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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2005

    Default And how about this...scam or not?

    Here is the text from a few emails that I have received from someone calling themself "Irina." She initially contacted me through Yahoo Personals. I have received 3 photos from her, but I hesitate to post them b/c I am uncertain if this is a scam or not.

    Email #1:
    Hi Travis !!!
    How are you? It Irina.
    I was happy to receive you the message.
    As I bring apologies for a delay of my answer to your letter.
    I have been very much borrowed and I did not have time to write to you
    the letter.
    For me was the big pleasure to receive your letter.In a photo you look
    When I saw your structure in Yahoo. To me heart has told that you the
    person which to me we bypass.
    I have dared to write to the first to whom or through the Internet.
    I should be grateful to this to my girlfriend Liza.
    My girlfriend Liza has found the good person through the Internet in
    the French city
    Le Mans. They are very happy together. Now they have already concluded
    a marriage and live
    In France. I am very happy for them. And I as have decided to find the
    good person
    Through the Internet. As I did not know the French language, I have
    decided to search in U.S.A.
    I not unitary heard about that that Americans very good people and
    among them is much
    Remarkable men. I shall not hide I met some men from Russia,
    But these attitudes were not long as the majority of Russian men are
    rough in
    The attitude to the woman. Many have propensity to alcohol. I have the
    big hostility
    To men which use too much alcohol.
    I had the father which constantly saws and beat my mum. When to me 8
    years it were executed has died from
    Alcoholic poisonings. My mum very strongly cried. But it has carried
    also she has found good
    The man which loves her and is not drunk with alcohol. They live
    together 19 years. It has replaced
    To me of the father. Certainly they have children: two my younger
    I shall tell to you about myself:
    My full name Irina. As I spoke earlier to me 28 years.
    I was born on April, 10, 1977. My growth is 5 ` 8, weight of 55 kg.
    On a nationality I Russian, I believe in the god and I am orthodox the
    I was born and I live in the city of Cheboksary. It is small beautiful
    small town city. In it it is a lot of
    Beautiful places: parks, the area. My city to be in 1000 kms from
    Moscow. As we have time zone of Moscow
    It GMT+6.
    Mine a favourite season this summer. We with family frequently leave
    for limits
    Cities. I like to spend time in the summer on the nature. I like to
    walk collecting beautiful flowers.
    Sometimes simply to lay and look at the sky. To observe of clouds. They
    sometimes accept very amusing figures.
    For me summer the best is time. In the winter at us it is very cold. I
    do not love a cold. I was very bad to transfer
    It is necessary to put on in warm clothes. Frequently simply it would
    not be desirable to leave from the house.
    As I have higher education. I have a trade the teacher of initial
    I have chosen this trade because I very much love children. But
    unfortunately my speciality appeared
    Not claimed and me it was necessary to go for work in a kindergarten
    the tutor.
    This work for me has an entertainment. Children of me very strongly
    like, the some people name me mum.
    For me it is very pleasant to feel whose that love, even a nursery.
    As I should tell to you, that I have no house of a computer, and I use
    a computer,
    Which to be in a cabinet of director of our kindergarten.
    It has allowed to use to me the Internet. As I badly address with a
    computer, they together with my girlfriend Liza
    Helped me with search of the good person. When I saw your structure, my
    search has stopped on you.
    I have stopped the attention to you. I hope also you will not disregard
    I seem already have written much. I am afraid that there will be no
    information for the following letter. Attempt of
    I shall speak you the rest in the following letter. I would like that
    also you have written to me about yourselves and
    your city.
    I never was outside Russia and it is very interesting to me to learn
    about your life in America.
    I put my photo to my letter. I hope you have found its good?
    I with impatience shall look forward to hearing from you.
    Your new Russian friend Irina.

    Email #2:
    Hello Travis!!!
    I am glad to receive your letter again!!!
    Today I especially hastened for work. I was afraid that I shall not
    find your letter in my box.
    On a threshold of me director has met and informed that to me there has
    come the letter. It was very interesting to me
    To read your letter. Now I start to learn about you more. It is very
    important for me.
    Today Saturday and at us short day I work till 14 o'clock.
    My friend, Travis, I want to tell to you more about myself and my
    I live together with the family. My mum, the stepfather and two my
    younger sisters.
    My mum call Olga. She works works as the controller in transport
    service of our city.
    Its husband Sergey. It works as the driver at a factory on manufacture
    of steel doors.
    They do not earn many money, but they are happy together. In our family
    of money never were
    On the first place. As my mum speaks is not necessary aspires to earn
    more money, it is necessary aspires
    To that what happiness and love never left your house. She very good
    and kind woman.
    She has learned much me in a life. Since childhood I never heard from
    it rough words.
    She was for me not only I scold but also the friend to whom I can talk
    about all experiences.
    My younger sisters still go to school.
    Younger Masha studies in 9 class. And senior sister Vika studies in 11
    class she leaves school this year
    Also is going to enter the university. She wants to become the
    Our family very amicable and we are never littered. I very much love my
    I spoke my mum that have got acquainted with you. She has approved it.
    As she cares of my future.
    I already spoke you about my girlfriend Liza. She has found husband
    Loren in France.
    She has gone to it to France and they were together there 3 months then
    have got married. They very much loving and happy pair.
    I am very happy for them and as strongly I envy it.
    As I want to tell to you about the work. I like my work.
    In our children's home very kind and affable people, except for Elena
    work. It is very harmful and not the pleasant person.
    I work as the tutor with children of 3-4 years. I very much like to
    spend with them time.
    These are very emotional and cheerful creation. When I look as they
    This best seems to me that that it is possible to see. I frequently
    leave with them on walk.
    Us in group two I and my girlfriend Katya.
    I shall well finish my letter. So at our director it is a lot of work
    and the computer is necessary for it.
    I hope that we shall be dialogue with each other? Please inform me the
    information on you directly more.
    I want to know more about you and your country, city. I never was In
    U.S.A. and it is very interesting to me.
    As I want to know more about your family, about your friends.
    Greetings to you from my mum.
    I with impatience shall look forward to hearing from you.
    I shall read your letters on Monday.
    Your friend Irina.

    Email #3:
    Hello, Travis!
    I am glad to read your letter again.
    I like to read your messages. When I read them I I learn about you more
    and more
    And your life. So we learn more about us.
    Weekend I was at home not where did not go at us there was a bad
    the wind blew and there was a snow. Weekend it was cleaned at home both
    has made a tasty dinner and has fed all family. Weekend thought of you.
    Unfortunately I have no easy approach in the Internet, director does
    not allow to use it not to destination.
    Travis I hope you to me will send your photo in the following letter.
    Probably you want to learn about my hobbies.I have various hobbies.
    At leisure I like to spend time with close people.
    We frequently with my girlfriends meet at their place. We walk on park.
    In the winter we frequently go
    To skate. This very fascinating employment. In our city there is a big
    skating rink,
    Where it is possible to skate for the small sum. I like to spend time
    on fresh air.
    I frequently leave for city in the summer. In the summer our nature is
    simply magnificent.
    We put tents near to the river. We bathe, we fish and very cheerfully
    we spend time.
    And I like when my life is accompanied with good music. I very much
    like to listen to music.
    I like when we go to a campaign to listen to songs under a guitar. I
    like when I am surrounded with music.
    I very much like to listen to music. You like to listen to music. I do
    not allocate what that especially
    Genre from music. It is pleasant to me that is done really with soul. I
    listen as well as Russian executors,
    And foreign executors. Be it that that from classical music or from a
    progressive techno.
    It is pleasant to me as various groups. You heard that or about the
    Russian groups?
    Such as "Tatu", " Laskovy Mai ", " Ruki V verh ", "Korny".
    As I like to look good films. I like to look films about love, good
    cheerful comedies.
    I do not like to look horrors, thrillers. It is very terrible for me.
    Once I looked cinema at a cinema
    It referred to " 13 ghosts ", I could not look through it to the end I
    have left a cinema.
    When I have told about it to mum she have laughed. I like such films as
    " Harry Poter ".
    " 50 first dates ", "Taxi" and as other good films. You love what
    You like to read books? I very much like to read books. I read Tolstoy,
    Chehov, Dostoevsky.
    As I read modern products. Such as " Harry Potter ".
    Sometimes I like to sit one and to dream about something. Sometimes I
    scroll the life and I recollect the happy moments
    From my life. I frequently recollect one moment which forces me to
    In the childhood with mum we went to have a rest on the sea. I never
    before saw the seas.
    We have removed a small house near to the sea. We were there 1 month
    and it was the finest month about which have remained pleasant
    Memoirs. After that I never was on the sea. I frequently dream to see
    the sea, but now it is very expensive what
    To go to have a rest on the sea. It is very beautiful when the sun
    leaves for horizon reflecting a way red color.
    I liked to observe of it. Do You love the sea?
    I think that to me is time to finish the letter. As it is time to me to
    go to work.
    My friend, Travis, I would want that you as have written about the
    I shall wait for your letter and with pleasure I shall write to you
    With the best regards your new friend Irina!!!

    So what do you all think? Scam or not?



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2005


    they are already online, google them. i remember pubishing the letter where the "mom cried" when the dad died from alcohol poisoning on my site about a week ago.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2005


    I have received numerous letters like these ! All are scammers or want to have some game with you ! Be very carefull ! If you want to go on and play, well do it ! BUT DO NOT SEND MONEY !!

  4. #4


    They are all scammers until proven innocent.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2005


    They are innocent, till proven guilty!
    Do your homework, never sent money!

  6. #6


    No they're not. In these cases they are guilty till proven innocent. This is the best line of defense.

    They are all scammers until proven innocent.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2005


    How do you proove a scammer innocent?? I am missing out on something.

    A man's mind, streched by a new idea, will never re-gain it's original dimension.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2005


    You're right.
    I had only one bad experience in Novosibirsk, a few girls asked for money after they established contact by a dating site.
    The majority of the woman I have met where nice and sincere.
    Voyager, I do not understand your opinion about woman from east Europe.
    I do not think you wil meet a nice woman if you approach them with this kind of attitude, most women I have met are proud and do not take BS from any foreigner.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2005



    For me it goes about 50% - 50% during the meetings.
    Some women are really nice but many of them behave stupidly and clearly want only to have some fun or sex for money.
    The problem seems to be that if I like a woman she doesn't like me and if the woman clearly liked me I did not feel so interested.
    Some of them even wanted to marry me after the first meeting ...
    Guys I hope we could have really serious talks here and not any stupid debates.
    It is important to talk about the experiences with them. Guys who havn't any should be less aggressive.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2005


    I have met a number of women in Russia, Ukraine, Moldova and Rumania and two of them visited me in Holland, with one of them I am living together now.
    I have visited these countries the last 3 years about 20 times, so I guess I have some experience.
    I still do there, but now only for business
    Lonelyboy, my rates of deception were a little different.
    I usually mailed with them for a couple of month, did some checking on them and would meet them.
    I took care of my own travel arrangements, including an apartment.
    There was not much possibilities for them to scam me when I was there, except for this time in Novosibirsk.
    Of course I took care of the expenses of a dinner and the regular tourist trips, but that was always a very limited amount.


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