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    Dear Compatible One -

    I just saw that this post was recently responded to and find it interesting that you question why I am here. That is actually a really good and thoughtful question! Finally!!! The reason that I searched this out is that the director of the website (from Heartafire.com) sent out an email a while back to all of her past clients asking us if we'd mind writing a note of endorsement to add to her agency's website explaining that there were people on the internet who are slamming her agency and she was very upset and not knowing what to do to counter the criticism. Thus, I wrote my endorsement as I had a terrific experience and keep in contact with many other couples from the same agency that also had positive experiences. Then I went to Google and found this post slamming her. Thus I responded. So there you have it.

    Dear Ham,

    Aha! at least now you are being real and telling (what appears to be) the truth. All that complete bull**** that you were saying about being a millionaire and a rocket scientist was so amusing. Glad to see that you are coming clean and you appear to be much more real now. Good luck to you in your search. However, one word of advice: it appears that you are immensely distrustful of the internet dating game. Why don't you join a club in your local area and meet girls that way. Of course, MOST girls want to be given gifts and taken out and enjoy having their dates spending money on them. If you don't want to do this and you think it is akin to prostitution - you are at a major disadvantage because that is just how it is ... internet or not. If you joined a local club or organization of interest to you, you'd probably much more successful at finding someone who has similar values.

    Good Luck!

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    quote: All that complete bull**** that you were saying about being a millionaire and a rocket scientist was so amusing.
    Actually I always make fun of the concept (see old posts ), but if YOU say otherwise...ah, there was a clown's face icon at the end of the post mr. Holmes.

    quote: Thus, I wrote my endorsement as I had a terrific experience and keep in contact with many other couples from the same agency that also had positive experiences. Then I went to Google and found this post slamming her. Thus I responded. So there you have it.
    Eh?
    Who if not parties with vested interests would bother to google a brand name or service they had used to subsequently counter dissent?
    Hell, do you like it? Good for you, but someone might not with his reasons not to.

    quote:The reason that I searched this out is that the director of the website (from Heartafire.com) sent out an email a while back to all of her past clients asking us if we'd mind writing a note of endorsement to add to her agency's website explaining that there were people on the internet who are slamming her agency and she was very upset and not knowing what to do to counter the criticism.
    So you can write a testimonial, and that is it.



    quote:However, one word of advice: it appears that you are immensely distrustful of the internet dating game. Why don't you join a club in your local area and meet girls that way. Of course, MOST girls want to be given gifts and taken out and enjoy having their dates spending money on them. If you don't want to do this and you think it is akin to prostitution - you are at a major disadvantage because that is just how it is ... internet or not. If you joined a local club or organization of interest to you, you'd probably much more successful at finding someone who has similar values.
    Well, yes, I left WWW/LD dating behind me years ago.[^]
    Too many imposters and conpeople.

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    Dev1, thanks for the comments. In any case, you never know who is behind all this writing and at the same time you never know what is true and what is not. Personally I think this forum is useless. You never know what is true. No matter what people write here, still there is a lot of lie going on. And even you Dev1, you say one thing, but who knows what the real situation is.
    Also, I hope you have not forgotten to visit other 50 forums where they talk about this agency, have you?

    Cheers

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    quote:Personally I think this forum is useless.



    care to explain on which grounds?
    Which forums would be useful, then?
    Forums to me are useful only in exposing trends and schemes in scamming, irrespective of any colorful personality or absolute truth.
    When I was scammed, there was little (if any) awareness, but forums such as these are helping to fix this problem.
    People need at least an informed, fair warning; then, it's their problem.
    During these years I have visited many of these MOB forums; many are dead or quiescent.
    The very few that are still active (EG RWG, RMP, PL ) invariably end up as private lounge for a clique of bizarre individuals with colorful personalities and often agendas, who love to hear themselves bray.
    In the end, like old RWG, you had (as subsequently admitted by their buddies ) people like agency owners making big money basically acting as resident gods of these forums, escorted by a retinue of sociopaths in need of belonging and back-patting.
    These cliques of weird people blow very contrived stories up about themselves...the old RWG clique loved the motto "band of brothers" and delighted in soothing their chipped shoulders with iconic concepts like "tablets of stone" and whatever.
    Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal, Sid Justice, Hulk Hogan and Bolo Yeung all in a room couldn't sport all that attitude and machismo...pfft!
    There you find the donkeys who love to bray; the true losers whose reckoning takes place via cable; the clowns with glamorous jobs, billions in the bank and "just awesome" lives...
    By the way, one of the old RWG pundits was an agency owner, but CLAIMED to be a big ticket cardiologist (or whatever medical ) as well.
    Yet he was busy shilling at 3000 posts a year on some tier-IV website, orchestrating very graphic mud slinging contests with other aliases...[)]
    PFFT![B)]

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    Hello Compatible One,

    You have the reasoning of a bright person and you intelligently and astutely express your thinking. I appreciate that. About your comment: the reason that I didn't reply to any other posts slamming that website is because this post came up first on my search and I unwittingly became engaged in such a ridiculous and inane argument from Ham (and, unfortunately, am still getting sucked into it now as you can see from my continual writing. LOL) that I figured I was just spinning my wheels with someone who is obviously a liar - which makes our rapport inconsequential and, therefore, us both total losers. So I figured I would get the same from most of the other posts so I didn't even bother searching out any more.

    There are many good and worthy people in the world and also lots of nutty, ridiculous, idiotic, angry, frustrated and nasty people in the world, too. The only reason I replied to this is because YOU wrote something that made sense and posed an interesting question. I wish you good luck in your search and remember that there are scammers, malicious and bad people not only on websites but also at your local grocery store, local bar and even at your church ... but there are also LOTS of good and altruistic people too - I would suggest not to let your suspicions get the best of you until you give someone a chance and really listen to what the facts are. For example, if you and your brother get into an argument, it is likely that you both saw it in different ways. It is the same everywhere - people have different ideas of what is proper etiquette or behavior.

    This has become just a waste of my time as I'm not getting anything out of it - but I thought that expressing a different side of the story would help others who are thinking about using that particular website - or any dating website for that matter. If this helps them, then good for them, maybe they will find their mate, or maybe their mate is in their local grocery store or wherever. If not, then so be it. I am tired of defensive writing and hope that everyone finds love like I did. Most of the time, if you allow love to come - it finds you. This is the last post I will ever write about it so take care and goodbye. All I can say is that I found love and I am happy. As for Ham, you sure seem to me to be an angry and mixed up person - I hope you find a good counselor before you try to get into a relationship so that if you ever find a person that is a good fit with you, you don't screw it up. Goodbye.

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    quote:As for Ham, you sure seem to me to be an angry and mixed up person - I hope you find a good counselor before you try to get into a relationship so that if you ever find a person that is a good fit with you, you don't screw it up. Goodbye.


    PFFT!
    quote:Thus, I wrote my endorsement as I had a terrific experience and keep in contact with many other couples from the same agency that also had positive experiences. Then I went to Google and found this post slamming her. Thus I responded. So there you have it.
    Go back to google & find some other forum to "defend" your agency on.
    What do you call THAT?
    Minimum wage telemarketing?
    Well...you can always ask your cousin at NASA to endorse your application...trading up is good[)]
    Funny you use the word "liar" besides when you're shaving in front of a mirror.

    But thanks for your kind words of concern...
    Please urgently PM the address of YOUR psychiatrist...hoping that he will be able to help ME better than he did YOU.[B)][]


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    Wow. I say I am out of this forum at all. Usually forums like that are to help each other and most of the people on this site are just mean. Oh, and by the way Dev1. I am not looking for anyone. I have been in a relationship for pretty long time now, measured in years and well, I am not looking for anyone. I am just pretty much involved in this whole dating thing, am a matchmaker from Ukraine and (well, I have this feeling that you are also a matchmaker as well, but I will keep this opinion for myself)as I already said in this forum it was a bit pity to see the sad faces of the guys when girls turned them off, but now as I read how you guys are talking to each other.......wow, I should not be sad, you all deserve what you guys have, just mean people. I would add something, but I guess I have nothing else to say, so have fun guys, it is a "good place" to spend most of your time at. regards

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    quote: Wow. I say I am out of this forum at all. Usually forums like that are to help each other and most of the people on this site are just mean. Oh, and by the way Dev1. I am not looking for anyone. I have been in a relationship for pretty long time now, measured in years and well, I am not looking for anyone. I am just pretty much involved in this whole dating thing, am a matchmaker from Ukraine and (well, I have this feeling that you are also a matchmaker as well, but I will keep this opinion for myself)as I already said in this forum it was a bit pity to see the sad faces of the guys when girls turned them off, but now as I read how you guys are talking to each other.......wow, I should not be sad, you all deserve what you guys have, just mean people. I would add something, but I guess I have nothing else to say, so have fun guys, it is a "good place" to spend most of your time at. regards

    you are interesting.
    Aren't you "hooked" anymore?
    Well, before we discuss how your clients might (or might not ) be losers, misfits or other "it's the other guy who's the real loser" claim, I'd appreciate if you explained why did you accept them as clients? I mean, it's like a drug counsellor thinking druggies are scum.

    Second, I suppose you (as any dating dealer or vendor for that matter ) made promises to them, that you could (at least to a telling extent ) control the dating game, to secure them a positive outcome...otherwise why would they hire YOU?
    What about those commitments/promises?
    I see that perhaps you think that if a man aces it, it's your doing; if he fails, then he's a loser/misfit who gets what he deserves.

    Third, you forgot to mention any "good" forum.

    I don't mind people thinking the worst of me, but I suggest they buy a mirror some time.

    quote have fun guys, it is a "good place" to spend most of your time at. regards
    Well, if YOU thought this place was worth spending YOUR time at, it MUST be ok...[)]

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    Hi Ham. I will reply to your letter part by part.

    You say: you are interesting.

    I say: thanks, I am happy you like me.

    You say: Aren't you "hooked" anymore?

    I say: What the heck do you mean? You know, if you want people to understand what you are saying you should give some feedback to the subject you are referring to. The same applies to those "MOB" and "WWW/LD" that you write every once in a while. People should know what it means. It does not matter that you probably have give the explanation to it, but people are not going to read all of your comments to get to the point. Okay? The same applies to your question. What the heck do you want to ask me?

    You say: Well, before we discuss how your clients might (or might not ) be losers, misfits or other "it's the other guy who's the real loser" claim, I'd appreciate if you explained why did you accept them as clients?

    I say: man, no logic in your words at all. First of all I did not say they were losers, did I? Prove it to me! I wrote that they deserve it, but I did not say they were losers. To deserve something to happen with you and being a loser is not the same, is it?

    You say: Second, I suppose you (as any dating dealer or vendor for that matter )

    I say: It is not market to you. We DON"T sell anyone, so choose the right words.

    You say: I suppose you (as any dating dealer or vendor for that matter )made promises to them, that you could (at least to a telling extent ) control the dating game, to secure them a positive outcome...otherwise why would they hire YOU?

    I say: Do you write some kind of fairy tails or what? Do you know all the facts? NO! So why do you say that I made some kind of promises? ARE YOU AN IDIOT OR SOMETHING???????? NO! I guess you are just a blabber who likes to talk but never gives any facts, just some stupid thoughts, and no facts.

    You say:What about those commitments/promises?

    I say: You must be freaking kidding me once again. What kind of commitments are you talking about? I find you really strange man. I am sorry.

    You say:I see that perhaps you think that if a man aces it, it's your doing; if he fails, then he's a loser/misfit who gets what he deserves.

    I say: here is a deal. My opinion: if you have no brains and make wrong priorities, then it is YOUR problem, not someone else's, then SURE THING YOU DESERVE IT BUDDY. Tell me if I am wrong here.

    You say: Third, you forgot to mention any "good" forum.

    I say: I did not forget because I was not going to. Do you have some problems with your English? Or you just like to make stuff up????

    You say: Well, if YOU thought this place was worth spending YOUR time at, it MUST be ok...

    I say: well, it is always good to know the audience if you know what I mean. But I realized that this place is just a waste of time and there is nothing new that I did not know.

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    quote:I say: man, no logic in your words at all. First of all I did not say they were losers, did I? Prove it to me! I wrote that they deserve it, but I did not say they were losers. To deserve something to happen with you and being a loser is not the same, is it?
    you are right.
    You said "mean people", that is people with "bad" attitudes, and perhaps -just perhaps- "bad" attitudes come from "bad" psychology? Just asking.
    you all deserve what you guys have, just mean people

    What the heck do you mean? You know, if you want people to understand what you are saying you should give some feedback to the subject you are referring to. The same applies to those "MOB" and "WWW/LD" that you write every once in a while. People should know what it means. It does not matter that you probably have give the explanation to it, but people are not going to read all of your comments to get to the point. Okay? The same applies to your question. What the heck do you want to ask me?

    Answer:

    Somebody save me, I am addicted to this forum now. Do they add some kind of cocain in the air from the PC's cooler? Gosh, to hard to leave the place.

    Is the above post yours? If so (prove, prooove, proooove it to meeeee! [)] ), I wondered why were you leaving so soon...
    You are right.
    Acronyms like WWW or MOB haven't been around for more than a decade...I made them up myself...you couldn't know.[)]

    I say: Do you write some kind of fairy tails or what? Do you know all the facts? NO! So why do you say that I made some kind of promises? ARE YOU AN IDIOT OR SOMETHING???????? NO! I guess you are just a blabber who likes to talk but never gives any facts, just some stupid thoughts, and no facts.

    So I buy an aspirin because it is supposed to make an headache go away; I hire a beautician to have my nails fixed, but you (as a service provider) make no promise. Why would people hire you then, if not to improve their odds at dating? Pretty weird. [xx(]
    " Facts ", which "facts"?
    I may be an idiot, but you sound like a teenager on booze with hyperactive disorder...

    We DON"T sell anyone, so choose the right words.


    And I am having problems with MY English? Boy oh boy! You do not "sell people" (as in human trafficking ), but SELL TO PEOPLE (A SERVICE) (aren't you a dating dealer? ).

    I say: I did not forget because I was not going to. Do you have some problems with your English? Or you just like to make stuff up????

    Ah...first you mention something, but then won't name it. Very good. I may be an idiot, but there ARE bigger ones.[)]

    I say: well, it is always good to know the audience if you know what I mean. But I realized that this place is just a waste of time and there is nothing new that I did not know.

    Oh, yes...I'm afraid you won't find any client here, sorry.

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