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    Aug 2004

    Default sCAMM OR NOT

    Hello all

    I received some letter from a nice lady Olga and after I received from the Agency That If I am interest I have to pay for corespondence.I am sorry for my english.I hope you will copy me..
    I send a letters I want your opinion is this agency a scamm. How could I know?
    Thank you

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    Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:30:53 +0300
    From: "Olga" <veka1979@mail.ru>
    To: matkoboy@yahoo.com
    Subject: From Olga
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    My e-mail adr. : veka1979@mail.ru
    Hi, my dear friend!
    Tank you for your letter, I was very glad to receive it.
    It was very pleasant for me to know that you noticed just
    me. I suspect that first my bright appearance attracted
    your attention, but I really hope that our relations will go
    further and you will be intereted in my innner world. I
    think it is very important to see a person not only from
    his outward side, but also know what kind of person is.
    Please, forgive me if I tell something wrong, because I don`t
    have much experiance in communication in such way, actually
    I don`t have it at all. Frankly speaking this is first time
    I decided to get acquainted with the help of Internet. To tell
    you the truth, I hope to meet not simply a close friend, but
    a man who would become my future husband, a man whom I would
    trust completely, a very special person, who would love me and
    care of me, whom I would be happy to share my joys and troubles
    until the end of my life. A person, who would love, understand
    and appreciate me equally. From my side I would do my best to
    make him the happiest man on Earth. But first of all you should
    know more about me. So, my name is Olga, I am a young lady of
    twenty five. I live in Lugansk, this is one of the biggest cities
    of Ukraine. I can`t say that this is the city of my dream, but
    I live here since my early childhood and I really like it, because
    this is the city where I was born and I`ve been living for twenty
    five years already. My family is rather small, it consisits of two
    members: my Mom and I, just the two of us. Mom is already retired,
    but she continues working at a factory. I work as secretary in a
    private firm. I finished the three-year courses. My job is not
    the one I was dreaming about for all my life, but unfortunately
    I don`t have any choice. The situation in Ukraine is quite difficult,
    there are many unemployers, so as I don`t want to be one of them I
    had to agree on the job of a secretary.
    In my free time I like doing lots of things. My biggest love is
    tennis. I go in for this kind of sports since my childhood and I
    should say that I`m pretty good at it. I`m also really fond of
    watching movies, all kinds of them. As to music, my tastes
    are very different. I like Pop the same as Rock or Jazz. So, when
    I have free time, unfortunately, there isn`t much of it, I usually
    spend it going out with my friends.
    Sorry, have to go now. Hope to hear from you soon.
    Eagerly waiting for your letter,

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    Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:23:15 +0300
    From: "Olga22" <veka1979@mail.ru>
    To: "arh tadic matjaz" <matkoboy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: From Olga
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    Hello, Matko!
    It was a real pleasure for me to read your letter, I`m glad to realize
    that in you I have found a very interesting person, that is why I do
    hope that our communication will continue and develop, letting us learn
    more and more about each other. I hope, you share my opinion as to this
    point, at least I will try to do my best to make you think so.
    I guess, I will keep telling you about myself, about my life and my
    to everything in this world. This all seems so new to me, because I
    have told you
    already that this is my first try to find someone close this way and my
    first time
    using Internet in general. Call me old-fashioned, but I never really
    liked computers,
    and moreover it was pretty hard for me to believe, that someone can
    search and find
    love or friends like this.It is even more difficult for me, because I
    don`t speak
    English, and all this communication goes through an interpreter of the
    agency. But now
    I must admit that I was wrong in a way, because I have found you, and,
    though it hasn`t
    been a long time we know each other, even through letters I start to
    feel something
    for you, you know, it`s like if you were my old friend, someone I know
    for ages,
    it`s hard to explain, but I feel like with you I can talk about
    everything and get
    understanding. And this is what I appreciate in people most of all:
    ability to u
    nderstand and to support, these are the things I`m going to give to my
    future husband
    and this is what I want to get back from him.
    Actually, I can`t say that there are some exact creterias, something
    I demand from a person who I want to be with. I believe, that all two
    need is real love, and if you love, you can forgive a lot and
    understand a lot.
    In love there must be respect, trust and understanding, and then there
    is hardly
    a thing in this world, that can spoil or ruin such relationship.
    As you have probably understood, I`m a really family-oriented woman, I
    have realized that
    all I really need in life is a beloved husband, with whom we will make
    a happy family with
    children( I adore them, and I dream about being a mother). As to
    children, I`m just positive
    that to grow up happy they need both parents by their side, I`m telling
    this from my
    own experience, and I`m determined to give this to them, to give them
    everythnig and to
    leave a part of me and my beloved man in their faces and souls.
    Some people say that it can`t be romance in a family life, with
    everyday routine, like
    housework and the stuff, but I`m sure that this is the opinion of those
    who were unlucky not
    to find or to loose their feelings. As far as I`m conserned, there can
    be nothing more romantic,
    than waking up in the morning with the man you already know for years
    and to understand that with
    every passing day your love to him is just growing.
    I think it is time for me to finish right now. Well, this is the life
    and love I`m searching for,
    who knows, maybe we are looking for the same...
    Waiting for your answer unpatiently,

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    Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:25:12 +0300
    From: "Olga22" <veka1979@mail.ru>
    To: "arh tadic matjaz" <matkoboy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: From "Jelanni"
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    Dear Sir
    Thank you for using our services and your serious interest in Olga
    She applied to our firm for help because she doesn't know English and
    has not access to the Internet. At the same time Olga wants to find
    her soul mate and she seriously interested in you and hopes to develop
    your relationships.
    For the moment her account is over. If you are seriously interested in
    continuation of
    correspondence with her, contact us to get more details about our
    and payment.

    We hope our offer is interesting for you.

    Sincerely Yours


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    AGENCY is possible?! Girl, I think no...
    Who is girl, ID at ATAREKS...

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2004



    As far as I know atareks is a place where ladies place they add for free and you can contact them also free.
    The problem start when some agencies used this free pages to place the profiles for they customers.
    So, as far as I can understand, you pick one lady that did not place her add in that web page. The agency did it.
    After you send 3 mails, the agency let you know that if you want to continue writting to her either she or you must paid for the translation fee or name it yourself.
    I think that is what happend, I can not say to you if the agency or the woman is a scam, but the procedure I describe above it is very comun.

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    I would think that an honest agency would be honest from the first letter. They should have stated in the first letter, that after the 3rd letter, they would start charging for translation. They are using the bait and hook method. Once they think you are serious about this woman, they ask for a fee, or she will never be able to communicate again to you. She will just move on to the next guy, or perhaps she is just a made up person with this agency, and they are writing all the letters.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2004


    i had a simular experiance, i was amazed by the quick response i always receive in my letters, then i had instructionns on how to pay... 250$ per month!

    my reply was:

    > We are open for all your suggestions.
    > Sincerely Yours
    > Director of "Jelanni"
    > Victorya Molchanova.

    Thank you for your information, please provide me with:

    1. Your website details so I can look.
    2. Your business address so my friend can pop in and say hi, he works in the Ukraine.

    He can give you some money for me.

    Thank you


    have a heard since from them? Nop... a SCAM


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2004


    In my opinion it's a scam. She has a feeling for him after only 2 letters and talks too much about her future husband. Typical. And the agency takes advantage of him or maybe contributes to the scammer.

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    Scam without a doubt. No hot looking babe like that needs the Internet to find a man. She can find a rich man in Russia with ease.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2004


    To Ranulfo:
    You would have to start a new topic, but I will answer you. Evidently these ones are photos of a model. They can be falses, be a deceit to catch you. Ask her for her job and have a lot of precaution. It would be recommendable to look at her through a webcam.

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    This is the typical scenario for the "bait and hook" agency scam. You get a "lady"'s email address through a free or paid subscription website and then you write to whom you think is the lady and some person from the agency purports that he/she is that lady and then you get another letter, often appended to the bottom of the "lady"'s letter, that, if you would like to continue to correspond with the "lady," you must pay for each subsequent letter. The real lady probably does not even know that her identity is being hijacked.

    If you want to test this hypothesis, write a follow-up letter asking for the lady's home address, home phone number and personal email addresses and enclose your email address with instruction that she send you that information. If you don't get this information, then that is your evidence that this is a scam. ([u]If you do, contact her immediately to test the veracity of the information sent. Do NOT accept the agency's phone number and address in lieu.)

    Hope this advice helps you.



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