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  1. #1
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    Default I'm a nnew scammer and I need your advice

    I'm 37 years old man who has a very honoranle job and that even looks good. In the last 3 months I was corresponding with a Russian woman which was "really beautiful & sensitive" - She became all my life, and we "planed" to meet in England for two and a half weeks. Unfortunately, I've sent her about 2,400$ dollars (for passport, visa, tickets, clothes, dentists etc.), and some gifts to the adress she gave me (I know she recieved that gifts, although it took about 6 weeks). I told her I'll give her a lot of money in our meeting. She called me 8 times and sounded really sweet and serious. I got about 50 letters from her and about 40 pictures of a simple nice Russian girl (not a model). About a week before the meeting, when everything was "closed" from my side to go out for a dreamed vacation in England with her, she tried to catch me on the phone (I was not home) and finally left some messages that she cannot come because her father made an accident. This week I was really shocked when I found all those sites about the "scammers" which were including her name everywhere and the same letters (+ -) she sent me. None of the pictures she sent me was in any of those sites. I'm
    really sick of making mistakes and don't know what I should do now. I don't know, I have so many questions... - If this woman knew that she's gonna have everything from me, as she knows about my very good economic situation and she has a lot of my pictures, why did she give it up so fast, why didn't she tried the relations with me ? (I was really nice to her). If the woman in the pictures is not the same "woman" who wrote me, so where are all this pictures came from and who is the really sweet girl that has phoned me and talked to me so many times ?, If she's a scammer, why did she called me so many times and left her voice so many times on my electronic secretary ?, How could she take the money from "Western union" if it's not her ?, Why did she gave up the trip to England if she could abuse me there (She knew I'm gonna give her a lot of good time and a lot of money there!)? etc., etc., etc.. I'm sorry, I'm so confused. I was sure I'm really briliant until this case happened to me. What you suuggest me to do now ? (She called me last night and was really sweet)- I will be really grateful if you answer me and give me your advise, Andy.

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    Q1: I told her I'll give her a lot of money in our meeting.

    A1: a fool and his money are soon parted. you bragged. she took. also learn one thing..... "cannot buy love".

    Q2:I've sent her about 2,400$ dollars.

    A2: and most probably she said Thank you very much as well.

    Q3: her father made an accident.

    A3: no her father brought to the world a good scammer. you made the accident of thinking you can buy a woman with promises of cash.

    Q4: I'm really sick of making mistakes and don't know what I should do now.

    A4: eat humble pie. learn from mistakes. read posts. ask for advise. even if you trace her, maximum is she will get arrested. as to getting money back, dream on.

    Q5: If this woman knew that she's gonna have everything from me, as she knows about my very good economic situation and she has a lot of my pictures, why did she give it up so fast, why didn't she tried the relations with me ?

    A5: can't buy love.

    Q6: If the woman in the pictures is not the same "woman" who wrote me, so where are all this pictures came from and who is the really sweet girl that has phoned me and talked to me so many times ?,

    A6: internet and god knows who the really sweet girl is. she is not so sweet scamming you though.

    Q7: If she's a scammer, why did she called me so many times and left her voice so many times on my electronic secretary.

    A7: what do you expect? try and send another US$2400 and see how fast she phones!!!

    Q8: Why did she gave up the trip to England if she could abuse me there (She knew I'm gonna give her a lot of good time and a lot of money there!)?

    A8: maybe she thought she will be used and abused. and incidentally, did you read conditions to get a tourist visa for a russian for england? she would have been refused a visa.

    p.s. can i send you a few photos of a nice woman and you send me US$2400? thanks in advance. my name is really Olga.



    to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

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    This is a proof how russians are bad..... you hear tons of stories like this..... they are just a mafia,
    whoever is talking about the crimes in America should turn his head east and look at all these crimes in russia..... A fool is not the one who sends money to somelse he doesn't know otherwise everybody who give money to the red cross or whatever is a fool. I do not agree... I think a nice and honest guy is not a fool.... the russians are the ones who make him look fool... If you work with crap you smell like crap.... not because you are a crap but because you are dealing with ****ty russians....
    Go to Hell ****ing scammers..... you ruined all the beauty of russia...

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    Seems that andyjeal doesn't understand the Russian mentality very well. If you send $2400 one thousand times to one thousand different Russian women, you will be scammed 1000 times. Why the hell didn't you just go there and meet her in person first??

    A man's mind, streched by a new idea, will never re-gain it's original dimension.

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    First of all, thanks to all of you, even to you Nick who almost shot me right in the head.
    Nick, maybe instead of criticise all the victims here, you'll give some good advices how we can punish or revange all those scammers, eh...?. I'm an honest man who just tried his luck and believed that relations can succeeed even if they began in the internet - I was maybe naive, but I don't think I'm a fool, as I've just taken a chance - What could I said to a "nice" woman that earns 90$ a month if I wanted to meet her for my own interest - "Try to save money in the next height-nine years, then I'll meet you...???" - Come on, be serious...!.
    Detective, thank you for your support...! - Look how many "victims" we have here, it's amazing ! - Can it be that all the world is fool except the Russians ? - It's a matter of norms and values, no doubt it is !.
    For my third friend (sorry for not remember his name ) - Why should I go to Russia if I have other normal places ? - To be killed there...? to have a meeting with myself ?. I wanted this "woman" to be abroad for the first time in her life, I tried to be nice to her, not to buy her.
    By the way, none of you explained to me how could she send me so many pictures of her for the last three months.

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    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    First of all, thanks to all of you, even to you Nick who almost shot me right in the head.
    darn..... did i miss???? sorry but, unfortunately what i said is the truth. you showed your money and told her how much you have. she took you for a ride.


    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    Nick, maybe instead of criticise all the victims here, you'll give some good advices how we can punish or revange all those scammers, eh...?.
    you seen the size or russia?!!!! writing to somebody who is a scammer, uses different aliases and most probably free e mail addresses???

    what you can find is how to not be scammed again. and how to? very simple. there are a lot of posts to read. scam scenarios. what to look for. sorry...... but you expect me to say "put your head on my shoulder"??? for what ever way you did anything, you "jumped in. you told about how much money you have and tried to buy her with expensive gifts and offerings".

    did you read anything about their customs? about their traditions? mentality? visas needed? scams going on?

    before i even wrote to my first one i did about 2 weeks reading. go to google and type in "scammers", "russian scammers". there is a lot to read.

    also have you read about age differences? what to look for? what to avoid? let us see..... if you send flowers do you send odd or even numbers?

    so you thought you will "cut the work". write to a girl and show off about what a lifestyle you can offer. sorry. you are not going to get any sympathy from me.


    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    What could I said to a "nice" woman that earns 90$ a month if I wanted to meet her for my own interest - "Try to save money in the next height-nine years, then I'll meet you...???" - Come on, be serious...!.

    ok. NO 1. read about visas. if a "nice" woman, who has the morality of a high priestess, will NEVER dream of scamming, is the most desirable woman in the world, has the utmost of serious intentions confirmed in writing on oath before a notary, a judge and a lawyer.......

    tries to get a visa for england and she says "i earn US$90 a month"......

    she WILL NOT GET A VISA. and if she says "i have a sponsor who has millions" she WILL NOT GET A VISA. go to the uk immigration site and read. let me explain to you......

    bulgarian. i have known her for about 2 years. she wanted to visit england for 2 weeks. i (personally) went with her to the embassy. we filled the forms in. fee. passport.......

    i supplied a copy of my driving licence to show residence and where she will be staying. also copy of my passport.

    two copies of utilities bills.

    copies of my credit card statements and credit limits to prove i can look after her.

    letter of invitation.

    letter confirming i will have her stay at my home, she will be fed. she will be taxi'd round the country. all she needs is for clothes and souveniers.

    copy of my bank account (current).

    copy of my bank account (savings).

    copy of declaration, signed in front of a solicitor confirming i accept the penalty imposed if she does not leave the country. (6 months prison and ?5,000 fine).

    she showed US$1000 to live on for two weeks.

    REFUSED.

    basis? she did not have sufficient income from employers to prove she will not try and become an illegal immigrant.

    before you went and sent this US$2400 did you check any of this? and your story has flaws as well.....

    you say you were flying to england. she was flying to england. did she have hotel vouchers? flight tickets? visa?

    did you check with the airline if at least she was booked? in my opinion, you went and threw some money at her and hey bingo! now lets meet and have sex.

    have you looked at the custom of russia? what did you do? book a double room in some hotel? jeezzzzzz!!!! a decent russian girl will not kiss you for at least 3 or 4 days. mine took 5 days before she would even let me kiss her. but...... once we did kiss...... blimey!!! and the one before her, same thing. would not kiss until at least 3 days.

    so what did you do? book a double room in some london hotel? to a decent woman that looks like you "want to buy her for a couple of weeks of escorting and sex". or as they will look at it "a puta".

    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    Detective, thank you for your support...! - Look how many "victims" we have here, it's amazing ! - Can it be that all the world is fool except the Russians ? - It's a matter of norms and values, no doubt it is !.
    forget about him. he is just on here to post when he is on "happy baccy". i might be a nutcase and a sarcastic person. he is deprived of any decent mental functions.

    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    For my third friend (sorry for not remember his name ) - Why should I go to Russia if I have other normal places ? - To be killed there...?
    jeez!!!!!! guys!!!! what is this thing about "being killed". i have been there. and what is all this????

    "i want to find my princess but i do not wish to risk my life"......

    what happended to the man having "balls" and "protecting the woman"???? you come over as "the woman has to protect me"!!!! so what are you telling me???????

    you find a woman of your dreams. you get married. she is being attacked and you scream "i do not want to risk my life"???

    this is a country where a man is a man and a woman is a woman. you want her? you are with her. her ex comes over and they start bitching. you say "excuse me..... i wish to say something" and you head butt the ex, break his bleeding nose and tell him to get lost.....


    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    I tried to be nice to her, not to buy her.
    hide it as you want. you wanted to buy her. and how??? read my post below. copy of a letter i just got from my girl. notice the difference....


    quote:Originally posted by andyjeal

    By the way, none of you explained to me how could she send me so many pictures of her for the last three months.
    a: are they "real pictures" or illusions? i can send you pictures of 3 different women. are they same person? or because of what you want to believe they are same person.

    b: so what? at US$2400 a shot, she can afford a private photograher. please next time send her US$5000. we may see gold guilded photos of her. come on!!!! you not heard of digital cameras!!!! in one day can take 2000 photos and cost nothing. just download to a pc.



    to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

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    Andy,

    don't know how to break this to you dude but just cos you got pictures and just cos you got phone calls doesn't mean that the girl you thought you knew even exists. The pictures are probably taken by some big ugly russian guy, who just uses them to keep you interested. The phone calls could be from anyone he knows, and pays, to make them.

    Like Nick said she would never in a million years have been accepted for a Visa to the UK, especially if she has never been abroad before. Maybe in a few years she could, cos by then you would have sent her enough money to make her independently wealthy!!!!!!! [V]

    As everyone on here will tell you never send money. If guys like you didn't send money then there would be no such thing as Russian scammers.

    Send it to Olga (above) and then he, sorry SHE can share it with me.

    Better luck next time dude

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    notice the difference.......

    from my girls letter....

    quote:
    To eat at home, I think, this will be enough 150-200$ for 2 weeks. We cannot go to a restaurant and cook the holiday supper at home. In a restaurant it will cost approximately 100-150$ for 3 persons. This will be depend on, what will be a restaurant and what we shall eat and drink. Bowling costs approximately 700-900 rubles for 1 track for 1 hour. Theatre costs approximately 100-200 rubles 1 ticket. I do not know while, what museum there is in Kazan, but it is not expensive too, as the theatre.
    end quote:

    and i can still "trash this". 150 -200$ for 2 weeks.... she is looking at "high class home cooked meals". but restaurants.... US$50 a person.... now that tells me she is not after spending my money.

    quote:
    Do not worry, that you have little money. We can walk simply. I want to see you simply and I do not need for expensive amusements and restaurants. Believe me, we shall find, what to do together. I shall be distressed very much, if you will not arrive in December. But in any event, you must do, how for you will be comfortable. OK?

    end quote:

    now sit down. read what she wrote me. read what yours wrote you. notice the difference between a good decent woman, and a scammer.



    to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

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    Sorry again.

    Just saw the bit about Kazan.

    But I've had an Olga from Kazan contact me from elitemate.
    Nick dont take the pee. but what is it about Kazan ?



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    quote:Originally posted by Chedz



    Send it to Olga (above) and then he, sorry SHE can share it with me.
    ok Chedz....

    Olga now sends you a kiss......

    my darling Chedz. today i woke and i first looked at the nice robin singing..... his song was so sweet.... it reminded me of our love for each other.......

    then my dad came banging in the room and said "hey you scammer..... get your backside back to work".

    LOL!!!!!



    to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on

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