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    quote:Originally posted by Glimmertwin34

    This is about Confidential Connections.

    I have been in contact with several of the ladies there and it appears that many of their letters are canned responses. Some of them will start off with the begining (first paragraph) being some what personal to me, but then the rest of the letter will go into some story about something wonderful or dreamy.

    I have also told them many times that I do not have a "weekend" because I am in the Army and in Iraq...yet, they still always ask what I will be doing "this weekend." That seems pretty unrealistic to me.

    Has anyone been in contact with the following ladies:
    #3229-Elena M
    #4016-Daria P
    #4232-Elena R
    #3964-Svetlana S
    #4287-Valyusha B.
    #1586-Elena G (she is constantly #1 in the top 100)
    #3859-Marina B

    Also, has anyone ever gone there and actually seen what their operation consists of? I was thinking about going, but really do not want to waste my time if that is what it is.

    If anyone has any information for me, please email me or post so that we can exchange information.

    Thanks
    glimmertwin
    I am communicating with Elena R #4232 and i haven't experienced things like that. She writes every day and of course some minor details slips but she remembers what she writes and replies on every question and don't avoid anything.

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    Attention:Michaelhile

    On December 31 I wrote to Irina ( 7536 ) from the Simferopol office. Do the following words sound familiar???? Valentina or the translators in Simferopol have used my words many times. Usually my words to Valentina were repeated from Irina. I stopped writing to Valentina almost 60 days ago. Now I have stopped with Irina. The scammers have no imagination. They use the words of others to continue their scam. My letter to Irina follows:




    Love has its own language. It is so much more than words. It is actions. Although we do not speak the same language fluently right now, we can communicate in the language of love. The language of love is a simple touch, the way our hands fit together, or the way I would touch your shoulder or remove a hair from your forehead. The most expressive way to communicate in the language of love may be through a kiss. If a picture is worth 10,000 words, how many words is a kiss worth? I would say millions. Through a kiss we can communicate so much. We can say hello or good bye. We can say I love you or even more important a kiss can say I need you now, or make love to me now or I want to make love to you right now. A kiss is the most expressive communication in the language of love. I think we can both be expert communicators in the language of love. So here we are, on the eve of a new year and both of us are searching for a life partner. Maybe destiny has brought us together. I am not afraid to act on my New Years resolution. I am not afraid to act on this resolution with you. Perhaps you are not expecting to hear these words from me now, but a new year is approaching. It is time to begin a new year with an important goal. So I ask again, can you help me achieve my New Year resolution?


    The Simferopol office is the center of the scam. Be cautious of the women there. That's all I can say to anyone reading these postings. I've taken myself out of the game.



    BSS

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    I am sure the rest of you guys will have your own comments and/or spins on this
    Michael
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    I am sure you can't be serious. ? Thats one of the worst letters I have read so far. (from her). Darling this, darling that, etc.etc. It will take a very long time, and a meeting or few for a real genuine Ukraine girl to talk to you like that ! That was pure scam and a 'come on' to get you to keep paying. Hopefully you are going to drop her, and UALadys. ? I have known a girl in Ukraine for over two years (3 ?) and we have a terrific relationship, letters, sms, telephone chats, ICQ, but she would never write me a letter like that one you received. ! Its not in their nature, "unless" they are scamming someone. !

    'Prometheus' said just about all that needs to be said. I agree with him completely. Its not about 'love' its all about a beautiful young girl writing to a man and making him think he is 'the' one. Its wonderful for his ego and makes his heart start thumping (as well as a few other parts too []) Since time imemorial thats been the way of men, and it will not change, and thats the reason for the success of CC and UALadys and how they make their bucket loads of money. !
    Good luck Guys, I am checking on UALadys but thats all, no letters, no replies, no nothing. I refuse to ever spend another cent. Incidently their rearranged site is pure crap. Web pages with screwed up text and unreadable stuff, and mistakes all over the place, and now pictures will not show up. ! They sure are a crap organisation.

    The truth is cheap, lies are expensive.
    Power to the People is long Overdue


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    Hello everybody, did found this on GOOGLE: STEVEN SALVESON THE PIMP'S biography...!!!CC was founded by Steven Salvesen from New York. He came first to Kharkov back in 1998 (I think) through Ben Olivares and PSI Loveyou International. I did not have the agency them and was helping Ben.
    From the beginning Steve was acting a bit strange, he did not meet any girls, he was touring around Kharkov, asking many questions. Then he visited Kharkov 2 or 3 times in 1999, became a porn star here. He was buying whores for 2-3 days, visited all possible strip joints. He lived only in KHARKOV hotel and got very bad reputation there, all prostitutes knew him...
    Eventually in the beginning of year 2000, he came too me and offered to open an office here. He said that his office will deal mostly with night-time activites. I did not want to be a pimp and I said this to him. Then he said that I will deal only with marriage-minded people and he will find another person for other things. I agreed. I gave him our webdesigner, introduced him to the director of KHARKOV hotel (where he opened an office), taught him how to open a business here in Ukraine, used my discount card to purchase all the office equipment etc etc...
    At last, he asked me to give him Natasha as a office manager (this girl was working for me through the whole 1999). He was paying her fixed salary and I should be getting the commission.
    And they started forgetting me... did not call, did not write. From some girls I got information that Natasha and Steve are spreading bull****, etc etc.. Right now I don't know if they have customers or not, do they still make sex tours or they improved... Right now Natasha is in Moscow with her sick mother and business is run by her husband Victor.
    I think if they try to keep a good reputation and avoid stupid Steve's ideas - they can give VERY good service, they have everything for this...But money comes from Steve and they do what he wants.!
    This is a story in short version about CC. [/blue][/size=6]

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    Hey Guys,
    To start off I want to thank everyone on this site for the input and information that has been shared.Thank God I had the foresight not to invest too much, a few dollars and time, but nothing substantial. I knew enough going in not to buy unlimited emails or pics or put everything on one bet. Considering a lot of this is just a crap shoot, some common sense gambling skills come in handy.
    After the last post with the identical letter I have withdrawn from CC, UA (which reminds me of urinalysis) and moving on. Thankfully I had not burned any bridges with a couple of ladies I am writing to in Odessa. With a sigh of relief and to be completely honest, not having to deal with all the B_______! from Simferopol I have a whole new outlook. I am going to Odessa next month. When I get back I will let you know how it went. In the meantime I will still continue to study the russian language and try to learn as much as possible. There are good, honest agencys in Ukraine. I highly recommend the one I am using in Odessa. Also I have found out from prior trips it is more economical and feasible to find and book your own lodging prior to going wherever you are going. Every apartment agency I have used provides free airport pickup and a lot of extra service. I have also found out that if the people in Ukraine see that you are trying to understand and learn, they will go out of their way to help. this includes everything from getting directions, to help in the stores.
    thanks again
    Michael Hile

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    Hi Michael

    I still got nothing from her - maybe she has made a choice? Is so, why not come out and explain to you what is going on?

    Dave

    quote:Originally posted by michaelhile

    Hello David,
    To my surprise I got a letter from Valentina today. Below is a copy of the letter I sent and her respons. Either she did not get my letter and prior suspicions are confirmed (someone else the letters, etc,) Or she is ignoring my concerns
    I write this letter with a great deal of caution, fear and some trepidation. Being the hopeless romantic, even when the evidence is overwhelming, I tend to always give the other person the benefit of doubt.
    But when the CC website crashed I started to look around and found out there are a few other men who are under the impression that they are exclusive in regards to your letters and attention
    They have said that you told them there were no other men you write to. You and I have talked about you writing to other men and I have never claimed exclusive rights to your attention.
    But if you are telling other men they are the only one you are writing to, maybe I should search somewhere else for my future. As in the past I do not expect an answer. I am not even sure you will get this letter.
    But I do know I am a better man for knowing you. And all of this reminds me of a few words by the poet John Greenleaf Whittier. ?For all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.?
    At this point in time I am ready to change my plans and go to Odessa instead of Simferopol. It would be uncomfortable for both of us if I showed up while you were seeing someone else.
    I guess it will be up to you from here on out.

    Hello from Moscow!
    How are you babe? I see that you were thinking of me a lot
    My dear I think that you know that On the 7th we have had a Christmas Day We had a lot of Fun with Polina!At the Eve we went to the Big theatre and there was a Christmas celebration performance...and I should tell you that it was amazing
    my darling you have to know that one day I promise to you that one day we will go together there..of course if you wish
    After that we were walking along the streets and I saw a lot of people who was begging for a help and money at that very moment I realized how lucky I am !! but I think that everything depends on people I think everyone must have a goal to achieve a for their future! My dear do you agree with me? Everything is under our control I do not respect those who do not want to do anything in their life but just complaining how difficult their lifev is Isn't it radiculous? I strongly believe that we are ctreators of our life and destiny.. I am really proud that I did everything myself, I remember that there were times when I was on the edge of frustration and I even was going to give up but there always were people who helped me a lot in my situations
    I think it is very important to have such people in our lifepeople who can be not our friends or just relatives but like psychiatrists for us!Of course it is really important to have our close people's love... you know actually love is an elusive emotion. Often people use the word love too freely. People say things like " I love chocolate" or "I love going to the seaside". I think use of the word like this is wrong. I think the proper usage is " I love you" or " I love my wife" or " I love her so much". But once true love is found it is like being in heaven or paradise. My life has been absent of love for a long time. It is time for me now to be in love again. This is why I ask for your help. I think we can attract each other and find paradise together. What do you think?
    Love has its own language. It is so much more than words. It is actions. Although we do not speak the same language fluently right now, we can communicate in the language of love. The language of love is a simple touch, the way our hands fit together, or the way I would touch your shoulder or remove a hair from your forehead. The most expressive way to communicate in the language of love may be through a kiss. If a picture is worth 10,000 words, how many words is a kiss worth? I would say millions. Through a kiss we can communicate so much. We can say hello or good bye. We can say I love you or even more important a kiss can say I need you now, or make love to me now or I want to make love to you right now. A kiss is the most expressive communication in the language of love. I think we can both be expert communicators in the language of love. So here we are, on the eve of a new year and both of us are searching for a life partner. Maybe destiny has brought us together. I am not afraid to act on my New Years resolution. I am not afraid to act on this resolution with you. Perhaps you are not expecting to hear these words from me now, but a new year is approaching. It is time to begin a new year with an important goal. So I ask again, can you help me achieve my New Year resolution?
    Well that what I was going to talk about with you
    My Polina says hell to you and remember that we are thinking about with you
    Kisses and hugs to you, your VAl

    I am sure the rest of you guys will have your own comments and/or spins on this
    Michael
    David A Desautel

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    Okay, first I must say I love you guys! Second I find it funny how everyone is referring to CC URLAdys as going to a casino in vegas, knowing full well, that the house always wins! You guys are all using my analogy. You stole my analogy!

    Second, I must say that, since I am still young, and good looking etc., the girls on these websites I Can get in the USA, in fact I flirt with 3-4 girls a week...I do not ask them out, because I can not stand their attitude, has nothing to do with how beautiful they are. Well, actually today, I did ask one of them out, and I am sure she could be on one of these websites.

    Also, When I was in New York City for NEw Years, I was at a Bar, and met an Argentinian woman, and got her info, and she is going to hook me up with her friends in Buenos Aires, she already gave me the email of one of her friends. So I am not using the Agency to book a trip to Buenos Aires. I am going to meet chicks on on my own....however, I would like to meet 4-5 of the girls I have written to.

    Snakehandler: HOW MUCH DID THE AGENCY CHARGE TO MEET A GIRL WITHOUT BOOKING THE TRIP!!!???? How many did you meet? What do you mean by them not being real??? Do you think the girls are being paid to go on dates? Which office did you go to and did the give you any hassles because you did not book a trip with them? I have noticed that alot of the girls in the Buenos Aires office are "ACtresses or in theatre", so I am thinking they just pay them to be actresses to the guys. I know the whole thing is a scam, but I want to go to their office and meet some of the chicks there, maybe some of the intepreters, I think it will be amusing, and funny!!! [)] I blew probably a $1000 on them, so what am I going to do, I might as well laugh at the gag and have fun with it. [8D] I will toss them money to meet the girls, because it will be amusing. The whole thing is an entertaining joke, you pay money to be entertained.

    BUT, I will say this, I think what is going on in the Ukraine branch is REALLY REALLY BAD!!! I think the Ukraine branch is worse than the Buenos aires branch. I think while the Argentine branch is amusing and is like a prank joke, the Ukraine branch is a full on ass raping. [}]

    So I think you guys are all right, there are problems with THE WHOLE COMPANY regardless of the branch...the problems are just different and unique depending on the branch, the office, etc.....all symptoms of a poorly run greedy company, that could make so much more money if they actually ran their company legitimately. It is sad for everyone involved. I said this before, I will say it, again, those Ukrainian women are amazing, my god, just looking at pictures, and the quality of women they are.....it is so sad that it is so difficult to get over there and legitimately find one that is not a prostitute/whore, or a scammer, through some service. So so difficult. I am going to stick with the latin ladies.

    quote:Originally posted by snakehandler

    to jackspades: i booked a cheap flight to Buenos Aires, found me a nice hotel on my own and went to the office on foot. There i met this lady.
    Maybe i should have met more. But then again Buenos Aires is just filled with nice women. Must be something in the air. But i am not too sure about how real they get on that agency. I just can't put my finger on it.
    Some girls seem sincere but you never know untill you meet them.
    But anyway Buenos Aires and the landscape of south america and the girls there are definately worth a trip. So if you want to keep it cheap just book a flight and hotel on your own. And the restaurants and everything else are not expensive.

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    I had another comment to make to somebody here who was all upset because one of his Ukraine girls that were writing to him, are writing to others. First of all, if you can write to others, so can she. Double standard anyone? Second of all, she does not know you, she has not met you, it is in her best interest, given this is not a money whore translator writing you, to write to as many men as she can. IF it is a money whore translator, then it is in their best interest to get more money! I have news to inform you of, YOU ARE NOT A SPECIAL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE!!!!! )] You could marry a girl in the united states and she can be a professional, and go to work, and cheat on you with her boss, or whatever...most of the time, girls are dating multiple guys here, everything is a gamble, the way you hedge your bets like ALL OF THE GUYS HERE HAVE ACCURATELY MENTIONED, is that YOU MUST HAVE MULTIPLE PLATES SPINNING!!!!! A minimum of 3 plates spinning, with 5 being preferred. If you can do that, you "got game".

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    quote:Originally posted by From Russia without Love


    Does anyone have positive experience with Lutsk or Kremenchuk offices?
    Dude, I'm the expert!

    I was in Lutsk. The girl I had been writing to there showed up for 5 minutes, was dead nervous and then "had to go". I never saw her again and the office staff didn't bat an eyelid, like it was normal for a fella to come 2000 miles and be blanked.

    Having said that, I did meet some other ladies that I hadn't written to at all and they seemed genuine and interested. Of course, I was a bit confused/gutted that my "intended" had gone all weird on me, so I wasn't in the mind to get romantic with someone else but I could have done. The other girls were definitely there to meet me, like a date.

    As far as "corrupt offices" go, have you noticed that the "Top 100" seems to be made up of about 20 girls each from Kharkov, Simferopol, Poltava and Zhitomir? Yes, they ARE cute but it also suggests those branches do a better job of getting men to view the ladies profiles. Odessa, Sumy, Kremenchuk.. etc. hardly get a look in, so maybe they're more pukka.

    Ralf S.

    No bullets for Chaingun

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    I found this forum after I haven't been able to log into CC after a couple of days thinking it was because of the holidays in Ukraine. So I did a google search Monday and found this and find this topic very interesting and woundering if I'm also being scamed by CC. I just got an email Jan 9-07 explaining that it is under new management company and new owner called: IISPP INC.

    This girl first contacted me on single-russian-woman.com She wrote me once there. I became a member of CC I think about the same time as the other site. She wrote to me explaining her friend left who translate the letters. I never recieved an email from CC telling me I got a letter from her. I only found out when another girl sent me a message. But anyway that was begining Febuary 06, so it has been almost a year of contact with her spending almost $1,000 over that time.

    She seems to answer my points in the emails I sent to her. Since I am at work when she writes to me I have recorded the webcams by a program to my computer and pretty sure it is her answering them. I have 3 recordings, and have noticed she is wearing the same thing in two and the other she keeps her jacket on.

    One more thing: I recieved an email from lady 1866 on Nov 8 06 and replied that I was not interested a week and some time later. Then I recieve another email from her Dec 23 06 just wanting to congratulate me with Christmas and knowleging that she knew I was not interested. Has anyone gotten something like this?

    The girl I've been talking to for almost a year is Daria S. #4252. I have seen her in the top 100 twice but near the end like 98th place just yesterday. Any one else talk to her over the last year???? CC has mistaken once by sending me an email telling me I got an email from this girl and sent me her last name as well. I also have her rambler.ru email address and sent her an email (Jan 8 07) tranlated into Russian by a program called "@promt." Have not gotten a response yet.

    If anyone wants to see the webcams I have recorded or if you have talked to her please let me know. I can also post the email that I just recieved from UALADYS.com I would be happy to share anything you would like to I can offer.

    I don't what what else to say right now so I will see what kind of responses I get from this forum from you guys.

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