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    thank you very much...

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    Hey guys,

    Wow, what a great forum on CC. I have learned a lot, not shocked at all. Originally I used the Ukraine CC, but then I sensed something was fishy. I too talked to "elena G" the 1586. She never answered any of my questions and the emails were messed up!!! I got an email from one girl describing how she saw a chipmunk cross the street and everyone in the town was watching it grab food. I thought the translator or the girl whoever it was, was stoned!!!!! Whatever they were smoking, I need some of it!!!

    Then I went to the Argentine version: Fiancee connections. I contacted the 6 girls I have been talking to first, never the ones that contacted me. I speak to 4 regularly. I am 31 years old, and I am a good looking guy, I just do not want to date american women anymore, and I am willing to do what I must so I do not have to. I will not go into it. Anyway, the girls I speak to, I believe it is them. They answer every one of my questions, sometimes it takes a couple of days, they apologize, but I find them consistent in their personality. One of them says she gets mail from old guys all the time, and she does not reply...these girls are like regular girls, they want someone close to their age. One girl when I wrote her did not know that the agency was charging me so much. She told me to stop writing!!! She felt guilty that I had to pay to write, but when I said for her to go somewhere else, she said, the agency provides free internet and everything for her. These girls think of it like a free cyber cafe. So I do not think one of the "translators" would say that I should not write or write less! Also I asked for more photos of her, and I have not got them for a long time, she always apologizes, you would think the agency would be all over that sending those photos knowing I would pay for it, but she has been busy with school and has not had time. Another girl I write to ALOT, we fight and argue about things all the time, we are very blunt. She is also snobby she will not pay any man any attention unless he is good looking. I am the kind of guy these girls would date if I was there and they were here. She says whatever she wants, even if I do not like it, and she always runs the risk that I decide to never write her again because I do not like what she is saying. She tells me when I piss her off. Could it all be bull****...yes...but I just do not think so. I am going down to Buenos Aires, I can speak spanish okay, not great but okay, so I think I have a lot going for me, in seriously getting one of these girls. I have a list of 10, I think I will be getting atleast one. One girl I wrote I was honest, I asked her "Are you ready to meet me, and maybe move to a strange foreign country?" She said, that I would have to move to Argentina....then when I wrote her and told her reality, she realized she was not ready to do all this, and she quit the Agency, and her profile was taken down!!! So again guys, I think I am taking to the real ladies here. But remember this is the Argentina branch.

    My take on the company...is that like any company they are trying to make money. That is probably their mission statement. They overprice everything, and probably do not give service that deserves what they charge. You must keep in mind, if a girl is not interested, she is not interested, there is nothing you can do, you can not cry to the agency and blame them. It is not there problem you are a fat old ugly bastard and they have to bribe girls to date you, that is your problem. HAHA I am joking...seriously if you know you are playing with fire, and you are willing to take chances, then I say go for it, knowing full well that you may get screwed...it is a possibility...the greater the risk the greater the reward .....but if by some chance there is one girl you meet there that would make a perfect wife, you still think all that would not be worth it? Would you tell that to her, "I am sorry, all the crap I had to go through, everything I paid, in my finding you, it was not worth it." Overall, I think the russian, ukrainian women are AMAZING. I just wish it was easier to get one. Atleast with these Argentine Girls, I know their language....I just know one word in russian "Privet", which means hello. I have ukrainian friends, and Argentine friends. I would love to go to the Ukraine, but If so, my friend would introduce me to a nice one, not some whore. Well maybe save the whores for another day! HAHA[8D] The problem we all have, is that we have no control over what happens, the agency has all the control and all of our money, and that frustrates us, aggravates us. I am going to buy 1 week of a trip with the agency in Buenos Aires, and then I will have my own hotel for the rest of my time there. What is a $1400 in my lifetime...if I can get something back so much more. It is a gamble to be sure, but sometimes gentleman when you are in the casino you have to roll the dice. Sometimes you get comp'd, sometimes you are playing Russian Roullette[)], sometimes you lose everything, and sometimes you beat the house and win (rare, odds are against you, but people do it).

    If anyone has been to Fiancee Connections in Argentina, please advise me, I am serious about picking out a girl down there, atleast out of the 4 that I talk to regularly. Any advice aside from the obvious "Don't go, your going to get screwed", would be appreciated. Email me with advice about FC, Argentina, and how I should plan my trip.

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    If anyone has been to Fiancee Connections in Argentina, please advise me, I am serious about picking out a girl down there, atleast out of the 4 that I talk to regularly. Any advice aside from the obvious "Don't go, your going to get screwed", would be appreciated. Email me with advice about FC, Argentina, and how I should plan my trip.
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    Hello.
    Have a look at this site. !
    www.confidentialconnections.net.. Note the NET.
    A lot of it is about Fiancee Connections scamming.
    Have to spoken to any of the girls in FC, Argentina ? On the phone or by video link ? Have you received any photos of them at their homes, or work, or along their city street, or have they all been studio pic's. ? Do they give you any contact details or must everything go through FC. ?
    Don't forget that FC is owned and run by CC. ! If they are an outright SCAM in Russian why would they be any different in Argentina ? Likewise if they are genuine in Argentina why not in Russia ?
    I have written long messages to 'Sergey' in CC and asked many leading questions, cut and pasted bad reports from Forums, sent him the above URL, and asked him to answer everything, but he refuses. He just says "Oh thats our competition trying to undermine our operation". ! I wrote him several times, but all I get is the same answer. He will never answer properly because he has no answers. What organisation would receive such allegations, and thats what they are, from a customer who is spending $1000's and not try to answer those allegations ? I could go on and on, and post here masses of very dubious letters from girls on CC, but just about everything that needs to be said has already been said, so CC are an outright SCAM and the chances of them being legitimate in Argentina are -01% I intend to sue them for my money and have already engaged a lawyer in the USA to do just that. !
    Good luck to you anyway.

    The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.

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    Hello dreamers!
    I'm new here and I will tell you (very shortly) my story. Comments are most welcome
    I was married to a woman from Kharkov for 10 years. I met her trough Scanna in 1994-1995. After the divorce I went on the internet to find a new russian wife. As you understand, the divorce was not due to cultural differences. Many things has changed since 1995 but I got hooked on the CC agency. There are scammers of cours, but after a few mails, most of them can be rooted out. As people on this site has said, the first few letters from the girls seem to be written by the agency in most of the cases. But after that you get real contact with the women. It's real contact and communication, questions answered and so on.
    A close relative of mine died and on the spur of the moment I decided to go to Ukraine in October to get away from everything. It was naturally not the first time I was there, so I organized the whole trip on my own. This didn't sit well with the CC agency. I didn't use there vastly overpriced services.
    They flatly refused to give me the adress to their office in the city! I couldn't believe it. The woman I was supposed to meet, refused to meet me at the hotel, which is understandable. It's not reputable for a woman to do that and I think that CC brainwashing also played a part. In brief I spent 4 lonely days there. In retrospectiv it was a good thing. My mindset was not favouring a new relationship, I was still in mourning.
    Just like some of you guys, I have also been in contact with Daria P. for many months (it was not her I was going to meet). The first few letters were impersonal but now it's real communication between real people. She sends lots of photos and her younger sister has also joined the agency. She is very frank about having met many men through the agency. She proclaims to not having found the right one though. I'm planning to go there again, maybe in June, to pay her (but not only her) a visit. This time I will book some things thru the agency, and I will see what happens.
    It's of course not cheap, but I'm not sure it's more expensive then wining and dining a woman in your own country for a year, only to find out you're not ment for each other.
    Stay positive! Karl

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    quote:Originally posted by Karl

    Hello dreamers!
    I'm new here and I will tell you (very shortly) my story. Comments are most welcome
    I was married to a woman from Kharkov for 10 years. I met her trough Scanna in 1994-1995. After the divorce I went on the internet to find a new russian wife. As you understand, the divorce was not due to cultural differences. Many things has changed since 1995 but I got hooked on the CC agency. There are scammers of cours, but after a few mails, most of them can be rooted out. As people on this site has said, the first few letters from the girls seem to be written by the agency in most of the cases. But after that you get real contact with the women. It's real contact and communication, questions answered and so on.
    A close relative of mine died and on the spur of the moment I decided to go to Ukraine in October to get away from everything. It was naturally not the first time I was there, so I organized the whole trip on my own. This didn't sit well with the CC agency. I didn't use there vastly overpriced services.
    They flatly refused to give me the adress to their office in the city! I couldn't believe it. The woman I was supposed to meet, refused to meet me at the hotel, which is understandable. It's not reputable for a woman to do that and I think that CC brainwashing also played a part. In brief I spent 4 lonely days there. In retrospectiv it was a good thing. My mindset was not favouring a new relationship, I was still in mourning.
    Just like some of you guys, I have also been in contact with Daria P. for many months (it was not her I was going to meet). The first few letters were impersonal but now it's real communication between real people. She sends lots of photos and her younger sister has also joined the agency. She is very frank about having met many men through the agency. She proclaims to not having found the right one though. I'm planning to go there again, maybe in June, to pay her (but not only her) a visit. This time I will book some things thru the agency, and I will see what happens.
    It's of course not cheap, but I'm not sure it's more expensive then wining and dining a woman in your own country for a year, only to find out you're not ment for each other.
    Stay positive! Karl
    WOW. ! You went all that way and then CC refused to give you the address of their office. ?? !!!!!!!!! AND, your still going back ? [:0] WOW again. ! Incidently aren't all the office addresses on the web site. ? I just tried to look but their site is down again, and has been down several days this week .
    The only thing about wining and dining a girl in your own country is that it will more than likely 'not' take a year to decide your not compatible ? ! Having said that the russian women are of course superior in every way. []
    Anyway you seem to have had a real tough time. Got yourself a girl from Ukraine then divorce after 10 years. ! Seems like 10 years is quite a long time to then get divorced, however there are so many things in a marriage that can make or break it. Then loosing a close relative was also very tough. Are you quite sure your doing the right thing by going back to Ukraine again, in view of your previous 10 year experience ? Only you will know this, but if it were me I would have real 2nd thoughts about doing it again. ? Certainly I would NEVER do it through CC. ! They would be my LAST choice as there many other agencies to pick. ! Anyway, the best of luck in your endevours, and hopefully you will eventually find the right girl.

    The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.

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    Well I found # 4287 on a russian personal site, like a match dot com for Ukranine. The log in says that she has not visited it since September of this year. she uses a slightly different spelling of the name there. I thought that I might refer to this name to give her a clue if I write again. I may travel to Ukraine this March. I have a Ukranian friend here whose family is in Donetsk, and he has invited me to accompany him on a visit to them. I checked the russian personals for that area, and there are several attractive ladies listed from there. If I could contact them, my friends family would check her out and tell me truthfully what kind of a girl she is. I think that is the best way rather than the agency.

    Robert
    quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

    Robert,

    Kind of funny in a way eh? So, you still going in March? Let's fly together and see what happens! LOL It would be fun....Do this, write Valusha (sp?) and say you want to visit her the first week of March. I will do the same and see what happens. I have 10 credits left and am going to write one sentence letters to them...saying...

    I am coming to visit you the first week of March; are you available?

    I will see what kind of a response I get and will happily post them here. I am sure the CC staff..head crook...reads these things too. I wish that there was more that we could do to stop others from having this problem in the future.

    Jim

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    Silver,

    Same girl is interested in me. I found her personal site in russian personals. Perhaps you could contact her directly. If I were you I would not go from the looks of things. Sure, I am wanting things to happen too. But we both need to be realistic and not let this desire take us over like an addictive drug. Can you imagine your disappointment if you recieve the same treatment as some of the men have reported here? I would have trouble bearing it. Then to spend days in a country where you don't speak the language, heart broken and alone, God, sounds like a kind of hell to me. How about post an ad in the local news paper where she lives, mention her name and give a contact info so she can write directly to you? I don't know whatthe answer is. But I do know to take care with your heart.

    I just went through it with a domestic girl. 28 years old, tall, blonde, stunningly beautiful, more beautiful than the Russian and Ukrainian girls I have seen, but she is very obnoxious and abusive, spoiled and destructive. She says she loves me, and we were engaged, but she was so mean I couldn't take it, so I had to break the engagement. I feel foolish, but I had developed an addiction for her. She still calls me tells me she loves me, and tries to get stuff, money etc, out of me. Be careful, that kind of stress can make your remaining days on this earth living hell. Irony is, all of the guys I know who have met her think that I have got it made, lol!

    Robert

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    quote:Originally posted by helskar

    quote:Originally posted by Silver

    Prometheus

    what a story...I am in shock
    Hello Silver I mailed you interesting informations about to help you clear your relationship with "Cinderela", it happens that I browse a lot...and fortunately not only on that Mad & Screwdup CC... I am expecting you to contact me[}]
    kind regards,

    Helskar
    Hello Helskar...

    I have not received any information from you...
    this is my email

    I would appreciate any information about it...

    I have not place any post because I am still in shock thinking how stupid I am..
    I spent one year at this site for nothing...

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    What are the weapons laws for Ukraine? Do you know if we can carry concealed over there? I would feel a bit naked with out something in a country where I have heard that crime is so rampant, esp. dealing with scammers. How about my carbine, in case I want to go hunting?

    Robert


    quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

    Robert,

    Kind of funny in a way eh? So, you still going in March? Let's fly together and see what happens! LOL It would be fun....Do this, write Valusha (sp?) and say you want to visit her the first week of March. I will do the same and see what happens. I have 10 credits left and am going to write one sentence letters to them...saying...

    I am coming to visit you the first week of March; are you available?

    I will see what kind of a response I get and will happily post them here. I am sure the CC staff..head crook...reads these things too. I wish that there was more that we could do to stop others from having this problem in the future.

    Jim

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    Okay, I am contacting you.
    Robert
    quote:Originally posted by helskar

    quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

    Robert,

    Kind of funny in a way eh? So, you still going in March? Let's fly together and see what happens! LOL It would be fun....Do this, write Valusha (sp?) and say you want to visit her the first week of March. I will do the same and see what happens. I have 10 credits left and am going to write one sentence letters to them...saying...

    I am coming to visit you the first week of March; are you available?

    I will see what kind of a response I get and will happily post them here. I am sure the CC staff..head crook...reads these things too. I wish that there was more that we could do to stop others from having this problem in the future.

    Jim
    How funny you are the three of you...??? just contact me and you will get the possibility to contact "her" in person...No need anymore to use the brothel of that "Great Emotional Pimp" living in New York...Mister Crook is an American citizen...!!! By the way. So may be you will see then "what kind of designs" she really has in store...for you & us. Is she existing and how many clones she has...? For sure the head crook reads these things too, and they are even a few quotes of its personal make on this site...I did wrote to Silver yesterday and did get no answer or demand since...I wander if you really want to know about her before spending time & further money... That girl in particular does write a lot...How long do you think it takes for her to write such letters even in her own native language... I think quite a bit of time...She is at least writing to four men... It must be a full time job, don't you think...?

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    I read all the latest posts with amuzement!!!! I will share a peoem I wrote with you:

    AS THE COLD WIND BLOWS

    As the cold wind blows they sit in Lugansk
    Not sewing on Nikes but faking Romance
    To Thomas and Mark they repeat the refrain
    We love you so much don?t leave us in pain
    It?s Money we need to get to your shores
    We?ll kiss and caress you, they lay it on thick
    Just go down to Paypal and get it here Quick
    As the cold wind blows they sit in Lugansk
    Not sewing on Nikes but faking Romance
    Your Hopes and Your Dreams Mean Nothing it Seems
    They tell lies to Luke and tell lies to John
    If You come to see them you don?t stand a Chance
    The boyfriend is waiting to cave your head in
    Then grab your wallet, to him it?s no Sin
    As the cold wind blows they sit in Lugansk
    Not sewing on Nikes but faking Romance



    Dedicated to Terry from Australia and Vladimir Putin, men who fought back


    Copyright Monte Phillips, LLC, USA 2006




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