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PeopleSmoks
02-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Greeting and salutations to all!

Here in the US, we tend to give nicknames to almost anything. The term "cougar" is originally a reference to slightly older, but still very beautiful and sexy women, in their 30s or 40s, on the prowl for a man.

I hope to raise some awareness of the "scam cougars". These are scam artists who are in their 30s or 40s and have matured a bit, and perfected their "art". I tend to believe that these are mostly individuals, and not necessarily a guy named Boris, but real FSUWs.

Their scam scenarios tend to be more believable in that they don't search for a guy 20, 30, or 50 years older than they are. Let's face it, we all should be aware that an 18 yo student isn't really looking for love from a 44 yo guy! But, an attractive 35 or 40 yo woman sounds about right for a 44 yo guy, and is very believable!

This is the danger!!!! These scammers are often very cunning. They have played this game for a while and have learned what to say and HOW to say it to make themselves believable. Like a cougar, these women are true preditors![:0][8D]



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swede
02-23-2008, 09:15 PM
You're probably right as to, that they are private, "real" women. That's at least my firsthand experience. As to being cunning I think, they don't differ so much from younger generations of FSUW. But there will probably be a bigger part gold-diggers/prodaters in this age group, because of the competition with younger girls.

So the scam techniques used will be different

The older women will more often be axpected to "deliever" and can't in any case play the role of playboy bunny. I saw some examples of this kind of women in AU, where men passed regularly through their lives.
Such women often have some social facade to keep up, preventing them from taking the step to "escort" girls.

PeopleSmoks
02-23-2008, 11:27 PM
quote:But there will probably be a bigger part gold-diggers/prodaters in this age group, because of the competition with younger girls. In many ways, I don't see the younger girls being so much competion for the "cougars". An 18 yo searching for a guy 18 to 75 compared to a 35 yo searching for a guy 35 to 45, is like comparing a hillbilly with a sawwed-off shotgun to a professional sniper.

Maybe I give these "scam cougars" too much credit for their cunning, but I really don't think I'm too far off the mark. I see them as being like any true preditor. They have the patience and acquired skills to stalk their prey effectively. Of course, like any preditor, they will always go for an easy kill, when the opportunity presents itself.

I see you as being far from a fool, but at the same time, you can't believe that just because a woman is over 50 that she CAN'T be a "scam cougar". I feel it's the thought that a woman of this age group almost has to be legitimate is the greatest danger, and the cougar's greatest advantage.
quote:The older women will more often be axpected to "deliever" and can't in any case play the role of playboy bunny. Depending on exactly what you mean by "deliver", I would tend to think the contrary, at least in sexual terms, which is often the ploy of the younger scammers. Sure, a 50+ yo may employ her sexuality, but not overtly imply having sex. Seductive, yet dignified!

What would a man like you go for? A beautiful woman who may engage you in occassional playful innuendo and ambiguous banter, while also discussing world events and what she did yesterday, or a child who tells you she loves you, and how much she wants to 'beep' you after her third e-mail?[:0]

As for "Playboy" bunnies, maybe not, but have you seen Jane Seymour lately? She is still one one the most beautiful women I have ever seen, and she's over 60!!!![:p] And Ivana Trump is still looking pretty darn good too!!! I'm sure you can think of other 50+ yo total babes???[8D]

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swede
02-23-2008, 11:48 PM
I'm a bit on thin ice here from lack of enough evidence. So I'll abstain from having too fixed opinions.

But I'm not trying to make the group of FSUW around 50 better, considering that most of my contacts have been with this group and it's been a mixed pleasure.

Maybe it's a personal question of age. I would feel very insecure with the younger generation women, whom I consider rather emptiheaded.

PeopleSmoks
02-24-2008, 02:19 AM
Actually swede, I think that the 50+ age group may in fact be better, percentage wise as far as real women are concerned. I think th actual percentage starts to go up around the 40 yo age group and increases with the age of the ladies in general.

My point is that this also creates a bit of a situation where guys start to think, "Well, the young ones are the scammers, a 50 yo lady wouldn't be invovle in that sort of affair!" And this is what I believe makes the scam cougars that much more dangerous. It is a mentally matured man who seeks a woman closer to his own age, and thus may be a bit less suspicious of a woman 5 years his junior than he would of a child young enough to be his daughter, or maybe even grand-daughter claiming to have fallen in love with him.

I know you have a few years on me, and have been around the block, so to speak, once or twice. Maybe you've even painted some of the lines in the road, but it's the pothole you didn't notice that blows out your tire and sends you into the curb!

My whole thing for starting this thread about "scam cougars" is to take note of what I see as a real danger from a seemingly not so dangerous age group in the FSU, and something we've talked about elsewhere, what seems like a more reasonable age gap of 10 years or less.

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swede
02-24-2008, 07:15 PM
Cit PeopleS:

"I know you have a few years on me, and have been around the block"

I'm greatgrandfather badger compared to you (not that this makes me any wiser). And I certainly have been around not only the block, but also the bend couple of times.

My reason for uncertainty about this subject isn't so much lack of information of the cougars, but rather of the younger generation. Thus I have no possibility to compare the two groups.

Though there is one aspect of dating, which is general. The age'ally disqualified (old buggers like me), tend to make less fuss about physical intimacy (whether intimacy is a startingpoint for a relationship or a later consequense). Young women's coy'ness and manteaser games disappear more or less after 50 years of age.

Personally I can (and I'm not an agressiv dater) ask a woman after one or a few contacts: "You want include physical contact also", and take the answer without any akwardness from any of us. It's like talking about a physical need, like eating, peeled of social taboos.

This doesn't imply any cynism, one-night-stand attitude or shallowness. It's more a: "We're too old and have seen these games too many times, so let's get to the point". Besides the hormonal systems of men decline over the years, while women generally get more interested as their experience grows. So the sexes will meet more at the same level in this direction, than earlier in life.

I believe these observations are valid both for western and FSUW, and it can explain the 50 or more generation women's disinterest in nude photos etc. There's no need or interest in games.On the other hand a woman from this agegroup will, once she's made up her mind, go directly from theory to practise in a few hours concerning physical intimacy. So this group is in one way more "available", both if they are seeking serious relationships or are scammers.

And this point makes the approach of different agegroups very different.

PeopleSmoks
02-25-2008, 10:57 PM
quote:...and it can explain the 50 or more generation women's disinterest in nude photos... I would imagine that most self-respecting women, regardless of age, would tend to shy away from sending nude photos of herself to a total stranger. Although, I had a girl who turned out to be a scammer come right out and tell me not to expect things like that from her. Talk like that will make the scammer seem a bit more legitimate, as opposed to the girl who sends you full on nude pics with her second letter!
quote:Personally I can (and I'm not an agressiv dater) ask a woman after one or a few contacts: "You want include physical contact also", and take the answer without any akwardness from any of us. Actually, I've always done this. 9 out of 10 times I get slapped in the face, or dirty looks, but that 1 out of 10... WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!![:o)]

You see, some of what you've said here, is exactly what I mean about the "scam cougars". They aren't stupid slightly post-pubescents who only can think of luring a victim by using sex. The "scam cougars" are matured mentally!

These scammers post ads looking for men not drastically older than themselves. Sounds reasonable. They don't send nude photos. Sounds respectable. Maybe a little cleavage, or snug fitting evening dress photo. Sexy, but not trampy. They answer questions and engage in real e-conversations about varied subjects. They may only work a couple of victims at a time, and will remove their profiles from the site to give you a sense of exclusivity with them. They may write to you for months before going for the pay-off. Or they may just wait for you to come to them and then go into gold-digger mode.

As I say, I see these scammers as being more intelligent, cunning and patient than the average 18 to 25 yo scammer.[V]

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swede
02-25-2008, 11:38 PM
General agreement.

Anthony Ferrara
02-26-2008, 02:03 PM
Ditto Smoks and Swede!!

Tone

sheikhiu
10-29-2016, 10:25 PM
Haven't encountered with a cougar yet but I think would be quite interesting.