed to be receiving a personalized video from ________, in Kharkiv, who is to create a video for me...Is there some problem with this happening?
She informed me that she would make it before the New Year, which I assumed she was coordinating with the Agency about the shoot.
I look forward to hearing your responses. Thanks,
-------------------------------
10 January 2007
Elena Alejnik
Trips coordinator
----------------------------
Hello, dear ____.
Thank you for e-mailing us and for using our services.

Here is the letter that was sent to all our customers, we are sorry to hear it didn\'t reach you and we are resending it to to you:

Dear _______!

First of all we congratulate you with a Happy New Year and a Merry Christmas!

On this wonderful holiday, we are happy to inform you, that as of December 31,2006 Confidential Connections (and all its branches) have passed to a new management company IISPP INC and a new owner, IISPP INC

We have worked hard for 24 hours a day to make all the necessary changes to the sites and all the systems and we are glad to announce to you that the new sites ARE RUNNING ALREADY and you can freely use all our services now! New re-branding name of the site is UAladys.com

We at IISPP INC being a team of professionals, having a great experience, set a mission to raise quality of our customer\'s service.

We bring our deepest apologies for the temporal break in the former site\'s operation. Working day and night, our team has transferred all the old owner\'s databases to our new servers. It will substantively raise the quality and speed of the site!

We guarantee that all payments are restored in the full value that you paid. The whole correspondence, photo and video materials, and also condition of your private accounts on the site are remaining intact and you are able to continue communication with the ladies when you wish!

We have notified all ladies in advance about temporal break of correspondence. Please don\'t worry, ladies know about the reason of letters delay and are waiting for your return!

We ask you to accept 1 photo and 1 video credit to your profile as a gift from the new management company when you log in.

______, if you have personal propositions, remarks or suggestions regarding making our work better and more qualitative we will accept your opinion with the high attention and respect and will certainly take it into account while planning the new work strategy. You can pass a remark on our site in Support section.

We hope for the successful collaboration with you in the future. We will do everything possible to help you in finding your soul mate.

Sincerely and wish best wishes

UA Ladies Team
---------------------------

I do apologize if this has already been posted and I missed it.

I had also received a response from the "Agency" that I would receive the video by the end of the week...we will see. I am not holding my breath at this point...

Fortunately, I have not sunk a lot of dollars into this company, so I do not feel that 'vested' with this company. I remember someone talking about a "more legit" operation in the UA. I would appreciate if you could send me that web site to check out.

I do think it is pretty 'scammy' that CC/UA has total control of the communications and will not let you purchase a phone number or address...you would think that after awhile they would let you do this - for a price!

Thanks to everyone posting, I have enjoyed reading the information, and it has been a good reminder for "buyer beware!"

warpnacell
01-11-2007, 03:42 AM
rofl,,,, yup i got the squirrel email from my mystery writer also. Im seriously considering buying a airpump, It would have been cheaper then all the money i spent on emails. J/K about the airpump.Im trying to lighten the mood for all the guys who are feeling sick to there stomach about all this.

From Russia without Love
01-11-2007, 04:16 AM
I see there are several people posting here from the USA. Since money has exchanged between CC and USA residents, I am fairly certain this is inter-state commerce. This makes any illegal activity Federal violations by CC. The FTC may come into play here also. I'm not pretending to be a legal expert but this is inter-state commerce and CC must have violated some laws here. Inter-state Commerce, Fraud, extortion. Do USA people have the grounds for a Class Action case? This is just an opinion, anybody agree with me?

OK, we have all been scammed by them. We all agree on this. We have proved this by exposing all the bogus letters. Now our energy should be on prosecution of these SOB's

BSS

Glimmertwin34
01-11-2007, 07:31 AM
HIYA Everyone!

Thanks Dublin Devil for starting this new site. Hopefully it will do some good and stop someone from getting scammed!

It appears to me that a lot of guys on this site are still living on their dream and still have doubt about CC or UA or what ever the flavor of the day is for these scam artists.

I just spent an hour reading all the posts that showed up while I was out of the USA. Yes, I went on vacation...to Cozumel...very nice and I certainly was not getting scammed there!

I know many people feel hurt and probably kind of foolish for wasting your time and money. I see that many do not want to expose the woman you are writing too. It is like you are still trying to protect her and still hoping that she is "real." I am sure she is, but not like what you think she is.

I was communicating with a girl that I met through a regular...cost free...website. This woman is from Muldova..next to the Ukraine. She writes me all the time, but they are short and to the point letters with fairly good english. I asked her for her mailing address and she gladly sent it along with her cell phone number. She also uses Yahoo and I see her on yahoo through her webcam. Why am I telling you this? I am telling you this because just about every woman below the mid-30's knows some English. I have been to Bulgaria, Romania and Russia and they all knew enough English to communicate. They learn it in school. It may be a little rough, but it is known.

We are all here to help each other out and the only way you can do that is to post who you were talking with and some of their letters. I have seen the squirrel story, the fishing story and the lady asking for coins story. I have also had stories about a hurrendous bus ride and many, many more.

If anyone wants pictures of the Elena G vacation, the Daria P beach trip, the Elena R I made these for you, the Alyonka you are my future....feel free to email me and I will send them to you. I do not remember who had the pictures of Miss 4001, but I would like to see those.

The bottom line is that these women do exist, they just do not exist in the way that they have made you feel. Go to the Ukraine during the summer...and go to the beach...there you will find plenty of women that you can enjoy and maybe find the right one.

Jim

Ralf S.
01-11-2007, 07:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jackspades



I have found that the Argentine girls seem to be aggressive and pushy. But they seem like fun.




Splendid! You're talking me into it man. :D

Ralf S.



No bullets for Chaingun

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 08:41 AM
I have just received this letter while reading this forum and thought everyone would enjoy reading this...:)


11 January 2007 03:20:41

THank you very much!


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The letter was translated for Valyusha by Diana


My dear ________!

Thank you very much for your gift! They told me about a surprise waiting for me from you but I was not able to come to the office yesterday ? I was a bit ill. They also told me that you wanted to give me a giraffe. It was so touching! You definitely know my weakness for giraffes. ;) But they also said they were not able to find any giraffe in our city (I think I bought the last one ;) so they asked me what else I would like to get except the giraffe ? I chose a teddy bear. I hope you are not against of it. ;) So today in the morning, I managed to come here on my way to the shop and saw that a very cute bear was waiting for me. You know, he even looks like you a little bit ? he is as cute as you. ;)

So, thank you a lot for your care. It was very kind of you, dear _______. I hug and kiss you thousands times!

Tenderly, Valyusha


I will add that I sent this gift out almost a week ago before the shutdown of CC and I am just now getting a thank you letter for it. Why is it that I received an email from CC notifying me she had received my gift on January 5, 2007 (paid for on Jan. 3)? Are you telling me that it took almost a week after the Jan 5 notification email to get to her, horrible just horrible business. Is there a shortage of this particular stuffed animal in the whole country that it took this long?


About Elena G. #1586

I want to add that the reason that it seemed Elena G. #1586 and I hit it off was that we have the same birthday and that's it! I remember she talked about it constantly knowing she had found someone in this world she can share this special day with and how glorious it would be to celebrate this day forever, but I know now it was only to lure me in to receive a percentage of the profit she made from me.

I have three email credits left should I just use them to share my anger or just hit the refuse to reply button, decisions-decisions.

As anyone can see I am not afraid to share what ladies screwed me over!!!!

Siberian

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 09:12 AM
Is anyone having trouble with the page size on this topic. ? Since yesterday it has gone mad for me and scrolled right off the screen. I have to use the scroll bar to see all the text and its mighty annoying. ! Is it the site, or my own browser ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Ralf S.
01-11-2007, 09:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky



I have three email credits left should I just use them to share my anger or just hit the refuse to reply button, decisions-decisions.



Write to a girl not in the "Big 4" Top-100 branches (Kharkov, Poltava, Simferopol, Zhitomir). :)

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 09:53 AM
I have three email credits left should I just use them to share my anger or just hit the refuse to reply button, decisions-decisions.

As anyone can see I am not afraid to share what ladies screwed me over!!!!

Siberian


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dont waste your money. ! I appreciate they are only credits and they have your money, but I would just wait. you might need them later. ?
Never know what might turn up and then find you need a credit. Why write back when we know its all a scam ? Good luck.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Kevin
01-11-2007, 10:14 AM
I keep hearing about this squirrel story and remember my girl putting something like it in the letter to me. I will look for it and post email when I find it.

Does any body remember when they got this story?

My emails don't have all this fluffy stuff in it like "dear" in it 10 time in 1 letter but she goes into the Zhitomir office. I haven't wrote to her since jan 3rd and haven't recieved any from her either. I don't know if I should write to her and play stupid and ask her what has happen to CC/UALADYS and she what she says?

UALADYS server seems to be down this morning I can't get anything and it is the middle of the day in Ukraine.

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 10:24 AM
The UAladys site is down but do not know why as I was in the middle of copying my emails from the ladies. This is what it comes up with when I go to the page...

Err: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (113)")]
err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

Any one have this problem?

Siberian

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 10:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by Kevin

Since the server was down I found where I saved all the emails I have written to her in a file. Here is the email she sent teling me about a squirrel.

Is this the same story as every one else has gotten?

28 August 2006

#4252 Hello, Kevin!

This letter was translated for Daria by Sergio

Hello, ______!

Thank you for your letter. How are you?

My weekend and celebration of the Independence Day went well. I read, went to the movies. You understood me right: I am an Art Instructor:-))

And 1st of September is an annual traditional holiday in lives of all who study and teach. Each morning when I go to work through the park(I live in 30 minutes walk from the Architectural College) I meet a squirrel! She is so beautiful and funny that I can?t hold my smile and always say ?Hello!? to her:-)

Now, at the beginning of autumn my favourite season of the year starts! In the evenings I often sit on the porch of the house and have a cup of coffee. Do you like coffee?

Have a wonderful day! And Great Luck to you, dear ______!

Bye-bye,

Daria.

Has anyone gotten email from this girl too? Daria S #4252


That's gotta be the funniest letter I have read so far [:p]

Siberian

Kevin
01-11-2007, 10:29 AM
siberianhusky

I just posted a minute ago that I have the same problem with the website right now.

what is funny with the letter?

howard darby
01-11-2007, 10:29 AM
HEY SIBERIAN,
I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE LADY I HAVE BEEN WRITING TO FOR 2 YEARS AND TELLING ME SHE WAS FOR REAL AND WHERE SHE WORKED AND SHE WAS NOT PART OF ANY SCAM SHE LIVES IN POLTAVA, I ANSWERED THE LETTER AND SENT IT AND THE SITE WENT DOWN FOR MAINTAINENCE TRY AGAIN LATER, SO HERE WE GO AGAIN

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 10:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

The UAladys site is down but do not know why as I was in the middle of copying my emails from the ladies. This is what it comes up with when I go to the page...

Err: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (113)")]
err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

Any one have this problem?

Siberian


This is the message now. !
""We are sorry but the server is closed for maintainance.""
What a load of rubbish. ! They have only just put it up. !


<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 10:39 AM
quote:
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Originally posted by chasm01

siberian

Do these letters look familiar to you???????

Hello my dear___________



Thank you so much for your wonderful letters.



I missed you so much within the several days while the Agency was closed. As I understood, the Agency had some technical troubles and now it even has some other name. You imagine, I came up to the Agency and the office was closed and I can?t catch them on the phone. And I can?t express my gladness when they called me in the morning today and told that everything is all right and I can come to the office to get your letter.



You know, within these days I worried so much, I was frightened with a thought that I can loose you. We correspond via the Agency and we have no other way of communication, but they told me to day not to worry, everything will be all right, they just had some temporary problems.



Missing you..



Lenochka


Letter2


have not much time today as I have come to the Agency during my lunch break. But I want you to get my letter as soon as possible.



How are you doing, my dear? How is your mood? I hope your mood is still a holiday one!



Concerning myself, for some reasons I think that the holidays were such a long time ago? I celebrated New Year at home with my parents. My brother and his girlfriend came to visit us and we had a family celebration and met the New Year. By the way, so you know that according to the Chinese calendar this is a year of Fire Pig and it is very favorable in all senses, so I wish all your dreams and beginnings come true and everything you?ve decided may happen too!



Concerning Christmas, I have also spent that holiday in a family circle. Right on Christmas it was the official acquaintance of my brother girlfriend?s parents and the parents of mine. They invited our family to their place for Christmas and we celebrated together.

I have to go to work now.

Sending you my kiss.
Lena

Well Elena seems to be quite a busy girl by all accounts and it does make you think that the she receives a commission for each letter she replies to.

I am going to Kharkov at the end of February and Elena G is on my list of girls to meet. I will be able to give you more info when I return

Chasm01



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That is seriously f****d up!!!!!! Both letters are word for word the same. You would think that they would take out or add on to letters instead of just cut n paste. Everyone who communicated with her most likely have the same emails throughout their correspondence with her. I will stick it out until these motherf*****s get reamed by all of us.


Siberian

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 10:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

The UAladys site is down but do not know why as I was in the middle of copying my emails from the ladies. This is what it comes up with when I go to the page...

Err: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (113)")]
err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

Any one have this problem?

Siberian


This is the message now. !
""We are sorry but the server is closed for maintainance.""
What a load of rubbish. ! They have only just put it up. !


<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


That is such BS!!!! There is no way a new site would need to have maintainance already. They are getting scared and will eventually close that site also so I will definitely hold onto my email credits.

Such BS......

Siberian

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 10:57 AM
I have an idea. Would be interested in the views of you guys. ?
We need to hit UALadys. Not just grumble on here, but hit them.
We have 50 members here since day.1.when SMOJE started this. Probably he and a few of the others who are no longer posting comments have gone away but there might be about 40 of us left. ?
Those 40, plus anybody else who joins or who can be recuited need to write to UALadys. A long email to the 'service' section from all 40/50 of us. I have drafted an email and will post it here after getting your opinions.
It seems like the legal action contemplated by 'nomorescam' will either take a long time, or might not get off the ground ? My own legal mission will also take time, so I think we need to hit them in the meantime before they get settled into a system again. ?
Its a real scorcher of an email about this site, and Goggle, and AULadys.NET and the legal action, plus adding their site to 'all' the antiscam sites on the internet. Plus you guys might have some ideas on things to add to it. All this action will be carried out 'unless' they release the surnames of the girls (who we choose) and give us the email address's of those chosen girls.I know their site restricts the size of an email to Support/Service, but we could split it up into two parts. Even more annoying for them then. Await your ideas and thoughts.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 10:59 AM
NOMORESCAM. I did not receive any email because the email system is not working on here. Can you please resend it to: scaminfo@eircom.net
Thanks.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 11:09 AM
Dublin I am willing to send an email you provide me everyday to their support center, even if I have to split it up or not. It will not stop me from sending a letter to them on an everyday basis to keep the charge in them and show them that not everyone is willing to bow down to their tactics and scams. Let me know how it goes with the letter and send it to me then I will start.

Siberian

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 11:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Dublin I am willing to send an email you provide me everyday to their support center, even if I have to split it up or not. It will not stop me from sending a letter to them on an everyday basis to keep the charge in them and show them that not everyone is willing to bow down to their tactics and scams. Let me know how it goes with the letter and send it to me then I will start.

Siberian

OK. Thats great. Thanks. A good idea to send it every day.
:D We will wait for responses from others. I have put your name on the list.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 11:14 AM
This is what I have found under ualadys.com

Domain Name: ualadys.com

Status: ok

Registrar: THE NAME IT CORPORATION DBA NAMESERVICES.NET
Whois Server: whois.aitdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.aitdomains.com

Expiration Date: 2007-09-27
Creation Date: 2006-09-27
Last Update Date: 2007-01-07

Name Servers:
ns04.mccolo.com
ns05.mccolo.com





Extended Information - :
IP Address: 208.72.171.100
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) PHP/4.4.4 mod_ssl/2.8.28 OpenSSL/0.9.7l
Alexa Trend/Rank: 1 Month: 1,163,647 3 Month: 2,397,644
Page Views per Visit: 1 Month: 5.0 3 Month: 5.0
Cache Date: 2007-01-11 05:14:22 MST
Compare Archived Data: 2007-01-08
Available Domains:
RegulaALadys.com
RegulaALadys.net
UAKyl.com
UAKyl.net
UAClinton.net
KylALadys.com
KylALadys.net
UAWomans.com







The Data in THE NAMEIT CORPORATION WHOIS database is provided by
THE NAMEIT CORPORATION for information purposes, and to assist persons
in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record.
THE NAMEIT CORPORATION does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a
WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only for lawful purposes
and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable,
or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising
or solicitations via e-mail (spam); or (2) enable high volume, automated,
electronic processes that apply to THE NAMEIT
CORPORATION (or its systems).

THE NAMEIT CORPORATION reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.

Domain Name: ualadys.com
Registrar: THE NAME IT CORPORATION DBA NAMESERVICES.NET


Registrant Contact

Name: Brian Gleason
Address: Barrack Road
35
Belize City, BZ no code
BZ
Email Address:
Phone Number: (+10)123-4567890


Administrative Contact

Name: Brian Gleason
Address: Barrack Road
35
Belize City, BZ no code
BZ
Email Address:
Phone Number: (+10)123-4567890


Technical Contact

Name: Brian Gleason
Address: Barrack Road
35
Belize City, BZ no code
BZ
Email Address:
Phone Number: (+10)123-4567890


Record Created on........ 2006-09-27 08:21:16.000
Record last updated on... 2007-01-07 11:45:19.000
Expire on................ 2007-09-27 08:21:01.000

Domain servers in listed order:

ns04.mccolo.com
ns05.mccolo.com


Check out the phone number this guy lists here.....

Siberian

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 11:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Dublin I am willing to send an email you provide me everyday to their support center, even if I have to split it up or not. It will not stop me from sending a letter to them on an everyday basis to keep the charge in them and show them that not everyone is willing to bow down to their tactics and scams. Let me know how it goes with the letter and send it to me then I will start.

Siberian

OK. Thats great. Thanks. A good idea to send it every day.
:D We will wait for responses from others. I have put your name on the list.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


Sounds good, keep in touch.

Siberian

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 11:23 AM
I do believe this guy is the one controlling the site......He has ualadys.com and ualadys.info. I could not check ualadys.org but will try later. We already know who has ualadys.net - hehehehehe


Domain Name: ualadys.info

Status: TRANSFER PROHIBITED

Registrar: The Name IT Corporation dba NameServices.net (R182-LRMS)

Expiration Date: 2008-01-09 14:26:58
Creation Date: 2007-01-09 14:26:58

Name Servers:
ns04.mccolo.com
ns05.mccolo.com



Extended Information - :
Cache Date: 2007-01-11 05:43:27 MST
Compare Archived Data: 2007-01-09
Available Domains:
LauraALadys.com
LauraALadys.net
LauraUALadys.com
LauraUALadys.net
UALaura.com
UALaura.net
UAWomans.com
UAWomans.net




Registrant Contact Information:
Name: Brian . Gleason
Organization: IISPP Incorporated
Address 1: Barrack Road
Address 2: 35
City: Belize City
State: BZ
Zip: no code
Country: BZ
Phone: +1.101234567890
Email:

Administrative Contact Information:
Name: Brian . Gleason
Organization: IISPP Incorporated
Address 1: Barrack Road
Address 2: 35
City: Belize City
State: BZ
Zip: no code
Country: BZ
Phone: +1.101234567890
Email:

Technical Contact Information:
Name: Brian . Gleason
Organization: IISPP Incorporated
Address 1: Barrack Road
Address 2: 35
City: Belize City
State: BZ
Zip: no code
Country: BZ
Phone: +1.101234567890
Email:

Billing Contact Information:
Name: Brian . Gleason
Organization: IISPP Incorporated
Address 1: Barrack Road
Address 2: 35
City: Belize City
State: BZ
Zip: no code
Country: BZ
Phone: +1.101234567890
Email:

Something smells fishy

Siberian

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 11:46 AM
Billing Contact Information:
Name: Brian . Gleason
Organization: IISPP Incorporated
Address 1: Barrack Road
Address 2: 35
City: Belize City
State: BZ
Zip: no code
Country: BZ
Phone: +1.101234567890
Email:

Something smells fishy

Siberian
[/quote]

Smells fishy. ? IT STINKS. ! 01234567890 for a phone number. ? HAHA. A real shyster. !

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 11:54 AM
quote:I have an idea. Would be interested in the views of you guys. ?
We need to hit UALadys. Not just grumble on here, but hit them.
We have 50 members here since day.1.when SMOJE started this. Probably he and a few of the others who are no longer posting comments have gone away but there might be about 40 of us left. ?
Those 40, plus anybody else who joins or who can be recuited need to write to UALadys. A long email to the 'service' section from all 40/50 of us. I have drafted an email and will post it here after getting your opinions.
It seems like the legal action contemplated by 'nomorescam' will either take a long time, or might not get off the ground ? My own legal mission will also take time, so I think we need to hit them in the meantime before they get settled into a system again. ?
Its a real scorcher of an email about this site, and Goggle, and AULadys.NET and the legal action, plus adding their site to 'all' the antiscam sites on the internet. Plus you guys might have some ideas on things to add to it. All this action will be carried out 'unless' they release the surnames of the girls (who we choose) and give us the email address's of those chosen girls.I know their site restricts the size of an email to Support/Service, but we could split it up into two parts. Even more annoying for them then. Await your ideas and thoughts.

Dublin like the idea. Can you send it on to me, would like to see if we can come up with anything to add.

Sent you the info on the other agency.

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 12:14 PM
Hey dublin

what agencies would you recommend? ever since this whole scamming ordeal came out I would still like to find a site that is not shysting everyone. Can you give me some names of legit sites or you think are legit, thanks.

I don't think I could go by the so called jimslists.com as it seems a little fishy there as well.

Siberian

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 12:33 PM
Well hell the site came back up so they didn't decide to go crawl into a hole, damn!!!


Siberian

SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY!!!

howard darby
01-11-2007, 12:35 PM
siberian,
i got the exact same letter fro lena before christmas, yesterday before the ua site went down i wrote her a nasty letter and asked her about all the guys she's writing to but have not nor do i expect to hear from her

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Guys

Some more info regarding the site being down.
The error message on the UALADYS.COM page is

Err: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (111)")]
err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

I looked this up on a sever error page forum. The guys on there help people trying set up there own server.
This is what I found. Very interesting. Look at the letter within the text!

I was sorting my junk mail (as only people on safe list get in I have to manually look through some) when I saw this. As my default background is a light grey the white text stood out immediately (presumably to be hidden, though it didn't make sense anyway).
e-mail
&lt;htm&gt;&lt;body&gt;Hello!

&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;5. You may not reverse engineer, de-compile, or disassemble the&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;documentation, and/or other materials provided by the Group, as they&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
i live in a small city and i do not meet very many people. i am a student and
study very hard. maybe we can find a good life teogether? do you remember me??&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://myowndate.org/yana_k/"&gt;My page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;THE , EVEN IF THE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
xxoo Yana

&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;where you obtained it within 30 days from purchase.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;

It?s a generic email. I have received this from a lady on ualadys myself and a have a copy of it. It also came from a site called myowndate.org which is in the text. And a lady called Yana, K.
Its looking good:D

More from the quotes in the forum.

Going to the site gets me:
SQL error: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (60)")] err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

It gives me someone's photo album.

Looks like it was once a dating agency website?

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 01:21 PM
Dublin like the idea. Can you send it on to me, would like to see if we can come up with anything to add.

Sent you the info on the other agency.
[/quote]
Thanks for the email.
I am amazed. '?????? ! I know them very well, and in fact they are on one of my 'recommended' lists. !
I knew about the TV broadcast last year, and saw pictures of it, and it was all meant to show how legitimate they are. ! Now we find they are connected with C.C. !
It just goes to show that absolutely nobody can be trusted in the bride business any more. !
It has become the biggest scam of all time. !
Incidently I tried to reply to your email but my mail server said your email address was corrupt ??
Thanks again.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 01:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Hey dublin

what agencies would you recommend? ever since this whole scamming ordeal came out I would still like to find a site that is not shysting everyone. Can you give me some names of legit sites or you think are legit, thanks.

I don't think I could go by the so called jimslists.com as it seems a little fishy there as well.

Siberian


Am looking up the sites that I included in my book. Will post the sites here, asap.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 01:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Guys

Some more info regarding the site being down.
The error message on the UALADYS.COM page is

Err: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (111)")]
err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

I looked this up on a sever error page forum. The guys on there help people trying set up there own server.
This is what I found. Very interesting. Look at the letter within the text!

I was sorting my junk mail (as only people on safe list get in I have to manually look through some) when I saw this. As my default background is a light grey the white text stood out immediately (presumably to be hidden, though it didn't make sense anyway).
e-mail
&lt;htm&gt;&lt;body&gt;Hello!

&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;5. You may not reverse engineer, de-compile, or disassemble the&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;documentation, and/or other materials provided by the Group, as they&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
i live in a small city and i do not meet very many people. i am a student and
study very hard. maybe we can find a good life teogether? do you remember me??&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://myowndate.org/yana_k/"&gt;My page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;THE , EVEN IF THE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
xxoo Yana

&lt;font color="#FCFFFC"&gt;where you obtained it within 30 days from purchase.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;

It?s a generic email. I have received this from a lady on ualadys myself and a have a copy of it. It also came from a site called myowndate.org which is in the text. And a lady called Yana, K.
Its looking good:D

More from the quotes in the forum.

Going to the site gets me:
SQL error: Error DB: [(2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'db-priv' (60)")] err: i am trap now! (vph.crash_err set 1) or somebody want trap do= trap

It gives me someone's photo album.

Looks like it was once a dating agency website?


hmmm. you have lost me completely.. :D Maybe I am getting too old. ? :( Can you explain it in Queens English please. ? :D
Or anybody else's English as long as it is not UALadys English. ![}:)]

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 01:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Hey dublin

what agencies would you recommend? ever since this whole scamming ordeal came out I would still like to find a site that is not shysting everyone. Can you give me some names of legit sites or you think are legit, thanks.

I don't think I could go by the so called jimslists.com as it seems a little fishy there as well.

Siberian

Hi.
I have looked up my book but as this site will not allow the posting of URL's to other sites I will have to send it to any members by email. The book is actually on the internet for purchase but I will send this chapter to anyone who would like it as we are here to help each other. ! Hopefully this site will repair their email system soonest. ? In the meantime contact me at: russianbridehelp@iol.ie

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-11-2007, 02:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Hey dublin

what agencies would you recommend? ever since this whole scamming ordeal came out I would still like to find a site that is not shysting everyone. Can you give me some names of legit sites or you think are legit, thanks.

I don't think I could go by the so called jimslists.com as it seems a little fishy there as well.

Siberian

Hi.
I have looked up my book but as this site will not allow the posting of URL's to other sites I will have to send it to any members by email. The book is actually on the internet for purchase but I will send this chapter to anyone who would like it as we are here to help each other. ! Hopefully this site will repair their email system soonest. ? In the meantime contact me at: russianbridehelp@iol.ie

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>



Just sent you an email about the list you have so I hope it reaches you. Hope they can fix this site soon to make it easier to email everyone.

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone!!!

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 02:21 PM
Dublin

I will email you from another address were you can get me.

ualadys back online

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 02:38 PM
quote:hmmm. you have lost me completely.. Maybe I am getting too old. ? Can you explain it in Queens English please. ?
Or anybody else's English as long as it is not UALadys English. !

Ok I will have a go in the queens English:D

The server error which was on the ualadys page while it was down can be found within spam emails.

I looked into server error messages and found someone who had received a spam email with that error message attached to it.
The spam email was actually a letter written by a lady from a dating agency called myowndate.org.
The letter was as follows

I live in a small city and I do not meet very many people. I am a student and
study very hard. maybe we can find a good life teogether? do you remember me??

xxoo Yana K

I received a letter from a lady with ualadys which was exactly the same.

With that error message on the ualadys webpage it shows they must somehow link to spam emails.

myowndate.org no longer exists so maybe they are now know as ualadys.com

Hope that makes more sense than my last post.

Mountain Man
01-11-2007, 02:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

I think we should start a new Topic, where UALadys leads on from CC, to show that UALadys is now the new topic. ? This would also show up on Google etc, and therefore be seen by others. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


Mt.Man

Mountain Man
01-11-2007, 02:52 PM
Hello Everyone, This may or may not be the way to reply to this general topic of CC aka UALADYS, but if I have broken with protocol please excuse me. I have just read pages 1 & 2 of this topic and then by some reason skipped forward from October 2006 to here. There was a person "conlaw815" who is in the same age bracket and physical condition as myself. The point is that I have a friend who just married his girl friend of 20 years and had a baby who is now 2 years old. The girl was 2 years younger that this man's oldest daughter. So being together with a much younger woman does happen. I am in a similar situation with a lady on CC now UALADYS. I have been making "Good Ole Boy Deals" all of my life. Over 98% and beared fruit. Only 2 have absolutely bombed. It would appear that with UALADYS this is a similar kind of thing, based totally on faith and trust. What is my plan? I am going to call their bluff, I am in the process of learning the Ukrainian Language to the point of being able to operate in their society at some basic level. I am going to go to Lutsk, and try to meet with this lady and just play it by ear from there. The way I look at this is, I know what is to be found in this country for my age group. I have absolutely nothing to loose by going to Ukraine to discover whether this is a total scam or not. This may sound like a "Babe in the woods" outlook, but if I am right it would be like winning the lottery and knowing what to do next. If anyone would have any thoughts on this please reply.
Mt. Man.

quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

I think we should start a new Topic, where UALadys leads on from CC, to show that UALadys is now the new topic. ? This would also show up on Google etc, and therefore be seen by others. ?

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


Mt.Man

snakehandler
01-11-2007, 03:13 PM
Thanks a lot Snake,

What hotels do you reccommend? So you stayed in the center? Did you call the agency up and ask for the address or did you just go down there? What did they make you sign? I think as an american I have to fill out all this bull**** paperwork because our current government is ignorant and does not follow the constitution. I have heard stories, that Buenos Aires girls see a foreigner, an american or european guy, and make him spend all his money on them. I am not talking about AGENCY GIRLS, I am talking about the girls down there in general. One guy I read about, he was german, at the end of his trip there he had no money and was debating in his head if his Buenos Aires Girlfriend was worth it although she was very beautiful. As far as the agency, I AM POSITIVE THERE ARE SOME GOLD DIGGERS THERE! The girl that you met there, you corresponded with her through email? Did she get your email and was it her who wrote you back? I think alot of the girls there expect a foreigner to wine them and dine the crap out of them.


they gave me the address as i payed the fifty dollars.
i stayed in a cheap hotel in San Telmo, an old italian neighbourhood with lots of old restaurants and stuff.
I signed nothing and the girls over there are very nice if they are not from any agency. in fact it is a very modern city in some respects. With twelve million inhabitants. As a european it is easy for me to stay and travel around without signing anything.
How much money you spend depends on yourself but all in all Argentina is really cheap.

snakehandler
01-11-2007, 03:16 PM
And yeah the girl i corressponded with was full of crap.

imported_uljoh
01-11-2007, 03:38 PM
Great guys
Now ualadys.com is down.

But "Confidential Connections" is back telling:

Attention
We are sorry but the server is closed for maintainance.
Please try again later.

Thank you. [8D]

uljoh

Prometheus
01-11-2007, 03:38 PM
ualadys.com is down again... let's hope it stays that way.

Jim, Lyudmila S #4001 is available at http://prometheus.myphotoalbum.com

I'm still trying to ascertain if this "private photo shoot" was sold to more than one unsuspecting dupe. Please post if you paid for these photos, or if they photos were given to you with representations that they were made for you.

Like to hear from "Jeff" also who was writing Lyudmila. She sent me one of your letters.

There was an old Cheech and Chong comedy bit back in the 70's that went something like, "Does it smell like dogchit?" "Yeah man, it smell like dogchit." "Does it taste like dogchit?"

Friends, if it looks like dogchit, smells like dogchit, and tastes like dogchit, guess what? IT IS DOGCHIT.

"Glad we didn't step in it..."

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 03:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by nomorescam


quote:hmmm. you have lost me completely.. Maybe I am getting too old. ? Can you explain it in Queens English please. ?
Or anybody else's English as long as it is not UALadys English. !

Ok I will have a go in the queens English:D

The server error which was on the ualadys page while it was down can be found within spam emails.

I looked into server error messages and found someone who had received a spam email with that error message attached to it.
The spam email was actually a letter written by a lady from a dating agency called myowndate.org.
The letter was as follows

I live in a small city and I do not meet very many people. I am a student and
study very hard. maybe we can find a good life teogether? do you remember me??

xxoo Yana K

I received a letter from a lady with ualadys which was exactly the same.

With that error message on the ualadys webpage it shows they must somehow link to spam emails.

myowndate.org no longer exists so maybe they are now know as ualadys.com

Hope that makes more sense than my last post.

Oh yes they sure do link with spam sites. If you look at my page: confidentialconnections.NET you will see a list of the spam details and how they linked up with sites directly connected to CC.
So, I presume that the change of name makes no difference to their spam. They will keep spamming, but it will now lead to UAL instead of CC. Anyway, you were very clever to find that the way you did and investigate it. UAL has no chance against us. ![8D]

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 04:01 PM
Dublin

Did you get my email? I sent it from another address.

I tried to look at your page but it is asking me for a username and password.

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 04:08 PM
If anyone has ten grand, and wants to use it to find a bride, then I know a site that guarantee the perfect match. So unless your absolutely incompatible you will end up with a wife. ! Sounds expensive maybe. ? Not really, when you think about it. A real woman, a complete match and your absolute 'ideal' will eventually cost you that much after everything is totalled up, but this way you do not get any headaches, or busted emotions, or maybe's, etc, and its all done privately, discreatly, and you get to be treated like a king. !
Everything is done from the inital selection, right through to Visa's until your on the plane home, with your bride. !
If anyone wants to look at the site send me an email.
I thought that maybe there is someone who just might be interested. ? Incidently, its a suit and tie kind of business. :D All you Jeans guys can forget it. :)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 04:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Dublin

Did you get my email? I sent it from another address.

I tried to look at your page but it is asking me for a username and password.

****. !! Thats ridulous. ! Sorry. I will have a look at it.
Got your email ok. Will reply asap.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

nomorescam
01-11-2007, 04:16 PM
No problem thanks

ualadys is back up again

Mountain Man
01-11-2007, 04:25 PM
Hello Jim,
Unfortunately for me the drift I am getting from your post is that all of the time I have spent writing to this lady on CC now ualadys was BS. Is is an across the board sumation? Are you saying that all of the ladys are not what they seem? While I am not questioning your post, I am asking for clarification. I am trying to do this with the utmost respect and friendship.

MT. Man

quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HIYA Everyone!

Thanks Dublin Devil for starting this new site. Hopefully it will do some good and stop someone from getting scammed!

It appears to me that a lot of guys on this site are still living on their dream and still have doubt about CC or UA or what ever the flavor of the day is for these scam artists.

I just spent an hour reading all the posts that showed up while I was out of the USA. Yes, I went on vacation...to Cozumel...very nice and I certainly was not getting scammed there!

I know many people feel hurt and probably kind of foolish for wasting your time and money. I see that many do not want to expose the woman you are writing too. It is like you are still trying to protect her and still hoping that she is "real." I am sure she is, but not like what you think she is.

I was communicating with a girl that I met through a regular...cost free...website. This woman is from Muldova..next to the Ukraine. She writes me all the time, but they are short and to the point letters with fairly good english. I asked her for her mailing address and she gladly sent it along with her cell phone number. She also uses Yahoo and I see her on yahoo through her webcam. Why am I telling you this? I am telling you this because just about every woman below the mid-30's knows some English. I have been to Bulgaria, Romania and Russia and they all knew enough English to communicate. They learn it in school. It may be a little rough, but it is known.

We are all here to help each other out and the only way you can do that is to post who you were talking with and some of their letters. I have seen the squirrel story, the fishing story and the lady asking for coins story. I have also had stories about a hurrendous bus ride and many, many more.

If anyone wants pictures of the Elena G vacation, the Daria P beach trip, the Elena R I made these for you, the Alyonka you are my future....feel free to email me and I will send them to you. I do not remember who had the pictures of Miss 4001, but I would like to see those.

The bottom line is that these women do exist, they just do not exist in the way that they have made you feel. Go to the Ukraine during the summer...and go to the beach...there you will find plenty of women that you can enjoy and maybe find the right one.

Jim


Mt.Man

Amerikanski
01-11-2007, 04:54 PM
Gentlemen,

I have been reading this forum for the past fews days and wished to comment. I am in my 40's and married to a beautiful Russian woman in her 20's.

CC and UALADYS are part of the same Russian dating scam that has been going on since the Internet opened up borders. One of the first Russian "women" to contact me in the 1990's was a scam artist out of Chelyabinsk using that names Alfia Magdeeva, Marina Chumachenko, Vasilisa Schelkonogova, Anna Lazareva, Anna Porfireva, and others. I saw a story on line that the group behind that operation were arrested last year and had duped 1,500 men out of more than $1.5 Million dollars. That's $1,000 per victim on average.

My wife used to work for a dating agency in Riga as a translator. She said that the women look at the American men typically as pathetic and unsuitable for marriage, but the agencies pay them to go to dates and socials from the fees. Her employer charged for translation services as well, and she said it was just a cash making operation every step of the way.

So how did I meet my wife? In the Yahoo personals. We took our time getting to know each other, she came over for a visit on a tourist visa, and we've been together ever since. I knew her name, her address, and her phone number from the first few days of correspondence. We'd speak in broken Russian and English and send long emails.

Most educated Russian women do speak some English. Conditions in the FSU (former Soviet Union) are not as bad as most people describe. Wages are lower, but so is the cost of living.

I have a friend pushing 60 who is married to a beautiful women in her early 30's from Cheylabinsk. Another friend married a lovely woman from St. Petersburg young enough to be his daughter. These success stories do happen, but not through agencies. They are through word of mouth, introductions, and personal ads not run by an agency charging for correspondence or contact info.

While I'm on the subject. Russian women are not what the agencies tell you they are. They are highly opinionated, have an iron will, and will beat you into submission over time. Do not go into this thinking you are buying a nice little lap dog. That lap dog has teeth and will bite your ass the first time you get out of line. My wife is the only person I have never won an argument with... but hope springs eternal.

Learn something about the culture, arts, history, and language of the Russian people. I converted to Orthodoxy, and it changed my life in a lot of positive ways. It also expanded my circle of Slavic friends. I was recently "knighted" by member of the Montenegro nobility.

I wish you good luck in pursuing your dreams. Just don't let your little head do the thinking for the big one. There are simple ways to find foreign wife. Get off the computer, do you homework, and then go there for a visit. You'll be glad you did. I am.

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 04:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Dublin

Did you get my email? I sent it from another address.

I tried to look at your page but it is asking me for a username and password.


Have managed to unlock it. !! The silly 'B*****' !!

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-11-2007, 10:22 PM
Just checked the 'stats' for CC.NET.
Make interesting reading. 2.500 hits this month so far. Almost 1,000 in December. ! Only just been set up, and no advertising at all, except here and CC of course. ! :D
No doubt in my mind CC were paying visits. I also noted that the 'search phrase' used was often CC.com so no doubt some ended up on my site instead of CC. ! See if we can get some success with UAL.NET now. ! :D

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

siberianhusky
01-12-2007, 12:17 AM
Thanks dublin for the two emails you sent me, much appreciated. As for the letter itself is very well done, were you going to put who it is from or are we just using our own names for this part? I did not know if you wanted to name a group of us together or not. Maybe we can decide sometime if that is the best course to take.

Siberian

Shackles Are Undone!!!

newduke
01-12-2007, 02:08 AM
Hi Prometheus (and others),

Well, like I said in an earlier post, I had a good 17 month email relationship with Lyuda (Lyudmila) 4001 for 17-18 months. I have never received the photos of her that you posted on photoalbum.com. So far, we know that Jeff, Jim, you, and I have been in correspondance with someone or some persons going by her name.

So, is there anyone else out there who has corresponded with this woman, No. 4001????


She was in the CC top 100 for a long time, so probably she is paid to write letters for a living without any honest intentions...or, she and her ghost writer might be working together: it could be that 4001 is the paid model and a ghost writer is the professional letter writer pretending to be her. I guess it doesn't really matter how they do it. They are pretty good:

I had lots of "conversations" with someone (who unfortunately now knows me too well) contained in over 400 emails, and during all that time I only noted 3 or 4 possible red flags!! And when I questioned her she seemed to have a "reasonable" explanation each time.

After 4 months of almost daily emails, now suddenly she is sick and I have not heard from her for 6 days (including the shut down period). Strange huh?


Anyhow, I am dumb but not stupid (I think!). An expensive lesson for me. It's too bad the agency gals think American men are all "losers". I like the advice from the poster above. I think I will work to find a gal independently from any Agency.

I am still planning on going to Ukraine in March originally to meet 4001 and? but now to hang out, be a tourist, whatever. If anyone has some other tips, ideas, or suggestions on where to go to meet a few REAL gals, places to see, or whatever, I am all ears. I would especially like a reference for an independent tour guide/interpreter...I have heard Pavel in Kiev is highly recommended by some.

Right now, I am thinking of going to Nikolaev, so I need to book an apartment ASAP. Anyone have suggestions for a company than rents manages apartments there? Or, in another city they highly recommend?

Anyhow, I wish you guys the best in exposing CC/UALadys.

hairbag30
01-12-2007, 04:15 AM
I am new to this site and think the e-mail-a day program is a great idea! I found this site Monday the 8th and have been reading both postings, all 11 pages on the CC forum and was happy to see this new forum up.
I have been a member of CC since last May when a woman on another site told me she lost her friend who translates and would communicate with me on CC.( Sound familiar?!!) Going against my better judgement and ignoring this ?red flag?,[B)] I joined and have been writing to her and another woman! I see how highly the Simferopol office was regarded I decided to send her a copy of the first letter she wrote to me and was quite surprised when she replied that it was not her letter!:( The two woman I am writing to seem real but thank God I always have those nagging thoughts of common sense to keep me in reality!
I am no complete dummy and always try to keep the ?little head?[}:)] from doing all the thinking but some of these letters are just to obvious! It is a shame that I did not keep Miss ?4001" [:o)]or Galina S of Kherson (2683)[:o)] or Olya G of Zhitomir (4288)[:o)] who keeps writing even after I said I was not interested and who has written me again and sent me 7 new pictures to go with the 28 she sent 2 months ago, 2 months after I said I was not interested!
I would love to know if anyone else has been corresponding with the following 3:
Julia K. 1275 (Kharkov)
Anna T. 7586 (Simferopol)
Dasha N. 2566 (Kherson)
Yuliya B. 7074 (Zaphorozhye)
I have gotten a slew of others from the ?Big 4" but never opened them and deleted them! If I knew then what I know now I would have saved everyone!!!
I have been to the Ukraine 3 times and had a blast everywhere I went. If you like to ski, the Carpathian Mountains are quite nice. I found Odessa very interesting, Nikolaev was nice but be careful, major drug trafficking and use. It looked like that city was the entry point for all of the Ukraine!! Kherson was nice but the women are getting like the women in Lugansk, bride scams as a cottage industry, but if you go in with your eyes wide open, use some common sense, you will have a good time!;)
Thanks for the eye opening forum! Will be tuned in at least once a day! On to do some research and maybe try the Yahoo personals!
Let me know what I can do to be one big pain in the ass to ualadys.com!:D
Hairbag

Jackspades
01-12-2007, 09:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by snakehandler

And yeah the girl i corressponded with was full of crap.


Snake, what do you mean the girl was full of crap? More detail. I tried calling out several of the girls I talk to, and ONE GOT REALLY PISSED OFF WITH ME. The other blamed the translator for ****ing up her letter. One girl, has not even responded to me, after I called her out. How long did you you correspond with that one girl from the agency? She just wanted to use you for money right to spend alot of money on her right?

Thanks for the hotel advice, I know another european guy who did the exact same thing, stayed in a cheap hotel in that district.

Somebody suggested to me that UAladys and ARLAdys are an escort service. Comments anyone? Confirming or denying this?

nomorescam
01-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Good news.

I have been sending and receiving letters with Nadezhda N. #3867
Yesterday someone posted a letter received from Nadezhda and guess what? It?s a match word for word with one I received from her on the same day and only ten minutes apart. It?s not just great that she done this but great she done this to me because it?s making my legal case stronger.
If anyone else has been speaking with this lady I would like to hear from you.
I am now going to send her a reply and see what response I get. Let the games begin.

Prometheus
01-12-2007, 01:54 PM
Newduke,

Good luck with the mythical Ms. 4001. I wish you great luck and success. If "she" proves real and you two hit it off, be sure to roll her over and stick it in the wrong hole for me. I feel like CC has already stretched my ass, so you hopefully you can return the favor! I had about 400 emails with her also. I'm sure if we did a print out, they'd be word for word identical in many instances.

Prometheus

26 Oct 2006

You know, I had a very interesting day yesterday. It was a day of meetings. I met almost all my friends I have not seen for ages. You cannot imagine how I was glad to see all of them! It was such a happy coincidence! I knew a lot about them, about their life! Some news was not very happy. I knew that one of our teachers at school had died. Another friend, who works in Germany and some days ago came here, is going to come back. I met her in the store. She chose there gifts for her friends in Germany. They asked her to bring them some CDs with Ukrainian music. So, today I am going to visit her at her farewell party. Well, actually, I had in general only happy news. One of my friends, who were looking for her love for a very long time got married. And I am really happy for her, she is a really wonderful person. It is pity that I didn?t manage to be at her wedding. She just lived in other city and we didn?t see each other for a long time.

25 Oct 2006

So, what are your plans for the evening? Well, I am going to my work again today. But in the evening I am planning to go to the theatre - they say there will be a nice performance there. I wish I could do this with you. But I will go with my co-worker - she has been trying to drag me off somewhere for a long time. ;)

Do you have such friends who want you to get married so much that try to introduce you to different ladies who would be ready to date with you? You know, I often run into my relatives, friends who always want me to get acquainted with one of their single friends. To tell you the truth, I got tired of that. I met those men but I don?t' see any salt in them. I just make sure again and again that I can build no relations with our men.

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 02:41 PM
Hairbag and Gman. Please look at page.11. of the old forum. I sent you both a posting.
If you reply please post it on this new page.. Thanks.

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

Prometheus
01-12-2007, 05:00 PM
While we are on the subject,

There is another CC gal, Angelina S. #7625, who wrote me repeatedly, sent me unsolicited photos, and just generally acted in an unbelievable way (red flag one) last year. She is in the Simferopol branch (red flag two), and her age has changed several times on the website. She current reported to be 27, but she was much younger (18 or 19) last year when I first heard from her (three strikes, you're out).

Anyone had a similar experience?

dadepfan
01-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Actually, they are under new ownership as well - did all of you get the letter announcint that?

Dave


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

I have a T1 connection and it takes about 12 to 15 seconds to come up. So it could be a long wait depending on your connection speed. There's really not much to see since all the graphics are disabled by primary site being down.

We were discussing bad busienss practices, like taking the site down without warning customers, choosing a web name that is confusingly similar to a competitors (ualadys.com vs. ualady.com). Add sheer stupidity...

For example, the letter someone posted by a translator that "I came to get your letter, but the agency's doors were locked and the lights off..." Since when does someone lock the doors and turn off the lights because the server is being transferred??? Sheesh.


So true. ! If your changing hosting companies you don't need to shut down the office. ! Even more reason to keep it open. ! We have not heard the last of CC and the changes yet. There will be masses more revalations as the days/weeks go bye. !

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


David A Desautel

dadepfan
01-12-2007, 07:44 PM
Dublin

How much do the women pay?

Dave


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

If anyone has ten grand, and wants to use it to find a bride, then I know a site that guarantee the perfect match. So unless your absolutely incompatible you will end up with a wife. ! Sounds expensive maybe. ? Not really, when you think about it. A real woman, a complete match and your absolute 'ideal' will eventually cost you that much after everything is totalled up, but this way you do not get any headaches, or busted emotions, or maybe's, etc, and its all done privately, discreatly, and you get to be treated like a king. !
Everything is done from the inital selection, right through to Visa's until your on the plane home, with your bride. !
If anyone wants to look at the site send me an email.
I thought that maybe there is someone who just might be interested. ? Incidently, its a suit and tie kind of business. :D All you Jeans guys can forget it. :)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


David A Desautel

dadepfan
01-12-2007, 07:49 PM
Hi All

Have we considered that an identical letter from the same woman to multiple men may not be as serious a problem (maybe she is just lazy and keeping all her options open) than an identical letter FROM multiple woman (obvious not written by both women, and thus indicatiove of a scam)?

Just a thought

Dave


quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Good news.

I have been sending and receiving letters with Nadezhda N. #3867
Yesterday someone posted a letter received from Nadezhda and guess what? It?s a match word for word with one I received from her on the same day and only ten minutes apart. It?s not just great that she done this but great she done this to me because it?s making my legal case stronger.
If anyone else has been speaking with this lady I would like to hear from you.
I am now going to send her a reply and see what response I get. Let the games begin.


David A Desautel

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 08:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Dublin

How much do the women pay?

Dave



Haha. Goodness knows. ? Something we will never know.:)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 08:34 PM
Actually, I finally got another letter from Valentina, and she asked me for my personal email. She said that she was "allowed" because of her situation - she is in Moscow at work, and has to call the agency at home to have her letters read to her. It will be interestig to see if CC lets it through.

I have not gotton a personal email from her yet though.

Dave
(quote)

Why would she ask 'you' for your email address. ? UAL have your email address so they would give it to her, surely. ? If you get an email from her at your own address I will eat my stinking hat. again. :D
Anyway, UAL would not allow it. I was away in hospital for a month, but they refused the girls my email address. !!

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 08:49 PM
This is the web page after sending the message to UAL.
Quote:
Attention: We issue the answers to your questions only on our website.
We also send a copy of our answer to your email address but we don't give the guarantee that it will reach you.
That's why we strongly recommend to receive an answer to your question on our site.
All you need to do for this is to log in on the site and our system will inform you if the answer to your question is available.

ualadys.com Support team.
Return to my support center
This is your question. Ticket #38748 From: RAY unknown

Hello Sergey. There continues to be a great upset amongst members about your restrictions on providing the ladies contact details. You refuse to even provide them for men in countries where there is no IMBR legislation is completely wrong. Your so called ?protection? of the ladies is also an insult to men as we are not children but very responsible people. You will have undoubtedly seen this site: http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=650&whichpage=1 and this: http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=84 and also: www.confidentialconnections.net You cannot ignore these sites. They are there and they are continuing to grow. A new site: www.ualadys.net is also being developed and will be up and running in the next few days. In addition to all this lawyers are being consulted in the USA and in other countries to take up this matter and sue your organisation for a refund of all monies paid to you for which the members have received nothing. There are also members who are actively engaged in sending all this information and sites to Google and to Yahoo and this information will be prominently displayed on those search engines for every man in the world to see. No further excuses or refusal to answer legitimate questions by your organisation will be accepted by members, and the campaign to expose your fraudulent activities will continue. The only answer for you is to release the contact details of all those ladies requested by members including the provision of the ladies surnames. If this information is released it is possible that members will refrain from suing for a refund of their money, although that is only something that can be decided ?after? release of the ladies information. We would urgently request that these requirements by members be met without further delay so as to avoid any further action by them.
Unquote:

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

snakehandler
01-12-2007, 09:33 PM
To jackspades, I corresponded with this girl for a while and she seemed nice and interested so because i wanted to go there anyway i thought i would give it a try. But in reality she was keen on money and looked a bit like a call girl. So i left it with one dinner. But maybe other girls are different. i can't tell cause i only saw one. And as i said the people at the agency where rather helpfull but maybe that was fake too i dunno. Buenos Aires has twelve million nihabitants and the most beautifull girls in the world so i forgot about that agency very soon.

Karl
01-12-2007, 10:01 PM
Hello
A few remarks.
Bachelorboy101, thank you for your input regarding Daria P. I will take apropriate action[}:)]
Kevin, I got the same letter from 1866 as you.
#1875 is a 100% fake. I told her about my relative who died and she thanked me for my wonderful letter![:o)]
Ralf SSince you have visited several of the offices in Ukraine, could you share with us the street addresses to the offices in Zhitomir and Poltava[?]
Amerikanski You are totally right about the characteristics of russian women. If you argue with them, don't expect to get the last word[}:)]
My ukrainian x-wife visited a small agency in Kharkov by the name of Idi-bridge. It and the girls exists, and you can find them on the net. How legit it is I don't know.
Have fun guys!

imported_admin
01-12-2007, 10:09 PM
It's funny. We at Stop-Scammers.com just have recieved their newsletter (never subscribed) :D
A good idea to start a new site - STOP-DATING-SPAMMERS!!!

Dear admin! Old New Year in Ukraine !!
Have you ever heard about such a holiday?

On the night of the 13th-14th of January we are having a special holiday, which exists only in the countries of the former USSR. It??s Old New Year :)) a funny name??

It??s New Year by the old calendar, which was in use before 1917.

Our people decided that it??s better not to waste another wonderful chance to have a feast and decided to leave this holiday in our lives. It will be another bright day in life of your lady, full of joy and smiles!

All the presents have been shared on the 1st and if you send something to your lovely lady, it will be a wonderful surprise!

If you wish to use this chance on this special holiday, please see our offer here:

---------------------------------------------------------

New management company
First of all we congratulate you with a Happy New Year and a Merry Christmas!

On this wonderful holiday, we are happy to inform you, that as of December 31,2006 Confidential Connections (and all its branches) have passed to a new management company IISPP INC and a new owner, IISPP INC

We have worked hard for 24 hours a day to make all the necessary changes to the sites and all the systems and we are glad to announce to you that the new sites ARE RUNNING ALREADY and you can freely use all our services now! New re-branding name of the site is UAladys.com

We at IISPP INC being a team of professionals, having a great experience, set a mission to raise quality of our customer's service.

We bring our deepest apologies for the temporal break in the former site's operation. Working day and night, our team has transferred all the old owner's databases to our new servers. It will substantively raise the quality and speed of the site!

We guarantee that all payments are restored in the full value that you paid. The whole correspondence, photo and video materials, and also condition of your private accounts on the site are remaining intact and you are able to continue communication with the ladies when you wish!

We have notified all ladies in advance about temporal break of correspondence. Please don't worry, ladies know about the reason of letters delay and are waiting for your return!

We ask you to accept 1 photo and 1 video credit to your profile as a gift from the new management company when you log in.

If you were unable to send a Christmas gift to your lady due to the site not working, you can still send a gift to her.

Below is Christmas specials that will be in effect until this Saturday.

admin, if you have personal propositions, remarks or suggestions regarding making our work better and more qualitative we will accept your opinion with the high attention and respect and will certainly take it into account while planning the new work strategy. You can pass a remark on our site in Support section.

We hope for the successful collaboration with you in the future. We will do everything possible to help you in finding your soul mate.

Sincerely and wish best wishes,


THOMAS MCKEVENY , GENERAL MANAGER IISPP INC
IISPP INC. 153 LAFAYETTE STREET FIFTH FLOOR
NEW YORK CITY, NY 10013
212 614 0100


If you wish to be removed from this mailing, please send an e-mail with your member # and Email address
to stopit@ualadys.com, you will be removed from our mailing list or click here.

siberianhusky
01-12-2007, 10:48 PM
I received a new letter today from the famous Elena G. #1586 so read on. I will remind everyone that I sent this gift out before the whole shutdown of CC and then sent a letter to the support why I have not received my photo of her getting the gift I sent and now I just received this today.

12 January 2007 03:25:47

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

My dear _______!

It`s me Elena.

My dear, I am sorry, that last time I didn't mention your present- wonderful bouqet of white lilies.

To tell the truth, I just don't know what to say?

_______, your attention is so pleasing, I like your care and I do realize that only with thanking you I can't express all gratitude to you.

You know, I don't want to be cunning, but as any girl I am very pleased to get such signs of attention. Thank you very much!

With tendeness..

Lena

Has anyone received anything like this before from any girl your talking to?


Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

siberianhusky
01-12-2007, 10:57 PM
So will you release the girls names, both of them? If not you can email me at lexiematsi@yahoo.com

We need as much as possible to keep a record of everything and it would be great if this info was shared between another person or so, if not I completely understand and take care.

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 11:40 PM
And another thing:

When I began communications with this girl she was not in the top 100…. Well she is now!

But even more disturbing…. There is a girl I met while I was over there; she is ENGAGED TO HER LONG TERM Ukrainian boyfriend! And she is in the TOP 100 too! (I was invited to her wedding!)

I mean what is going on here!

I’m in two mind I want to post the detail. but I also don’t want them to catch on.


Because ever since Dublin bought Ualadys.net they have been buying the rest of the domain names.


They’re watching us!!!
[/quote]
WOW. What a story.. Brilliant. !! IF anyone ever had any doubts about CC legitimacy, now they are assured surely. !
One thing, how do you know they buying up the remaining names. ?
I checked the Whois tonight and saw that most were still available. ?


<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

dublindevil
01-12-2007, 11:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by admin

It's funny. We at Stop-Scammers.com just have recieved their newsletter (never subscribed) :D
A good idea to start a new site - STOP-DATING-SPAMMERS!!!

Dear admin! Old New Year in Ukraine !!
Have you ever heard about such a holiday?

On the night of the 13th-14th of January we are having a special holiday, which exists only in the countries of the former USSR. It??s Old New Year :)) a funny name??

It??s New Year by the old calendar, which was in use before 1917.

Our people decided that it??s better not to waste another wonderful chance to have a feast and decided to leave this holiday in our lives. It will be another bright day in life of your lady, full of joy and smiles!

All the presents have been shared on the 1st and if you send something to your lovely lady, it will be a wonderful surprise!

If you wish to use this chance on this special holiday, please see our offer here:

---------------------------------------------------------

New management company
First of all we congratulate you with a Happy New Year and a Merry Christmas!

On this wonderful holiday, we are happy to inform you, that as of December 31,2006 Confidential Connections (and all its branches) have passed to a new management company IISPP INC and a new owner, IISPP INC

We have worked hard for 24 hours a day to make all the necessary changes to the sites and all the systems and we are glad to announce to you that the new sites ARE RUNNING ALREADY and you can freely use all our services now! New re-branding name of the site is UAladys.com

We at IISPP INC being a team of professionals, having a great experience, set a mission to raise quality of our customer's service.

We bring our deepest apologies for the temporal break in the former site's operation. Working day and night, our team has transferred all the old owner's databases to our new servers. It will substantively raise the quality and speed of the site!

We guarantee that all payments are restored in the full value that you paid. The whole correspondence, photo and video materials, and also condition of your private accounts on the site are remaining intact and you are able to continue communication with the ladies when you wish!

We have notified all ladies in advance about temporal break of correspondence. Please don't worry, ladies know about the reason of letters delay and are waiting for your return!

We ask you to accept 1 photo and 1 video credit to your profile as a gift from the new management company when you log in.

If you were unable to send a Christmas gift to your lady due to the site not working, you can still send a gift to her.

Below is Christmas specials that will be in effect until this Saturday.

admin, if you have personal propositions, remarks or suggestions regarding making our work better and more qualitative we will accept your opinion with the high attention and respect and will certainly take it into account while planning the new work strategy. You can pass a remark on our site in Support section.

We hope for the successful collaboration with you in the future. We will do everything possible to help you in finding your soul mate.

Sincerely and wish best wishes,


THOMAS MCKEVENY , GENERAL MANAGER IISPP INC
IISPP INC. 153 LAFAYETTE STREET FIFTH FLOOR
NEW YORK CITY, NY 10013
212 614 0100


If you wish to be removed from this mailing, please send an e-mail with your member # and Email address
to stopit@ualadys.com, you will be removed from our mailing list or click here.


Where did they get the word 'Admin' from. ? More importantly where did they get your email address. ? I have been trying to contact you but am not succeeding very well. Seems like ualady are succeeding better than me ? :(

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>

tot446
01-13-2007, 12:32 AM
Can you send me the names of those girls? you can send the names to tot446@ofir.dk

Thomas

dadepfan
01-13-2007, 01:00 AM
The agency does not normally give out any personal information about the clients, including their personal email address. And if you try to put personal info in a letter, they will block it out.

It seems now that Valentina has asked to be removed from the site completely. In her last letter to me, she expressed dismay that people here were "talking about her behind her back."

So she may have asked for my personal email address because she knew she was leaving the agency. I just emailed support to make damn sure that my letter was delivered and my email address was in fact given to Valentina, and I asked if they could give me hers.

Sounds optomistic, I know, but now I have no reason to spend any more money on CC. If she emails me then she is real and her interest is real. If not then, at least I know for sure!

Dave



quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

Actually, I finally got another letter from Valentina, and she asked me for my personal email. She said that she was "allowed" because of her situation - she is in Moscow at work, and has to call the agency at home to have her letters read to her. It will be interestig to see if CC lets it through.

I have not gotton a personal email from her yet though.

Dave
(quote)

Why would she ask 'you' for your email address. ? UAL have your email address so they would give it to her, surely. ? If you get an email from her at your own address I will eat my stinking hat. again. :D
Anyway, UAL would not allow it. I was away in hospital for a month, but they refused the girls my email address. !!

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


David A Desautel

tot446
01-13-2007, 01:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

HIYA Everyone!

Thanks Dublin Devil for starting this new site. Hopefully it will do some good and stop someone from getting scammed!

It appears to me that a lot of guys on this site are still living on their dream and still have doubt about CC or UA or what ever the flavor of the day is for these scam artists.

I just spent an hour reading all the posts that showed up while I was out of the USA. Yes, I went on vacation...to Cozumel...very nice and I certainly was not getting scammed there!

I know many people feel hurt and probably kind of foolish for wasting your time and money. I see that many do not want to expose the woman you are writing too. It is like you are still trying to protect her and still hoping that she is "real." I am sure she is, but not like what you think she is.

I was communicating with a girl that I met through a regular...cost free...website. This woman is from Muldova..next to the Ukraine. She writes me all the time, but they are short and to the point letters with fairly good english. I asked her for her mailing address and she gladly sent it along with her cell phone number. She also uses Yahoo and I see her on yahoo through her webcam. Why am I telling you this? I am telling you this because just about every woman below the mid-30's knows some English. I have been to Bulgaria, Romania and Russia and they all knew enough English to communicate. They learn it in school. It may be a little rough, but it is known.

We are all here to help each other out and the only way you can do that is to post who you were talking with and some of their letters. I have seen the squirrel story, the fishing story and the lady asking for coins story. I have also had stories about a hurrendous bus ride and many, many more.

If anyone wants pictures of the Elena G vacation, the Daria P beach trip, the Elena R I made these for you, the Alyonka you are my future....feel free to email me and I will send them to you. I do not remember who had the pictures of Miss 4001, but I would like to see those.

The bottom line is that these women do exist, they just do not exist in the way that they have made you feel. Go to the Ukraine during the summer...and go to the beach...there you will find plenty of women that you can enjoy and maybe find the right one.

Jim


Hello Jim

I would like to see the pictures of Elena R and Daria P. You can send them to tot446@ofir.dk

michaelhile
01-13-2007, 01:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

The agency does not normally give out any personal information about the clients, including their personal email address. And if you try to put personal info in a letter, they will block it out.

It seems now that Valentina has asked to be removed from the site completely. In her last letter to me, she expressed dismay that people here were "talking about her behind her back."

So she may have asked for my personal email address because she knew she was leaving the agency. I just emailed support to make damn sure that my letter was delivered and my email address was in fact given to Valentina, and I asked if they could give me hers.

Sounds optomistic, I know, but now I have no reason to spend any more money on CC. If she emails me then she is real and her interest is real. If not then, at least I know for sure!

Dave



quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

Actually, I finally got another letter from Valentina, and she asked me for my personal email. She said that she was "allowed" because of her situation - she is in Moscow at work, and has to call the agency at home to have her letters read to her. It will be interestig to see if CC lets it through.

I have not gotton a personal email from her yet though.

Dave
(quote)

Why would she ask 'you' for your email address. ? UAL have your email address so they would give it to her, surely. ? If you get an email from her at your own address I will eat my stinking hat. again. :D
Anyway, UAL would not allow it. I was away in hospital for a month, but they refused the girls my email address. !!

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>


David A Desautel
Hey David, I got a two letters back to back from Valentina1/11/07 saying the same thing. Said she was asking for my email and leavng the agency. I am thinking just because some of these girls may not use the agency for letters anymore there are so many more ways to continue the cash cow. If you like email me and I will send a copy of the letters she wrote.
Michae Hile

michaelhile
01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
Dave,
Here are the two letters from Valentina, note the time.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject: Valentina B. #7548
Michael H. #306714
11 January 2007 11:58:30

Re: !!!!!
________________________________________
TRANSLATED FOR VALENTINA
I am so sorry for that very fact taht I dessapointed you:(......I am at loss



From:
To:
Date:

Subject: Valentina B. #7548
Michael H. #306714
11 January 2007 11:57:49

YOU AND ME?
________________________________________
TRANSLATED FOR VALENTINA
Hello my darling!!!
Thank you so much for your letter for your warrmth for everything that you did for me! I know that I am lucky woman that Ihad ypou in my life!!
My darling maybe it can be silly now to express everything that i really wanted to say but just now I am at loss!
I had you like a light of my life!! But I have to confess that it was always very difficult to read all your letters and to respond you in a decent way!! So it is really true that I made a copy just to keep you interested that is why I beg you to appologize me!
I have no other explanation!! Anyway I really appreciate having you in my life!!Please do not judge me, now I am really serious and sincere with you!
Well I tried to rule everything under the control and be with you and meet you!! but just yesterday I had a very serious conference and I was offered to stay and create much better business here:)
So iif you do not mind I contacted with this agency and they made me a permission you to give me your personal email and after I get it I will leave this siter because it is too difficult for me:(
What do you think? casn you give us a chance?

I thought I should post these for the benefit of everyone. I have looked at the forum all week, but when I came back, what I have read has blown me away.
I guess it will take losing all your money, sacrifice your integrity and pride, before some of you get the final picture.
I have been clean and sober for almost 20 years. There is a phrase we use for the newbie who just can not seem to get it.
"DOING THE SAME THING, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and still expecting different reslults"
I have seen men and women both lose everything and for some even their lives before they finally get it. Sadly for some by then it is too late!!
I am starting to see a lot of that here.
Michaelhile

wwsmith
01-13-2007, 02:42 AM
Hi all, new to the forum so forgive any errors.

hairbag30, I have also been exchanging mail with Anna T #7586. We've been in contact since sometime in August 2006. I've also been talking with Nadezhda A #1875 (Kharkov), who recently told me that I am the only one she is writing too, but yet she remains at the top of the top 100. Looks like I'm unlucky twice.

s-

dadepfan
01-13-2007, 03:33 AM
Hey Michael

Very similar words in the last letter I got, except that she did not actually say that she was leaving the agency. Let me know if she actually writes you.

How do you think she plans to continue to get money out of us? It will be interesting to see what she does! At best, she is still keeping her options open, and at worst she is still trying to scam you and I and who knows how many more!

I asked UAL to send me her personal email adress, and refund the money I paid for future emails to her. LOL! Let's see what they do!

Dave


quote:Originally posted by michaelhile

Dave,
Here are the two letters from Valentina, note the time.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject: Valentina B. #7548
Michael H. #306714
11 January 2007 11:58:30

Re: !!!!!
________________________________________
TRANSLATED FOR VALENTINA
I am so sorry for that very fact taht I dessapointed you:(......I am at loss



From:
To:
Date:

Subject: Valentina B. #7548
Michael H. #306714
11 January 2007 11:57:49

YOU AND ME?
________________________________________
TRANSLATED FOR VALENTINA
Hello my darling!!!
Thank you so much for your letter for your warrmth for everything that you did for me! I know that I am lucky woman that Ihad ypou in my life!!
My darling maybe it can be silly now to express everything that i really wanted to say but just now I am at loss!
I had you like a light of my life!! But I have to confess that it was always very difficult to read all your letters and to respond you in a decent way!! So it is really true that I made a copy just to keep you interested that is why I beg you to appologize me!
I have no other explanation!! Anyway I really appreciate having you in my life!!Please do not judge me, now I am really serious and sincere with you!
Well I tried to rule everything under the control and be with you and meet you!! but just yesterday I had a very serious conference and I was offered to stay and create much better business here:)
So iif you do not mind I contacted with this agency and they made me a permission you to give me your personal email and after I get it I will leave this siter because it is too difficult for me:(
What do you think? casn you give us a chance?

I thought I should post these for the benefit of everyone. I have looked at the forum all week, but when I came back, what I have read has blown me away.
I guess it will take losing all your money, sacrifice your integrity and pride, before some of you get the final picture.
I have been clean and sober for almost 20 years. There is a phrase we use for the newbie who just can not seem to get it.
"DOING THE SAME THING, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and still expecting different reslults"
I have seen men and women both lose everything and for some even their lives before they finally get it. Sadly for some by then it is too late!!
I am starting to see a lot of that here.
Michaelhile


David A Desautel

Karl
01-13-2007, 09:04 AM
NEOFLIGHT, could you send be the number of the two women you wrote about? (torbjorn777@ hotmail.com)
If anyone wants to have english translated into russian and vice versa, this is a very good site: online-translator.com

Kevin
01-13-2007, 09:45 AM
Just because a girl is in the top 100 it doesn't mean they receive alot of emails. It just means that their profile has been viewed by alot of people. I know I sound optipmistic about it but not everyone could be out to get you.

Like I said before, I have recorded the webcams of their site when I worte to her. Everytime she wrote to me I received a ltter from her within about an hour of when she left the agency. Once or twice I did record thinking she would write to me and she didn't I didn't she her there.

bachelorboy101
01-13-2007, 10:17 AM
Hi Nomorescam

Yes, I have been communicating with Nadja (3867). Has she sent you her "private" photos yet?

Here are a few letters I have received from her:

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

It's me, your girl from Ukraine;))) Here we have the last days of this year. I do not know whether I'll be able to write you till the 3rd of January. It seems to me that the office will be closed;-(((( It's a pity that I won't read your letters, but please wirte me because I want you to know that I think of you and I do not want to lose you. I'll come and just imagine how happy I wilI be to realise that you do not want to let me go in next year. I am really so glad that this year turned out to be so happy as I found you here. I want to say you "Happy New Year!" and I want to say SORRY for everything wrong I said last year, maybe for smth which you did not like in me. I just wanted to be myself and I wish everything to be better and happier in your family.

Just now you can observe such a fuss in Poltava. The markets are full of people, shops are overcrowded, everybody is trying ti buy smth pleasant for relatives and friends. I also have already bought presents for my parents and friends: many piglets of different size;) So as for me I celebrate New Year at home with my parents and be sure that when it strikes midnight and when our glasses are filled with champaigne I'll drink for you and for our happiness. Let the piglet make smth good for us in 2007!!!;))))) I really appreciate you and everything you do for me, you are the best man I have ever met, hope you are staying with me!!!

Sincerely Nadja

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

At last I managed to get you! It was so difficult. Do you know there were some problems with the site. I even did not know what to do. I thought that I had completely lost connection with you. But now everything is fine that's why both of us can relax. How were you and what news my darling wants to tell me?;))))))))))

Do you know that we had Christmas last weekend? Actually during the whole weekend I stayed at home with my family. I even did not want to leave the house. I watched TV as there were many different programs and movies. I stayed in bed and did nothing so you see how lazy I am;))) Do you still like me?;))))))))

Ok, I am waiting for your letter very much.

Kiss you softly

Nadja

p.s. Dear ****, I'd like you to be the first to come and visit me;)

----------------------------------------------------

Ps: - Karl, I have loads of letters from Daria P, if you want me to post any, she did seem pretty genuine, as I have had a few letters when I told her about my mother going in for an operation and my sister being pregnant, and she has asked me about these things in her letters, however, I`m sure Im not the first to be duped, lol:)

Jo Blo
01-13-2007, 10:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by Karl

NEOFLIGHT, could you send be the number of the two women you wrote about? (torbjorn777@ hotmail.com)
If anyone wants to have english translated into russian and vice versa, this is a very good site: online-translator.com
Dear Karl , if you want to translate Russian to English try "SYSTRAN" on yahoo.com , this is also a good site i have translated many letters from there, whu not try it at least, see for yourself !! yours , Jo Blo

Jo Blo
01-13-2007, 10:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Dublin

How much do the women pay?

Dave



Haha. Goodness knows. ? Something we will never know.:)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>
Hello Dublin devil, how are you mate ?? Did those names help in any way, if they did please let me know how much? i may be able to help more, just ask if you want, i will try to help if i can, i have noticed several inconsistencies in the letters i received, about 3 months ago i received a letter from Irina S (SHOBOLOVA) and Elena T , a beautiful young woman , they were the same letter word for word , sent 25 min apart from Simferopol and CC claims they do not do this , what bull**** and crap that is !!,I know that Zhenya P from Kremenchug is a 1st cousin to Yana K #3903 Poltava !!have a look at their photos there is more than a passing resemblance, yours 'Jo Blo'.

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 10:46 AM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Dublin

Just a thought: do you want to edit your first post so that any newcomers / from google et al will know to go to the scam or not section and look at all the info from the previous section on CC?

Neoflight


Good idea. Have changed it. Hope its now better ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Kevin
01-13-2007, 11:15 AM
Just went trough my old email CC sends when you get a letter or have not responded to one for a while. I notice that I have gotten alot of their surnames included in the email they sent to me. A few that I will post # of girl that a few people write about on here. They are 1275, 1875, 1586, I have 36 of them in all plus the girl I have been writing to. I can post # of girl here or you can contact me if yo would like to know if I have your girl. You can email me if you don't want me to post it here. My email is SHEA@softhome.net

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 11:40 AM
Having read almost every letter posted here, and having had letter writing experience with normal girls in Ukraine who are not with an agency, I have to say that I think every letter I have read is either false, rubbish, or an outright scam by CC staff. NO normal FSU girl is going to write such 'clap trap' and IF any of the girls do actually exist then they are in the pay of CC and getting a part of the profits. ALL the letters are worded so as attract men to write back and spend more money. The pictures, and lack of clothing and provocative poses are all designed to get Guys 'heated' up. If anyone looked at 'tverangels' or 'datingnmore' as I suggested you will find 'real' women on those sites. You will immediately be struck by the difference in the women. Clothes, appearance, poses, are all natural, just like any women who are not trying to scam anybody. I think Guys have to accept this and realise they are being scammed, and move on elsewhere. I have left my profile on UAL but only for access purposes to enable me to continue to write to Support. Any letters reveived from girls get an immediate 'not interested' reply.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 11:43 AM
If anyone sent our recommended letter to 'support' on UAL, the letter which I posted here earlier, can they please post and confirm they sent it. ? Would be nice to know how many were sent, and how often they will be sent. Thanks Guys. Am off now to continue work on UAL.Net. ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 12:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

Having read almost every letter posted here, and having had letter writing experience with normal girls in Ukraine who are not with an agency, I have to say that I think every letter I have read is either false, rubbish, or an outright scam by CC staff. NO normal FSU girl is going to write such 'clap trap' and IF any of the girls do actually exist then they are in the pay of CC and getting a part of the profits. ALL the letters are worded so as attract men to write back and spend more money. The pictures, and lack of clothing and provocative poses are all designed to get Guys 'heated' up. If anyone looked at 'tverangels' or 'datingnmore' as I suggested you will find 'real' women on those sites. You will immediately be struck by the difference in the women. Clothes, appearance, poses, are all natural, just like any women who are not trying to scam anybody. I think Guys have to accept this and realise they are being scammed, and move on elsewhere. I have left my profile on UAL but only for access purposes to enable me to continue to write to Support. Any letters reveived from girls get an immediate 'not interested' reply.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>



Its funny you should say in the pay of CC!!!!! On one of the dates i went on, we had both had a bit to drink..... Well the girl made a joke about only being hear because CC pay her! After all these revelations I'm not so sure it was a joke!
Kook, Line and Sinker!


Thats 'very' interesting. ! Please tell us more. Have you written about this trip previously ? As you have been there and dated a girl from CC then your whole story would make VERY interesting reading for all the Guys. !! Your reception by CC.. The cost.. The 'proceedure'.. The girl herself.. Your previous letters to her.. How did it all end. ? If you have already posted it here I apologise. We are a victim of our own success in that there are now far too many posts to read back on all of them ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

nomorescam
01-13-2007, 01:09 PM
quote:Hi Nomorescam

Yes, I have been communicating with Nadja (3867). Has she sent you her "private" photos yet?

Here are a few letters I have received from her:

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

It's me, your girl from Ukraine;))) Here we have the last days of this year. I do not know whether I'll be able to write you till the 3rd of January. It seems to me that the office will be closed;-(((( It's a pity that I won't read your letters, but please wirte me because I want you to know that I think of you and I do not want to lose you. I'll come and just imagine how happy I wilI be to realise that you do not want to let me go in next year. I am really so glad that this year turned out to be so happy as I found you here. I want to say you "Happy New Year!" and I want to say SORRY for everything wrong I said last year, maybe for smth which you did not like in me. I just wanted to be myself and I wish everything to be better and happier in your family.

Just now you can observe such a fuss in Poltava. The markets are full of people, shops are overcrowded, everybody is trying ti buy smth pleasant for relatives and friends. I also have already bought presents for my parents and friends: many piglets of different size;) So as for me I celebrate New Year at home with my parents and be sure that when it strikes midnight and when our glasses are filled with champaigne I'll drink for you and for our happiness. Let the piglet make smth good for us in 2007!!!;))))) I really appreciate you and everything you do for me, you are the best man I have ever met, hope you are staying with me!!!

Sincerely Nadja

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----------------------------------------------

THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED BY KATERINA D. FOR NADEZHDA N.

Hello dear ****!

At last I managed to get you! It was so difficult. Do you know there were some problems with the site. I even did not know what to do. I thought that I had completely lost connection with you. But now everything is fine that's why both of us can relax. How were you and what news my darling wants to tell me?;))))))))))

Do you know that we had Christmas last weekend? Actually during the whole weekend I stayed at home with my family. I even did not want to leave the house. I watched TV as there were many different programs and movies. I stayed in bed and did nothing so you see how lazy I am;))) Do you still like me?;))))))))

Ok, I am waiting for your letter very much.

Kiss you softly

Nadja

p.s. Dear ****, I'd like you to be the first to come and visit me;)


Hi bachelorboy

Thanks for the copy of Nadja?s letters.

I have received her photos.
With a flower. Caption says a little present for you.
With her mother. Caption says she is in Turkey. They all seem to go to Turkey. Interesting?
In Vienna. Outside the government building.
In Paris. Outside the cathedral.

Your first letters has some cut and pastes from a letter I received.
Second is word for word on the 9th of January. If you got the second letter on the 9th could you let me know what time please?

I replied to a letter from her yesterday, asking her a few questions about her letters, and I am waiting for her reply.

nomorescam
01-13-2007, 01:16 PM
quote:If anyone sent our recommended letter to 'support' on UAL, the letter which I posted here earlier, can they please post and confirm they sent it. ? Would be nice to know how many were sent, and how often they will be sent. Thanks Guys. Am off now to continue work on UAL.Net. !


dublin

Letter sent yesterday, today and everyday till i get a reply:D

GMAN
01-13-2007, 01:35 PM
I wrote to the support site of cc three times asking about duplicate letters girls not answering direct questions are the girls real etc everytime they give the same excuse they are one of the biggest agencies the people on the forum are working for other agencies to blacken their name they dont answer my questions .Howcome there are not forums for all the agencies then they have something to hide they also said anybody can go on the internet i must read the testimonials how do i know if they are real .The one girl julia k said in a letter she agrees with what my mother said funny i did not mention my mother she has been dead for 9 years .Somebody else asked if anybody was writing to Elana z 1859 yes i was.

gtearne

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jo Blo


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by dadepfan

Dublin

How much do the women pay?

Dave



Haha. Goodness knows. ? Something we will never know.:)

<h3>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h3>
Hello Dublin devil, how are you mate ?? Did those names help in any way, if they did please let me know how much? i may be able to help more, just ask if you want, i will try to help if i can, i have noticed several inconsistencies in the letters i received, about 3 months ago i received a letter from Irina S (SHOBOLOVA) and Elena T , a beautiful young woman , they were the same letter word for word , sent 25 min apart from Simferopol and CC claims they do not do this , what bull**** and crap that is !!,I know that Zhenya P from Kremenchug is a 1st cousin to Yana K #3903 Poltava !!have a look at their photos there is more than a passing resemblance, yours 'Jo Blo'.


Great. Thanks. Have not had time to follow up yet, but will do so as soon as I can.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 02:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

I wrote to the support site of cc three times asking about duplicate letters girls not answering direct questions are the girls real etc everytime they give the same excuse they are one of the biggest agencies the people on the forum are working for other agencies to blacken their name they dont answer my questions .Howcome there are not forums for all the agencies then they have something to hide they also said anybody can go on the internet i must read the testimonials how do i know if they are real .The one girl julia k said in a letter she agrees with what my mother said funny i did not mention my mother she has been dead for 9 years .Somebody else asked if anybody was writing to Elana z 1859 yes i was.

gtearne


Hahaha.. They are such fools, and believe we are just fools too.
We have to keep 'at them'. Pester them with letters and questions on the site. Some day for sure, they will give up and release something to somebody or to one of us. ! We also need to hurt them where it hurts most (no not there !) in their bank accounts. ! If we all refrain from paying one cent more, and this site, and mine, get to be widely advertised on Google and Yahoo, then they are going to eventually suffer. ! "Power to the people" :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

nomorescam
01-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Guys

Something for you to try, see where it takes you.
I found it quite interesting. Something tells me ualadys could be setting up some other services.

Go to the ualadys site.
Go to support.
Click on sitemap.
Scroll down till you see branches sites.
Now click on what takes your fancy.

When you try and whois the sites they are private.
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.

nicklish57
01-13-2007, 03:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight


quote:Originally posted by nomorescam

Guys

Something for you to try, see where it takes you.
I found it quite interesting. Something tells me ualadys could be setting up some other services.

Go to the ualadys site.
Go to support.
Click on sitemap.
Scroll down till you see branches sites.
Now click on what takes your fancy.

When you try and whois the sites they are private.
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.




Good Catch!!!!

Looks like these site have been parked!

zhitomir looks like it is for sale...... and was registared last April!

and a few seem to go to pornographic sites...... but i suppose it is just keepign up with MR Salvasens Allegations! ;)


Oh and they haven't even bothered buying Lutsk-dating.com hahahaha

Dumb and lazy!!!!!!

Black Holes and Revelations....



Something that you all may want to check is to see if some pictures in you picture folders have been deleted. any picture I had of Valentina that I did not purchsae is gone..

Prometheus
01-13-2007, 03:54 PM
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

I took the red pill. WOW.

I do think we have some blue pill takers here, but what the hell. SS, CC, UAL, i.e., "the Matrix" are reading everything we've posted and are reacting. Why would a girl correspond "I've heard you're talking about me" if she can't read English and has no Internet access? I've had letters disappearing from my "history" file on a daily basis, as well as photos. Either the girls are leaving in droves, or they are cleaning up the incriminating evidence.

Tomas
01-13-2007, 03:56 PM
Hi my friends :):):):):):)

Prometheus
01-13-2007, 04:24 PM
"the foul inexorable stench of corruption..."

Good one Neo.

Hey, Tomas! Welcome, but you need to check the rules. "No posting smiley faces unless you give us some useful information." This is sort of like AA for UALADYS addicts. We've all taken a twelve step vow, but your story would be appreciated, and perhaps helpful.

Karl
01-13-2007, 06:42 PM
NEOFLIGHT thanks for your e-mail! When it comes to girls cutting and pasting I understood that this was happening a long time ago. I didn't think it was so bad. If the girls are writing 10-20 letters it's only natural to do a bit of c and p. I've done it myself. My questions were most of the time answered and the content of my letter commented. About half the letter or more could have been adressed to just about anyone. Now I have taken the red pill and it's a relief. Somehow a suspicion has alway been lurking in the back of my head. Now it has been confirmed. One question. I've been writing extensivly to #4271 and she has always seemed sincere, without any c and p or generic letters. Has anyone been writing to her? Please tell me your opinion of her. CC will never get another dollar from me:(

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 06:56 PM
quote: One question. I've been writing extensivly to #4271 and she has always seemed sincere, without any c and p or generic letters. Has anyone been writing to her? Please tell me your opinion of her. CC will never get another dollar from me:(


CC will never get another dollar from me:(

Well said. I hope everybody follows your advice. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 06:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Tomas

Hi my friends :):):):):):)


Wasup doc. ? :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

imported_uljoh
01-13-2007, 07:31 PM
<center>Once there was that CC site
I thought it was all right
Cause, my sweet little beauty showed up so fast
I was so sure our relation would last
Sweet words came out of her mouth
I had to plan a trip further south
-
Then suddenly bad things happened within an hour
I felt I could lose my strength and power
My sweet little lady, was no longer all mine
So, I guess I gotta have some more of that 14% wine
Will she be reborn in ualadys, and so be part of my fam`
Or is that ualadys also a scam?</center> ;)

nomorescam
01-13-2007, 08:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

just found this nice little Google maps mash up!

Great for Graphically tracing your E-mail headers!

&lt;A HREF="http://map.butterfat.net/emailroutemap/"&gt;Google Maps Mash up Email tacker!&lt;/A&gt;

Black Holes and Revelations....


Nice One;)

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 08:15 PM
Wow. We are now breeding Poets on here. ! Must be the release of tension upon knowing the truth about CC. Well, better that than to get depressed. :D Any more budding poets. ? All entries welcome. ! :)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 08:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

just found this nice little Google maps mash up!

Great for Graphically tracing your E-mail headers!

&lt;A HREF="http://map.butterfat.net/emailroutemap/"&gt;Google Maps Mash up Email tacker!&lt;/A&gt;

Black Holes and Revelations....

Very interesting. ! I tried a few of the spam emails listed on my CC.Net but they all seem to originate in Dallas, Texas, according to the 'Map'.!! A little strange. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

helskar
01-13-2007, 08:46 PM
You can make an unexpected & nice surprise for your special lady! You should agree that it's very romantic when your present will be delivered by "A real Santa". Don't forget to choose a present from the above list!
The SantaScam.Crooks

quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

Wow. We are now breeding Poets on here. ! Must be the release of tension upon knowing the truth about CC. Well, better that than to get depressed. :D Any more budding poets. ? All entries welcome. ! :)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Did some browsing on UAL. Found that all pictures not yet purchased by me have been removed. My own picture gallery of 74 girls pic's is not now viewable. The pages are all screwed up and block off half the pictures. - including the nude ones :(
So, I sent them a message, "that as I paid for all those Pic's and cannot now access them then I want all my money back".
My own personal pic's in my own folder have also been deleted. !
The 'top 100' appear to be corrupt pages now as well.
There are 165 letters in my mailbox, which represents a heck of a lot of money. ! :(
Seem's like they have gone to hell now if they cannot even program their pages properly.
No answer yet to the long letter we sent them. Will keep sending it each day until they reply or give up. !
Have written to my lawyer in USA. Interested to see what he has to say. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-13-2007, 09:18 PM
I see there are now 15,000 viewing on the C.C. Thread. !! Wonder how high it will go. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

helskar
01-13-2007, 09:58 PM
They really are the Scum of the Scam...!!!
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

I see there are now 15,000 viewing on the C.C. Thread. !! Wonder how high it will go. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

bachelorboy101
01-13-2007, 10:17 PM
Nomorescam

yes, the 2nd letter I posted was sent on 9th Jan:

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:
Nadezhda N. #3867
**************
09 January 2007 08:38:25

For you!

--------------------------------------

I have the photo of her and her mother on hols in Turkey sitting at a table, and her "european vacation" pics, however, she also sent me some "just for you" pictures at xmas which were very very provocative with very little clothing....

bachelorboy101
01-13-2007, 11:20 PM
lol, just logged in to Ualadys, and yes, I have a new photo from Nadja - entitled "my little present for you" she is pictured with what looks like a red rose, wasn`t gonna pay for it!

siberianhusky
01-13-2007, 11:57 PM
Thought this would be interesting to read!! I went on the UA site and made a new profile with new picture so I can bring more proof that this site is a scam and you will not believe who the first letter I received from........any guesses?????? Well you will see.....


13 January 2007 13:43:39

Do you want to become the happiest man in the world? Write to me....


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear _____!

There's a legend:

At the beginning God made people that were the combination of the male and female features. But they were too proud and God decided to split them with a sword. And since then people search for their second half.

I think that only few humans can find their real second half, and most of people live their lives unhappily. But those who have found their significant ones - they become the happiest in the world.

Life is so unpredictable and I do want to believe that we`ll give each other love, warmth of our hearts, that we will share happy moments as well as sad moments in our life.

I think that the most precious thing in this world is communication. And the communication that is able to cover a great distance is even more interesting and fascinating.

One of my dreams is to go to some beautiful tropical island. What about you, where would you like to travel? And have you ever been in Ukraine?

Tell me please more about yourself, your city, likes and dislikes... Have you ever been married? Do you have children? And please fell free to ask me what you like.

Best wishes,

Hope to hear from you soon,

Elena.



Yes this is from Elena G. #1586 and it is the same first letter I received with my original profile, so as you can all see this is a scam beyond belief and they (meaning both company and the women) are taking us for fools and our pocket books. Hope everyone will realize that it is not worth giving them money and save all your letters and photos from the girls for future evidence. I have saved and printed all my letters and photos so even if they to delete them I have them on my computer where they will never be deleted plus I burned all the photos/letters to a cd.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

imported_uljoh
01-14-2007, 09:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

I went on the UA site and made a new profile with new picture so I can bring more proof that this site is a scam and you will not believe who the first letter I received from........any guesses?


13 January 2007 13:43:39

Do you want to become the happiest man in the world? Write to me....


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear _____!

There's a legend:

At the beginning God made people that were the combination of the male and female features. But they were too proud and God decided to split them with a sword. And since then people search for their second half.

I think that only few humans can find their real second half, and most of people live their lives unhappily. But those who have found their significant ones - they become the happiest in the world.

Life is so unpredictable and I do want to believe that we`ll give each other love, warmth of our hearts, that we will share happy moments as well as sad moments in our life.

I think that the most precious thing in this world is communication. And the communication that is able to cover a great distance is even more interesting and fascinating.

One of my dreams is to go to some beautiful tropical island. What about you, where would you like to travel? And have you ever been in Ukraine?

Tell me please more about yourself, your city, likes and dislikes... Have you ever been married? Do you have children? And please fell free to ask me what you like.

Best wishes,

Hope to hear from you soon,

Elena.



Yes this is from Elena G. #1586 and it is the same first letter I received with my original profil.
.....

Thanks
Siberian


Well done! Ive been thinking about doing this myself. But dont they trace your IP-adress. Or maybe they dont from the start?

/ uljoh

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 10:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Thought this would be interesting to read!! I went on the UA site and made a new profile with new picture so I can bring more proof that this site is a scam and you will not believe who the first letter I received from........any guesses?????? Well you will see.....


13 January 2007 13:43:39

Do you want to become the happiest man in the world? Write to me....


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear _____!

There's a legend:

At the beginning God made people that were the combination of the male and female features. But they were too proud and God decided to split them with a sword. And since then people search for their second half.

I think that only few humans can find their real second half, and most of people live their lives unhappily. But those who have found their significant ones - they become the happiest in the world.

Life is so unpredictable and I do want to believe that we`ll give each other love, warmth of our hearts, that we will share happy moments as well as sad moments in our life.

I think that the most precious thing in this world is communication. And the communication that is able to cover a great distance is even more interesting and fascinating.

One of my dreams is to go to some beautiful tropical island. What about you, where would you like to travel? And have you ever been in Ukraine?

Tell me please more about yourself, your city, likes and dislikes... Have you ever been married? Do you have children? And please fell free to ask me what you like.

Best wishes,

Hope to hear from you soon,

Elena.



Yes this is from Elena G. #1586 and it is the same first letter I received with my original profile, so as you can all see this is a scam beyond belief and they (meaning both company and the women) are taking us for fools and our pocket books. Hope everyone will realize that it is not worth giving them money and save all your letters and photos from the girls for future evidence. I have saved and printed all my letters and photos so even if they to delete them I have them on my computer where they will never be deleted plus I burned all the photos/letters to a cd.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone


Wow. ! Wouldn't you think that they would clean up their act and at least check that such stupid letters do not get sent, and that they don't keep repeating their old mistakes. ? Just shows that as well as being absolute crooks they are also as intelligent as a can of dog food. Hopefully all the revelations on here will now disuade everybody from ever writing another letter or paying another cent. ? I wonder how much they pay the girls for their pictures and video's. ? As has been said before, this must be one of the biggest scams of all time ? Can we not get Google in on the act to expose them ? How about CNN. Fox. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 10:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Well I was just in a pub and i had a thought!

All this talk of pictures....

well I thought i would check the digital finger prints on the pictures i was sent......

I thought that they might not correspond to the date that they say they were taken.

But sadly mine do :( except one set...... but it was a "this is what i look like now" set before my trip..... and i noticed in the fingerprint that they were taken on different camera to the other pictures that she sent...... (SO i guess that the camera date wasn't set correctly)


Anyway.... if you load Google Piccasa up and look at the properties of the picture then it will display all of the fingerprint info eg: the camera it was taken on, the time and date, the exposer and all sorts..... theres even a light graph (so you can tell, with a little skill if the time of day matches the light scales).


I did this on Piccasa which is free on Google.... but i guess that this info can be read on Photoshop etc... but I'm not certain... because i have only done it on Google Piccasa...



Edited: Never minde the light scale thing!!!!!! I must have seen that in my Cannon digicam software.

Black Holes and Revelations....

I have also been checking on the photos. I used windows 'properties'. Just right click on the photo and choose properties. It only give the bare info, not anything like Picasso.

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 10:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

Did some browsing on UAL. Found that all pictures not yet purchased by me have been removed. My own picture gallery of 74 girls pic's is not now viewable. The pages are all screwed up and block off half the pictures. - including the nude ones :(
So, I sent them a message, "that as I paid for all those Pic's and cannot now access them then I want all my money back".
My own personal pic's in my own folder have also been deleted. !
The 'top 100' appear to be corrupt pages now as well.
There are 165 letters in my mailbox, which represents a heck of a lot of money. ! :(
Seem's like they have gone to hell now if they cannot even program their pages properly.
No answer yet to the long letter we sent them. Will keep sending it each day until they reply or give up. !
Have written to my lawyer in USA. Interested to see what he has to say. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


Well as of 02.20 GMT all of my UL accoutns seems to be in order.

but what is confusing me is..... If they know who you are then why just delete unaccepted photos?

Why not close our accounts?

But i suppose with eh site hosted in the USA they would lead them selfs open to a lawsuit... for not providing a service you paid for!

but i bet if they know who you are: as soon as your e-mail photo and video credits hit zero.... then bang your account is gone!


The enemy walk amongst us........





Black Holes and Revelations....


Actually they don't seem to be removing accounts. All my credits are Zero but I am still on the site. (as of last night anyway). :)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Siberian[/b][/red]
[/quote]

Well done! Ive been thinking about doing this myself. But dont they trace your IP-adress. Or maybe they dont from the start?

/ uljoh
[/quote]

Have a look at CC.NET. ! I did it a long time ago and used the name 'daffy'. ! :) The results of what happened (my removal from the site) are all listed there. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

siberianhusky
01-14-2007, 10:57 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

Thought this would be interesting to read!! I went on the UA site and made a new profile with new picture so I can bring more proof that this site is a scam and you will not believe who the first letter I received from........any guesses?????? Well you will see.....


13 January 2007 13:43:39

Do you want to become the happiest man in the world? Write to me....


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear _____!

There's a legend:

At the beginning God made people that were the combination of the male and female features. But they were too proud and God decided to split them with a sword. And since then people search for their second half.

I think that only few humans can find their real second half, and most of people live their lives unhappily. But those who have found their significant ones - they become the happiest in the world.

Life is so unpredictable and I do want to believe that we`ll give each other love, warmth of our hearts, that we will share happy moments as well as sad moments in our life.

I think that the most precious thing in this world is communication. And the communication that is able to cover a great distance is even more interesting and fascinating.

One of my dreams is to go to some beautiful tropical island. What about you, where would you like to travel? And have you ever been in Ukraine?

Tell me please more about yourself, your city, likes and dislikes... Have you ever been married? Do you have children? And please fell free to ask me what you like.

Best wishes,

Hope to hear from you soon,

Elena.



Yes this is from Elena G. #1586 and it is the same first letter I received with my original profile, so as you can all see this is a scam beyond belief and they (meaning both company and the women) are taking us for fools and our pocket books. Hope everyone will realize that it is not worth giving them money and save all your letters and photos from the girls for future evidence. I have saved and printed all my letters and photos so even if they to delete them I have them on my computer where they will never be deleted plus I burned all the photos/letters to a cd.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone


Wow. ! Wouldn't you think that they would clean up their act and at least check that such stupid letters do not get sent, and that they don't keep repeating their old mistakes. ? Just shows that as well as being absolute crooks they are also as intelligent as a can of dog food. Hopefully all the revelations on here will now disuade everybody from ever writing another letter or paying another cent. ? I wonder how much they pay the girls for their pictures and video's. ? As has been said before, this must be one of the biggest scams of all time ? Can we not get Google in on the act to expose them ? How about CNN. Fox. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


I can try sending some emails out to local networks and national one's to see if they bite back with any kind of response. I believe if we pester the news companys with emails from people all over the world who have experienced everything we went through then it is possible to become recognized. I will try my best to bring this out in the open for everyone to see.

While I was typing this a thought came to mind and it is if we bring this out to the new's agencies will it help with our future legal battles or break us? I do not want to expose to much if it will hurt us, so maybe someone who knows a decent lawyer who knows the right kind of legal precedent(case), ask before we begin to show everyone what cards we have in our hands. Just a thought!!!

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

siberianhusky
01-14-2007, 11:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by uljoh


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

I went on the UA site and made a new profile with new picture so I can bring more proof that this site is a scam and you will not believe who the first letter I received from........any guesses?


13 January 2007 13:43:39

Do you want to become the happiest man in the world? Write to me....


THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear _____!

There's a legend:

At the beginning God made people that were the combination of the male and female features. But they were too proud and God decided to split them with a sword. And since then people search for their second half.

I think that only few humans can find their real second half, and most of people live their lives unhappily. But those who have found their significant ones - they become the happiest in the world.

Life is so unpredictable and I do want to believe that we`ll give each other love, warmth of our hearts, that we will share happy moments as well as sad moments in our life.

I think that the most precious thing in this world is communication. And the communication that is able to cover a great distance is even more interesting and fascinating.

One of my dreams is to go to some beautiful tropical island. What about you, where would you like to travel? And have you ever been in Ukraine?

Tell me please more about yourself, your city, likes and dislikes... Have you ever been married? Do you have children? And please fell free to ask me what you like.

Best wishes,

Hope to hear from you soon,

Elena.



Yes this is from Elena G. #1586 and it is the same first letter I received with my original profil.
.....

Thanks
Siberian


Well done! Ive been thinking about doing this myself. But dont they trace your IP-adress. Or maybe they dont from the start?

/ uljoh


Remember I did this for an experiment to see whether they have changed things around and they stated the obvious with this letter so now it helps with more of a legal battle against them and this letter is a great piece of evidence. I do not care if they trace the IP but look they can't even change a single letter that has been sent out to probably hundreds of guys for a year or more. Let them trace all they want because it will not stop me from sending letters to them until they crack.

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

Jo Blo
01-14-2007, 12:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


Siberian[/b][/red]


Well done! Ive been thinking about doing this myself. But dont they trace your IP-adress. Or maybe they dont from the start?

/ uljoh
[/quote]

Have a look at CC.NET. ! I did it a long time ago and used the name 'daffy'. ! :) The results of what happened (my removal from the site) are all listed there. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>
[/quote]Siberian & Dublindevil, everytine you purchase email & photo credits they record your computer IP No;, ironically they record your IP No: for fraud prevention purposes, isnt that very coincidental, ha ha ?? Yours Jo Blo

GMAN
01-14-2007, 01:48 PM
I also created a new profile and received the same letter from Elena G Have you read their antiscam details on their site where a guy caught two girls trieing to get money out of him he complained and they answered the agency has been going for 4 years they are clean their name hardly ever appears on scam forums or sites so what is this then an illusion .I wrote to them saying Elena G is a scammer i am waiting to see what they reply.

gtearne

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 02:09 PM
I can try sending some emails out to local networks and national one's to see if they bite back with any kind of response. I believe if we pester the news companys with emails from people all over the world who have experienced everything we went through then it is possible to become recognized. I will try my best to bring this out in the open for everyone to see.

While I was typing this a thought came to mind and it is if we bring this out to the new's agencies will it help with our future legal battles or break us? I do not want to expose to much if it will hurt us, so maybe someone who knows a decent lawyer who knows the right kind of legal precedent(case), ask before we begin to show everyone what cards we have in our hands. Just a thought!!!

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone
-----------------------
You might be right. ? Who knows what the legal eagles will come up with. ? It looks to me as though we are in for the long haul. :(
Lawyers never rush anything, not from my experiences anyway. It remains to be seen if the Guys on here are in for the long haul ?
Obviously some like myself, and one or two others who appear to be dedicated, but the rest ? Maybe we should hold a 'poll' ? How about centralising all the information, letters, Pic's, page downloads, et al. ? Aren't there places on Google, Yahoo, where people can store things. ? If everybodys evidence and material were stored centrally then all it would require is to give a lawyer the URL and he can browse the lot, at his leasure. ? I have loads of bandwith and storage on CC.Net but I don't know how complicated it would be to upload everything there. ? Passwords and Login names etc. ?
Anyone any ideas. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

helskar
01-14-2007, 03:09 PM
I do not see why not reporting: that TART & THE OTHERS? with all of her/their pics as A Scammer (s) and specifically first to "Stop-Scammers" who owns/runs this very FORUM/site and are well aware of what is going on...

Otherwise, trying to expect seeing the whole thing as a ?Legit court case? might take two and a half centuries...With no immediate effect...If not any at all...???
I here refer to things going on against "anastasiweb and affiliates" that deserves the same treatment...

Hard Activism is very good and I do not really see what they could do against people reporting endlessly their SCAMMING COWS... AS SCAMMERS IN THEIR AGENCY CONTEXTS?!!! Helskar

helskar
01-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Yes it is true that they never "ask" for something but they do act in such way as to "emotionally lure" men into spending lots of money that goes right into the pockets of their PIMPS...I too wander how they still don't understand they might have a much more comfortable life style & perspective with a real gentle, caring husband...This leads to think of their activity being rewarded in some forms...??? + As I put it before, it does take enourmous amount of time to write letters, even partly COPY/PASTE...I think this can be a full time job only for most of them...

I do not see why not reporting: that TART & THE OTHERS? with all of her/their pics as A Scammer (s) and specifically first to "Stop-Scammers" who owns/runs this very FORUM/site and are well aware of what is going on...

Otherwise, trying to expect seeing the whole thing as a ?Legit court case? might take two and a half centuries...With no immediate effect...If not any at all...???
I here refer to things going on against "anastaziweb and affiliates" that deserves the same treatment...

Hard Activism is very good and I do not really see what they could do against people reporting endlessly their SCAMMING COWS... AS SCAMMERS IN THEIR AGENCY CONTEXTS?!!!

helskar
01-14-2007, 05:38 PM
Does anybody actually knows the charged cost for time spent in Local "Internet of Cafe" in Ukraine...??? Into US$ Many thank
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Thank-you helskar!!!

:)

Black Holes and Revelations....

helskar
01-14-2007, 06:04 PM
So it is still expensive to spend time writing to us from such places, by Ukrainian standards...It does explain some of the success our "Friends" meet with their tricky system & easy victims...!!!


quote:Originally posted by helskar

Does anybody actually knows the charged cost for time spent in Local "Internet of Cafe" in Ukraine...??? Into US$ Many thank
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Thank-you helskar!!!

:)

Black Holes and Revelations....



It cost me 3#1043;#1056;#1053; fro 1/2 and hour for i think at an exchange rate of 5.5 thats around 0.50 USD......

and to put that in real terms a 2LT bottle of Coke cost around 5.5 Hyrvaina....... so fro an hour your tsalking about the same as a big bottle of coke!


Black Holes and Revelations....
[/quote]

dublindevil
01-14-2007, 06:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by helskar

I do not see why not reporting: that TART & THE OTHERS? with all of her/their pics as A Scammer (s) and specifically first to "Stop-Scammers" who owns/runs this very FORUM/site and are well aware of what is going on...

Otherwise, trying to expect seeing the whole thing as a ?Legit court case? might take two and a half centuries...With no immediate effect...If not any at all...???
I here refer to things going on against "anastasiweb and affiliates" that deserves the same treatment...

Hard Activism is very good and I do not really see what they could do against people reporting endlessly their SCAMMING COWS... AS SCAMMERS IN THEIR AGENCY CONTEXTS?!!! Helskar


Sorry Helskar, I could not really understand what you were saying. ?
Quote)I do not see why not reporting: that TART & THE OTHERS? with all of her/their pics as A Scammer (s) and specifically first to "Stop-Scammers" who owns/runs this very FORUM/site and are well aware of what is going on..(unquote)
and this (quote)Hard Activism is very good and I do not really see what they could do against people reporting endlessly their SCAMMING COWS... AS SCAMMERS IN THEIR AGENCY CONTEXTS?!!! (unquote)
Could you please re-explain for an old dumb geezer like me. ? :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

imported_uljoh
01-14-2007, 06:55 PM
I was in Kiev this late summer. Near the "Independent Square" at an hotel called "Ukraine Hotel".
I didnt come there for the purpose writing letters on Internet Cafe`s, but as far as I noticed, it was extremely cheap.
Not even worth mentioning.

uljoh

howard darby
01-14-2007, 07:40 PM
well guys i just went back in history file of elena and brought up the first letter she sent to me on nov 9 2005 and word for word it is the exact same letter --man have i been snookered --i havve sent her 187 letters up until the site went down--i did buy the all you write special so i saved some(whoopee) i sent her a nasty letter aftger learning about her from this forum but of course no reply as yet and i dont expect one.

what about julie m 3801

hdarby

michaelhile
01-14-2007, 07:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by helskar

Does anybody actually knows the charged cost for time spent in Local "Internet of Cafe" in Ukraine...??? Into US$ Many thank
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Thank-you helskar!!!

:)

Black Holes and Revelations....


I do not know where in Ukraine you are going but I found in Odessa quite a few restaurants and bars that had wi-fi. My laptops has a builtin wireless connection and had no problem getting connected. The few internet cafes found seemed expensive $5US per hour.
michaelhile

hairbag30
01-14-2007, 08:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by wwsmith

Hi all, new to the forum so forgive any errors.

hairbag30, I have also been exchanging mail with Anna T #7586. We've been in contact since sometime in August 2006. I've also been talking with Nadezhda A #1875 (Kharkov), who recently told me that I am the only one she is writing too, but yet she remains at the top of the top 100. Looks like I'm unlucky twice.

s-

Hey there wwwsmith! What a surprise that Anna T. started corresponding to you when I was planning to visit in August, I guess I can thank my job for not giving me the time off because we were short staffed in controolers! I have been writing to Anna since May 14th 2006 at CC and originally contacted her on another web site at the end of April! I am glad to see we are helping her through Med School and her trips to Fedosia and the Carpathian Mts. She is very good though, always answers my questions and thanks me the very next letter for the flowers or the fruit! Here is a copy of the last letter she sent:
From:Anna T. #7586
To:##### *. #****06
Date:09 January 2007 08:30:58

Subject: Hope to hear from you soon!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TRANSLATED FOR ANNA


Hello honey!!!!!


It it is me again, writing you and sending all my tenderness and my sweet thoughts to you!

Have you missed me?:)


What were you doing during the weekend?


As I have already told you last weekend was a very special one here in Russian and in Ukraine. We were celebrating the bigest religious holiday of the year - Christmas!


You know, yesterday I have been thinking a lot about one starnge fact: why do we celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January and not on the 25th of December? This is what I cannot really understand, because in other Christian Orthodox countries, like in Greece for example, they celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December.

Do you happen to know why we have such a difference?


Of course it does not really matter when to celebrate some holiday it is more important how to celebrate it!:) Our family celebration has been just a fascinating one. We made a delisious dinner and my sister's God parents shared a dinner with us. They brought many presents for my sister and even for me:) They are very nice people and I always enjpy communicating with them.


So we had a nice time in a family circle and after a dinner we went for a walk in the city centre. I have enjoyed this day so much!!!!!


On Sunday we went to Evpatoria with some friends of mine. The weather was not really good, it was very cloudy and windy but still we decided to go to the seaside. We thought that it will be easier to go to Evpatoria, it is about 40 minutes drive from Simferopol along a very nice and straight road. We went there by the car which was driving a friend of mine ( I think I have already told you about her). If you remember her father gave her a car as a Birthday present but she is still not really good at driving, that is why we chose to go to Evpatoria instead of Yalta or some other city on the Southern coast of the Crimea. The thing is that roads to the Southern coast are very meandering and can be difficult to drive even for experienced drivers.


So we prefered not to take a risk and went to Evepatoria. There were four of us, three girls and a boy from my University group. We had a lot of fun going to Evpatoria, we laughed all the way long.


The funniest thing was that when we went to Evpatoria she was driving very safely , with only 60km speed, but on our way back she felt more sure of herself and we were going 100km per hour:)


We have spent only a few hours in Evpatoria. We went to the seaside first, but it was very stormy and windy and so after a few minutes we decided to have a cup of coffee in the nearest bar. That was the end of our short excursion because when we were in the bar it started rainning outside and after spending about an hour drinking coffee we decided to go back to Simferopol.


We were afraid that it would be difficult to drive because of the rain, but when we came out of town it has suddenly stopped rainning and the road was dry.


I really enjoyed that trip to evpatoria, even though it was a short one we had a plenty of positive emotions and lots of funn!


Today I have a day off and I do not need to do anything. That is why I decided to go to the agency and to write this letter to you. I will probably just go for a walk around the city and maybe will meet some of my friend later. What about you? What are your plans for today?


That seems to be all for now! I miss you so much!!! I hope to hear from you soon!


Kisses,

Anna

I have found the last couple of letters more generic and now my name is not even mentioned! When I started to write to her at CC because she lost her friend to translate and I stupidly said; "That's FINE" and even commented that she was #9 in the top 100 at the end of May!
She is now #52 after dropping to between 21 and 27 for the last 4 months! I have e-mail credits left and will have a little fun! Maybe I will tell her that the other guy she is corresponding with is such a nice guy and better than me that she should only write to him! She will probably be scrambling to figure out who I could possible be talking about! I will sleep on it and make up my mind tomorrow!
As for Nadezhda (#1875) Kharkov I read her letter and never answered it if I can find where I copied it I send that to, she just seemed to fishy! Avoided her and got hooked by Anna! Her letter is gone but it was sent while I was on vacation in Oct. 2006. May she is only writing to you[B)], would not counton it though!
You were unlucky twice it looks like I am OH for 4, I just saw Julia (1275) Kharkov has joind the list as well!!
Good luk and if you want any more letters from Anna, just ask!
Hairbag30

hairbag30
01-14-2007, 08:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by Kevin

Just went trough my old email CC sends when you get a letter or have not responded to one for a while. I notice that I have gotten alot of their surnames included in the email they sent to me. A few that I will post # of girl that a few people write about on here. They are 1275, 1875, 1586, I have 36 of them in all plus the girl I have been writing to. I can post # of girl here or you can contact me if yo would like to know if I have your girl. You can email me if you don't want me to post it here. My email is SHEA@softhome.net

Thank for the Julia (#1275) post, even though she is not in the top 100 anymore she keeps in touch from her sick grandmothers home in a town 2 hrs out side Kharkov by calling CC now ual from a neighbors house! Sent me picture of her from the Crimea and at "work"! Left in August for up to 3 months to care for grandma! Maybe she was getting her visits from her many correspondents?[:o)]
Will send you an e-mail for the list to see if anymore turn up!
Thanks for the post!
hairbag30

hairbag30
01-14-2007, 08:40 PM
When I was over there a year and a half ago it was about 2 hvna to 5 hvna and hour depending on the cafe (at the current exchange rate about 40 cents US to $1.00 US) this could be slightly more now!


quote:Originally posted by helskar

Does anybody actually knows the charged cost for time spent in Local "Internet of Cafe" in Ukraine...??? Into US$ Many thank
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Thank-you helskar!!!

:)

Black Holes and Revelations....

dadepfan
01-14-2007, 09:56 PM
Hi everyone

Well, I have not posted recently because I've lost interest in UAL since Valentina left. She was the only one I was feeling serious about anyway. Support would not give me her personal information, and she has not emailed me yet, so I guess it really over! LOL! :(

So, if we are all here talking about CC/UAL, then we all probably were looking for something when we went to CC in the first place, right? Perhaps we should finish with our bashing of the past (except for law suits and gathering facts for them), and start thinking about some legitimate and more effective ways of getting what we were looking for in the first place (a partner).

I know the purpose of this site is to stop scammers, but perhaps helping each other get over being scamed and moving on to success would qualify? Any ideas?

Dave

David A Desautel

tot446
01-14-2007, 10:16 PM
Are there some one here communicated with Elena R? I notised some in the CC thread, but they only got very generic letters.

From Russia without Love
01-14-2007, 11:22 PM
David, I agree with you. We did join CC with a purpose in mind. We should not give up on that because of CC/UAL. Perhaps we can all find an honest site to continue the search.

Has anybody found such a site? If so, would you share with us this site. Does such a site exist?



BSS

newduke
01-14-2007, 11:36 PM
I think we all remember why we started writing gals at CC. The problem for me is I don't trust anyone now and wonder if most, if not all, "Agencies" scam to some degree. I even used anastasiaweb on and off for a year or so, and this agency has red flags all over it too, according to the anti-scam forums on the internet.

So, even if some agency is "honest", the women may be golddiggers, green card diggers, or just not serious period. I am about ready to give up my pipe dream, but I wish others of you the best of luck finding a REAL Ukrainian or Russian wife.

michaelhile
01-15-2007, 01:42 AM
Guys,
I haven't really posted in quite awhile. I check in every couple of days to check out the DRAMA, but thought it was finally time to say something. I hope I don't offend anyone.
Having started this journey almost 2 years ago, my first experience almost ended ended in disaster. I may have been out at least the cost of one plane ticket. After following some basic, common sense concepts, I was not too surprised to find out all that was going on with CC/UA. I started writing to Valenitina last August(and yes I fell right into the idea of a younger lady who seemed interested only in me, good for the ego, good for the pride) and within 2-3 letters was asked to pay for English Lesson. Big red flag!!!!then over the next few months I lost count of the flags.I only paid for 1-5 emails at a time. I only paid for pictures I asked for.
Thankfully I did not burn any bridges with a couple of Ladies I have been writing to In Odessa. After a couple of letters I was given phone numbers, physical address, pictures that taken naturally and not in an agency. And no extra charge for pictures I received or send!!!These ladys have real jobs and real lives. NO duplicate letters and they always answer any questions I have. they may write to other guys, but I do not know. I have had no reason to ask. Besides, I do not want to be accused of hypocrisy or double standards
I would suggest to any of you guys who are really serious about finding a Ukrainian bride is go there. Do not use an agency trip packages, book it yourself. Try to learn the language, customs and traditions. A true honest Ukrainian womman is steeped in tradtion. Church, family morals and ideals are almost genetic.Understand that till 1991 and independence most of the Ukraine was predominantly a matriarchal society. The women ran the show! For the past decade or so they have had to suffer a lot of abuse. Physical, psychological, sexual and spiritual. Alcoholism and drug addiction is almost epidemic. AND GET REAL GUYS. Although there are cases of some guys finding women 15,20,and even 25 years younger the success rates of staying together are miniscule.
Good luck to all of you. I will not give up on this journey. It is because of their traditions and moral fiber that I have chosen this way. As most of you know a lot of the women here in the US do not have a clue what family is really about. It is more about what kind of car you have, where you work, where you live and what kind of house, how much money, etc. etc. etc.
In todays age of instant gratification, the internet and all of us gullible, almost stupid, big ego guys, Who was it who said "THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE" Seems to me a lot of suckers ended up here and the previous pages and all 12 of the last forum.
michaelhile

dadepfan
01-15-2007, 03:30 AM
Hi Michael

The problem is that there is most likely a need in the Ukraine for a way that women can be introduced to men from other countries, and there is certainly a demand for such a service here as well.

A legitimate service could indeed make a decent profit, yet you think there are none? If you are right, that is truely sad.

What about Asian women, and services to meet them? Anyone know of a good one? My first wife was Japanese-American, and I've always had a soft spot for them as well. They also have a long tradition (if a somewhat sunserviant one).

Dave


quote:Originally posted by michaelhile

Guys,
I haven't really posted in quite awhile. I check in every couple of days to check out the DRAMA, but thought it was finally time to say something. I hope I don't offend anyone.
Having started this journey almost 2 years ago, my first experience almost ended ended in disaster. I may have been out at least the cost of one plane ticket. After following some basic, common sense concepts, I was not too surprised to find out all that was going on with CC/UA. I started writing to Valenitina last August(and yes I fell right into the idea of a younger lady who seemed interested only in me, good for the ego, good for the pride) and within 2-3 letters was asked to pay for English Lesson. Big red flag!!!!then over the next few months I lost count of the flags.I only paid for 1-5 emails at a time. I only paid for pictures I asked for.
Thankfully I did not burn any bridges with a couple of Ladies I have been writing to In Odessa. After a couple of letters I was given phone numbers, physical address, pictures that taken naturally and not in an agency. And no extra charge for pictures I received or send!!!These ladys have real jobs and real lives. NO duplicate letters and they always answer any questions I have. they may write to other guys, but I do not know. I have had no reason to ask. Besides, I do not want to be accused of hypocrisy or double standards
I would suggest to any of you guys who are really serious about finding a Ukrainian bride is go there. Do not use an agency trip packages, book it yourself. Try to learn the language, customs and traditions. A true honest Ukrainian womman is steeped in tradtion. Church, family morals and ideals are almost genetic.Understand that till 1991 and independence most of the Ukraine was predominantly a matriarchal society. The women ran the show! For the past decade or so they have had to suffer a lot of abuse. Physical, psychological, sexual and spiritual. Alcoholism and drug addiction is almost epidemic. AND GET REAL GUYS. Although there are cases of some guys finding women 15,20,and even 25 years younger the success rates of staying together are miniscule.
Good luck to all of you. I will not give up on this journey. It is because of their traditions and moral fiber that I have chosen this way. As most of you know a lot of the women here in the US do not have a clue what family is really about. It is more about what kind of car you have, where you work, where you live and what kind of house, how much money, etc. etc. etc.
In todays age of instant gratification, the internet and all of us gullible, almost stupid, big ego guys, Who was it who said "THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE" Seems to me a lot of suckers ended up here and the previous pages and all 12 of the last forum.
michaelhile


David A Desautel

wwsmith
01-15-2007, 04:13 AM
hairbag30, thanks for that. But wouldn't you know, I already have a copy of that letter, word for word, punctuation mark for punctuation mark. There is a silver lining for you as my copy was sent on &lt;09 January 2007 08:31:17&gt;, so it looks like you beat me by 19 seconds.

Our stories seem similar. She contacted me first on another site, when I responded, I got a message inviting me to write to her on CC as her friend who used to help with the translations has left. But her letters which used to be personal and answer all of my questions have lately become generic and almost never include my name. oh well. I already wrote her telling her not to expect any more letters from me (I still had a couple e-mail credits that I don?t expect to get a refund for.)

Here is her first message to me on CC:
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25 July 2006 13:15:45
Hope you still remember me and want to continue...:)

Hello, dear!
Here I am, do you remember me:)?
I would like to keep on our correspondence through this site as I have no possibility anymore to send you my letters myself- unfortunately I don't speak English well enough to correspond and my friend who used to help me with the translation left :(
So, now I have to pay for the translation even of the shortest letter and at the moment I cannot afford it.
If you would like we could send each other letters through Confidential Connections as all the services are free for me here and they will be translating my letters to you for free.
What do you think?
Reply to me please, I would like us to go on in our communication.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bye, yours, Anna
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michaelhile
01-15-2007, 04:24 AM
I think you misunderstood Dave.
Even though the agency I used in Odessa is on the gray list I have had no complaints and have been impressed with the professionalism. About the only way this agency makes any money is with the translations. And when I was there and used one of their translators it was less expensive than the one my hotel recommended.This trip I will forego the use of a translator. I have been studying for over a year now and feel confident with the Russian Language.
Anyway there are some legit sites where you can get personal information from the ladys. The rest will be up to you. I still can not emphasise enough to still use caution and common sense. I would think the smaller agencies with fewer ladies would be the best bet.

Warre
01-15-2007, 04:39 AM
Last summer I paid 9 grivnas per hour in an internet cafe in Kirovograd. And I can assure that there were very few people who could afford to stay longer than half an hour.
Let's get real! Agencies are meant to make money in the first place. I think it's better to meet girls without the help of any agency. Last time I did it this way and it helped me a lot in knowing about these girls' purposes, opinions, etc... And yes, there are some gold diggers or girls who just want to go to restaurants. To avoid such type of girls it is better to go to smaller cities. Ukrainian girls are proud of their country (even now with the political difficulties) and are not eager to leave their country. In the east however some of them are very Russia-minded. Many girls I met have a strong will and are not as many agencies describe them (submissive).
Nevertheless, they are still interesting to me.

warpnacell
01-15-2007, 05:10 AM
Ok, I hope i do this right. I have been going back and saving all the letters from Daria p. that i have since the beginning. Its funny going over these things what a person can find when he starts looking for it. I got three of the same letters word for word from daria and the only difference is the time. On another set of letters i got, it starts of personal, then on the third line continuing all the way to the end its word for word again from a previous letter i got from her. These letters are from a year ago. I am going to paste them here and hopefully i do this right.

From:
To:
Date:

Subject:


Daria P. #4016
xxxxxx
14 February 2006 03:00:55

Happy Valentine Day!


Dear xxxx!

Thank you fo ryour warm and tender words and your compliments!!! I wish you could feel my warmth to you too. ;)) though we are far from each other - I feel your presence reading you. ;)) do you feel love this day? Sometimes we close our eyes and just listen to the echoes of our hearts. We all fall in love and there are times when we love so much that we lose ourselves in our own emotions. More often than not, we wonder why there is love that grows and there is love that grows cold. We would start to search for answers and try to find where love has gone wrong. But in the end, we find ourselves where we started for we cannot question love when it has its own reason. Love will always be as it always has been silent, mysterious and deeply profound.

Many of us believe that love is forever, that love never dies only to be disillusioned in the end when we find ourselves empty and longing. We mistakenly look at love as a need to be fulfilled. But it is only a gift given to us. We shouldn?t hold it in our hands for we may never find the strength to let it go when it decided to leave. We should only embrace its warmth and glow while it last and then freely open our arms when it?s time to say goodbye.

We fall in love with someone; we don?t want that feeling to end for it is everything we want it to be. We pray that love will stay and grow in our hearts. But if it doesn?t, then we should never let ourselves taken by it. I wish you to have love which will bring you to the seventh heaven from happiness. ;))))))))) Give love!!! Happy Valentine?s Day! Send you my warm Valentine kiss! ;)

Sincerely yours, Valentine (oh sorry, Daria ;)

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From:
To:
Date:

Subject:


Daria P. #4016
xxxxxx
14 February 2006 01:56:51

Re: Re: Happy St. Valentines day!


Dear, xxxx!

Sometimes we close our eyes and just listen to the echoes of our hearts. We all fall in love and there are times when we love so much that we lose ourselves in our own emotions. More often than not, we wonder why there is love that grows and there is love that grows cold. We would start to search for answers and try to find where love has gone wrong. But in the end, we find ourselves where we started for we cannot question love when it has its own reason. Love will always be as it always has been silent, mysterious and deeply profound.

Many of us believe that love is forever, that love never dies only to be disillusioned in the end when we find ourselves empty and longing. We mistakenly look at love as a need to be fulfilled. But it is only a gift given to us. We shouldn?t hold it in our hands for we may never find the strength to let it go when it decided to leave. We should only embrace its warmth and glow while it last and then freely open our arms when it?s time to say goodbye.

We fall in love with someone; we don?t want that feeling to end for it is everything we want it to be. We pray that love will stay and grow in our hearts. But if it doesn?t, then we should never let ourselves taken by it. I wish you to have love which will bring you to the seventh heaven from happiness. ;))))))))) Give love!!! Happy Valentine?s Day!

Sincerely yours, Valentine (oh sorry, Daria ;)
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Like i said notice how it go's word for word starting on the third line. But wait theres more!!
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From:
To:
Date:

Subject:


Daria P. #4016
xxxxx
13 February 2006 11:50:57

Happy St. Valentines day!


Dear, xxxx!

I wish you a Happy Valentine's Day, as well as happiness during every other day this year. My wish for you is one of my favorite sayings:

"Happiness is a journey, not a destination.

So work like you don't need money,

Love like you've never been hurt,

And, dance like no one's watching!" )) In this Valentine's Day I just have to say that I wish you the best, I think that love is a great feeling, because "all you need is love" and all that you have to do is "Let love rule". I really wish you a fantastic day, wishing you real love in your life, because you have much to give. You are a wonderful person and your smile can make a difference to certain people and your words may lighten even it just words written on a piece of paper without voices. )) Happy Valentine's day!!! ))))))

With best wishes, Daria
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From:
To:
Date:

Subject:


Daria P. #4016
xxxxxxx
13 February 2006 12:21:27

Happy St. Valentines day!


Dear, xxxx!

I wish you a Happy Valentine's Day, as well as happiness during every other day this year. My wish for you is one of my favorite sayings:

"Happiness is a journey, not a destination.

So work like you don't need money,

Love like you've never been hurt,

And, dance like no one's watching!" )) In this Valentine's Day I just have to say that I wish you the best, I think that love is a great feeling, because "all you need is love" and all that you have to do is "Let love rule". I really wish you a fantastic day, wishing you real love in your life, because you have much to give. You are a wonderful person and your smile can make a difference to certain people and your words may lighten even it just words written on a piece of paper without voices. )) Happy Valentine's day!!! ))))))

With best wishes, Daria
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There is one more just like this also and it has a different time on it also. I have more like this im finding where its all repeats, and copy and pasted. I suggest that we all go back in time and look for letters that have been copied and pasted. It makes you sick thinking you paid 7 dollars for a letter that they only write 3 sentences on doesnt it. Sorry for taking up so much space i just wanted to post this and get it off my chest. Hope it helps.

One more thing has anyone noticed how many of the women are no longer with the site. It seems everytime i go in and continue to save these letters im finding more and more red lines saying this girl is no longer with the site. They seem to be dropping like flys if you ask me.

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 08:31 AM
Quote.
Our stories seem similar. She contacted me first on another site, when I responded, I got a message inviting me to write to her on CC as her friend who used to help with the translations has left.
unquote
Anna ia a 'recruiter' for CC. ! I met her a long time ago and then suddenly got invited by her to join CC. !



<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Fox
01-15-2007, 11:17 AM
Salut guys! I was reading this forum for a couple of days and I couldn't resist to register and add some comments.

I'm married now to Ukrainian lady but it didn't stop me to come to Ukraine to visit more:) I had a great time there and if I have another opportunity I'll go there again! All of you talk here how afful ladies here are. But they cannot check you too! They don't know how much ladies are you correspond with. So, rights are equal :)

You are angry with this agency but I'm sure all of you continue write these ladies letters telling them how much do you love them. :D

I understand some of you, but I don't understand Neoflight. Hey, you! You are 23! What are you doing here? Have you decided to loose your virgin in Ukraine?:D And what the f*** do you want? Seems like you enjoyed your trip? But now you try to find all the bad things. Life is a bad thing for itself and everything can be bad if you want it to be so. But I see you like cartoons Pokemon, so it would be better for you to leave this site and play more! What the hell you saw in this life? I bet nothing! And now you are here to show everybody you are cool! Well, the same as others... All of you sit here because you are angry and because you cannot do anything! All you can do just to sit here and to complain on your poor life:D
Seems like you have nothing to do. Do you know why so many men don't join you? Because they agree with me! I know that 'cause I have a lot of friends who laugh with me when we read it! So, thank you guys for new show! it is very interesting to make fun of you!:D

GMAN
01-15-2007, 11:21 AM
Look at the answer i received why different guys receive the same letter:Thank you for e-mailing us and for using our services.


The lady always choose herself whom to write and what to write. There are some information about the lady that remains the same for some time or can not be changed like for example a color of her eyes, presence of brothers or sisters, place of living, habits etc. And I guess every person has some dreams, someone has one dream and some has a lot of dreams? If the lady corresponds with not only one man (the same is with the man, he also can correspond with not only one lady), she writes about her habits, dreams and hopes and these can not be changed from one letter to another?. She writes letters to men and certainly she describes herself in a way she wants to and certainly letters to men can be similar to each other?. Dreams can not different in each letters. Also letters help to open the inner world, show hopes and fears, but only meeting in person can show if people are meant for each other. Therefore ladies as well as men correspond with not only one person, in order to make a right choice in life. Men also write the same letters to the ladies, because as I told you, some information remains the same. And if for example man receives a lot of letters from ladies, it will take a lot of time to write the same things to each lady (his hobbies, place of living, hopes and fears) and certainly the man will write one letter and describe all these information?.


If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us, we are always ready to help you!

We appreciate your membership!

Sincerely, UA ladies Support Team


gtearne

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 11:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by Fox

Salut guys! I was reading this forum for a couple of days and I couldn't resist to register and add some comments.

I'm married now to Ukrainian lady but it didn't stop me to come to Ukraine to visit more:) I had a great time there and if I have another opportunity I'll go there again! All of you talk here how afful ladies here are. But they cannot check you too! They don't know how much ladies are you correspond with. So, rights are equal :)

You are angry with this agency but I'm sure all of you continue write these ladies letters telling them how much do you love them. :D

I understand some of you, but I don't understand Neoflight. Hey, you! You are 23! What are you doing here? Have you decided to loose your virgin in Ukraine?:D And what the f*** do you want? Seems like you enjoyed your trip? But now you try to find all the bad things. Life is a bad thing for itself and everything can be bad if you want it to be so. But I see you like cartoons Pokemon, so it would be better for you to leave this site and play more! What the hell you saw in this life? I bet nothing! And now you are here to show everybody you are cool! Well, the same as others... All of you sit here because you are angry and because you cannot do anything! All you can do just to sit here and to complain on your poor life:D
Seems like you have nothing to do. Do you know why so many men don't join you? Because they agree with me! I know that 'cause I have a lot of friends who laugh with me when we read it! So, thank you guys for new show! it is very interesting to make fun of you!:D

That was a terrible posting. !
You are married, but you say your still going back to Ukraine for more girls. !! What kind of a marriage is that ??? [}:)]
You also attack 'neoflight' ! From his previous postings I don't see where he admits to marriage but still goes looking for girls in Ukraine. ? He seems more like a decent guy which cannot be said for you in your posting. !
You look to us like maybe a continental european or maybe even Ex: FSU ? Your spelling and grammar was much like a man from the FSU. ?
All the evidence on this site alone cannot be ignored. So many guys have had such bad experiences, and many of them have also been to Ukraine, but you try to dismiss them and dismiss their experiences. ? !! Your posting was only in 'general' terms. nothing specific, no evidence at all. ? Maybe CC sent you here to write that. Your posting looks somewhat like the gang in CC would write. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Fox
01-15-2007, 12:12 PM
Salut Dublin! I see Neoflight has a father here!:D I don't care what you write and what you think about me. Yes, I'm not a native speaker, but don't tell me your English is perfect! If you are so clever, maybe we'll check grammar here? 'Cause you think my grammar is similar to someone's. I don't like yours too, so what?

Of course, you can't know who am I, but I can't check you also. Who knows, maybe you are paid for writing all these bull****! Who can check you? Al we have is your word! So don't say that about me.

I live like I want to live and I do what I want to do! And you are not a mother for me to tell me what to do! But I can call myself a real man, 'cause if I have troubles I don't write it into forums in order to let everyone see what a fool am I. But I see you feel so good! What a cool think! To let everyone see what a fool you are!:D

Fox
01-15-2007, 12:28 PM
By the way, Dublin, you are so angree with ladies, but seems like this forum is your job. You are always here, always ready to answer. Maybe you just have nothing to do and nobody to speak with?:D

imported_admin
01-15-2007, 12:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by Fox

Of course, you can't know who am I, but I can't check you also. Who knows, maybe you are paid for writing all these bull****! Who can check you? Al we have is your word! So don't say that about me.

We can check :) Fox is from Ukraine...

Best regards,
Admin

Fox
01-15-2007, 12:46 PM
Really? Am I? Well, I may say a lot about you also! But how will you prove that? Prove me, that I'm from Ukraine! I would be really glad to know that I live in Ukraine. :D

imported_admin
01-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Fox last IP Address: 91.124.15.216

inetnum: 91.124.0.0 - 91.124.255.255
org: ORG-USTC1-RIPE
netname: UA-UKRTELECOM-20061006
descr: JSC "Ukrtelecom"
country: UA

Enough? With PeterUSA same story...

Best regards,
Admin

Fox
01-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Well, I want to tell you that there is a difference "in Ukraine" and "from Ukraine":D Don't you agree with that? I think I have told you my wife is from Ukraine.

Enough?:D

howard darby
01-15-2007, 01:04 PM
hey guys this is a letter i just received from elena in response to my letter accusing her of scaming , what do you think of this



THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear Howard!

First of all I want to say that I?ve received your letter and never a one line was deleted by translators from the Agency. Ad notam I study English and even now my knowledge is enough to translate the letter written by you on my own. Yes, it?s hard for me to write myself, that?s why I am writing this letter in Russian now and then I will give it to the translators from the Agency and will ask to translate each word of mine. If you are worried that they will chat me someway, I will ask them to print it out after translation and I will check if it was really translated properly.

Dear Howard, we have been corresponding since the beginning of November 2005, and it?s year 2007 now already, we have shared a lot of letters, despite this you haven?t found any free time to come and see me, and now you write to me and say that I correspond with other men and write them generic letters. I have put you and the men you have met on that forum into the list of people, who just entertain this way and just play with the girls who are really interested in creating the family and who are looking for happiness and their second half in this huge world. Same as me, you also correspond with somebody else, I also felt myself special and only for some time, but then I realized that this is all the game from your side and I am very disappointed.

Howard, I am not a teenage stupid girl, and I spend a lot of time near at computer on work, so after you had written to me, I have searched in Internet and found the forum you?ve written about. You know, I was just shocked by how you, men, discuss the ladies and send each other their private letters and pictures. Probably you have another culture in your country, but here such behavior of men is considered to be disgusting and unworthy.

I?ve read how some Jim from Iraq discusses me, you have mentioned him in letter. I consider he has no right at all to do that as he has corresponded with some other girls from the Agency and sent the same letters to us all. He did to the ladies the same and what was he waiting for???

I?ve read everything what Anthony Swedberg wrote about me, his nick is siberianhusky. By the way you can pass to him that I?ve written to him about the gift he has ordered, I have thanked him. But on the forum he wrote that I didn?t even mention that gift!

Dear Howard, concerning my surgery, you mistake here again. Firstly, it was in March, and it was a great shock for me, I recovered for a long time afterwards, and I thought you treated that with understanding and you felt for me, but it appears that you even don?t believe that I really wrote the truth.

Also I want to disappoint you and all men on forum who think that I earn for living by corresponding with men. By the agency rules I can?t ask for money from men, I can?t exchange contact information before our first meeting, so I have no possibility to get money from men.

Dear Howard. I have grown up and I was behaved by my parents as a worthy lady and I am really sure that I will meet a man who will make me happy and with whom we will be happy to gether.

By the way, that letter you?ve been discussing on forum, that?s the letter I send to men whom I saw in the gallery and whom I want to learn better.

Howard, I have read your last comment stating that you?ve written me a letter and never got a reply, so here is my reply to you and my answer to all your accusations.

I hope you won?t be sorry that you believed those men and lost my friendship.

Good luck to you!

Lena

chasm01
01-15-2007, 01:19 PM
Hi guys

I have used a number of agencies over the past 2 years. last year I was going to visit a girl in Luhansk and set about making the arrangements. I used this website to look for accommodation.

The guy that runs it is called Alexander Cherednichenko. I give Alex the information about the girl I was going to see, he did a background check and told me she was a scammer. Alex said quite a lot of the scams are not only from agencies but from homes with an internet connection or cyber cafe's. He suggests that a visit is the only way to really find the woman of your dreams.

He knows of CC and UA only top well here is his comment.

"http://www.ualadys.com/ is the different name for Confidential Connections :))) The have a lot of names..."

Check him out as Alex is one of the good guys and very helpful, he really hates scammers. I plan to have a trip to Luhansk in summer and will be using Alex as my guide as to finding the woman of my dreams.

Good luck

hairbag30
01-15-2007, 02:23 PM
Hey there wwwsmith!
Your letter is word for word the letter I got to join her at CC!!
As a scammer she was good and I hope she is a better Doctor! I know now that I have at least paid for some of that education! I originally wrote toher at city of brides and have found her at fiance'.com as well! I will waste my e-mail credit and tell her that I am bowing out because I see you have found someone else! I was probably 19 secs ahead because she did it alphabetically! Maybe she will choke on a piece of fruit that I sent but that justice I believe will not happen!:( Oh well!


quote:Originally posted by wwsmith

hairbag30, thanks for that. But wouldn't you know, I already have a copy of that letter, word for word, punctuation mark for punctuation mark. There is a silver lining for you as my copy was sent on &lt;09 January 2007 08:31:17&gt;, so it looks like you beat me by 19 seconds.

Our stories seem similar. She contacted me first on another site, when I responded, I got a message inviting me to write to her on CC as her friend who used to help with the translations has left. But her letters which used to be personal and answer all of my questions have lately become generic and almost never include my name. oh well. I already wrote her telling her not to expect any more letters from me (I still had a couple e-mail credits that I don?t expect to get a refund for.)

Here is her first message to me on CC:
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25 July 2006 13:15:45
Hope you still remember me and want to continue...:)

Hello, dear!
Here I am, do you remember me:)?
I would like to keep on our correspondence through this site as I have no possibility anymore to send you my letters myself- unfortunately I don't speak English well enough to correspond and my friend who used to help me with the translation left :(
So, now I have to pay for the translation even of the shortest letter and at the moment I cannot afford it.
If you would like we could send each other letters through Confidential Connections as all the services are free for me here and they will be translating my letters to you for free.
What do you think?
Reply to me please, I would like us to go on in our communication.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bye, yours, Anna
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imported_uljoh
01-15-2007, 02:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by hairbag30

Here is her first message to me on CC:
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25 July 2006 13:15:45
Hope you still remember me and want to continue...:)

Hello, dear!
Here I am, do you remember me:)?
I would like to keep on our correspondence through this site as I have no possibility anymore to send you my letters myself- unfortunately I don't speak English well enough to correspond and my friend who used to help me with the translation left :(
So, now I have to pay for the translation even of the shortest letter and at the moment I cannot afford it.
If you would like we could send each other letters through Confidential Connections as all the services are free for me here and they will be translating my letters to you for free.
What do you think?
Reply to me please, I would like us to go on in our communication.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Bye, yours, Anna
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Hi again guys:
Exactly that letter, word for word, was sent to me in the end of September. From another lady on the Top100, though.
I wasnt a member on CC before that, and I didnt even know what she was talking about. Because we hadnt corresponded on any other site.

/ uljoh

Fox
01-15-2007, 03:09 PM
Neoflight, I don't agree with you at all! If I had never visited Ukraine I wouldn't have believe you! But as I have been here a lot of times I may say that you are wrong! And I'm sure you'll agree with me 'cause as I may see you liked your trip, didn't you?

You see, I really make fun of you 'cause I know much more about Ukraine than you can even imagine! My wife is great that's why I don't believe you at all. But a lot of people who read this site may believe you and lose their chances.

Jo Blo
01-15-2007, 03:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by michaelhile


quote:Originally posted by helskar

Does anybody actually knows the charged cost for time spent in Local "Internet of Cafe" in Ukraine...??? Into US$ Many thank
quote:Originally posted by neoflight

Thank-you helskar!!!

:)

Black Holes and Revelations....
Dear Micheal, I was in Sth America a few months ago and the cost of hiring a computer in BA at an internet cafe was 4 pesos per hour (abt USD$1.32) all inclusive, 10 pesos for 3 hours (abt USD $3.60) so USD $5.00 per hour is very expensive, as well the Argentine agency does exist, but its a joke, the girl existed complete with lies on her profile about her height and religion, she claimed to be 175cm tall, in fact is 166cm tall, claims to be a Christian but is a Jew like her boring despicable mother, i dont care whether she is 166cm or 176cm,the fact that she lied worries me, why lie ?? Her boring ugly mother went on for 3 hours asking questions about how to cheat & defraud the immigration system here in Australia, even offered up to USD$1,000 if i would ask the Prime Minister to sign her 'Permanent Residency' visa, because i have had some biz lunches with the PM and a few Federal Senators sometimes, after a few hours i walked out, but 1 very interesting thing is this , they are from Ukraine, Kharkov to be exact, interesting dont you think ?? Jo Blo

I do not know where in Ukraine you are going but I found in Odessa quite a few restaurants and bars that had wi-fi. My laptops has a builtin wireless connection and had no problem getting connected. The few internet cafes found seemed expensive $5US per hour.
michaelhile

tot446
01-15-2007, 03:40 PM
I was sitting an looking at the scammer on the main paige on stop-scammers.com and i saw a picture of a girl looking very much as Daria P. is on page 43 if you are looking at all woman. The name is Tola Carey Spencer

tot446
01-15-2007, 03:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by tot446

I was sitting an looking at the scammer on the main paige on stop-scammers.com and i saw a picture of a girl looking very much as Daria P. is on page 43 if you are looking at all woman. The name is Tola Carey Spencer


You can see her here http://stop-scammers.com/browseall.asp?page=43

tot446
01-15-2007, 03:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by neoflight


quote:Originally posted by tot446

I was sitting an looking at the scammer on the main paige on stop-scammers.com and i saw a picture of a girl looking very much as Daria P. is on page 43 if you are looking at all woman. The name is Tola Carey Spencer


tot from the description it looks like they have just hijacked the picture..... So i don't think it would be the same people as Daria!

It give the location as Nigeria.....

Black Holes and Revelations....


You can be right i hope, are she tracked to Nigeria? or was it what she told?

Ralf S.
01-15-2007, 04:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil



The pages are all screwed up and block off half the pictures. - including the nude ones :(



Just to interrupt the thread a moment... How did you get nudie photos? [:p] [:0] Just by asking nicely...? ;)

Nice one!

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

blondepeter
01-15-2007, 04:55 PM
Hey Fox! Can't keep quiet any longer. First of all you say that if you ever get the chance you will love to return to the Ukraine. Then they prove that you are writing from the Ukraine. Then you say you know much more about the Ukraine then any of us. Of course you do, you live there...duh?

blondepeter
01-15-2007, 05:10 PM
Okay, on to new business. Irina #7536 started to write to me from UA. Of course the typical letters full of love and emotion. I responded a couple of times and then stepped off. Of course she wrote again and missed me terribly. I bought her address on another dating site and found my own translator in Simferopol and sent him to her home. Of course she would have to ask the agency if it was okay to communicate outside the agency. You only get one guess as to there answer.
This morning I get a letter from the support line at UA. Irina has made them aware that I contacted her outside the agency and this is forbidden and by the way, she is not a scammer and is sincerely looking for her other half. (A question comes to mind....if you write to 26 other guys wouldn't that be 26 other halves?)Anyway, I asked them if it was also against the rules to send her $400 for English lessons outside the agency(no I never sent the money) and I told them I had been given the phone number and we were speaking today...had she also mentioned that. I went on to ask how could I say innapropriate things over the phone to her when she speaks almost no English. They haven't responded to that email yet.
So, she is real, does exist. She just has a tremendous amount of love to give and is spreading it around. I am curious to know by a show of hands how many other men are writing to her. By the way, I am only into these guys for about $63. Peter

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 05:33 PM
Things are warming up around here. ! :D Its good for the soul anyway. To hell with boring life, lets have a row or two. ! [:0]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 05:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Okay, on to new business. Irina #7536 started to write to me from UA. Of course the typical letters full of love and emotion. I responded a couple of times and then stepped off. Of course she wrote again and missed me terribly. I bought her address on another dating site and found my own translator in Simferopol and sent him to her home. Of course she would have to ask the agency if it was okay to communicate outside the agency. You only get one guess as to there answer.
This morning I get a letter from the support line at UA. Irina has made them aware that I contacted her outside the agency and this is forbidden and by the way, she is not a scammer and is sincerely looking for her other half. (A question comes to mind....if you write to 26 other guys wouldn't that be 26 other halves?)Anyway, I asked them if it was also against the rules to send her $400 for English lessons outside the agency(no I never sent the money) and I told them I had been given the phone number and we were speaking today...had she also mentioned that. I went on to ask how could I say innapropriate things over the phone to her when she speaks almost no English. They haven't responded to that email yet.
So, she is real, does exist. She just has a tremendous amount of love to give and is spreading it around. I am curious to know by a show of hands how many other men are writing to her. By the way, I am only into these guys for about $63. Peter


Haha. Brilliant BlondePeter. ! 'sock it to them' :D
I think I am amongst the 100's she was corresponding with. ! She told me last year, many months back, after I accused CC of a massive scam, "Oh but your wrong. I have now found the man of my dreams. He is wonderful. Thanks to CC. " !!!!!!!! [8D]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 05:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Hey Fox! Can't keep quiet any longer. First of all you say that if you ever get the chance you will love to return to the Ukraine. Then they prove that you are writing from the Ukraine. Then you say you know much more about the Ukraine then any of us. Of course you do, you live there...duh?


:D:D:D !!

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 05:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by Ralf S.


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil



The pages are all screwed up and block off half the pictures. - including the nude ones :(



Just to interrupt the thread a moment... How did you get nudie photos? [:p] [:0] Just by asking nicely...? ;)

Nice one!

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun


Haha.. I wondered why nobody took me up on that revelation I made. ! :D Good for you Ralf. ! Yes, I kept asking for more Pic's and she was 'very' happy to supply them. Each batch got a little more naughty, and of course I 'egged' her on. [:I] Finally she said one day "I have some 'real' naughty Pic's, better than any you have seen, would you like some" ? Haha. I said NO, of course not. You will corrupt my young mind. ! [8D] ;)
Incidently, they turned out to be just topless. :(
Anyone like a copy. ? [:p]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

howard darby
01-15-2007, 05:43 PM
IT APPEARS THAT UA HAS TAKEN THE TOP 100 LIST OFF I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BRING IT UP IT REVERTS TO THE GALLERY

blondepeter
01-15-2007, 05:49 PM
Haha. Brilliant BlondePeter. ! 'sock it to them'
I think I am amongst the 100's she was corresponding with. ! She told me last year, many months back, after I accused CC of a massive scam, "Oh but your wrong. I have now found the man of my dreams. He is wonderful. Thanks to CC. " !!!!!!!!

Hey Dublin.....don't know how to tell you this...but she was talking about me, because I am in fact wonderful. She very specifically told me she was warm for my form! Sorry to be the one to have to tell you that. On the bright side, they are signing up new women as we speak!

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 05:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Fox

By the way, Dublin, you are so angree with ladies, but seems like this forum is your job. You are always here, always ready to answer. Maybe you just have nothing to do and nobody to speak with?:D

Mr Fox. I will ignore all your other comments about me. !
I happen to know a few Ukrainian girls (outside of agencies, and not looking for any men) and I happen to admire them. ! I think they are terrific women (as most women from the FSU are too) and knock most Western women into the proverbial 'cocked hat'. !

As for my being here, and writing lots of posts, its a free world, and this is a free forum, and I happen to have researched the 'bride' business quite extensively, and written a book on it (In which I again praise the FSU ladies) and the only object of my being here is to try and help all the Guys here, and 'rubbish' CC and UALadys in the process. If my English and Grammer are a little better than the 'average' Joe then thats my luck. I don't push it or use it to gain advantage. We are all 'what we are' and I probably have more bad points than most Guys on here. ! Anyway, what I objected to in your post what your 'glib' attitude to being married to a Ukrainian women but still going looking for girls in Ukraine. ! In my book that stank. ! Thats all.
It was fairly obvious from your posting that you were from Eastern Europe, and on here any guy who starts writing and comes from the FSU is bound to carry a little suspicion. ? Incidently, maybe your aware
that "JSC "Ukrtelecom" is known as one of the capitols of Scammers in the Ukraine. It is only 2nd to 'Yoshka Ola' in Russia in the scamming league table. ! [?]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

imported_uljoh
01-15-2007, 07:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby

IT APPEARS THAT UA HAS TAKEN THE TOP 100 LIST OFF I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BRING IT UP IT REVERTS TO THE GALLERY


Yes, they surely have taken that list off. Smart guys on UA!
So now, even my sweet little nice lies talking lady isnt visible there any more : (

/ uljoh

tot446
01-15-2007, 07:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by Ralf S.


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil



The pages are all screwed up and block off half the pictures. - including the nude ones :(



Just to interrupt the thread a moment... How did you get nudie photos? [:p] [:0] Just by asking nicely...? ;)

Nice one!

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun


Haha.. I wondered why nobody took me up on that revelation I made. ! :D Good for you Ralf. ! Yes, I kept asking for more Pic's and she was 'very' happy to supply them. Each batch got a little more naughty, and of course I 'egged' her on. [:I] Finally she said one day "I have some 'real' naughty Pic's, better than any you have seen, would you like some" ? Haha. I said NO, of course not. You will corrupt my young mind. ! [8D] ;)
Incidently, they turned out to be just topless. :(
Anyone like a copy. ? [:p]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


Yes if you want to mail them to me, it would be nice to see them that way.

dadepfan
01-15-2007, 07:30 PM
You sound like a basher to me, here to disrupt the conversation. Why would you waste your time doing that?

Dave


quote:Originally posted by Fox

Really? Am I? Well, I may say a lot about you also! But how will you prove that? Prove me, that I'm from Ukraine! I would be really glad to know that I live in Ukraine. :D


David A Desautel

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 07:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Haha. Brilliant BlondePeter. ! 'sock it to them'
I think I am amongst the 100's she was corresponding with. ! She told me last year, many months back, after I accused CC of a massive scam, "Oh but your wrong. I have now found the man of my dreams. He is wonderful. Thanks to CC. " !!!!!!!!

Hey Dublin.....don't know how to tell you this...but she was talking about me, because I am in fact wonderful. She very specifically told me she was warm for my form! Sorry to be the one to have to tell you that. On the bright side, they are signing up new women as we speak!


Good luck. The better man always wins the 'fair lady'. :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dadepfan
01-15-2007, 07:39 PM
Curious BP - how do you get the address information. Was she participating on this other site? Can you post that site/

Dave


quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Okay, on to new business. Irina #7536 started to write to me from UA. Of course the typical letters full of love and emotion. I responded a couple of times and then stepped off. Of course she wrote again and missed me terribly. I bought her address on another dating site and found my own translator in Simferopol and sent him to her home. Of course she would have to ask the agency if it was okay to communicate outside the agency. You only get one guess as to there answer.
This morning I get a letter from the support line at UA. Irina has made them aware that I contacted her outside the agency and this is forbidden and by the way, she is not a scammer and is sincerely looking for her other half. (A question comes to mind....if you write to 26 other guys wouldn't that be 26 other halves?)Anyway, I asked them if it was also against the rules to send her $400 for English lessons outside the agency(no I never sent the money) and I told them I had been given the phone number and we were speaking today...had she also mentioned that. I went on to ask how could I say innapropriate things over the phone to her when she speaks almost no English. They haven't responded to that email yet.
So, she is real, does exist. She just has a tremendous amount of love to give and is spreading it around. I am curious to know by a show of hands how many other men are writing to her. By the way, I am only into these guys for about $63. Peter


David A Desautel

blondepeter
01-15-2007, 07:54 PM
Dadepfan

I found Irina #7536 on russian-women.net Her number there is ej6150. She's also on 3g-introductions.com and her ad number is the same. I bought her address from the first site for. I see several other women from UA there also so it would be easy to buy a few more address'. The first site shows how many times a woman's address has been purchased. I found one of their top girls had her address purchased over 700 times. Your basic cash cow. If I was her I would be demanding a percentage.

siberianhusky
01-15-2007, 08:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by chasm01

Hi guys

I have used a number of agencies over the past 2 years. last year I was going to visit a girl in Luhansk and set about making the arrangements. I used this website to look for accommodation.

The guy that runs it is called Alexander Cherednichenko. I give Alex the information about the girl I was going to see, he did a background check and told me she was a scammer. Alex said quite a lot of the scams are not only from agencies but from homes with an internet connection or cyber cafe's. He suggests that a visit is the only way to really find the woman of your dreams.

He knows of CC and UA only top well here is his comment.

"http://www.ualadys.com/ is the different name for Confidential Connections :))) The have a lot of names..."

Check him out as Alex is one of the good guys and very helpful, he really hates scammers. I plan to have a trip to Luhansk in summer and will be using Alex as my guide as to finding the woman of my dreams.

Good luck


Hey Chas, how do I get a hold of this guy Alex? Can you please give me more info, I would like to check the backgrounds of a certain lady. Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

Prometheus
01-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Those are the same sites Fox's wife are on, if I recall correctly. She said all Ukrainian men have small dicks.


quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Dadepfan

I found Irina #7536 on russian-women.net Her number there is ej6150. She's also on 3g-introductions.com and her ad number is the same. I bought her address from the first site for. I see several other women from UA there also so it would be easy to buy a few more address'. The first site shows how many times a woman's address has been purchased. I found one of their top girls had her address purchased over 700 times. Your basic cash cow. If I was her I would be demanding a percentage.

howard darby
01-15-2007, 08:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky


quote:Originally posted by chasm01

Hi guys

I have used a number of agencies over the past 2 years. last year I was going to visit a girl in Luhansk and set about making the arrangements. I used this website to look for accommodation.

The guy that runs it is called Alexander Cherednichenko. I give Alex the information about the girl I was going to see, he did a background check and told me she was a scammer. Alex said quite a lot of the scams are not only from agencies but from homes with an internet connection or cyber cafe's. He suggests that a visit is the only way to really find the woman of your dreams.

He knows of CC and UA only top well here is his comment.

"http://www.ualadys.com/ is the different name for Confidential Connections :))) The have a lot of names..."

Check him out as Alex is one of the good guys and very helpful, he really hates scammers. I plan to have a trip to Luhansk in summer and will be using Alex as my guide as to finding the woman of my dreams.
HEY SIBERIAN YOU CAN FIND ALEX ON ALEXFRIENDS.COM
BY THE WAY ELENA SENT YOU A MESSAGE IN THE REPLY TO MY NASTY LETTER TO HER ITS POSTER ON PAGE 9 CHECK IT OUT
Good luck


Hey Chas, how do I get a hold of this guy Alex? Can you please give me more info, I would like to check the backgrounds of a certain lady. Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

howard darby
01-15-2007, 08:22 PM
SIBERIAN
READ A LETTER I JUST GOT FROM ELENA AFTER I SENT HER A NASTY LETTER
THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear Howard!

First of all I want to say that I?ve received your letter and never a one line was deleted by translators from the Agency. Ad notam I study English and even now my knowledge is enough to translate the letter written by you on my own. Yes, it?s hard for me to write myself, that?s why I am writing this letter in Russian now and then I will give it to the translators from the Agency and will ask to translate each word of mine. If you are worried that they will chat me someway, I will ask them to print it out after translation and I will check if it was really translated properly.

Dear Howard, we have been corresponding since the beginning of November 2005, and it?s year 2007 now already, we have shared a lot of letters, despite this you haven?t found any free time to come and see me, and now you write to me and say that I correspond with other men and write them generic letters. I have put you and the men you have met on that forum into the list of people, who just entertain this way and just play with the girls who are really interested in creating the family and who are looking for happiness and their second half in this huge world. Same as me, you also correspond with somebody else, I also felt myself special and only for some time, but then I realized that this is all the game from your side and I am very disappointed.

Howard, I am not a teenage stupid girl, and I spend a lot of time near at computer on work, so after you had written to me, I have searched in Internet and found the forum you?ve written about. You know, I was just shocked by how you, men, discuss the ladies and send each other their private letters and pictures. Probably you have another culture in your country, but here such behavior of men is considered to be disgusting and unworthy.

I?ve read how some Jim from Iraq discusses me, you have mentioned him in letter. I consider he has no right at all to do that as he has corresponded with some other girls from the Agency and sent the same letters to us all. He did to the ladies the same and what was he waiting for???

I?ve read everything what Anthony Swedberg wrote about me, his nick is siberianhusky. By the way you can pass to him that I?ve written to him about the gift he has ordered, I have thanked him. But on the forum he wrote that I didn?t even mention that gift!

Dear Howard, concerning my surgery, you mistake here again. Firstly, it was in March, and it was a great shock for me, I recovered for a long time afterwards, and I thought you treated that with understanding and you felt for me, but it appears that you even don?t believe that I really wrote the truth.

Also I want to disappoint you and all men on forum who think that I earn for living by corresponding with men. By the agency rules I can?t ask for money from men, I can?t exchange contact information before our first meeting, so I have no possibility to get money from men.

Dear Howard. I have grown up and I was behaved by my parents as a worthy lady and I am really sure that I will meet a man who will make me happy and with whom we will be happy to gether.

By the way, that letter you?ve been discussing on forum, that?s the letter I send to men whom I saw in the gallery and whom I want to learn better.

Howard, I have read your last comment stating that you?ve written me a letter and never got a reply, so here is my reply to you and my answer to all your accusations.

I hope you won?t be sorry that you believed those men and lost my friendship.

Good luck to you!

Lena

Prometheus
01-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Just saw this in the old thread and it was too good not to repost here. Looks like Fox has a friend named PeterUSA, if they are not the same guy... :):


quote:Originally posted by PeterUSA

Hello to eweryone!
Well i was read alot of interesting storys about CC UAladys.
Im the member of CC more than 2 years, last time i was in Simferopol branch.
And i can tell you that its a great branch with a smart manager he was helps me alot.
I was correspondence with 4 ladys from Simferopol they are yopung and pretty. Now im waitinf that one of them will come to USA, and im really happy about that.
Guys maybe the problem is that you are all dont know what you need when you came to CC branches and you are became angry beacouse of that.
Yes the prices on CC a little bit expensive BUt the services is wery good and quality is wery good.
I know one thing after my trip to Somferopol branch that for the manager of Simferopol its wery serious and he will do all what he can to help you guys.
I was call to him at 1am and he allways answer to me and talk to me.
By the way i was meet with all ladys from my list and they all know about corespondence and about ewerything what i was send them.In our coresppondence was alot of question and i was ask them in real and all ladys was answering me the same like in letters, and we was without translators, so nobody can help them.
I was suing before alot of agency and i was loose alot of money, I think CC is one of the best.
If anyone have a questions i will be happy to answer.
Im sorry that im copying this massage againg, just dont know how to use this site:(

Originally posted by admin

As for PeterUSA

Post made from an Ukrainian IP address. Manager of Simferopol branch promotes CC services in Simferopol... Bad...;)

Best regards,
Admin

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 09:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Just saw this in the old thread and it was too good not to repost here. Looks like Fox has a friend named PeterUSA, if they are not the same guy... :):


quote:Originally posted by PeterUSA

Hello to eweryone!
Well i was read alot of interesting storys about CC UAladys.
Im the member of CC more than 2 years, last time i was in Simferopol branch.
And i can tell you that its a great branch with a smart manager he was helps me alot.
I was correspondence with 4 ladys from Simferopol they are yopung and pretty. Now im waitinf that one of them will come to USA, and im really happy about that.
Guys maybe the problem is that you are all dont know what you need when you came to CC branches and you are became angry beacouse of that.
Yes the prices on CC a little bit expensive BUt the services is wery good and quality is wery good.
I know one thing after my trip to Somferopol branch that for the manager of Simferopol its wery serious and he will do all what he can to help you guys.
I was call to him at 1am and he allways answer to me and talk to me.
By the way i was meet with all ladys from my list and they all know about corespondence and about ewerything what i was send them.In our coresppondence was alot of question and i was ask them in real and all ladys was answering me the same like in letters, and we was without translators, so nobody can help them.
I was suing before alot of agency and i was loose alot of money, I think CC is one of the best.
If anyone have a questions i will be happy to answer.
Im sorry that im copying this massage againg, just dont know how to use this site:(

Originally posted by admin

As for PeterUSA

Post made from an Ukrainian IP address. Manager of Simferopol branch promotes CC services in Simferopol... Bad...;)

Best regards,
Admin




Well spotted. ! ;)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 09:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

Dadepfan

I found Irina #7536 on russian-women.net Her number there is ej6150. She's also on 3g-introductions.com and her ad number is the same. I bought her address from the first site for. I see several other women from UA there also so it would be easy to buy a few more address'. The first site shows how many times a woman's address has been purchased. I found one of their top girls had her address purchased over 700 times. Your basic cash cow. If I was her I would be demanding a percentage.

O.M.G. 700 times. ! What on earth could a girl do with 700 men writing to her. ?? She would have to work 24/7 x 52 just writing letters. ! What was her ID number. ? worth a look if she is 'that' good. ! :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-15-2007, 09:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Those are the same sites Fox's wife are on, if I recall correctly. She said all Ukrainian men have small dicks.

[quote]Originally posted by blondepeter

Dadepfan



I have not stopped laughing since I read your words. !! [:p]
I am pleased to note the 'humour' is now flowing, after all the angry upsets when we started. !
:D

blondepeter
01-15-2007, 10:02 PM
O.M.G. 700 times. ! What on earth could a girl do with 700 men writing to her. ?? She would have to work 24/7 x 52 just writing letters. ! What was her ID number. ? worth a look if she is 'that' good. !

Dublin It really wouldn't be a lot of work, only one letter a day:) I'll try to find her, I just came upon her by accident using there search engine. There are lots of chicks on there around two hundred hits. Really wouldn't be hard to stand out among 200 guys would it.

siberianhusky
01-16-2007, 04:00 AM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby

SIBERIAN
READ A LETTER I JUST GOT FROM ELENA AFTER I SENT HER A NASTY LETTER
THIS LETTER WAS TRANSLATED FOR ELENA

Hello dear Howard!

First of all I want to say that I?ve received your letter and never a one line was deleted by translators from the Agency. Ad notam I study English and even now my knowledge is enough to translate the letter written by you on my own. Yes, it?s hard for me to write myself, that?s why I am writing this letter in Russian now and then I will give it to the translators from the Agency and will ask to translate each word of mine. If you are worried that they will chat me someway, I will ask them to print it out after translation and I will check if it was really translated properly.

Dear Howard, we have been corresponding since the beginning of November 2005, and it?s year 2007 now already, we have shared a lot of letters, despite this you haven?t found any free time to come and see me, and now you write to me and say that I correspond with other men and write them generic letters. I have put you and the men you have met on that forum into the list of people, who just entertain this way and just play with the girls who are really interested in creating the family and who are looking for happiness and their second half in this huge world. Same as me, you also correspond with somebody else, I also felt myself special and only for some time, but then I realized that this is all the game from your side and I am very disappointed.

Howard, I am not a teenage stupid girl, and I spend a lot of time near at computer on work, so after you had written to me, I have searched in Internet and found the forum you?ve written about. You know, I was just shocked by how you, men, discuss the ladies and send each other their private letters and pictures. Probably you have another culture in your country, but here such behavior of men is considered to be disgusting and unworthy.

I?ve read how some Jim from Iraq discusses me, you have mentioned him in letter. I consider he has no right at all to do that as he has corresponded with some other girls from the Agency and sent the same letters to us all. He did to the ladies the same and what was he waiting for???

I?ve read everything what Anthony Swedberg wrote about me, his nick is siberianhusky. By the way you can pass to him that I?ve written to him about the gift he has ordered, I have thanked him. But on the forum he wrote that I didn?t even mention that gift!

Dear Howard, concerning my surgery, you mistake here again. Firstly, it was in March, and it was a great shock for me, I recovered for a long time afterwards, and I thought you treated that with understanding and you felt for me, but it appears that you even don?t believe that I really wrote the truth.

Also I want to disappoint you and all men on forum who think that I earn for living by corresponding with men. By the agency rules I can?t ask for money from men, I can?t exchange contact information before our first meeting, so I have no possibility to get money from men.

Dear Howard. I have grown up and I was behaved by my parents as a worthy lady and I am really sure that I will meet a man who will make me happy and with whom we will be happy to gether.

By the way, that letter you?ve been discussing on forum, that?s the letter I send to men whom I saw in the gallery and whom I want to learn better.

Howard, I have read your last comment stating that you?ve written me a letter and never got a reply, so here is my reply to you and my answer to all your accusations.

I hope you won?t be sorry that you believed those men and lost my friendship.

Good luck to you!

Lena




Hey howard,

I would like for you to send me a copy of this letter if you can ASAP please to lexiematsi@yahoo.com. I would greatly appreciate this, thanks.

By the way I had to send a letter to the support in order for Elena to actually recognize that she received flowers from me so even if she or her little managers/translators read this it will eventually switch the light on in their heads that they made a mistake and are trying to follow it up with a thank you note so they don't look bad. How can you not remember beautiful bright Lillies? Boggles the mind! All in all it went this way, I sent the flowers, then company crashed their original site to make a new one, four days after they changed I received a letter from Elena but with no thank you for any flowers, then I sent a support letter informing them about a picture of her receiving my gift I also added that there was no thank you from her about my gift, then two days after that I finally was sent a thank you letter, well to me that is a company trying to make up for their mistake and trying to cover their a** because they screwed up.

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

GMAN
01-16-2007, 06:21 AM
Elenas models seems legit they charge $8 for unlimited emails with one lady not $75 for one month like UAFLADYS also a lot of ladies i showed an interest in replied they were not interested not like UAFLadys where the girls always write back .Also the most popular ladies seem to hook up with somebody and leave not like our ex top 100 who are there for years i see the list is still down i will write and ask wheres the list.I am a bit demotivated though really thought i found my other half at UaflADYS.

gtearne

Ralf S.
01-16-2007, 09:05 AM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

Elenas models seems legit they charge $8 for unlimited emails with one lady not $75 for one month like UAFLADYS also a lot of ladies i showed an interest in replied they were not interested not like UAFLadys where the girls always write back .Also the most popular ladies seem to hook up with somebody and leave not like our ex top 100 who are there for years i see the list is still down i will write and ask wheres the list.I am a bit demotivated though really thought i found my other half at UaflADYS.

gtearne


That occurred to me too. I've been using CC/UAL on and off over such a long period that I have a season-ticket! In all that time there's only 1 girl I know of who left the agency.

That seems at odds with a successful agency. You'd think they'd lose SOME to marriage or even boyfriends (local or foreign) in all that time. And as has been noted elsewhere.. the "latest marriages" seem to be 4 years old. [:0]

Ralf S.

No bullets for Chaingun

howard darby
01-16-2007, 10:49 AM
RALF;
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF GIRLS THAT I WAS WRITING TO TELL ME THEY HAD FOUND A GUY AND WERE QUITING CC. ONE CAME BACK AFTER 5 MONTHS AND CONTACTED ME AGAIN TO SEE IF I WAS STILL INTERESTED SHE TOLD ME SHE MADE A BIG MISTAKE IN CHOOSING THE OTHER GUY. I WILL FIND 0UT IN APRIL WHEN I GO TO POLTAVA.
ANYONE WITH ANY IDEAS OF WHERE TO STAY
THANKS
HOWARD

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 11:20 AM
Seems like things are happening on UAL. ! :D
I received a letter today from my longtime girl, in response to mine in which I roasted CC and UAL and gave her the URL's of this site, and CC.NET. For the very 'first' time EVER a girl replied back and actually quoted the URL's I had sent her, and repeated words of mine to show that she received everything. !![:0]
She even said she had visited CC.NET and a friend read it all for her. ! She could not apprantly log on to this site as it would not load. ?? :( Anyway, as usual, she refuted my claims, and said that what I wrote about CC was already in LOCAL MAGAZINES and could be read by the girls. ???????????????????? !!!!!!!!!!! [:0]
That kind of reply suggests that things are happening and UAL are now actually showing the girls every word we write. I have written such things many times before, to other girls, but never received any acknowledgement or even that they knew I had written about CC.
Another thing that has happened is the sudden appearance of three 'photo credits'. ! I don't know why they gave me those as they had already deleted all the pics in the folder that I had not paid for, so where I am supposed to use the credit. ??
Lastly, one of the members has expressed concern about his CC (credit card) details being at risk with UAL. It is unlikely to be a risk but it might be worth writing to 'support' and asking for confirmation of its security. I note that the payments are usually handled by CCUSA . ! surely this means "confidential Connections USA" ? In this case there might be a risk. ? Does anyone know about CCUSA. ? Are they a proper legit CCard transaction company. ?
I have continued to post that daily letter on the 'support' page, although no reply has yet been received. I hope all you other Guys are also still sending it ? :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 12:01 PM
---Hello Dublin !! Sorry i took a day longer mate but here are a few names to start on , the Accounts manager at CC is Sergey Syadro, his assistant is Sergei Shlotky, now here are the names of some of the girls, Irina S #7536 from Simferopol her last name is Shobolova, 7046 Ludmila Grebenuk from Zaporozhye, , 6098 Ruslana Nesteruk from Lutsk , 4086 Kseniya Lagun from Zhitomir, 3903 is Yana Kaliszna from Poltava, i hope these can help find out more about this , beware of Valyusha B 4287 she is a real manipulator, i can tell by her letters,i hope to have a few more names on Monday / Tuesday , until them take care,
Jo Blo.----------

Any more available yet. ? How about No: 7016. ?
Where are you getting them all from ? Is it secret. ? :)

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 12:11 PM
I have been thinking lately about starting our own 'bride' site. ?
One cheaper opportunity would be to add a page to CC.NET or UAL.NET :D
All the traffic going to those two could then avail of the names of girls on the other pages. ?
We could of course start a completely new site. What does everyone think about it. ? I have 2 or 3 names of genuine Ukrainian girls who might agree to go on it for starters. ?
Depending on the costs it could be a FOC site. ? Or at the least just a small contibution for unlimited access ?

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

helskar
01-16-2007, 12:18 PM
IF ANYONE INTERESTED IN COMMUNICATING FOR FREE WITH MANIPULATING BIRD#4287 PLEASE DROP ME A LINE
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

---Hello Dublin !! Sorry i took a day longer mate but here are a few names to start on , the Accounts manager at CC is Sergey Syadro, his assistant is Sergei Shlotky, now here are the names of some of the girls, Irina S #7536 from Simferopol her last name is Shobolova, 7046 Ludmila Grebenuk from Zaporozhye, , 6098 Ruslana Nesteruk from Lutsk , 4086 Kseniya Lagun from Zhitomir, 3903 is Yana Kaliszna from Poltava, i hope these can help find out more about this , beware of Valyusha B 4287 she is a real manipulator, i can tell by her letters,i hope to have a few more names on Monday / Tuesday , until them take care,
Jo Blo.----------

Any more available yet. ? How about No: 7016. ?
Where are you getting them all from ? Is it secret. ? :)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 12:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

O.M.G. 700 times. ! What on earth could a girl do with 700 men writing to her. ?? She would have to work 24/7 x 52 just writing letters. ! What was her ID number. ? worth a look if she is 'that' good. !

Dublin It really wouldn't be a lot of work, only one letter a day:) I'll try to find her, I just came upon her by accident using there search engine. There are lots of chicks on there around two hundred hits. Really wouldn't be hard to stand out among 200 guys would it.

One letter a day. ? Do your Maths Peter. :D
She writes 700 letters, and gets (probably) say 500 replies. ? Then continues writing to 500 Guys. ! Imagine having 500 letters pile up in your InTray waiting to be answered. ! Even when you get through half that lot, the first 200/300 or so have already replied so your inbox is actually going to get bigger and bigger. A few thousand per year is more like it which could end up being 10 letters a day x 365 days. !!!
[:0]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 12:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

Elenas models seems legit they charge $8 for unlimited emails with one lady not $75 for one month like UAFLADYS also a lot of ladies i showed an interest in replied they were not interested not like UAFLadys where the girls always write back .Also the most popular ladies seem to hook up with somebody and leave not like our ex top 100 who are there for years i see the list is still down i will write and ask wheres the list.I am a bit demotivated though really thought i found my other half at UaflADYS.

gtearne


What a shame your contemplating going to her. ! Just adding more $millions to the $millions she already has. ! :(

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

GMAN
01-16-2007, 12:52 PM
No what i meant was packing in the whole idea of looking for a wife in FSU .The one i wrote to said she loved me but found out she was writing to other guys.The Valusha girl hinted she wanted a bear from me and i see another guy bought her one.They are really out to make money for the company.Are the top 100 girls hiding amongst the others now.I thought this was supposed to be a marriage agency my fake profile interests were night owl party animal play drums in a band listen to heavy metal all day and i still got letters and also drink all the time makes one wonder.

gtearne

Prometheus
01-16-2007, 01:49 PM
Dublin,

If you write one letter a day and send it to 700 guys, who each think the letter is writen ONLY for them, it is NOT that hard! CC and UAL have proved as much as true! ;)

I would write: I had a horrible day today, I learned that my mother lost her long fought battle with cancer.

Ms. CC would reply: Hello darling! It is a wonderful day in Lugansk. I met my friends for lunch in the park. Do you have many friends? I am reminded of the words of your poet Robert Frost (who I just happened to be reading on the bus today)...

I bet that letter went to 700 guys!:)


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

It really wouldn't be a lot of work, only one letter a day:)
One letter a day. ? Do your Maths Peter. :D
She writes 700 letters, and gets (probably) say 500 replies. ? Then continues writing to 500 Guys. ! Imagine having 500 letters pile up in your InTray waiting to be answered. ! Even when you get through half that lot, the first 200/300 or so have already replied so your inbox is actually going to get bigger and bigger. A few thousand per year is more like it which could end up being 10 letters a day x 365 days. !!!
[:0]

blondepeter
01-16-2007, 01:59 PM
One letter a day. ? Do your Maths Peter.
She writes 700 letters, and gets (probably) say 500 replies. ? Then continues writing to 500 Guys. ! Imagine having 500 letters pile up in your InTray waiting to be answered. ! Even when you get through half that lot, the first 200/300 or so have already replied so your inbox is actually going to get bigger and bigger. A few thousand per year is more like it which could end up being 10 letters a day x 365 days. !!!

What I'm saying is that "she" only has to write one letter a day and they send it 700 times. Of course some of these guys would have clued in and some would fizzle out early on. Maybe they only have to send her daily letter 300 times. 300 x $7 = $2100 per day. You know if a guy was careful he could live on that much money :) They better be nice to her.

tot446
01-16-2007, 03:02 PM
Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 03:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by blondepeter

One letter a day. ? Do your Maths Peter.
She writes 700 letters, and gets (probably) say 500 replies. ? Then continues writing to 500 Guys. ! Imagine having 500 letters pile up in your InTray waiting to be answered. ! Even when you get through half that lot, the first 200/300 or so have already replied so your inbox is actually going to get bigger and bigger. A few thousand per year is more like it which could end up being 10 letters a day x 365 days. !!!

What I'm saying is that "she" only has to write one letter a day and they send it 700 times. Of course some of these guys would have clued in and some would fizzle out early on. Maybe they only have to send her daily letter 300 times. 300 x $7 = $2100 per day. You know if a guy was careful he could live on that much money :) They better be nice to her.

:D She might even get rich on it. ! "money while you wait in the wings". [:p]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 03:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Dublin,

If you write one letter a day and send it to 700 guys, who each think the letter is writen ONLY for them, it is NOT that hard! CC and UAL have proved as much as true! ;)

I would write: I had a horrible day today, I learned that my mother lost her long fought battle with cancer.

Ms. CC would reply: Hello darling! It is a wonderful day in Lugansk. I met my friends for lunch in the park. Do you have many friends? I am reminded of the words of your poet Robert Frost (who I just happened to be reading on the bus today)...

I bet that letter went to 700 guys!:)





:D your sense of humour is flooding all over the place. [8D]

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 03:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by GMAN

No what i meant was packing in the whole idea of looking for a wife in FSU .The one i wrote to said she loved me but found out she was writing to other guys.The Valusha girl hinted she wanted a bear from me and i see another guy bought her one.They are really out to make money for the company.Are the top 100 girls hiding amongst the others now.I thought this was supposed to be a marriage agency my fake profile interests were night owl party animal play drums in a band listen to heavy metal all day and i still got letters and also drink all the time makes one wonder.

gtearne

Packing in looking altogether.? [:0]
I bet you can't stop looking. ! ;) Its like a drug. All those beautiful legs and bodies. ! [:p] 'sigh' 'sigh'. If only I were younger, I would run back to SA. During my time there I thought the girls were really beautiful. ! [:p] I know its only skin deep, but. [^]

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

Prometheus
01-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Alexa gave www.confidentialconnections.com a traffic rank of 36,081.

Alexa gives www.ualadys.com a traffic rank of 432,278! Way down.

blondepeter
01-16-2007, 08:40 PM
Hello

You guys might be pleased to know that in a very short time I have advanced to the point where UA support are ignoring my questions! I bet it takes some guys months to achieve that level of success. I have a question. I just got another hit from the AR Connection. Why are there supposedly so many Ukrainian ladies in South America? If they are really there what would be the draw?

howard darby
01-16-2007, 09:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by tot446

Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

jo blo --i have been writing to julia 3801 for almos 3 years but she left for about 4 months suposedly another guy came to see her butit didnt work out she now tells me im the only one(haha)

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 09:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Alexa gave www.confidentialconnections.com a traffic rank of 36,081.

Alexa gives www.ualadys.com a traffic rank of 432,278! Way down.

What about CC.NET ?? :D

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 09:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

jo blo --i have been writing to julia 3801 for almos 3 years but she left for about 4 months suposedly another guy came to see her butit didnt work out she now tells me im the only one(haha)

howard. 3 Years. !!!!!!!!! Your joking. ?

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

howard darby
01-16-2007, 09:24 PM
well now i see web page has changed--ua site says ex cc
i just got a new letter from olga k 7721 now it just amazes me that she is 19 and i am 60 and my photos are posted on the site along with my bday and age range i am interested in so why do these kids keep writing; everyonce in awhile i will waste and email and write them back asking what they want with an old man and they always come back with age doesnt matter and they want someone mature( what they want is a sugar daddy that they can kill with "lovin") they will really be fooled with me cause everything i have is in trust and my nephew is the trustee-
the older ladies i have written seem to not be scammers and they answer all my wuestion and carry on a pretty good conversation

Prometheus
01-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Sorry dublin... 5,977,281. [B)]

howard darby
01-16-2007, 09:29 PM
dublin
yep 3 years just as friends because i told her i was too old for her she still wants to meet me when i go there in april

Prometheus
01-16-2007, 09:33 PM
That's why they invented Viagra Howard! Instead of wasting your money on a scammer, just buy a box of Trojans, rent the nicest hotel suite in town, and let a couple of good looking Russian whores "kill you with their loving." It will be a lot cheaper in the long run, and a HELL of a lot more enjoyable. ;)

tot446
01-16-2007, 09:49 PM
Julia are not saying that i am the only one, but i like the pictures she sends :D

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 11:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by howard darby

well now i see web page has changed--ua site says ex cc
i just got a new letter from olga k 7721 now it just amazes me that she is 19 and i am 60 and my photos are posted on the site along with my bday and age range i am interested in so why do these kids keep writing; everyonce in awhile i will waste and email and write them back asking what they want with an old man and they always come back with age doesnt matter and they want someone mature( what they want is a sugar daddy that they can kill with "lovin") they will really be fooled with me cause everything i have is in trust and my nephew is the trustee-
the older ladies i have written seem to not be scammers and they answer all my wuestion and carry on a pretty good conversation

howard, commiserations. ! I know the feeling. ! :(

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 11:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

That's why they invented Viagra Howard! Instead of wasting your money on a scammer, just buy a box of Trojans, rent the nicest hotel suite in town, and let a couple of good looking Russian whores "kill you with their loving." It will be a lot cheaper in the long run, and a HELL of a lot more enjoyable. ;)


Hahahaha. !! Bully. :D All you young Guys boasting about your 'prowess'. :(

dublindevil
01-16-2007, 11:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by Prometheus

Sorry dublin... 5,977,281. [B)]


Oh well. ! :(
I have quite a few hits anyway. ! :D
5 million nine hundred and seventy seven thousand, to go, and counting. !! ;)

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

siberianhusky
01-17-2007, 02:19 AM
The following is a copy and paste from the Terms and Conditions that both UAL and I have to follow.....

Privacy Policy: UA Ladys.com is fully committed to protecting members privacy. We want your time with us spent pursuing love - how are you going to do that if you're worried about your privacy? Therefore we have an extremely simple policy. 1. All acceptable information you give us for display on your Personal will in fact be displayed on your Private Personal. (if you give us unacceptable information, such as bad language, sexual rudeness, we will e-mail you and ask you to remove it and not commit the act(s) again. 2. Any information you give us that is on your Personal Page will be kept strictly confidential. 3. We WILL use your e mail address, NOT your name, or other personal information with any other business or marketing campaign. It will only be used for a affiliated site we have intrest in. We do not sell our e mail lists. When you have joined you consent for us to send you news of other projects we are developing. What about the law? We're subject to it just like everyone else. We're required to give information to legal authorities if they have the proper authorization such as a search warrant or court order. Short of that, your information is locked up tight. 4.Your individual use of UA Ladys.com and your interaction with others through UA Ladys.com will be kept strictly private.Lastly, we take our Privacy Policy very seriously. We want you to have confidence whenever you use UA Ladys.com 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days of the year.


I am not a lawyer but I do believe they have breached my contract by giving my full name to the lady/ladies which is against the privacy act in law. They tell you that you can only give your full name and email and phone to the ladies when you meet them in person at the offices/branches of the UAL so I will press charges against them for disclosing my personal information to the lady/ladies and client/clients. If you look at your own profile it only list your first name and the beginning letter of your last name. They do this because of the privacy law and they are only allowed to use your email address within the company to send you letters from the ladies or support and like your full name/email are not supposed to be given to any of the ladies that are under contract of UAL that goes for the translators and managers and so on up.

If you have any questions or thoughts by all means let me know.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone

Jo Blo
01-17-2007, 08:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by howard darby


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

jo blo --i have been writing to julia 3801 for almos 3 years but she left for about 4 months suposedly another guy came to see her butit didnt work out she now tells me im the only one(haha)
Hello Dublin, I am currently working on finding out more names, its no big secret either, its because of the commercial licences i have , which i need for professional and biz reasons, in regard to CC/UA ladies protecting everyones privacy, that is a load of rubbish and nothing else, because i have several letters in my mailbox which are NOT addressed to me , one in particular i recall is a letter from Anastasia S to a guy named Victor A, which i found amusing !! Also Dublin i am about to do some more research on them, do you have an email address so i can send you some info on other related matters , and Sergey Shkolnik is the Manager - Support Services, he is almost useless, he still has not answered my questions about the Argentina branch, and that was 22 November 2006 !! Dublin, please remember 'they' are watching and i dont want them to take advantage of finding out what i know by reading it here, do you understand ?? Oh , by the way Yana K #3903 (Kaliszna)from Poltava & Zhenya P from Kremenchug are 1st cousins on their maternal side , have a look at their photo's and compare, there is a lot more than just a passing resemblance, and something i also discovered while doing whats called a 'technical & statistical analysis' is this , out of the last 11 women who wrote to me , 9 of them who wrote to me first between 7-30 days BEFORE their next birthday !! I think thats very interesting, and a good prop for some gifts , dont you think ?? This is DEFINITELY not coincidence, on chance & probability its totally off the map !!For those planning legal proceedings , please note that written contracts are 'worthless' in court in Russia, and if you look at the Brazilian site next to where it says "what a girl wants" there is a photo of a girl with some red roses, that is Natalia O (#84) from Russia, on the Brazilian website seems strange to me, So Dub send me your email address, take care..... Jo Blo. P.S I am working on more names .
howard. 3 Years. !!!!!!!!! Your joking. ?

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 08:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by tot446

Julia are not saying that i am the only one, but i like the pictures she sends :D




Which Julia is that ? Maybe she is the same one who sent me almost nude pic's. ?? Is her number: 7016. ?

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 08:54 AM
Admin.
Any news on the internal mail system yet. ?
Its a little too revealing posting our email addresses on this site. !
Too many 'unwelcome' viewers. !

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Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 09:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

The following is a copy and paste from the Terms and Conditions that both UAL and I have to follow.....

Privacy Policy: UA Ladys.com is fully committed to protecting members privacy. We want your time with us spent pursuing love - how are you going to do that if you're worried about your privacy? Therefore we have an extremely simple policy. 1. All acceptable information you give us for display on your Personal will in fact be displayed on your Private Personal. (if you give us unacceptable information, such as bad language, sexual rudeness, we will e-mail you and ask you to remove it and not commit the act(s) again. 2. Any information you give us that is on your Personal Page will be kept strictly confidential. 3. We WILL use your e mail address, NOT your name, or other personal information with any other business or marketing campaign. It will only be used for a affiliated site we have intrest in. We do not sell our e mail lists. When you have joined you consent for us to send you news of other projects we are developing. What about the law? We're subject to it just like everyone else. We're required to give information to legal authorities if they have the proper authorization such as a search warrant or court order. Short of that, your information is locked up tight. 4.Your individual use of UA Ladys.com and your interaction with others through UA Ladys.com will be kept strictly private.Lastly, we take our Privacy Policy very seriously. We want you to have confidence whenever you use UA Ladys.com 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days of the year.


I am not a lawyer but I do believe they have breached my contract by giving my full name to the lady/ladies which is against the privacy act in law. They tell you that you can only give your full name and email and phone to the ladies when you meet them in person at the offices/branches of the UAL so I will press charges against them for disclosing my personal information to the lady/ladies and client/clients. If you look at your own profile it only list your first name and the beginning letter of your last name. They do this because of the privacy law and they are only allowed to use your email address within the company to send you letters from the ladies or support and like your full name/email are not supposed to be given to any of the ladies that are under contract of UAL that goes for the translators and managers and so on up.

If you have any questions or thoughts by all means let me know.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone


There are a few very interesting pieces in that so called 'agreement'.
I have been spammed, as I said on CC.NET, which means my email address's have been given out by CC to others.
quote)We WILL use your e mail address, NOT your name, or other personal information with any other business or marketing campaign. It will only be used for a affiliated site we have intrest in.(unquote)
That statement is completely contradictory. ! They WILL use your email address, but not your name or personal information. ! IT (your name and personal information) will only be used for an affiliate site. ! A complete load of rubbish which would not stand up in court. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

siberianhusky
01-17-2007, 09:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by siberianhusky

The following is a copy and paste from the Terms and Conditions that both UAL and I have to follow.....

Privacy Policy: UA Ladys.com is fully committed to protecting members privacy. We want your time with us spent pursuing love - how are you going to do that if you're worried about your privacy? Therefore we have an extremely simple policy. 1. All acceptable information you give us for display on your Personal will in fact be displayed on your Private Personal. (if you give us unacceptable information, such as bad language, sexual rudeness, we will e-mail you and ask you to remove it and not commit the act(s) again. 2. Any information you give us that is on your Personal Page will be kept strictly confidential. 3. We WILL use your e mail address, NOT your name, or other personal information with any other business or marketing campaign. It will only be used for a affiliated site we have intrest in. We do not sell our e mail lists. When you have joined you consent for us to send you news of other projects we are developing. What about the law? We're subject to it just like everyone else. We're required to give information to legal authorities if they have the proper authorization such as a search warrant or court order. Short of that, your information is locked up tight. 4.Your individual use of UA Ladys.com and your interaction with others through UA Ladys.com will be kept strictly private.Lastly, we take our Privacy Policy very seriously. We want you to have confidence whenever you use UA Ladys.com 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days of the year.


I am not a lawyer but I do believe they have breached my contract by giving my full name to the lady/ladies which is against the privacy act in law. They tell you that you can only give your full name and email and phone to the ladies when you meet them in person at the offices/branches of the UAL so I will press charges against them for disclosing my personal information to the lady/ladies and client/clients. If you look at your own profile it only list your first name and the beginning letter of your last name. They do this because of the privacy law and they are only allowed to use your email address within the company to send you letters from the ladies or support and like your full name/email are not supposed to be given to any of the ladies that are under contract of UAL that goes for the translators and managers and so on up.

If you have any questions or thoughts by all means let me know.

Thanks

Siberian

The Shackles Are Undone


There are a few very interesting pieces in that so called 'agreement'.
I have been spammed, as I said on CC.NET, which means my email address's have been given out by CC to others.
quote)We WILL use your e mail address, NOT your name, or other personal information with any other business or marketing campaign. It will only be used for a affiliated site we have intrest in.(unquote)
That statement is completely contradictory. ! They WILL use your email address, but not your name or personal information. ! IT (your name and personal information) will only be used for an affiliate site. ! A complete load of rubbish which would not stand up in court. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>


Well they say that they only give your email to their affiliates but I think it is BS because ever since I have been a client from UAL/CC all I have been receiving is spam and nothing that they would be affiliated with either. Yes a complete load of rubbish!!

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 11:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jo Blo


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil


quote:Originally posted by howard darby


quote:Originally posted by tot446

Hello JO Blo
Do you have the full name on #4332 og 3801

Tot

jo blo --i have been writing to julia 3801 for almos 3 years but she left for about 4 months suposedly another guy came to see her butit didnt work out she now tells me im the only one(haha)
Hello Dublin, I am currently working on finding out more names, its no big secret either, its because of the commercial licences i have , which i need for professional and biz reasons, in regard to CC/UA ladies protecting everyones privacy, that is a load of rubbish and nothing else, because i have several letters in my mailbox which are NOT addressed to me , one in particular i recall is a letter from Anastasia S to a guy named Victor A, which i found amusing !! Also Dublin i am about to do some more research on them, do you have an email address so i can send you some info on other related matters , and Sergey Shkolnik is the Manager - Support Services, he is almost useless, he still has not answered my questions about the Argentina branch, and that was 22 November 2006 !! Dublin, please remember 'they' are watching and i dont want them to take advantage of finding out what i know by reading it here, do you understand ?? Oh , by the way Yana K #3903 (Kaliszna)from Poltava & Zhenya P from Kremenchug are 1st cousins on their maternal side , have a look at their photo's and compare, there is a lot more than just a passing resemblance, and something i also discovered while doing whats called a 'technical & statistical analysis' is this , out of the last 11 women who wrote to me , 9 of them who wrote to me first between 7-30 days BEFORE their next birthday !! I think thats very interesting, and a good prop for some gifts , dont you think ?? This is DEFINITELY not coincidence, on chance & probability its totally off the map !!For those planning legal proceedings , please note that written contracts are 'worthless' in court in Russia, and if you look at the Brazilian site next to where it says "what a girl wants" there is a photo of a girl with some red roses, that is Natalia O (#84) from Russia, on the Brazilian website seems strange to me, So Dub send me your email address, take care..... Jo Blo. P.S I am working on more names .
howard. 3 Years. !!!!!!!!! Your joking. ?

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>



Jo Blo.
The internal mail system does not appear to be working so here is an address you can use. ! Its an old address I no longer use although I can still receive on it. scaminfo@eircom.net (Note the 'scaminfo' !)
When I reply I will use a current address, so don't get confued. ! :) Look forward to your mail. !

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 12:14 PM
I was forced to buy just one more email today, as I needed to write one last letter to my 'EX'. ! I found the C/Card screen diabolical. ! Here is what I wrote.
"" This is your question. Ticket #39051 From: RAY unknown (******)

Your Credit Card screen is diabolical. ! It looks extremely unsafe, and I will never use it again. How can you treat us members so badly. Credit card security is a very volatile issue. The screen has text scattered all over the place, some of it not even in place correctly. ! If my c.card details are lost or hacked by anybody I will hold you completely responsible for ALL my losses. I would also appreciate answers to all my previous mail about Fraud. ? ""

So, Apart from all the other reasons for us to never use UAL again, the C/Card issue can be added to it as well, as that issue is probably more important than all others. !


<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

blondepeter
01-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Hello, dear Peter.

Thank you for e-mailing us and thank you for using our services.

We have got in touch with the lady #7536 and she confirmed her
registration in another agency, but about a year ago she asked the management
of that agency to close her profile, because they sell addresses and she
doesn?t want any stranger to knock her door in the middle of the
night. But it appears that that agency have not closed her profile and
continued selling her address against her will. The lady has got in touch
with that agency again to close her profile and stop selling her
address, because it?s very unsafe for a lady.

The lady doesn?t know about any English lessons from you for 4$ an
hour, I guess you can talk to her about these lessons on the phone when
you call her.

I can tell that you are lucky to find $4.00 English lessons per hour,
but I believe there something wrong, because this price is unreal for
English lessons.


Just got this letter this morning. How about this for BS? She doesn't want a stranger to knock on her door, she especially doesn't want one of the many men she's been screwing over to show up there either. Do you see how the agency assumes that I will call her on the phone to discuss this with her. Good luck with that. Then the agency says that $4 per hour for English lessons is "unreal". Yeh, it kind of makes your English lessons look like a scam. In a country where lots of people don't make $4 per day the lady I had lined up was damn thrilled to make that per hour.

blondepeter
01-17-2007, 01:41 PM
And here's today's letter from my beloved Irina. Sadly it seems like it's over between us. She wishes to stop communication. Oddly enough that stopped 2 weeks ago anyways. I guess it took her a while to notice, but then love tends to alter your perception of time.


Hello dear Peter,


Today I decided to write you this letter in order to tell you that I have very sad and grey mood because I am dissapointed by your behaviour...I did not expected such from your side...It was a surprise for me to know that you have sent me money for courses and I want to inform you that I received nothing..How did you send them and if you did why I received nothing?


I planned that our future would be so nice and I was waiting for our meeting with joy and impatience...But I was chocked by that fact that unknown man came to my house in order to speak with me...You know those people? I was scared and I was afraid of them doign something wrong with me and when I heard that they are from you, I was very surprised...


You are talking that I must feel safe while speaking on the phone with you, but to send some people to my appartment whom I saw for the first time was very clever you think? That is why I trust my agency..They will never give the information and nobody will just come to my house and say strange words to me...


Now, I do not know what to think about you...You write about your sincere feelings and intentions but I do not know what to think now after such behaviour from your side..


I do not know if it is reasonable to continue our correspondence because you hurt my feelings so much and I was thinking about this all these days and you sent to me those people and this letter with such words..You did no care about me, you were just careless...


You made me think about you in another way...


We should stop...


Irina.


Notice that even though she's done with me where is the money I told the agency I sent. "We should stop.....but why don't I have the money you spoke of?" Oh well, I guess because we've stopped communicating I can't tell her.

Prometheus
01-17-2007, 02:15 PM
Dublin,

Let me say for the benefit of any "blue pill takers" still reading, that are foolishly sending money to CC (now UALADYS) for any reason. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GIVE THIS OUTFIT YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER. When I began to have my doubts, I reported my primary credit card stolen and had a new number issued. I then continued cautiously, and only used Western Union to send money to CC. It leaves a paper trail and protects your credit card numbers.

I am not accusing anyone of unauthorized credit card use, but given the history of this agency, I think it would be extremely foolish to let them have access to your credit card, or worse a debit/credit card number...

Proceed with caution.


quote:Originally posted by dublindevil

I was forced to buy just one more email today, as I needed to write one last letter to my 'EX'. ! I found the C/Card screen diabolical. ! Here is what I wrote.
"" This is your question. Ticket #39051 From: RAY unknown (******)

Your Credit Card screen is diabolical. ! It looks extremely unsafe, and I will never use it again. How can you treat us members so badly. Credit card security is a very volatile issue. The screen has text scattered all over the place, some of it not even in place correctly. ! If my c.card details are lost or hacked by anybody I will hold you completely responsible for ALL my losses. I would also appreciate answers to all my previous mail about Fraud. ? ""

So, Apart from all the other reasons for us to never use UAL again, the C/Card issue can be added to it as well, as that issue is probably more important than all others. !

dublindevil
01-17-2007, 02:39 PM
Now, I do not know what to think about you...You write about your sincere feelings and intentions but I do not know what to think now after such behaviour from your side..


I do not know if it is reasonable to continue our correspondence because you hurt my feelings so much and I was thinking about this all these days and you sent to me those people and this letter with such words..You did no care about me, you were just careless...


You made me think about you in another way...


We should stop...


Irina.


Notice that even though she's done with me where is the money I told the agency I sent. "We should stop.....but why don't I have the money you spoke of?" Oh well, I guess because we've stopped communicating I can't tell her.
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surely you did not send anybody to her apartment, did you ?
how is that possible. ? did you get her address. ?
Maybe I am being gormless. ? :(

<h5>The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
Power to the People is long Overdue</h5>

I see from your previous post now, that you got her address from some other site. ! Anyway, did you send somebody to check up on her .?