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    no need to apologize. you are right, we are discussing issues well beyong just Russian scams.

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    quote:the way you express them is impolite and direspectful. do not confuse your views and your attitudes.
    hahaha!
    you remind me of those minority oh-so-sensible people who say the same when you bring up say minority ridden crime rates...all in all, it doesn't matter whether it comes from some anodyne census report or some KKK site: they always cry "disrespect"...ok, ok...i understand they're red in anger because the topic bothers them and try to focus on something else.

    quote:because he behaves like Nick. very agressive and disrespectful.
    ?????????????
    so, quote one disrespectful sentence...

    quote:Nick was knowledgeble, too. in fact, Nick was a lot more knowledgeble than Ham.
    The tooth fairy is even more so. Don't get me started about Santa Claus...

    quote:i think his comments about my choices and my believes are very offensive
    i typed a dozen times i don't care what you do.
    But (see example above) the only shadow of disagreement bringing up "some" topics gets on your nerves...
    You could write an "*** history month" essay about it...hey...
    internet hatemongers: the bare facts.

    quote:since Mr. Ham doesn't have a statistic to show that age difference marriages increases the failure rate,
    what are you afraid of?
    that you'll end like those couples you read about in the news?
    oh, but you're waaay better, so turn page, ok?

    quote:so could you please stop wasting my time proving to me that those things were not true? or that you were right in those arguments?
    do you read my posts, don't you?
    you said there is risk of someone "insulting back"...i said: insult back all you want, i don't care (and gave examples).

    quote:in fact, i met only a very few people in my life were so adament about disaproving of my choice in marriage. so, don't use this argument, it just doesn't hold true. i know hundreds of people, and a total of maybe 6 or 9 of them we got in fights with about the age difference marriages.
    "only a bigot would raise the topic of minority crime: that's so disrespectful towards ***. In fact, you & ABC are the only ones to ever say it's not ok ".
    yes, yes...same answer...as i sad, to me it borders nonsense, but perhaps you reinvented the wheel...who knows...

    quote:what i do not care about is the way to try to blacken everything i say, the way you talk to me, and the way you behave (snobish, nose high in the air, talking very negatively and disrespectful to everyone who has an opinion that you do not approve). look at your posts. the second anyone disagrees with you you start flaming them hard. why?
    haha...
    do you really can feel that much reading lines on a pc screen?
    are you psychic?
    And the second anyone disagrees with you, you start tirades against them and/or run in circles...come on, i replied to someone else and you jumped in twice as if i were talking to you...relax princess, you're not the belly button of the universe.
    Then of course once i reply to you, then you feel blackmailed & victimized...
    As far as i'm concerned, in another post someone even called me a "rughead"...did i bother? No way...They can think whatever they want...

    end of story.

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    quote:Originally posted by ham
    ok, ok...i understand they're red in anger because the topic bothers them and try to focus on something else.
    if i was trying to focus on somethinig else, would i bring this discussion up again (against my own best judgement)? what do you think?

    quote:Originally posted by ham
    ?????????????
    so, quote one disrespectful sentence...
    ok... how about this one: "I don't care whom you sleep with...i say: come after 15 or 20 years and let's talk.
    Afraid you won't be there as many because of divorce?
    Not my problem.
    It's useless you yell yourself hoarse now...every freshly married idiot thinks he'll last a lifetime."
    it is my understanding that you implied that i am a freshly married idiot?

    or... let's take this one: "Now i expect miss smart cookie to start bending over backward saying that is not true and that she knows a couple people who don't fit in..."
    i think that "miss smart cookie" was not a very respectful way to address me.

    i remember you even called Sonar a Rambo or something like at one point. or was it about soldiers who fighting in Iraq? You called many presients liars and whatever other names. Ok, here is this quote: : ?the only soldiers i can get Rambo quotes from are those in service. Hint: Kenndy was having sleazy weekends while sending soldiers to die in Vietnam. Doublejew opted for national guard, yet thicked the "non wanting to volunteer overseas" box...very brave. Another chicken pleaded homosexual; a third said he wanted to become a priest, then dodged the seminary when the war ended."

    i am not an American, and i do not care about politics, but even i feel offended by your comments. but ok, politics are not my strongest side, so i won't argue about them. but reading through the G. Bush post i am amazed at the total luck of respect on your side to Sonar views. Or do you think you were perfectly polite and respectful?


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    quote:Nick was knowledgeble, too. in fact, Nick was a lot more knowledgeble than Ham.
    The tooth fairy is even more so. Don't get me started about Santa Claus...
    what? i didn't understand this comment... what are you saying?

    quote:i think his comments about my choices and my believes are very offensive
    quote:Originally posted by ham
    i typed a dozen times i don't care what you do.
    good. then why do you care so much to prove me wrong?


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    But (see example above) the only shadow of disagreement bringing up "some" topics gets on your nerves...
    You could write an "*** history month" essay about it...hey...
    internet hatemongers: the bare facts.
    sometimes your comments make no sense to me... but whatever... let's say it was something smart....


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    haha...
    do you really can feel that much reading lines on a pc screen?
    i guess. those lines on the screen give me some idea what kind of a person is in front of me, and i feel differently toward each poster. i feel sympathy for one, a respect for another, an annoyence with the third one and the curiosity toward the forth one. i can see the level of competence, self-esteem, etc. i can guess the personalities and i can imagine why the people behave the way they do.
    dozens of people contact me every day (on my web site). if i did not feel anyting toward them, why would i spend time helping them? i care about them (not all, but majority). or is that wrong, too?


    quote:Originally posted by hamAnd the second anyone disagrees with you, you start tirades against them and/or run in circles...come on, i replied to someone else and you jumped in twice as if i were talking to you...relax princess, you're not the belly button of the universe.
    here is one more for your collection. calling me a princess i think it not nice and respectful of you. why do you prove yourself disrespectful when we are just talking about it?

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    quote:?the only soldiers i can get Rambo quotes from are those in service. Hint: Kenndy was having sleazy weekends while sending soldiers to die in Vietnam. Doublejew opted for national guard, yet thicked the "non wanting to volunteer overseas" box...very brave. Another chicken pleaded homosexual; a third said he wanted to become a priest, then dodged the seminary when the war ended."
    a) there are websites with bios of all those people (eg the one who pleaded homosexual etc; and all know who dodged Vietnam enrolling with the national guard; Kennedy was having sleazy weekends with wh-rettes while american soldiers were packed & sent dying.

    So what you call "disrespect" are facts...or are you saying nobody was having sleazy weekends and/or nobody was dodging conscription?

    quote:i think that "miss smart cookie" was not a very respectful way to address me.
    Godzilla's feet are tinier than yours, then.

    quote:It's useless you yell yourself hoarse now...every freshly married idiot thinks he'll last a lifetime."
    isn't that true?
    But quoting abstracts is a chicken way...i also said: otherwise they wouldn't get married to start with.
    Now can you challenge this statement: every freshly married idiot think he'll last a lifetime, otherwise he wouldn't get married to start with?

    quote:
    good. then why do you care so much to prove me wrong?

    i have nothing to "prove". I said to me it borders nonsense, but maybe you reinvented the wheel...it's you feeling challenged, not me...

    quote:i am amazed at the total luck of respect on your side to Sonar views.
    I simply disagree on that item & i have proof to substantiate my disbelief. What would be "respect" for you? I simply quoted facts you can find publicly...do you think it's a conspiracy? Untrue? Well, that's your choice, not mine.

    quote:calling me a princess i think it not nice and respectful of you.
    Godzilla's feet are like a tadpole's compared to yours.
    Well, ok miss oh-so-sensitive.

    quote:i say: come after 15 or 20 years and let's talk.
    Afraid you won't be there as many because of divorce?
    Not my problem.
    well, i happen to think like that...you go ahead & prove me wrong.

    quote:dozens of people contact me every day (on my web site). if i did not feel anyting toward them, why would i spend time helping them? i care about them (not all, but majority). or is that wrong, too?
    is "making a living?" too disrespectful?
    That's your job...or are you on an apostolic mission?

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    quote:Originally posted by ham
    a) there are websites with bios of all those people (eg the one who pleaded homosexual etc; and all know who dodged Vietnam enrolling with the national guard; Kennedy was having sleazy weekends with wh-rettes while american soldiers were packed & sent dying.

    So what you call "disrespect" are facts...or are you saying nobody was having sleazy weekends and/or nobody was dodging conscription?
    i am not big on politics or history, so i will not argue any facts above. the only thing that i will argue is that calling soldiers in Iraq "Rambos" was not nice no matter what political opinion you are of.

    even if you are right and all those people did what they say they did... why do you get so, as you say, hot and bothered about it? they are not even your politicians! why are you so fast with name calling? one is sleazy, the second one is a chicken, the third one is a liar... and whatever other name you called him (i am talking about Bush). can you hold a debate without using offensive names or attitudes? or do you just use those to make your point? you judge people so easily. but do you know all the facts about them? from where? books and magazines that were written by other people? who also, probably, got that info from someone else? you do not know eny of those people personally, do you? unless you know that information or those politicians first hand, how could you possible be able to judge them accurately? do you know all the factors that influenced their decisions or actions throughout this careers? or do you not care about that also? what do you care about? from our conversation one could conclude that "i do not care" is your motto.



    quote:Originally posted by ham
    Godzilla's feet are tinier than yours, then.
    my feet are size 7.5 which i think is just about right for someone my height. sometimes people do step on them (mostly accidently). i try not to hold it against them. i think i am rather forgiving that way.
    is everything ok? you are just starting to sound more and more.. frustrated.




    quote:Originally posted by ham
    isn't that true?
    But quoting abstracts is a chicken way...i also said: otherwise they wouldn't get married to start with.
    so, everyone who is freshly married is an idiot?

    also, i never thought of a couple that were married for 5.5 years as "freshly" married? but ok, if you think so. when do you think a couple will graduate from "freshly married" to just "married"? 6 years? 10? 20? can you give me a defenition of "freshly married"?



    quote:Originally posted by ham
    Now can you challenge this statement: every freshly married idiot think he'll last a lifetime, otherwise he wouldn't get married to start with?
    I disagree with the "idiot" word. i think that entering a marriage agreement does not automatically make people idiots. neither do i think that only idiots enter marriage agreement. either way your question becomes difficult to asnwer. so can you refrase that so i could answer it?




    quote:Originally posted by ham
    i have nothing to "prove". I said to me it borders nonsense, but maybe you reinvented the wheel...it's you feeling challenged, not me...
    you have used the "wheel" line at least 3 times by now. maybe it is time to get some fresh lines?


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    I simply disagree on that item & i have proof to substantiate my disbelief. What would be "respect" for you? I simply quoted facts you can find publicly...do you think it's a conspiracy? Untrue? Well, that's your choice, not mine.
    i have no problem with your opinion on those political events except for the way you expressed them. i think that regardless of whether or not the facts support your theories, there is no need to act disrespectful toward your opponent. i have already said that in the previous post.


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    Godzilla's feet are like a tadpole's compared to yours.
    Well, ok miss oh-so-sensitive.
    feet line take two? ok.... whatever... does it makes you feel better?.... because if it does, i am totally ok with it, go ahead and enjoy those thoughts.





    quote:Originally posted by ham
    well, i happen to think like that...you go ahead & prove me wrong.
    ok, deal. but how will we judge? i doubt this forum is going to be here that long. maybe you could send me an email address where i could forward you our anniversary or xmas pictures from every new year? so?
    time is the only judge to us all. lets let it judge.



    quote:Originally posted by ham
    is "making a living?" too disrespectful?
    That's your job...or are you on an apostolic mission?
    i wasn't talking about the investigations (those ARE my job). i was talking about the black lists and the free evaluations. those take most of my evenings about 6 days a week. speaking of which, i really need to get going. so, it was good talking to you all, see you tomorrow (or whenever next time)

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    quote:Originally posted by elenag
    here is one more for your collection. calling me a princess i think it not nice and respectful of you. why do you prove yourself disrespectful when we are just talking about it?
    Elenag,
    My humble opinion is that Ham is really not trying to offend you, although some of the things that he says can certainly be considered offensive. If you feel offended, then of course you have every right to defend yourself. But I find him to be very sarcastic myself rather than offensive. Since I too can be sarcastic at times, I know that sometimes other people do not know quite how to handle it. (I'm not refering to you, I think that you handle it greatly). Although no direct insult is intended toward them, they become very defensive.
    And yes, it can also be considered impolite to be sarcastic. So I will agree with you that peolple can be impolite on these boards. It is the nature of the beast.
    This thread seems to be a spin off from a discussion that you guys were having last week regarding age difference. Personally I have no opinion about it since it is really nobody's business other than the two people involved. I would not be inclined to become involved with a woman 28 years younger but if another guy does and it works for him, thats great. It is his business. And if the woman involved has no problems with it, that's great also.
    I do not think that elenag is trying to promote anything by simply stating that she has a very good relationship with a man that is 28 years older. She is simply saying that it works for her and she has no problem with it.
    So now I will add my own brand of sarcasm to this discussion:
    I hate to say it Ham, but she seems to be spanking your ass!! HaHa

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    quote:calling soldiers in Iraq "Rambos"
    i never did, actually.
    I said a few lines from the poster sounded like lines from movies such as American Ninja or Delta force (ex those unsupportive of a president are traitors ).
    I never talked about soldiers in Irak:
    I) these poor souls deserve at least respect because a bullet can be on their way.
    II) a soldier obeys orders, thus the chiefs are accountable.

    quotene is sleazy, the second one is a chicken, the third one is a liar...
    do you belong to some negro pride group or something?
    See, when married Kennedy was fooling around with wh@res (married), isn't that "sleazy"?
    What's the right word?
    About George's national guard enrollment form, he checked "not willing to volunter overseas"...now he sends others to die, while he dodged his turn to show bravery & patriotism?
    Not a coward?
    What else?
    Smart of course...Macarthur (?) once said: the smart soldier doesn't die for his country. He lets the enemy son of a b!tch die for his.

    quote:i doubt this forum is going to be here that long. maybe you could send me an email address where i could forward you our anniversary or xmas pictures from every new year? so?
    so nothing...i won't be here for sure.
    You don't know whether you'll still be married, either...same as people freshly married ignore whether or not they belong to the 40-50% divorce rate...
    I'm saying only that.

    quote:feet line take two? ok.... whatever
    that's an idiom...you're overly sensitive, hence confrontational.

    quote:i was talking about the black lists and the free evaluations.
    hmmm
    let's see...
    other vendors or service provider use niche forums as another way of exposure.
    http://www.stopscammers.com/forum/to...p?TOPIC_ID=489
    you do it to benefit humankind...very nice.

    quote:I hate to say it Ham, but she seems to be spanking your ass!! HaHa
    what for?
    Hell, i got the last flowery MOB email from some super-hot 18yo in love witme days ago, years after i've left the scene...you guess i'll be running a penthouse styled stable by the time i'm 60...too bad by that time i'll be likely spending more on urologist's fees, viagra and finasteride than say edible underwear...but hey...
    You forget i was already taken by some visa queen with a $187000 scholarship...
    aaah! the internet!

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    quote:Originally posted by ham
    You forget i was already taken by some visa queen with a $187000 scholarship...
    aaah! the internet!
    No, I havn't forgotten. She got herself into something that she could not get out of, thus the Houdini disappearing act. You know what I mean. As far as I am concrened, she was the fly, you were the swatter.
    Miss eg does not fit into that category from what I read in her posts. It's easy to recognize those 'mule headed' type of women that never give in and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong.
    Just don't think that eg is one of those.

    A man's mind, streched by a new idea, will never re-gain it's original dimension.

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    quote:Originally posted by Sonar
    Elenag,
    My humble opinion is that Ham is really not trying to offend you, although some of the things that he says can certainly be considered offensive. If you feel offended, then of course you have every right to defend yourself. But I find him to be very sarcastic myself rather than offensive. Since I too can be sarcastic at times, I know that sometimes other people do not know quite how to handle it.
    i agree on some points and disagree on others. I think that some of his comments were pure sarcastic while others were in my opinion worded to belittle. so i decided to take action.

    i agree with your assessement of the age difference problem, though.

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    to Ham.

    well, i see you somehow forgot to answer my most interesting questions... which is a real shame since they were pretty important for this discussion. so i will take a liberty and remind you of them real quick, ok?

    Question number 1:
    is it your opinion that everyone who is freshly married is an idiot?

    Question number 2:
    when, in your opinion, a married couple could graduate from the "freshly married" to "married" status? could you break it down for me? i am new to this culture, i am trying to learn as i go.


    quote:Originally posted by ham

    quote:calling soldiers in Iraq "Rambos"
    i never did, actually.
    I said a few lines from the poster sounded like lines from movies such as American Ninja or Delta force (ex those unsupportive of a president are traitors ).
    I never talked about soldiers in Irak:
    I) these poor souls deserve at least respect because a bullet can be on their way.
    II) a soldier obeys orders, thus the chiefs are accountable.
    Ah. i must have misunderstoof you then. The sentense ?the only soldiers i can get Rambo quotes from are those in service" in the middle of Iraq debate made me think you make fun on the American soldiers currently in service. i apologize then, it was my misunderstanding.


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    do you belong to some negro pride group or something?
    nope. why?
    by the way, the negro reference is getting old, too (no pressure, just fui)


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    About George's national guard enrollment form, he checked "not willing to volunter overseas"...now he sends others to die, while he dodged his turn to show bravery & patriotism??
    he checked that box what.. 20 years ago? 30? i don't know (it's true, i have no clue). i am not going to judge what he is now a singe fact from his past.

    when i was in middle school, i broke my teacher's favorite desk toy and hid it from everyone so she wouldn't get mad at me. i wasn't doing that great in her subject (though i honestly tried), but we had reasonably good relation with her which helped me out on occasion, so i was afraid to ruin the relationship because of the toy. she probably still thinks someone stole it. if it happened today, i would probably came forward with my apology and work things out. because i have a different prospective now. my behavior then was not flattering. since then i have donr several things that i myself consider rather brave. and i also had situations where i wish i was braver. i am working on becoming more and more consistent on behaving according to my principles, and i take pride in that. but should we forever call me a coward because of the broken toy incident?
    i give myself a benefit of a doubt, and i think it would be fair to give the same or even bigger benefit to everyone else.
    how about you, ham? have you ever done something in your past that now, looking back at it, you think you would do it differently?
    but don't get me wrong. i am not saying Bush would do it differently now. i am just saying that i woud not base my opinion on someone else's character and call him names based on something that that person did many, many years ago. i personally think Bush is not a coward at all. sometimes he may not make the best of the situation, or does things that i think he shouldn't have done, but that's a whole different story.



    quote:Originally posted by ham
    so nothing...i won't be here for sure.
    You don't know whether you'll still be married, either...same as people freshly married ignore whether or not they belong to the 40-50% divorce rate...
    I'm saying only that.
    First, no, it's not what you were saying before.

    Before you were saying that only two types of women choose older partners: the mishioneries and the mentally disturbed.

    Also before you were saying that me defending my opinions on this subject and my choice of the marital partner confirms the probability of my mental intsability, and that my arguments were the same as the arguments that heave smokers and drinkers use.


    Second, you were offering me to come back years later and prove you wrong all the way through the previos thread and i think ones or twice in this thread already. And when i say, "Fine, i am willing to do that" you announce that you are not even interested in the results of the "time test" you yourself proposed. Why?


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    that's an idiom...you're overly sensitive, hence confrontational.
    ah... i almost started to think you have a thing about big feet. but now i see.


    quote:Originally posted by ham
    other vendors or service provider use niche forums as another way of exposure.
    http://www.stopscammers.com/forum/to...p?TOPIC_ID=489
    you do it to benefit humankind...very nice.
    i do, actually. the black list is an enormous time sink. i try to publish at least 20-30 scammers per week, and i am still 443 scammer reports behind (not all of them will get published, though, and many of them report the same scammer in several letters - forwarding correspondence and photos.) but that's my homework for the Xmas vacation. i will be spending my only vacation in the past 3 years publishing those 400 or so reports. why? because someone have to. do you think that i think it that will ever pay off? i wish!!!!

    evaluations are even worse, they are usually boring and can easily grow into a long corresspondence (another time sink with no particular reward to me). sometimes i "babysit" people's correspondence reading every new incoming letter and scanning for red flags. eventually, in the distant future, the guy i am helping may want to use my services... or he may not. i will help him just the same. if i like the guy, of course. if someone just forwards me 3 letters and a picture, with the subject like "EVALUATION, PLEASE!" he may get just a link to my "101" article. I do not like when people treat me like their personal secretary. but that's another story. in short: yes, black list boosts my site popularity and therefore (hopefully) boosts my profits. however, i do not recommend you to divide the total profits earned by the amount of man-hours put into the free services. you would be rather eeeked out. in fact, the only way to make RD profitable business would be to drop the free services. but i did 4 years of the black list and the evaluations drag. so, yeah, i consider it a public service of a sort. however, i do plan to drop those services in the year 2006. i am starting my college next fall, so RD will either get shut down, or sold or i will find someone to take my place while still keeping the ownership. that is to be determined. in any case, i plan to concentrate on my education for the next several years.

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