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  1. #1
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    Default Is she (Russian girl) scammer ??? Please help me.

    Excuse me. I found this good website a little bit late, because I already sent some money to a Russian girl via Western Union for the passport and Visa days ago. She emailed me that she will get the new passport and visa within 8 or 9 days after she applied. (I guess she will tell me that she will receive the new passport and visa within 8 or 9 days on Friday 4 May 2007 or Monday 7 May 2007.)

    But, I have not sent the money to let her buy airplane ticket yet (fortunately). I do not know whether she is a scammer (I guess she may be a scammer, but not so sure.).

    ***One more information:
    She mostly answer my questions one by one.

    (A)
    Because I do not want to waste and send my big money (at least $1220 US dollars) to her again if she is really a scammer, so I want to ask your help to analyze the whole situation.
    (B)
    But, I also do not want to miss this opportunity to meet her or further marriage if she is not a scammer but a good russian girl.

    So I hope to get help and precious insight from all gentlemen here. Thank you in advance.

    Question 1:
    She emailed me that she will get "the new passport" and "the Australian visa" within about 8 days after she applied. Is it for both "the new passport" and "the Australian visa" so quick ??? I really doubt it. Does anybody know ???

    Question 2:
    Is it so easy for a Russian girl to obtain the Australian tourist visa with Australian person's invitation letter ??? (I have never sent her any invitation letter.)

    Question 3:
    She is 28 years old and work for her company for 6 or 7 years already. Her salary is low ($100 US dollars/month). But, she told me that according to the travel agency and the regulation in the Australian Embassy in Russia, as long as her emplyer (her company or organization) can issue the evidence (certificate) of her current job to prove that she has a stable job in Russia, then she definitely can obtain the "Australian tourist visa" and the low income does not matter at all. Is it true ??? Please tell me. Thank you.
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    In addition, she told me that her parents have real estate {ie, a apartment (flat)} where they are living now. She currently lives with her parents in her parents' apartment (flat). She said this real estate document will also be provided as evidence. Does this help her to some extent to obtain the Australian tourist visa ???
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    However, Today I accessed the "Australian tourist visa website" to have a look. I think that she may be a scammer because there is a "Financial requirements" (shown below). But I am not sure whether the Australian Embassy in Russia will give the tourist visa to the Russian people looser and easier than the formal regulation of "Financial requirement" of "Australian tourist visa" (listed below). I believe that this Russian girl cannot provide evidence of "sufficient funds" to cover all costs for the duration of her stay in Australia. So, It appears that she was lying me that she can get the tourist visa without providing "sufficient funds", right?

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    "Financial requirements":
    You must have access to "sufficient funds" to cover all costs for the duration of your stay in Australia, including health insurance if required. You "MAY BE" asked to provide evidence of your funds.
    Examples: personal bank statements, pay slips, audited accounts, taxation records, credit card limit. (please see the following link)
    http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/tour...ligibility.htm
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    Question 4:
    But, Excuse me, in the above "Financial requirements",
    Why does it use "may be", rather than "are","will be" ???
    Does it mean any flexibility to allow some people without "sufficient funds" to get the Australian tourist visa)???

    Question 5:
    Does anybody here hear that some Russian people got the Australian tourist visa (recently or before) without providing evidence of sufficient funding, but she/he only provides the evidence of her/his current job issued by her/his employer ???

    Question 6:
    Has anybody heard of Nataly (or Nataly kokova)??? or Was anybody cheated money by her via Western Union ???

    Question 7:
    I met her in Lavalife dating website. She took the initiative to find me and sent message to me. and then I replied to her. She spontaneously gave me her home address in her third email.(I did not ask her home address). In fact, I also do not know whether her home address and full English name given to me are correct or not. But she said that her family has "no telephone and no computer". she also said that she wrote emails to me from "the Internet of Cafe" (***the backgroud is very similar to some reported scammers here ???).

    Question 8:
    She is corresponding with me now. At the beginning (since the 6th or 7th email) (at least 4 to 5 emials), She asked me to go to her Russian home to meet her and see her parents. (From this angle, it seems that she has no intention to cheat my money, right? because she just want me to go to Russia to meet her!).

    But I replied to her 3 or 4 times that I do not know Russian Language so that I replied to her that it is dangerous for me to go to Russia to meet her. Then, after that, she replied to me that she is willing to come to Australia to meet me. But she has no money so that I need to send money to her to let her get the new international passport and the tourist visa first.

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    ***all the details are listed above. already. Hope all gentlemen here, please help me to analyze this case. Then, tell me whether she is 100% a scammer ???

    All in all, now, I need all your help to make a correct decision whether I can trust her to send the extra money (at least $1220 US dollars) to let her buy airplane ticket to come to Australia. (sorry, I do not want to go to Russia to meet her. so, please do not give me this suggestion. I think it is dangerous for me to go to Russia to meet her if she is really a scammer.) So, Please help me. Thank you.

    (A)
    On one hand, If she is really a scammer, I do not want to waste and send my big money (at least $1220 US dollars) to her again. So I want to ask your help to analyze the whole situation.

    (B)
    But, on the other hand, If she is not a scammer but a good russian girl, I also do not want to miss this opportunity to meet her or further marriage

    Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

    Waiting for your great help and analysis.
    Aries
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    Question 9:
    This question is not related to this Russian girl. I just heard that (1)if the Russian person's emplyer (company or organization) can issue the evidence (certificate) of her current job to prove that she/he has a stable job in Russia, and (2) she/he can buy the airplane ticket in advance before she/he apply for the Australian tourist visa (no matter where his/her funding is from, for example: her/his friend send money to her/him from overseas for ticket purchase) for checkup by the Australian embassey in Russia, then she/he definitely can obtain the "Australian tourist visa" and the low income does not matter at all. Is it true ??? Please tell me. Thank you.




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  2. #21
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    The only real fake documents case (from the list of open cases) that I know of is the case when the scammers had a fake power of attorney to receive money in some woman's name.

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    The only real fake documents case (from the list of open cases) that I know of is the case when the scammers had a fake power of attorney to receive money in some woman's name.

  4. #23
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    So, Aries, I have said it to you twice already and this is the third times and the last time: stop waiting. Do the next 50 guys in line a favor and file the complaint as soon as possible.

    If the scammed guys were able to get their money back, WU would sto servicing Russia about 5 years ago. And Nigeria, too.

    So, put your energy to some real use and file the complaint so their clock starts ticking
    http://www.russian-detective.com/sca..._complaint.htm

  5. #24
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    So, Aries, I have said it to you twice already and this is the third times and the last time: stop waiting. Do the next 50 guys in line a favor and file the complaint as soon as possible.

    If the scammed guys were able to get their money back, WU would sto servicing Russia about 5 years ago. And Nigeria, too.

    So, put your energy to some real use and file the complaint so their clock starts ticking
    http://www.russian-detective.com/sca..._complaint.htm

  6. #25
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    Hey elenag! As always you educate me. Thanks! Now just HOW would a person go about starting the process? Who would a person contact to file the complaint? I have someone in mind, but am not sure if the name or address I was given is "real" or not? Also, this person only attempted to scam me. I never sent money, but found out that the e-mail address and "her" photos are on several blacklists before things went that far. Can I even file a complaint under these circumstances? Your insight is more than welcome just as anyone else who has knowledge of such things.

    Train

  7. #26
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    Hey elenag! As always you educate me. Thanks! Now just HOW would a person go about starting the process? Who would a person contact to file the complaint? I have someone in mind, but am not sure if the name or address I was given is "real" or not? Also, this person only attempted to scam me. I never sent money, but found out that the e-mail address and "her" photos are on several blacklists before things went that far. Can I even file a complaint under these circumstances? Your insight is more than welcome just as anyone else who has knowledge of such things.

    Train

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    You start filing a complaint by calling Western Union, of course. Before you file a complaint you need to know where to send it. So, you call WU, get to speak to a rep from Fraud department, and ask if they could look up the name of the town where the money was picked up. With that info in hand, you can contact me for the address of the local police department and for a sample of a complaint which you can use to draft your own complaint.

    If you did not loose the money, you are not a victim. The only time I would recommend writing a complaint in this case is if you are supplementing someone esle's complaint (ex., if you find a guy online who lost money to the same scammer and he is filing a complaint. if you can show that the scammer was grooming both of you at the same time, it goes toward the criminal intent)

  9. #28
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    You start filing a complaint by calling Western Union, of course. Before you file a complaint you need to know where to send it. So, you call WU, get to speak to a rep from Fraud department, and ask if they could look up the name of the town where the money was picked up. With that info in hand, you can contact me for the address of the local police department and for a sample of a complaint which you can use to draft your own complaint.

    If you did not loose the money, you are not a victim. The only time I would recommend writing a complaint in this case is if you are supplementing someone esle's complaint (ex., if you find a guy online who lost money to the same scammer and he is filing a complaint. if you can show that the scammer was grooming both of you at the same time, it goes toward the criminal intent)

  10. #29
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    Thanks elenag! I didn't lose money to this scammer, so I can't go after "her" directly as I suspected. I have seen anti-scammer blacklist reports where "she" WAS working me and at least one other guy at the same time who did lose money, but reports are confidential and I doubt I would be able to contact these guys? I guess I will try through the site anyway.

    I'm so passionate about this subject because I would sincerely like to meet a nice girl and settle down, whether she be from the FSU or elsewhere. The days of my wreckless youth are just a memory. Internet scammers make it hard for all of us honest guys. Although I didn't lose cash, I lost a few months of my life. I don't look for pity, just the sound advice that someone like you can provide.

    A BIG THANK YOU!!! Any advice you have is always welcome.

    Train

  11. #30
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    Thanks elenag! I didn't lose money to this scammer, so I can't go after "her" directly as I suspected. I have seen anti-scammer blacklist reports where "she" WAS working me and at least one other guy at the same time who did lose money, but reports are confidential and I doubt I would be able to contact these guys? I guess I will try through the site anyway.

    I'm so passionate about this subject because I would sincerely like to meet a nice girl and settle down, whether she be from the FSU or elsewhere. The days of my wreckless youth are just a memory. Internet scammers make it hard for all of us honest guys. Although I didn't lose cash, I lost a few months of my life. I don't look for pity, just the sound advice that someone like you can provide.

    A BIG THANK YOU!!! Any advice you have is always welcome.

    Train

 

 

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