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vxbb
05-17-2007, 12:40 PM
Guys ? this web-site is wonderful. I have been scammed, luckily only to the tune of about $100US, but I thought I?d write an article about my experiences. As it is you guys have got the t-shirt, but now I like to have fun with scammers and here?s what I do. I?m pretty sure I can now spot a scammer at 100 paces ? the old signs like a sob story (usually all very similar), undying love at first email, vagueness/evasiveness to questions.

Then of course the request for money. When that comes, my plan kicks in. I am normally involved with scammers from Nigeria and Ghana. I live in London, which has many Nigerians and Ghanaians so finding out a bit of background to feed the scammer is very very easy. I know the main languages spoken in each country, which are also linked to what they still refer to as tribes ? Twi and Ga in Ghana, Yoruba and Ibo in Nigeria. There are others. Just a mention of that has the scammers thinking, and is often met with a pensive ?are you Nigerian/Ghanaian??

? That?s all you need ? just say you have a friend/ex girlfriend living over there, in whatever city your scammer says they are in. Tell the scammer you will send them money but only via your friend, because you sent money by transfer before which didn?t arrive, and they should collect it in person from them. This of course gives your scammer a BIG problem. As they are NOT the person whose photos you have (that girl is likely a model the scammer doesn?t know), your ?girl? can?t meet your friend. They will try all ways to get you to send money but stick to your guns, and if you offer enough money they will get greedy and offer to send their friend ? which will be your scammer of course. Well, let them! Accept their offer - Make a totally false appointment, by searching on the web for a large hotel or office in the city. Give them a time ? late at night if possible so they are stranded - and let them stand there!!!!!!! Email to say you are laughing at them, for when they next log on! Unless of course you prefer to string them along and set them up a second time by giving a new appointment another day!

Or, and this isn?t as good but it?s a consolation prize

? you can tell them you have sent money via a money transfer, make up a fake reference number (normally a letter then 8-9 digits) and as money transfers ask for a password make up one that makes them look really stupid, i.e. IAMAKUNT or VANKER or FICKOV, anything. Enjoy the thought of them running around to the nearest office, sweating with greed and fighting with the bank clerk insisting they MUST have the money! Imagine all the scammer promised his girlfriend with YOUR money that he now can?t do! Email to say you are laughing at them, for when they next log on! Unless of course you prefer to string them along and set them up a second time by giving a new false reference for another day!


stephen

cmiia
05-17-2007, 09:06 PM
Or better still get yourself a life and delete their email.

It's a few minutes aved not lowering yourself to the level or the scammer.

cmiia
05-17-2007, 09:06 PM
Or better still get yourself a life and delete their email.

It's a few minutes aved not lowering yourself to the level or the scammer.

Ihearmytrain
05-17-2007, 09:52 PM
Hey vxbb! I do it all the time! I've got one scammer writing to me using 2 different names, home cities and e-mails, and so am I. I even got a hot 22 yo bi girl who's a friend of mine writing to the scammer!Now. to Gret, the scammer became 25 instead of 27,(because Gret's only 23)and is now discussing "her" desire to be with another woman! Gret updates me regularly. It's lesbian erotica! It's hillarious! If you can, and have time, screw with the scammer. Promise money and make up an excuse why you couldn't send it. Tell the scammer you "love" "her". Realize you may be e-mailing a guy! Frack it! It don't cost nothin'...

Another game is to tell the scammer you are thinking about flying to meet "her" in "her" own country to meet "her" mum and dad before returning to your new home together.

Train

Ihearmytrain
05-17-2007, 09:52 PM
Hey vxbb! I do it all the time! I've got one scammer writing to me using 2 different names, home cities and e-mails, and so am I. I even got a hot 22 yo bi girl who's a friend of mine writing to the scammer!Now. to Gret, the scammer became 25 instead of 27,(because Gret's only 23)and is now discussing "her" desire to be with another woman! Gret updates me regularly. It's lesbian erotica! It's hillarious! If you can, and have time, screw with the scammer. Promise money and make up an excuse why you couldn't send it. Tell the scammer you "love" "her". Realize you may be e-mailing a guy! Frack it! It don't cost nothin'...

Another game is to tell the scammer you are thinking about flying to meet "her" in "her" own country to meet "her" mum and dad before returning to your new home together.

Train

mace
05-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Ihearmytrain, love the idea of the parents. I just about ended up heading to see someone who was a scammer. Thank God it fell through. I see how we would be stuping to their level, but I love the idea of it.

mace
05-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Ihearmytrain, love the idea of the parents. I just about ended up heading to see someone who was a scammer. Thank God it fell through. I see how we would be stuping to their level, but I love the idea of it.

Ihearmytrain
05-22-2007, 06:10 PM
Hey guys!!! Let's face facts, we all shoot for the stars when it comes to what our woman looks like, right? That's why we get fracked in the end! I was with a beautiful girl I met local for 6+ years. Turned out, she was as big a scammer as any FSU scammer out there, but I was blinded by her looks. Boy did she turn out to be a piece of "art"!!!(the kind of "art" you find in a baby's used diaper)

The only thing a guy can do is to keep trying. Whether it's in your own town or half a world away. Just don't let yourself get suckered in by her looks, especially on the net. I can find some pics of hot girls on the web, I'm sure Ivan can too!!! Heck, even if she IS Ivanava, the pics may not be of her.

Hey! Shoot for the stars! Just watch out for stray asteroids. And watch for the "RED FLAGS"! Most importantly, realize that even if there are no "red flags" right off the bat, and all is well, you have NEVER met this "girl". Don't let your guard down, but keep trying.

I gues to close my rant, I'll say that once you find that you are writing to a scammer, it can be fun to frack with them. Get enough crap on them and report them. Save someone else if you can.

The one that almost got me is still operating. I'm still writing to "her" and making promises. I'm getting some hot bikini pics now! Guys, the seasons in much of Russia are close to the seasons in North America. I doubt these are new photos that she took just for me!

Just more to post later! Have fun!!!


Train

Ihearmytrain
05-22-2007, 06:10 PM
Hey guys!!! Let's face facts, we all shoot for the stars when it comes to what our woman looks like, right? That's why we get fracked in the end! I was with a beautiful girl I met local for 6+ years. Turned out, she was as big a scammer as any FSU scammer out there, but I was blinded by her looks. Boy did she turn out to be a piece of "art"!!!(the kind of "art" you find in a baby's used diaper)

The only thing a guy can do is to keep trying. Whether it's in your own town or half a world away. Just don't let yourself get suckered in by her looks, especially on the net. I can find some pics of hot girls on the web, I'm sure Ivan can too!!! Heck, even if she IS Ivanava, the pics may not be of her.

Hey! Shoot for the stars! Just watch out for stray asteroids. And watch for the "RED FLAGS"! Most importantly, realize that even if there are no "red flags" right off the bat, and all is well, you have NEVER met this "girl". Don't let your guard down, but keep trying.

I gues to close my rant, I'll say that once you find that you are writing to a scammer, it can be fun to frack with them. Get enough crap on them and report them. Save someone else if you can.

The one that almost got me is still operating. I'm still writing to "her" and making promises. I'm getting some hot bikini pics now! Guys, the seasons in much of Russia are close to the seasons in North America. I doubt these are new photos that she took just for me!

Just more to post later! Have fun!!!


Train

evest43
06-12-2007, 09:13 PM
Hello All Got a "hot" one here.
This alleged russian gal got my email through yahoo personals and we started a correspondence.....As her pictures got more racier i got more concerned and happened to discover she is a well known scammer.Havent gotten to the "money " asking stage but i want to keep her occupied as long as possible.....Need some good ideas
Anybody got some good suggestions?
Below is the text of our current "love" letters:

My name is Steve , divorced, father of one, age 43 ,USA
I have been in contact with this Russian "lady" claiming to be Julia from Rostov-on-Don.
Only problem being is that i checked on the "BLACK LIST" and discovered she has been well documented as a scammer.We havent gotten to the Money asking stage yet(Thanks to your great web site)....but here is our correspondence to this point:
Letter 1: 5/26/07
----- Original Message ----
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:18:39 AM
Subject: Greetings Steve

Greetings Steve. It is pleasant to see the letter from you this fine
day. I ask to forgive to me, that is required so long to answer your
letter. I to live in the city of Rostov on Don. My city is in a
southern part of Russia, it is the regional center. You to hear about
it? Wash city up to Moscow approximately 2000 kilometers. I the doctor
on a trade, my specialization-therapy. I work in city clinic. To be
engaged reception and survey of patients, at necessity to appoint in
it treatment or hospitalization. I was born in 1973, now to me 33
years. My birthday on March, 3rd. I lived earlier in a civil marriage
with the man, but two years ago we have left. It would not be
desirable to be lonely therefore I have solved search second half of
heart. I like serious and strong attitudes. My friend I to tell to you
at once-theak to not search for entertainment, a distortion or simply
virtual friend without an opportunity of a meeting in the person. I do
not like simply casual communications so me to bring up parents. It
would be desirable a quiet life with the favourite person, strong
attitudes. As any woman I to want happiness, it would be desirable to
love and be favourite, to give caress and to care of the beloved. In
people I to appreciate sincerity and kindness of soul, to not love lie
and a deceit, we shall hope honesty with each other. Pleasantly that I
to meet you, hope we to learn better each other, and probably to
develop feelings. And you were married earlier, have children? I to
not have children, I consider that children should be brought up by
loving parents, there should be a strong family. And I had no never
enough serious attitudes to reflect on a birth of the child. At me
quiet and kind character. Good to you of day to hope to see the answer
from you. Tell about itself. When your birthday? What to wish to see
in the woman? What character at you? You like travel or to prefer a
house cosiness? A favourite hobby? Who you by a trade? I love rest on
the nature and travel. It is pleasant to read love novels, to visit a
cinema at leisure. I like to visit museums and exhibitions. I am
engaged fitness, I am pleasant like a figure in the good form:) If to
want that that still to learn about me-ask, I with pleasure shall be
more story about myself. To send you my photos, I hope you too will
send your photos. I not strongly to understand in a computer. Also
asked the manager the Internet of cafe to find to me the man for
acquaintance. And it has found to me your address.I shall expect the
letter from you. Acquaintance to you is pleasant, I hope it will
proceed. While. Julia
This women/scammer is very sincere and convincing .Fellas beware!!!
Letter2 : 5/27/07
----- Original Message ----
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:29:17 PM
Subject: Good afternoon Steve

Good afternoon Steve. Now to go a rain here and little bit cool
weather. To me very pleasantly our acquaintance. I probably to do it
is a lot of mistakes in the letter, I ask to excuse me for it. I
studied English language at school, and then during study in
institute, but infrequently to have dialogue on it. To hope you to
understand my letters. I wish to tell to you. I had some time back
dialogue the Internet with the man from Canada. It has written to me,
has told that searches for attitudes with the woman. We have got
acquainted. But after several letters it has started to send obscene
photos, and to demand from me the naked photos. And in letters has
started to write only about sex, and offered virtual sex through the
Internet, it is nonsense. Correspondence with it Was necessary to
stop, I to think it frivolously-is simple entertainment through the
Internet. I to tell to you about it because to not wish to have
secrets from you. And it is more to allow you to understand of me. To
me to be simple it would not be desirable lonely. And you had many
attitudes through the Internet, they were serious? I to see recently
transfer on TV, about that that now some people in the world to be
engaged a deceit through the Internet of the attitude. It is bad to do
a deceit on love and feelings. To hope you never will simply a joke or
games with me. I to hope you honesty with me, I also to promise what
never to speak a lie to you. We adults the man and the woman, also our
dialogue will hope serious and opened. It is a pity that I do not have
now phone. Two weeks ago I to go to the bus from work, in that put I
was very long it is borrowed on work. There were many patients and the
labour shift was necessary to be late after the termination. I to sit
down in an armchair the bus and for a short while to fall asleep from
weariness. And when has woken up-has seen that have stolen my handbag.
It was very insulting, loss the monthly salary and a mobile phone. It
would be desirable to hear you in the future. I shall think to save
gradually, I shall get phone later and then we can speak. The truth it
is necessary to save long, on purchase phone it is necessary to spend
the monthly salary. I on work have phone, but in it service of the
international communication as such calls expensively cost and it is
impossible to borrow service phone for a private use is disconnected.
I wish to tell to you about my habits. I to not smoke. On a holiday to
dare to drink it is a little wine or beer. I like to sit in the
evening on a sofa, to esteem the book the beautiful novel. In the
morning I usually to do gymnastics. To be engaged fitness. As I to
speak you I was earlier in a civil marriage. But when we to live about
half a year I has learned that at mine men are the mistress. Was very
sick to hear such. It has told to me about it, has told that we need
to leave, and has left to it. This girl was more younger than me and
probably seem to it more attractive. But will suffice about it. The
life in fact proceeds. Here I to not meet any more the man with whom
it was possible to connect destiny, basically they to want from the
woman only sex and entertainments. But in fact it is impossible to
have a good time all time? The Life passes, all we become more senior,
it would be desirable simple heat and a cosiness. I to think
appearance it not the main thing, in fact all people to grow old in
the course of time. For me in the person the main kind heart quiet
character and beauty of soul. To me pleasantly meeting you, also is
pleasant our dialogue. I write to you from the Internet of cafe, it is
public item of access to the Internet. I can not while to get a
computer therefore it is necessary to come here. And you to have a
computer of the house or also use the Internet of cafe? To send you
still my photos, I hope they like you. While. While. Julia
GREAT SET-UP here acknowledging scams and such....great fiction???
Letter 3: 5/28/07
Greetings Steve. Now I go from work, has come the Internet of cafe to
check up mail from you. It is pleasant to see that you to write to me.
Me you have liked a photo which to send in the last letter, with
interest to look at you. Today fine weather. I now to come into city
park, to take a walk a little on it. Pleasantly walk after the working
day. On work all patients to come about a pain and illnesses, and for
the working day to receive weariness. Pleasantly then after work walk
on fresh air to have a rest. In park to play music, to walk many
people. I liked walk today. My friend, and what music is pleasant to
you? I like to listen to a jazz, also it is pleasant to dance under
cheerful music. Sometimes I to like to listen classical music. I like
and be able to prepare, it is pleasant to prepare for exotic salads
from fruit, dishes from meat and a fish. Basically I to prepare for
national dishes. And what dishes like you? You are able to prepare?
Tell to me about your city, it beautiful? My city big, here is lived
more than 800 thousand by person. I live in an apartment which I rent.
My parents live at two o'clock driving from my city, sometimes in the
day off I to go to visit them, or they to come to me on a visit.
Parents on the pension now, is pleasant to them a life in small
village. And I am pleasant like at them, there the beautiful nature,
silence and pure air. I like rest in village after a life in the big
city. But at me happens only one or two target days in a week, and
work without days off sometimes is necessary when it is required to
change whom that of colleagues. Therefore infrequently it is possible
to visit parents. Or sisters I to not have brothers so to turn out
that I one child in family. And you have sisters or brothers, how your
parents? My city is on coast of the river Don. It is the beautiful
river, I am pleasant like in the summer walk on a boat, to look the
beautiful nature. And you like to go on the river, to receive rest at
water? You often to happen in other cities? Than you today to be
engaged? Tell to me if not a secret, it is interesting to learn as you
spend day. While. To wish you it is pleasant to lead day.
Nice touch throwing in the parents , she had me believing at this point
Letter 4: 5/30/07
Good afternoon Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to
me. In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the
greater turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody
will allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is
authorized to accept and send mail only. It is pleasant to receive the
letter from you. With pleasure to read it and to present you my
friend. You there is nothing I to name you my friend? I like to
communicate with you so it is interesting to receive your letters, to
learn better you. It so is interesting. A little unusually, in fact
you so it is far from me. Several years ago I and present not could
that I shall when that to have dialogue with the man from other
country. I to think of you sometimes during work. How your mood today,
than will be engaged? At me on work today was a few patients, it is
possible to tell that an easy labour shift. Now I went to shop, to do
purchase of products. To wish to go now home, to make a supper, to
have a rest a little. And in the evening probably again I shall come
to check up mail from you. To hope you will write to me in the
evening. To wish you pleasant day my friend. To send you a photo, to
hope to like you. While.Julia

This stuff is really convincing

Letter 5: 5/30/07

Greetings Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to me.
In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the greater
turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody will
allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is authorized to
accept and send mail only.It is very pleasant to receive the letter
from you. I pleasure when see your letters, and to give pleasure to me
their perusal. You interesting the man, are absolutely unlike which
men I to meet earlier. Basically I to hear the offer from men to lead
together night. But I do not like such attitudes. Yes it and not
attitudes and is simple employment sex. The woman likes caress and
heat in attitudes more, pleasant dialogue with the man which is
pleasant. I like dialogue with you, you are unlike other men from my
last life. No, them was a little. I how to speak-not I love fleeting
novels, I like constant attitudes therefore I had no many men with
which was close. I to recollect now a youth then there was the
cheerful time, any cares. And then I did not reflect at all on the
future. Pleasure by a life Was pleasant to be young. But now I
absolutely on another to think about a life. The silent and quiet
life, a cosiness in the house Would be desirable. At me quiet and
house character, probably therefore to me is pleasant to spend time at
home more. Sometimes I to leave with girlfriends on walk, it is a
little to have fun. But it infrequently to go right. Often it is
necessary to work for six days in a week for 8-10 hours for a labour
shift. Sometimes I weariness so what to not remain time to make a
supper. Then it is necessary to prepare what for that a semifinished
item, for example a pizza. And when to come the day off it is
necessary many to have time to make all. Cleaning of an apartment,
washing. It is necessary to descend shops, to do shopping to fill a
refrigerator. The lovely friend, do not think that I to complain of a
life. Simply I tell as I spend days, in fact to learn is better the
person it is necessary to know not only what its character and
hobbies, but also and interesting to know as passes its life.
Therefore I and to ask you is frequent as you to lead day. If to you
it is uninteresting such to listen-tell, write that to interestingly
you to learn about me. Good to you of day my friend. I shall expect
the letter from you. While.Julia
Letter 6: 5/31/07
Good afternoon Steve . Pleasant day today. With pleasure to read your
letter, to present you and me these ideas are pleasant. I now after
work have come into shop, purchase of products. Packages with products
heavy, and I to get tired while now to reach to the Internet of
cafe.Today in the morning I to receive the telegram from parents, mum
to write that tonight they to arrive to visit me. Badly that tomorrow
in the morning I need to go for work, and parents will leave in the
morning. But I that some hours will be possible to lead pleasure with
them in the evening. I to not meet parents about three weeks, and to
miss them. I now to wish to carry purchases home. And then to go on
station, to wish to meet parents when they to arrive on the bus.
Excuse to me it is time. If parents will lay down to have a rest, I
shall come later to check up mail from you. Send me a photo. Tell that
interesting to occur to you today. Good-bye. Yours Julia
Letter 7:
Good afternoon my friend. I ask to forgive to me for silence. I leaved
from city. Went to parents. Has lead with them some days. It was very
pleasant rest. We left in a wood, to do rest on the nature. I to be
expiated in the mountain river. It is very good to have a rest. Missed
dialogue with you these days. I now only go about the bus. It is
necessary to carry home a bag with things. I shall try to come again
in the evening in the Internet, to check up mail from you. While.
Pleasant to you of day. Your Julia
I only have stopped to read your letter. Greetings Steve . To me
becomes warmly and pleasantly in heart when I to receive your
messages. I to hope you to not hold on me insult for long silence. But
I had no place to find access the Internet when I to go to parents. I
thought of you today all the day long. I to get tired today on work a
little, but is so tired to write to you my darling. Do not think that
I immodesty the woman, easier to not wish to hide feeling. I to start
to cling you. I reflect now why it to occur. Probably from for that
that you unusual and very attractive the man. Which you write letter
bring pleasure in my heart. I to start to think of you is frequent. At
the last night you to dream me, and I to wake up with sensation of
such ease in heart. It is a pity that you to not live in my city. And
we cannot a meeting today. With pleasure it would be desirable to meet
you, to sit for a cup of coffee in the evening, to talk, take pleasure
in dialogue. Kiss you the darling. I shall think of you in this
evening, to hope you also to reflect on me sometimes. Tell to me. I to
like you though it is a little? It would be very pleasant to Me to
hear the positive answer from you. Do not think that I to be imposed
to you my darling with my silly love. Simply I strongly emotional,
also have decided to not hold in myself that that I feel to you. Yes.
To not forget to tell Nearly to you. When to come parents I to speak
them about our dialogue. In fact they are interested as to pass my
private life, and I have not got used to hide anything from native. I
the favourite daughter at them, and also strongly to love the native
people. I to tell that I communicate with you, and did not begin to
hide that you to like me. Parents to send the regards to you and warm
attitudes. The whole again. Yours Julia
LETTER 8:
My darling Steve. Now the late evening here. Has come to write to you.
It is pleasant to see the letter from you. You such lovely and young
on a photo. Which I to send a photo to you I to do in my city. Today
day on work was difficulty. It is a lot of patients. I weariness
strongly. Has come home, to take a shower and has fallen asleep. Has
just now woken up, and has decided to go to the Internet of cafe to
write to you. My kiss for you. To close eyes now, and to touch with a
sweet kiss you in my dreams. To hope you also to close eyes, and to
feel my sweet kiss. You seem to me an ideal of the man, at you kind
heart and fine Character, you are strong and during same time I to
feel in you tenderness. It seems to me That I know you very much for a
long time. To me easily and pleasantly to write to you letters, and
mine Heart gently fights when I read your warm messages. Never earlier
I did not test such inclination to the man. Both my inclination and
tender feelings to you to become more strongly with each my morning
awakening. You in my sweet dreams and dreams. The whole also I love
you. To give you my gentle embraces and warm attitudes. To expect with
love the warm message from you. While. Yours Julia
LETTER 9:
It does me happy reception of letters from you my darling. Greetings
Steve. I fall in love with you my darling, and I hope that you fall in
love with me also. I hope you will be trust to me. Without trust there
can be no attitudes. I hope, that you have good day today. I hope that
you can test warm and tender feelings to me, same as I to test to you
favourite. I dream of you and your love to me. On work I today had a
few troubles. One woman has come to me on reception. At it were
suspicion on an allergy or an infection, it is I structure, and I to
direct it to pass inspection at other experts. In fact my trade
therapy. The woman has started to be indignant, speak that I
incompetence because to not appoint to it treatment. I to understand
that it experience from for the illness. But in fact I to make all
that is necessary in such cases. This patient has gone to complain of
me to our chief of clinic. It has come to check up my actions, has
confirmed my actions. After inspection there was that at this woman an
infectious disease. I was right, but it has not come to apologize at
all for that that the insult me. To me to become so it is insulting
today, there are such people which worry only about itself and it
nothing to cost to offend whom that without the reason. It not the
first case, but I try to forget somewhat quicker about such moments.
Has now come to write to you favourite. All troubles happened in the
afternoon I to forget and think only of you and to represent you in
dreams. The whole and adoration you. I dream to feel your warm body
against mine, and the whole your damp sweet lips. While favourite. Now
I shall go home. Probably a little I shall return later to check up
mail from you. It would be desirable to see the message from you
favourite in this evening. Yours Julia
LETTER 10:

Favourite Steve. With impatience I dream of day when we shall meet for
the first time you. When our eyes meet for the first time, I be able
to see love in your eyes. I hope that it can occur in the future. You
do me by the happiest person in the huge world. I dream of you every
night my love. Feelings in my heart are very strong for you my
favourite. My love to you becomes stronger with each new letter which
I read from you. And my small heart to belong to you. I love and I
grieve without you very much. My most The big desire to nestle on you
my lovely and favourite and to present you all My love. To see you and
then to feel in your gentle embraces-most sweet my dream. I hope, that
we can have a long life together. I would like to make love very much
to you mine the beloved, to wish to have passionate love to each other
all the night long without a break. It is a few immodesty of dream
probably, but I really to want it. I love you my favourite and I shall
wait for your following letter of love. The whole it is passionate. I
close eyes and see your fine eyes. While. Yours Julia

LETTER 11:
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:22:52 PM
Subject: Greetings favourite Steve

Greetings favourite Steve . Has come to write the Internet of cafe to
you now. I to see at the girl which to sit next to me the chamber, I
to ask it to photograph me at a computer. The girl has agreed, to do a
picture me, and now I to send it to you favourite. To hope this photo
to like you favourite. Than you employment in today? To happen that
that interesting? My day today has been borrowed by work, there were
many patients. I a few weariness. To wish to go now home, to accept a
warm bath, it weakens after difficulty of day. I like to add in water
foam about aroma of the sea or roses. It so is pleasant to close eyes
and present itself on seacoast. I shall think and dream of you the
darling. I love also tenderness attachment to you mine the man. All my
warm attitudes to you my darling the man. My name Julia Rebrov. My
address. The country Russia. The city of Rostov on Don. Street
Krasnoarmejskaja 15. An apartment 10. The Postal index 344000. But I
live in an apartment which I rent, therefore to have the right to
accept mail only owners an apartment. Therefore it is not necessary to
send anything, I most likely cannot this reception. The whole also I
love. To expect with love the letter you. Yours Julia
LETTER 12:
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Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
ViewTuesday, June 12, 2007 9:24:22 AM
My darling Steve . Hello. Today in Russia Day of independence is
marked. It is the big holiday. City today very elegant. In streets it
is a lot of people. We with girlfriends to get tickets for a
celebratory concert. It should begin in one hour. We now shall go
there. I have come into the Internet on pair minutes. Girlfriends
expect me now. All is good at me in this fine day, walk on city and
pleasure a holiday would be desirable. To hope you also it is good to
lead this day. My warm wishes to you my friend. You with me in ideas
today. I shall write Tomorrow to you more detailed letter. I hope you
also will write to me. Pleasant to you of day. The whole also I love.
While. Julia
....................More to follow .................................................. .......
I intend on keeping this foul scammer occupied for as long as possible...I have just replied that I need to come to her as soon as possible.Will keep you informed.....
...................More to follow .................................................. .......

Steve F., USA

evest43
06-12-2007, 09:13 PM
Hello All Got a "hot" one here.
This alleged russian gal got my email through yahoo personals and we started a correspondence.....As her pictures got more racier i got more concerned and happened to discover she is a well known scammer.Havent gotten to the "money " asking stage but i want to keep her occupied as long as possible.....Need some good ideas
Anybody got some good suggestions?
Below is the text of our current "love" letters:

My name is Steve , divorced, father of one, age 43 ,USA
I have been in contact with this Russian "lady" claiming to be Julia from Rostov-on-Don.
Only problem being is that i checked on the "BLACK LIST" and discovered she has been well documented as a scammer.We havent gotten to the Money asking stage yet(Thanks to your great web site)....but here is our correspondence to this point:
Letter 1: 5/26/07
----- Original Message ----
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:18:39 AM
Subject: Greetings Steve

Greetings Steve. It is pleasant to see the letter from you this fine
day. I ask to forgive to me, that is required so long to answer your
letter. I to live in the city of Rostov on Don. My city is in a
southern part of Russia, it is the regional center. You to hear about
it? Wash city up to Moscow approximately 2000 kilometers. I the doctor
on a trade, my specialization-therapy. I work in city clinic. To be
engaged reception and survey of patients, at necessity to appoint in
it treatment or hospitalization. I was born in 1973, now to me 33
years. My birthday on March, 3rd. I lived earlier in a civil marriage
with the man, but two years ago we have left. It would not be
desirable to be lonely therefore I have solved search second half of
heart. I like serious and strong attitudes. My friend I to tell to you
at once-theak to not search for entertainment, a distortion or simply
virtual friend without an opportunity of a meeting in the person. I do
not like simply casual communications so me to bring up parents. It
would be desirable a quiet life with the favourite person, strong
attitudes. As any woman I to want happiness, it would be desirable to
love and be favourite, to give caress and to care of the beloved. In
people I to appreciate sincerity and kindness of soul, to not love lie
and a deceit, we shall hope honesty with each other. Pleasantly that I
to meet you, hope we to learn better each other, and probably to
develop feelings. And you were married earlier, have children? I to
not have children, I consider that children should be brought up by
loving parents, there should be a strong family. And I had no never
enough serious attitudes to reflect on a birth of the child. At me
quiet and kind character. Good to you of day to hope to see the answer
from you. Tell about itself. When your birthday? What to wish to see
in the woman? What character at you? You like travel or to prefer a
house cosiness? A favourite hobby? Who you by a trade? I love rest on
the nature and travel. It is pleasant to read love novels, to visit a
cinema at leisure. I like to visit museums and exhibitions. I am
engaged fitness, I am pleasant like a figure in the good form:) If to
want that that still to learn about me-ask, I with pleasure shall be
more story about myself. To send you my photos, I hope you too will
send your photos. I not strongly to understand in a computer. Also
asked the manager the Internet of cafe to find to me the man for
acquaintance. And it has found to me your address.I shall expect the
letter from you. Acquaintance to you is pleasant, I hope it will
proceed. While. Julia
This women/scammer is very sincere and convincing .Fellas beware!!!
Letter2 : 5/27/07
----- Original Message ----
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:29:17 PM
Subject: Good afternoon Steve

Good afternoon Steve. Now to go a rain here and little bit cool
weather. To me very pleasantly our acquaintance. I probably to do it
is a lot of mistakes in the letter, I ask to excuse me for it. I
studied English language at school, and then during study in
institute, but infrequently to have dialogue on it. To hope you to
understand my letters. I wish to tell to you. I had some time back
dialogue the Internet with the man from Canada. It has written to me,
has told that searches for attitudes with the woman. We have got
acquainted. But after several letters it has started to send obscene
photos, and to demand from me the naked photos. And in letters has
started to write only about sex, and offered virtual sex through the
Internet, it is nonsense. Correspondence with it Was necessary to
stop, I to think it frivolously-is simple entertainment through the
Internet. I to tell to you about it because to not wish to have
secrets from you. And it is more to allow you to understand of me. To
me to be simple it would not be desirable lonely. And you had many
attitudes through the Internet, they were serious? I to see recently
transfer on TV, about that that now some people in the world to be
engaged a deceit through the Internet of the attitude. It is bad to do
a deceit on love and feelings. To hope you never will simply a joke or
games with me. I to hope you honesty with me, I also to promise what
never to speak a lie to you. We adults the man and the woman, also our
dialogue will hope serious and opened. It is a pity that I do not have
now phone. Two weeks ago I to go to the bus from work, in that put I
was very long it is borrowed on work. There were many patients and the
labour shift was necessary to be late after the termination. I to sit
down in an armchair the bus and for a short while to fall asleep from
weariness. And when has woken up-has seen that have stolen my handbag.
It was very insulting, loss the monthly salary and a mobile phone. It
would be desirable to hear you in the future. I shall think to save
gradually, I shall get phone later and then we can speak. The truth it
is necessary to save long, on purchase phone it is necessary to spend
the monthly salary. I on work have phone, but in it service of the
international communication as such calls expensively cost and it is
impossible to borrow service phone for a private use is disconnected.
I wish to tell to you about my habits. I to not smoke. On a holiday to
dare to drink it is a little wine or beer. I like to sit in the
evening on a sofa, to esteem the book the beautiful novel. In the
morning I usually to do gymnastics. To be engaged fitness. As I to
speak you I was earlier in a civil marriage. But when we to live about
half a year I has learned that at mine men are the mistress. Was very
sick to hear such. It has told to me about it, has told that we need
to leave, and has left to it. This girl was more younger than me and
probably seem to it more attractive. But will suffice about it. The
life in fact proceeds. Here I to not meet any more the man with whom
it was possible to connect destiny, basically they to want from the
woman only sex and entertainments. But in fact it is impossible to
have a good time all time? The Life passes, all we become more senior,
it would be desirable simple heat and a cosiness. I to think
appearance it not the main thing, in fact all people to grow old in
the course of time. For me in the person the main kind heart quiet
character and beauty of soul. To me pleasantly meeting you, also is
pleasant our dialogue. I write to you from the Internet of cafe, it is
public item of access to the Internet. I can not while to get a
computer therefore it is necessary to come here. And you to have a
computer of the house or also use the Internet of cafe? To send you
still my photos, I hope they like you. While. While. Julia
GREAT SET-UP here acknowledging scams and such....great fiction???
Letter 3: 5/28/07
Greetings Steve. Now I go from work, has come the Internet of cafe to
check up mail from you. It is pleasant to see that you to write to me.
Me you have liked a photo which to send in the last letter, with
interest to look at you. Today fine weather. I now to come into city
park, to take a walk a little on it. Pleasantly walk after the working
day. On work all patients to come about a pain and illnesses, and for
the working day to receive weariness. Pleasantly then after work walk
on fresh air to have a rest. In park to play music, to walk many
people. I liked walk today. My friend, and what music is pleasant to
you? I like to listen to a jazz, also it is pleasant to dance under
cheerful music. Sometimes I to like to listen classical music. I like
and be able to prepare, it is pleasant to prepare for exotic salads
from fruit, dishes from meat and a fish. Basically I to prepare for
national dishes. And what dishes like you? You are able to prepare?
Tell to me about your city, it beautiful? My city big, here is lived
more than 800 thousand by person. I live in an apartment which I rent.
My parents live at two o'clock driving from my city, sometimes in the
day off I to go to visit them, or they to come to me on a visit.
Parents on the pension now, is pleasant to them a life in small
village. And I am pleasant like at them, there the beautiful nature,
silence and pure air. I like rest in village after a life in the big
city. But at me happens only one or two target days in a week, and
work without days off sometimes is necessary when it is required to
change whom that of colleagues. Therefore infrequently it is possible
to visit parents. Or sisters I to not have brothers so to turn out
that I one child in family. And you have sisters or brothers, how your
parents? My city is on coast of the river Don. It is the beautiful
river, I am pleasant like in the summer walk on a boat, to look the
beautiful nature. And you like to go on the river, to receive rest at
water? You often to happen in other cities? Than you today to be
engaged? Tell to me if not a secret, it is interesting to learn as you
spend day. While. To wish you it is pleasant to lead day.
Nice touch throwing in the parents , she had me believing at this point
Letter 4: 5/30/07
Good afternoon Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to
me. In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the
greater turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody
will allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is
authorized to accept and send mail only. It is pleasant to receive the
letter from you. With pleasure to read it and to present you my
friend. You there is nothing I to name you my friend? I like to
communicate with you so it is interesting to receive your letters, to
learn better you. It so is interesting. A little unusually, in fact
you so it is far from me. Several years ago I and present not could
that I shall when that to have dialogue with the man from other
country. I to think of you sometimes during work. How your mood today,
than will be engaged? At me on work today was a few patients, it is
possible to tell that an easy labour shift. Now I went to shop, to do
purchase of products. To wish to go now home, to make a supper, to
have a rest a little. And in the evening probably again I shall come
to check up mail from you. To hope you will write to me in the
evening. To wish you pleasant day my friend. To send you a photo, to
hope to like you. While.Julia

This stuff is really convincing

Letter 5: 5/30/07

Greetings Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to me.
In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the greater
turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody will
allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is authorized to
accept and send mail only.It is very pleasant to receive the letter
from you. I pleasure when see your letters, and to give pleasure to me
their perusal. You interesting the man, are absolutely unlike which
men I to meet earlier. Basically I to hear the offer from men to lead
together night. But I do not like such attitudes. Yes it and not
attitudes and is simple employment sex. The woman likes caress and
heat in attitudes more, pleasant dialogue with the man which is
pleasant. I like dialogue with you, you are unlike other men from my
last life. No, them was a little. I how to speak-not I love fleeting
novels, I like constant attitudes therefore I had no many men with
which was close. I to recollect now a youth then there was the
cheerful time, any cares. And then I did not reflect at all on the
future. Pleasure by a life Was pleasant to be young. But now I
absolutely on another to think about a life. The silent and quiet
life, a cosiness in the house Would be desirable. At me quiet and
house character, probably therefore to me is pleasant to spend time at
home more. Sometimes I to leave with girlfriends on walk, it is a
little to have fun. But it infrequently to go right. Often it is
necessary to work for six days in a week for 8-10 hours for a labour
shift. Sometimes I weariness so what to not remain time to make a
supper. Then it is necessary to prepare what for that a semifinished
item, for example a pizza. And when to come the day off it is
necessary many to have time to make all. Cleaning of an apartment,
washing. It is necessary to descend shops, to do shopping to fill a
refrigerator. The lovely friend, do not think that I to complain of a
life. Simply I tell as I spend days, in fact to learn is better the
person it is necessary to know not only what its character and
hobbies, but also and interesting to know as passes its life.
Therefore I and to ask you is frequent as you to lead day. If to you
it is uninteresting such to listen-tell, write that to interestingly
you to learn about me. Good to you of day my friend. I shall expect
the letter from you. While.Julia
Letter 6: 5/31/07
Good afternoon Steve . Pleasant day today. With pleasure to read your
letter, to present you and me these ideas are pleasant. I now after
work have come into shop, purchase of products. Packages with products
heavy, and I to get tired while now to reach to the Internet of
cafe.Today in the morning I to receive the telegram from parents, mum
to write that tonight they to arrive to visit me. Badly that tomorrow
in the morning I need to go for work, and parents will leave in the
morning. But I that some hours will be possible to lead pleasure with
them in the evening. I to not meet parents about three weeks, and to
miss them. I now to wish to carry purchases home. And then to go on
station, to wish to meet parents when they to arrive on the bus.
Excuse to me it is time. If parents will lay down to have a rest, I
shall come later to check up mail from you. Send me a photo. Tell that
interesting to occur to you today. Good-bye. Yours Julia
Letter 7:
Good afternoon my friend. I ask to forgive to me for silence. I leaved
from city. Went to parents. Has lead with them some days. It was very
pleasant rest. We left in a wood, to do rest on the nature. I to be
expiated in the mountain river. It is very good to have a rest. Missed
dialogue with you these days. I now only go about the bus. It is
necessary to carry home a bag with things. I shall try to come again
in the evening in the Internet, to check up mail from you. While.
Pleasant to you of day. Your Julia
I only have stopped to read your letter. Greetings Steve . To me
becomes warmly and pleasantly in heart when I to receive your
messages. I to hope you to not hold on me insult for long silence. But
I had no place to find access the Internet when I to go to parents. I
thought of you today all the day long. I to get tired today on work a
little, but is so tired to write to you my darling. Do not think that
I immodesty the woman, easier to not wish to hide feeling. I to start
to cling you. I reflect now why it to occur. Probably from for that
that you unusual and very attractive the man. Which you write letter
bring pleasure in my heart. I to start to think of you is frequent. At
the last night you to dream me, and I to wake up with sensation of
such ease in heart. It is a pity that you to not live in my city. And
we cannot a meeting today. With pleasure it would be desirable to meet
you, to sit for a cup of coffee in the evening, to talk, take pleasure
in dialogue. Kiss you the darling. I shall think of you in this
evening, to hope you also to reflect on me sometimes. Tell to me. I to
like you though it is a little? It would be very pleasant to Me to
hear the positive answer from you. Do not think that I to be imposed
to you my darling with my silly love. Simply I strongly emotional,
also have decided to not hold in myself that that I feel to you. Yes.
To not forget to tell Nearly to you. When to come parents I to speak
them about our dialogue. In fact they are interested as to pass my
private life, and I have not got used to hide anything from native. I
the favourite daughter at them, and also strongly to love the native
people. I to tell that I communicate with you, and did not begin to
hide that you to like me. Parents to send the regards to you and warm
attitudes. The whole again. Yours Julia
LETTER 8:
My darling Steve. Now the late evening here. Has come to write to you.
It is pleasant to see the letter from you. You such lovely and young
on a photo. Which I to send a photo to you I to do in my city. Today
day on work was difficulty. It is a lot of patients. I weariness
strongly. Has come home, to take a shower and has fallen asleep. Has
just now woken up, and has decided to go to the Internet of cafe to
write to you. My kiss for you. To close eyes now, and to touch with a
sweet kiss you in my dreams. To hope you also to close eyes, and to
feel my sweet kiss. You seem to me an ideal of the man, at you kind
heart and fine Character, you are strong and during same time I to
feel in you tenderness. It seems to me That I know you very much for a
long time. To me easily and pleasantly to write to you letters, and
mine Heart gently fights when I read your warm messages. Never earlier
I did not test such inclination to the man. Both my inclination and
tender feelings to you to become more strongly with each my morning
awakening. You in my sweet dreams and dreams. The whole also I love
you. To give you my gentle embraces and warm attitudes. To expect with
love the warm message from you. While. Yours Julia
LETTER 9:
It does me happy reception of letters from you my darling. Greetings
Steve. I fall in love with you my darling, and I hope that you fall in
love with me also. I hope you will be trust to me. Without trust there
can be no attitudes. I hope, that you have good day today. I hope that
you can test warm and tender feelings to me, same as I to test to you
favourite. I dream of you and your love to me. On work I today had a
few troubles. One woman has come to me on reception. At it were
suspicion on an allergy or an infection, it is I structure, and I to
direct it to pass inspection at other experts. In fact my trade
therapy. The woman has started to be indignant, speak that I
incompetence because to not appoint to it treatment. I to understand
that it experience from for the illness. But in fact I to make all
that is necessary in such cases. This patient has gone to complain of
me to our chief of clinic. It has come to check up my actions, has
confirmed my actions. After inspection there was that at this woman an
infectious disease. I was right, but it has not come to apologize at
all for that that the insult me. To me to become so it is insulting
today, there are such people which worry only about itself and it
nothing to cost to offend whom that without the reason. It not the
first case, but I try to forget somewhat quicker about such moments.
Has now come to write to you favourite. All troubles happened in the
afternoon I to forget and think only of you and to represent you in
dreams. The whole and adoration you. I dream to feel your warm body
against mine, and the whole your damp sweet lips. While favourite. Now
I shall go home. Probably a little I shall return later to check up
mail from you. It would be desirable to see the message from you
favourite in this evening. Yours Julia
LETTER 10:

Favourite Steve. With impatience I dream of day when we shall meet for
the first time you. When our eyes meet for the first time, I be able
to see love in your eyes. I hope that it can occur in the future. You
do me by the happiest person in the huge world. I dream of you every
night my love. Feelings in my heart are very strong for you my
favourite. My love to you becomes stronger with each new letter which
I read from you. And my small heart to belong to you. I love and I
grieve without you very much. My most The big desire to nestle on you
my lovely and favourite and to present you all My love. To see you and
then to feel in your gentle embraces-most sweet my dream. I hope, that
we can have a long life together. I would like to make love very much
to you mine the beloved, to wish to have passionate love to each other
all the night long without a break. It is a few immodesty of dream
probably, but I really to want it. I love you my favourite and I shall
wait for your following letter of love. The whole it is passionate. I
close eyes and see your fine eyes. While. Yours Julia

LETTER 11:
From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:22:52 PM
Subject: Greetings favourite Steve

Greetings favourite Steve . Has come to write the Internet of cafe to
you now. I to see at the girl which to sit next to me the chamber, I
to ask it to photograph me at a computer. The girl has agreed, to do a
picture me, and now I to send it to you favourite. To hope this photo
to like you favourite. Than you employment in today? To happen that
that interesting? My day today has been borrowed by work, there were
many patients. I a few weariness. To wish to go now home, to accept a
warm bath, it weakens after difficulty of day. I like to add in water
foam about aroma of the sea or roses. It so is pleasant to close eyes
and present itself on seacoast. I shall think and dream of you the
darling. I love also tenderness attachment to you mine the man. All my
warm attitudes to you my darling the man. My name Julia Rebrov. My
address. The country Russia. The city of Rostov on Don. Street
Krasnoarmejskaja 15. An apartment 10. The Postal index 344000. But I
live in an apartment which I rent, therefore to have the right to
accept mail only owners an apartment. Therefore it is not necessary to
send anything, I most likely cannot this reception. The whole also I
love. To expect with love the letter you. Yours Julia
LETTER 12:
My darling SteveStandard Header|Full Message View
Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by>
ViewTuesday, June 12, 2007 9:24:22 AM
My darling Steve . Hello. Today in Russia Day of independence is
marked. It is the big holiday. City today very elegant. In streets it
is a lot of people. We with girlfriends to get tickets for a
celebratory concert. It should begin in one hour. We now shall go
there. I have come into the Internet on pair minutes. Girlfriends
expect me now. All is good at me in this fine day, walk on city and
pleasure a holiday would be desirable. To hope you also it is good to
lead this day. My warm wishes to you my friend. You with me in ideas
today. I shall write Tomorrow to you more detailed letter. I hope you
also will write to me. Pleasant to you of day. The whole also I love.
While. Julia
....................More to follow .................................................. .......
I intend on keeping this foul scammer occupied for as long as possible...I have just replied that I need to come to her as soon as possible.Will keep you informed.....
...................More to follow .................................................. .......

Steve F., USA

cmiia
06-12-2007, 10:56 PM
I couldn't even be bothered to type the stuff out!!.

It's just the usual story any blindman could see through.

The answer is simple. Tell hewr to get lost, delete her emails and get a life!!.

cmiia
06-12-2007, 10:56 PM
I couldn't even be bothered to type the stuff out!!.

It's just the usual story any blindman could see through.

The answer is simple. Tell hewr to get lost, delete her emails and get a life!!.

PeopleSmoks
01-13-2008, 03:17 PM
I miss bach1685. His simplictic approach to every situation is so child like and refreshing to those of us who sometimes do silly little things like... THINK.

The truth is, all one needs to do is paste a letter here. You don't need to type the whole thing out, but I'm sure most people here already figured that out.

So, evest43, if you're still around, how is it going with your play time with the scammer? I usually will do the same. It can be fun, as well as educational to a certain degree. It gives a person a chance to veiw how the scam scenario progresses. Then, when you go back and reread the earlier letters, (if you haven't deleted them in a whimsical bout of shortsightedness) you can start to see the signs of the scam that you hadn't before.

Train returns

Pufeut
12-12-2013, 10:02 AM
Ihearmytrain, love the idea of the parents. I just about ended up heading to see someone who was a scammer. Thank God it fell through. I see how we would be stuping to their level, but I love the idea of it.

well its not actually stuping to their level, its fighting fire with fire :o

cALI112778
05-06-2015, 11:56 AM
Hi ,

I have a been scammed out of 600 buck last weekend still pissed about it. I have an alternative email address as well and the same scammer is trying the same shitty thing on that one- doesnt realize its the same person. What should I do ???? HELP