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  1. #11
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    Well detective,

    Anyway I hope that you should take care of yourself with Ukrainians too. Most of them LOVE Russians and have Russian habits ! Daily they even speak more Russian than their native language...
    In western parts of Ukraine the mentality is different. Probably due to the catholic influence from Poland.


  2. #12
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    Guys,
    It is hard for me to agree with all the previous opinions.
    Althought my travels to Russia were limited, I have traveled a lot to other east european countries and I have had no bad experiences with the people/women overthere.
    Except one time in Russia

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    the whole problem lies:
    a) in the high & equally false & misleading expectations of most men. EG all those older men seeking (most often) tail out of their league & 1/2 their age. Come on, get real first & look in the mirror. The women they're seeking are high-maintenance, thus tricky & potentially dangerous... who are they fooling? They'd be in trouble heading that way even at home. Last week i personally saw a nearly 50yo man ( showing ALL his years ) with a 20 something beauty dressed accordingly...to please her he signed a E2400 cheque...to the pet shop owner only for whatever animal he bought her! I personally saw him signing the cheque. Now tell me how things are going to be like when it's clothing or jewellery store time.

    b) In the misleading & overboard opinion most men have of themselves. Read over the internet. Outer space kind of claims abound. Men who are 35+ who claim they have been told they look like teeners; those who are 50+ yet claim they're fit as a race horse; the braggarts in their 60's claiming their model dates are all 1/3 their age & so forth. Millionaires go a dime a dozen...[u]over the internet. US or else census show us a [u]differentpicture.

    So ok, he's 53 and thinks he's an affluent super-stud, and meets this 22yo porn flick FSU cutie fluent in English...then wonders when everything goes down the toilet...big deal.

    c) the LD/WWW/MOB scene by its own nature mostly drafts the scum of a given population. Have you ever met someone pretending to be...a model; at times man or woman; Elton John; the Backstreet Boys; etc?
    Well, i have. The few times i bothered with an in-depth investigation, it turned out they were pure fraud. A supposed "guru" on a popular fitness site having given even steroid advice for ages got busted for the half-a$$ed 15yo he was! 15yo! I wouldn't even let him park my car, let alone advise about drug usage! [u]Yet this is the internet.
    Now add the FSU n factor, that is lower wages, higher unemployment, agency gross & mild propaganda, the opinion western suckers will wire $ to any line on a PC screen rehashing old wind&fire, sea&earth pastel colored form letters and you have an explosive mix.

    In the end the men from above would be in danger at any pub or strip club. Women are women and FSU women are from another country, not another planet. If one is a sucker, he's pretty much game anywhere, any time.
    If one is on guard, then it's enough to decline the solicitation or bin the sob letter requesting money.

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    There are always exceptions...
    You know that Canada is a first world country and if you see how many homeless lying on the streets in torono you would think otherwise. Russians in general are disasters but you can find some exceptions. The idea is that they perceive westerners as fools and this is not true at all. They should look at there freaken useless principles and human values first before even turning there dumb head to the west.. Seeya

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    quote:Originally posted by Detective

    There are always exceptions...
    You know that Canada is a first world country and if you see how many homeless lying on the streets in torono you would think otherwise. Russians in general are disasters but you can find some exceptions. The idea is that they perceive westerners as fools and this is not true at all. They should look at there freaken useless principles and human values first before even turning there dumb head to the west.. Seeya
    well, i have lived in MTl for years & know these "routards".
    The only issue is: a westerner acting like a fool will be perceived & treated as such. [u] A person acting wisely will be perceived & treated accordingly.
    It's THAT simple.
    There is no good versus bad way of being a turkey at Christmas: either you're no turkey or you're on the table.

    I made some mistakes in the MOB/WWW/LD world.
    If i were to keep the score, the majority were western women.
    I'm wiser now.

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    Ok Ham,
    I agree partly with you if we are talking about Russians...
    If we behave like fools we will be treated as such SURELY. I agree.
    If we behave like Russians we have a good chance to be treated as such too.
    If we behave as we are used to behave at home probably we will meet the culture shock....



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    well, i am man enough to admit that when(ever) i got scammed, i could have easily solved the whole problem like i do now...that is, turning a deaf ear to the sob stories, the pastel colored canned letters, the wind&sea, fire&earth cut&paste concepts.
    I was (at the time) not in my best psychological shape & sharks are known to prey best upon wounded animals.

    I don't think the FSU deserves all this attention...it's the newest fad and the last white flesh market indeed, and this explains a lot of things; yet there is nothing there we haven't seen with those Manila or Bangkok girls.




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    Well, personally, I take 90% of the comments in this thread to be trolls to try to raise angry reactions. People are pretty much the same everywhere - some good, some bad, some indifferent. What you take to be Russian superiority is their pride in their own culture, history, and beauty of their language.

    By the way, if you're going to compare cultures who have national "superiority complexes," I believe the first on the indictment list would have to be Germans. As far as who are the worst of the "Slavs" - what a meaningless, silly comment! I suppose you've never heard of the gangs of scammers in Bulgaria, Romania, and Moldova? Hate to wake you up to the fact, there are scammers everywhere, including in US and Canada. If you want to see the worst of them, look in Nigeria.

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    quote:Originally posted by babe_in_rusland

    Well, personally, I take 90% of the comments in this thread to be trolls to try to raise angry reactions.
    Trolls huh?? That's a pretty funny comment. Personally I really don't care about raising angry reactions in anyone. And if someone were to react angrily, I would expect it to be a Russian woman.
    My comments were made on a basis of personal experience. A few years ago, sure I believed all of that BS about Russian women having higher family values than western women. But in reality, it turns out to be nothing more than exactly that. BS.
    Do I have a problem with Russian woman because of this?? No, absolutely not. But I do have a problem with the crap that floats around the internet about Russian women having such high family values. It is simply not true.

    A man's mind, streched by a new idea, will never re-gain it's original dimension.

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    babe_in_rusland,
    The problem is beyond scammers my friend. I know that canada and the united states have lots of issues.....and that scamming also occured in those countries....
    What I am trying to say is that the russians are not as great as it seems to be...and they are even worse than canadians and americans.. What I hate the most about this is that people still believe that the American women have no family value whereas the russian women have... This is BS....

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