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Wally
05-10-2007, 06:58 AM
I've been communication with a "Student" in lugansk.... she has sent me photos of her holding photos of me.... she has sent scans of her passport and visa (embassy is currently verifying)

Now she says she needs $1680 for "customs supervision" to leave the Ukraine..... is this a scam?

cmiia
05-10-2007, 08:17 PM
DUH!!!

It's a scam of course.

Delete her emails, forget you ever knew her. You're wasting your time and money.

Ihearmytrain
05-12-2007, 03:39 PM
DON'T DELETE HER E-MAILS!!!!!

Personally, one of the reasons I joined this site is the sharing of information!!! Take everything you have, letters she wrote, photos, name she used, passport copy, her street address, e-mail address, what site you met her on, etc... put everything in a zip and send it to this site! Let others know about this person.

Train

cmiia
05-13-2007, 05:31 AM
Delete the emails and get a life.......no doubt his emails are similar to many others.

Spend your money/time on something useful. If you can't figure out a simple scam then you better not even try looking overseas for a partner.

Ihearmytrain
05-14-2007, 06:20 AM
It's obvious that bach1685 must have recently given up a lot of money to a scammer. Wally, I'm not a world traveler and I've never heard of "cusotms supervision" fee? You might want to pay a few bucks for an ant-scam check. It costs from about $20 USD on up depending on how much info and detail you ask for. They're not a 100%, but nothing is.

Train

elenag
05-14-2007, 01:42 PM
Or go online, find the web site of your Embassy in Kiev, and check the requirements for traveling. The Embassy stuff can also provide help by email and phone.

Wally
05-14-2007, 03:22 PM
Thanks to everyone for their input!!!! I've seen my share of dating scams and they are usually easily figured out.....Elena, The US embassy website in Kiev doesn't have much information on it... and nothing that applies to Ukranians leaving the Ukraine. However, There is a new Visa phone center (US Embassy operated)that will answer all visa questions for a nominal cost. It was set up to help with the K1 marriage visas, but you can ask about other visas also.

Train, do you have a web addr for the anti scam checks?

elenag
05-14-2007, 05:52 PM
try googling "Ukraine USA travel requirements" (if you are not from USA, use your country name, of course).

elenag
05-14-2007, 05:52 PM
try googling "Ukraine USA travel requirements" (if you are not from USA, use your country name, of course).

elenag
05-14-2007, 05:56 PM
If you could, post relevant links here, so everyone in the future could check them, too

elenag
05-14-2007, 05:56 PM
If you could, post relevant links here, so everyone in the future could check them, too

elenag
05-14-2007, 06:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Wally
Train, do you have a web addr for the anti scam checks?

I do the anti-scam check, too, but I primarily work with more serious cases, especially if someone has already lost money, etc. For a quick no-brainer check I would suggest going with the cheapest option (which I am not).

elenag
05-14-2007, 06:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Wally
Train, do you have a web addr for the anti scam checks?

I do the anti-scam check, too, but I primarily work with more serious cases, especially if someone has already lost money, etc. For a quick no-brainer check I would suggest going with the cheapest option (which I am not).

Ihearmytrain
05-14-2007, 08:47 PM
Hey Wally! 1st I want to state for the record that I don't work for this agency, receive money from them, or have any asscosiation with them aside from PAYING them to do a background check on a person who turned out to be a blacklisted scammer. I am only posting this because you asked, otherwise I have only referred to doing background checks without ever mentioning any particular agency. I also want to tell you that they are part of the "Alina" agency. I have heard both good and BAD things about them!!! You make your own decissions!!!

Good Luck!!!

Train

Ihearmytrain
05-14-2007, 08:47 PM
Hey Wally! 1st I want to state for the record that I don't work for this agency, receive money from them, or have any asscosiation with them aside from PAYING them to do a background check on a person who turned out to be a blacklisted scammer. I am only posting this because you asked, otherwise I have only referred to doing background checks without ever mentioning any particular agency. I also want to tell you that they are part of the "Alina" agency. I have heard both good and BAD things about them!!! You make your own decissions!!!

Good Luck!!!

Train

elenag
05-14-2007, 08:54 PM
Just for the record, I would recomment guys to use someone located NOT in Yishkar-Ola to do the scam checks. I am completely serious. Stay away from companies in Lugansk, Ukraine and Yoshkar-Ola, Mari El. All of them, if at all possible.

elenag
05-14-2007, 08:54 PM
Just for the record, I would recomment guys to use someone located NOT in Yishkar-Ola to do the scam checks. I am completely serious. Stay away from companies in Lugansk, Ukraine and Yoshkar-Ola, Mari El. All of them, if at all possible.

elenag
05-14-2007, 08:55 PM
My recommendation would include the entire Lugansk region and especially the entire Mari El region.

elenag
05-14-2007, 08:55 PM
My recommendation would include the entire Lugansk region and especially the entire Mari El region.

cmiia
05-14-2007, 09:05 PM
I never lost money to any scammer....had more brains than that.

Unlike some here who clearly would be better not even trying to look overseas for a partner.

As to paying some so called 'Detective' in Ukraine or elsewhere why waste your money and time?. They are a dime a dozen and there's little way of vetting what they claim.

cmiia
05-14-2007, 09:05 PM
I never lost money to any scammer....had more brains than that.

Unlike some here who clearly would be better not even trying to look overseas for a partner.

As to paying some so called 'Detective' in Ukraine or elsewhere why waste your money and time?. They are a dime a dozen and there's little way of vetting what they claim.

Ihearmytrain
05-14-2007, 09:28 PM
elenag, I've heard that the areas you refer to are scammer central and that Alina agency is in Yoshkar-Ola. That's why I say they worked out for me, but I don't personally promise anything. Like I say, it's a crap shoot... ultimately, each person has to make his or her own choices and live with the consequences. I've been a little cautious and a little lucky so far, but your advise is alway more than welcome!!!

Train

Ihearmytrain
05-14-2007, 09:28 PM
elenag, I've heard that the areas you refer to are scammer central and that Alina agency is in Yoshkar-Ola. That's why I say they worked out for me, but I don't personally promise anything. Like I say, it's a crap shoot... ultimately, each person has to make his or her own choices and live with the consequences. I've been a little cautious and a little lucky so far, but your advise is alway more than welcome!!!

Train

elenag
05-14-2007, 10:05 PM
Ok, as long as you are aware of the risk.

elenag
05-14-2007, 10:05 PM
Ok, as long as you are aware of the risk.

Mikebww
08-06-2007, 05:14 AM
Yes, most certainly. Same thing happened to me. The British Embassy said that no such customs requirements exist. In fact I was told that she had to have ?1,000 on her person to leave the country. When I didn't send by the deadline she set, she disappeared
quote:Originally posted by Wally

I've been communication with a "Student" in lugansk.... she has sent me photos of her holding photos of me.... she has sent scans of her passport and visa (embassy is currently verifying)

Now she says she needs $1680 for "customs supervision" to leave the Ukraine..... is this a scam?

Gordon
01-18-2008, 03:05 PM
Hi Wally and others. nobody from Ukraine or Russia can get a visa to USA or Europe without showing a picture of the 2 of you togther. So if you have never met and have a picture taken then any talk about visa, tickets or other is SCAM.

Only other way to get a visa is by an impresario who can arrange visa to any country if the girl work as a prostitue.

swede
01-18-2008, 07:46 PM
Cit Gordon:

"Only other way to get a visa is by an impresario who can arrange visa to any country if the girl work as a prostitue".

Please clarify. Not because I want to drool over the juicy parts, but because this seems a bit irregular. Prostitution isn't exactly high on the official lists of "preferable professionals", like management specialists, theoretical physicists or brain surgeons, who possibly could meet a lenient treatment in the visa process.

PeopleSmoks
01-19-2008, 12:40 AM
From what I understand, it becomes a business trip and thus the availabilty of the visa.

And you're right to some extent Gordon. What you're referring to is for a K1 visa. It's proof to the US government that you and this girl have more going than just a few e-mails having been exchanged. Google US visas and click on the site for the State Dept. Loads of info that every guy in the US should know about visa requirements for FSU/MOBs.

Train returns

PeopleSmoks
01-19-2008, 12:43 AM
Hey swede, look north on the page. See Ihearmytrain? That was me when I was a newbie, before something got screwed up with my login, thus, Train returns![8D]

Train returns

Gordon
01-19-2008, 03:26 PM
Hi Swede,

In Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and Moldova there is a wide network of "impresarios" with counterparts in US and several European countries. They get in contact with girls who may already be prostitutes and in many cases not. They offer them a chance for a "good" life in a western country. They produce the necessary pictures if a tourist visa is needed or an invitation if a business visa is needed. In case of a touris visa they deposit the required money for security of the visa (typically 10.000 USD) and arrange the visa for the girl. When she gets to the country in question they take her passport and she has a credit of between 10.000 and 20.000 USD that she has to work off before she can return. So the "good" life is as a prostitute for 3 months.

These "impresarios" can arrange visas for any girl to any country.

Ordinary girls that you meet on the internet sites will never have a chance to get an ordinary tourist visa and neither a business visa. So yes they will need the picture of the 2 of you togther to get a visa as well as an invitation from you..

swede
01-19-2008, 09:56 PM
Thanks for the info.