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  1. #1
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    Default anatomy of a doomed MOB marriage

    The article at the bottom was posted in russian elsewhere a long time ago & credited to a website now gone (immigrantov-net ).
    I think it is enlightening about how the whole MOB thing might be seen through the eyes of a FSUW.

    now this is hilarious.
    [u]Unless the man bragged he was some kind of millionaire ( and i don't think so, given he was decribed as mere "last best" ), what was she expecting?
    Someone who thinks the west is the land of plenty is a complete idiot & deserves whatever comes along.
    Did she expect a mension with servants?!
    Well, she should have made that clear in her ad...but she at times knew where she stood.
    There ARE wealthy men in the FSU...so why didn't she manage to trap one?
    ...because none would bother with a single mother in her 30s? Duh!
    The furniture is old...What did she expect, Louis XIV furniture worth a billion?
    All my furniture (except chairs, coaches etc ) comes from where i grew up as child; with a few 100s i could buy new one at the local store, but these are solid pieces of furniture with a sentimental value attached, so what?
    My parents have 30 yo ?man made? furniture they bought to last a lifetime and spent a fortune for.
    Was it just a "colorful box of cookies" or was she overspending?
    If one is not a millionaire or a drug dealer or some top dollar whatever, one must watch his expenditure.
    Ah...top dollar whatevers are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to go the MOB route.
    The article details about the ?colorful box of cookies? but gracefully omits the specifics of the ?phone bill?...which we can assume wasn't a mere $30, but perhaps many times over.
    The article makes a fool of him for suspecting mother & son discuss him in russian, but at the same time huge phone bills arrive because she has to ?discuss her worries with her mother?. Later in the article it is specified she is increasingly worried/annoyed/disappointed/frustrated because of her husband, which shows he's not far off the mark smelling a rat.
    She is disappointed he cannot really act like a true father for her son, but to start with she had a poor opinion of him and intended to bear no children to him...good double standard.
    Last, she left her job, burnt bridges...but the first part of the article details how desperate she was and -by legitimate inference- how minimal or worthless her chances at home were; so much that she didn't discriminate much, but hopped in the lap of the first comer...while perhaps telling him she loved him dearly.
    As foolish as any man can be, i seriously doubt anyone would bring home a woman through the burdensome MOB procedure, who told him openly she doesn't love him, and he's just a meal ticket or a ?last best? option. Yet a poll on a MOB forum stated 95%+ FSUWs didn't love their husbands by the time of marriage, despite telling him so.
    I see the man in this case as a victim of his delusion...we can picture she is not going to ?just leave?, but will take him for all she can...after all she ?deserves it? for ?putting up with his crap?, right? And little Igor cannot land on a sidewalk, right?
    And this was (supposedly) some single mother in her 30s...how bigger and bolder expectations of young bachelorettes can be?

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    quote:Part 2: a typical meeting in person. A woman, lets call her Lena,
    wants to get married. She is 32 and has a 10 year old child. Ot's hard
    to make ends meet. Lena works 8 hourse a day for a small salary.
    Spends her evenlings in a small apartment she shares with her son
    watching TV or on the phone with her girlfriend. She can't affort
    expensive vacations or fancy outfits. But this is not as important,
    as the feeling that years are passing her by. There aren't many good
    men around, and those who are not so bad are mosly paying attention
    on women much younger with no kids. Lena decides to try her luck by
    giving her profile to a marriage agency and seeing what hapens. She
    takes photos, sends them to the agencies. She wants. She even receives
    some replies. But mostly from some trange men with "issues" and
    problems. "send me a photo in your underwear" - writes one man, "I
    did not reply to you last month because I was being treated for
    mental problems" - writes another onen being blunt and open. So
    when a third man appears and writes normal letters about how lonely
    he is... Lena already starts thinking this is a great opportunity.
    She got lucky! Here is THE man. The photos arrive and there is
    a normal man on them. Normal but a stranger. Not attractive or
    anything. "Don't be so picky", tell her her friends - "he is a
    perfectly normal man with a mustage. Has a job. Writes good letters?
    What else do you need? If you are planning to be so picky you will
    stay alone until retirement!

    The arguments are very compelling. Lena understand herself she
    shouldn't take such luck for granted.
    If I say "No" to
    him, when will the "normal" man write to me? And then she hears her
    friend tell her that her friend
    that married AM last\ year vacationed in Maiami. "That's it!" -
    exclaims Lena, ready to marry a
    decent man with mustage w/o even looking at
    him.

    A man comes to visit Lena. The first impression males Lena feel
    uneasy. There is something in him, but the man is very different from
    his photo. The last hair fell out. He looks 50 even though he
    sworw he just turned 43. Upon careful examination Lena realizes he is
    also much shorter than he said he was. He loloks 170 cm not 174 like
    he said in letters. Lena is disappointed. The groom is pleasant and
    smiling, he is happy about everything. He likes the food. "What more
    do you need?", - whispers a neighbor." He is a normal man. It's not
    like you will bear his children? One child is enough".
    "Makes sence" - thinks Lena, and she realizes that a man will be a
    father to her son and will support him.

    At night a man behaves in a gentelmanly way. He obviously wants her
    but doesn't grab her, contains himself. Lena is happy about it. At
    the end of the week a man looks at Lena with loving eyes and asks for
    her hand in marriage. Lena is in doubt and asks for time to think.
    When the man leaves Lena all of a sudden feels sad. Did she miss her
    last chance?
    Lyuba is waiting for the second year and nobody visits *her*. "If I
    refuse I will miss my last chance". "If you dan't want
    A groom is calling often and even sends a couple of hundreds of $$
    for the trip. All this makes Lena finally decide to say
    "Yes". In a month Lena leaves her job, borrows a lot of money to look
    presentable abroad, and flies far away to get MARRIED.

    AND HERE IT TURNS OUT:
    The apartment is tiny. The couch on the foto is in someone else's
    apartment. He lives at the edge of a small town and out
    of his kitchen window one can see a near by farm. The living room
    furniture is about 20 years old. And the groom himself
    is not as happy in his own world as he was in Russia. He is not on
    vacation. He is at home. And it's very different. Here he
    is worried about his problems. He is often in a bad mood. Upon
    receiving a new bill he is nervously touching his mustage.
    He gets impatient with Lena. He gets annoyed at her son just by
    looking at him. Conversations in Russian with lena's son
    make him crimson red. He is always imagining they are discussing him.
    Lena feels increasingly uneasy, nobody is flying her to Maiami. At
    the supermarket she meets his angry stare when she
    reaches for a colorful box of cookies. But the real fight happens
    when the phone bill arrives end of the month. Lena often
    calls home to share her worries with her mom. The life becomes
    unbearable but there is no way to return. She is already
    married. She left her job, burned her bridges. No, of course it's
    possible to come back. But? Lena, are you crazy?! ?
    a friend is screaming into the phone, - there are no jobs...The water
    is turned off. A little boy was raped in school.
    Lena calms doen for the time being. But not for long. She looks at
    the aging apartment and at a husband whom she is
    beginning to hate and tears feel her eyes..


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    It's a well known statistic in Western society than around half of marriages fail.

    A large number of so called FSUW on dating sites are either bogus, men or have no intention of a serious relationship. So in that case the issue of 'suitability' is largely redundant.

    Stereotyping one group against another serves little purpose except the cultivation of ignorance.

    Take for example the marketing of FSUW as domestic homebuddies or in other cases the triple degreed rocket scientist fluent in five languages.

    As Ham has said women generally are women. A bitch is a bitch regardless if she's from Irkutsk or Cagayan de Oro. If she's Greek or Tajik she still has the right and expects to be treated as an equal and with respect.


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    It's a well known statistic in Western society than around half of marriages fail.

    A large number of so called FSUW on dating sites are either bogus, men or have no intention of a serious relationship. So in that case the issue of 'suitability' is largely redundant.

    Stereotyping one group against another serves little purpose except the cultivation of ignorance.

    Take for example the marketing of FSUW as domestic homebuddies or in other cases the triple degreed rocket scientist fluent in five languages.

    As Ham has said women generally are women. A bitch is a bitch regardless if she's from Irkutsk or Cagayan de Oro. If she's Greek or Tajik she still has the right and expects to be treated as an equal and with respect.


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    quote:Originally posted by Amerikanski

    Having survived marriage to a FSU beauty, I'll give a couple of much generalized observations. I do believe that each relationship rises or falls on its own merits, but I wish someone had told me these things first.

    1. General pessimism. Western media and culture tend to be optimistic, a "glass half full" mentality. Viktor Chernomyrdin best summarized the FSU mentality with his oft quoted statement, "We hoped for the best, but things turned out as usual.? Someone who constantly complains, constantly criticizes, and generally expects the worst out of each new experience will wear you down with time.

    2. Mir mentality. The mir was the ancient Rus village that was the collective building block of civilization. If you are not a member of your FSU girl's mir, you will be viewed with suspicion. They trust the friends they had in childhood. Everyone else is expendable. "I may be married to you, but you are not my family" is how it was explained to me.

    3. Rampant materialism. When was the last time you got together with your friends to compare wrist watches & shoes? My FSU had a club just for such things. Chanel, Gucci, Prada, you name it. They are slaves to the labels and the more expensive the better. I thought a FSU girl would be less materialistic than a Westerner. Wrong. They are MUCH, MUCH, MORE.

    4. Really bad sex. I have to mention this only because at least a half dozen members of my FSU victims club have mentioned this. Many FSU women are gorgeous. I can't resist them, honestly. But it seems that all of my friends who went down this road describe a woman who was accommodating, but not particularly enthusiastic at the outset, followed by being completely unresponsive sexually once married. If you are into necrophilia, you are going to LOVE sex with your FSU bride. No touching, no kissing, stiff as a board, blank expression, and quiet as a mouse. You can ignore it for a while if you like, but one day it hits you, that rape would be infinitely more enjoyable. To her, it probably is rape already.

    So there you have it. I advise dating FSU beauties, sampling the goods, and leaving. Do not bring one home. You will not be able to house train your new pet, and it will bite you in the ass each chance she gets.
    I posted this more than a year ago using my nom de plume, "Amerikanski." LOL, every time I read it I am amazed by what a genius I have truly become. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HOUSE TRAIN YOUR NEW PET. Sorry PeopleS, but it is true.

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    This is what I more and less have said on psychobabbling for a long time, though maybe not quite so radically.

    Concerning point 4, I've not had your bad experiences.

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    Hey guys! Having some time on my hands since returning from Lugansk, I looked around at some threads other than p-babbling.
    quote:I posted this more than a year ago using my nom de plume, "Amerikanski." LOL, every time I read it I am amazed by what a genius I have truly become. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HOUSE TRAIN YOUR NEW PET. Sorry PeopleS, but it is true.
    Amerikanski??? Well, alrighty then! The truth is, I don't really look to "house train" my "new pet". Something I've said about my little saga, "My Three Olgas", is that there is a bit of reality thrown in for good measure, to kind of blurr the line between fact and fiction.

    Something that swede has often commented on is the manner in which I "allow" "My Three Olgas" to seemingly run amok. This is where a bit of reality enters my fictional soap opera. My real life experiences, particularly with my ex, the dirty little heroin junkie wh@re, leave me to realistically hope to only make two hard and steadfast "rules" for any girl I become involved with. 1) Don't be a junkie. 2) Don't go spreading your legs for anyone but me. After that, it's a matter of deciding if a girl's positives out way her negatives and can you live with them?

    Every guy who goes the FSU/MOB route really needs to stop and take a long hard look at what these girls are really like and not just what the website propaganda tells us. We also need to think about what these sites are telling the girls about WMs and the extravagnt lifestyles we all live. As ham points out in his post, some of these girls really do expect to come west and find themselves living in "Stately Smoks Manor" and their greatest challenge in life being how to lift the platinum amex from our wallets for that shopping spree!!!

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    quote:Originally posted by PeopleSmoks

    As ham points out in his post, some of these girls really do expect to come west and find themselves living in "Stately Smoks Manor" and their greatest challenge in life being how to lift the platinum amex from our wallets for that shopping spree!!!

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    Is that Olga you are talking about? You mean there is no "Stately Smoks Manor"? I have a friend you actually showed his FSU MOB pictures of a few mansions when he was courting her in Russia. He then explained that there weren't pictures of his house, merely pictures of the house he hoped to own someday!!! LOL... he's now in a messy divorce.

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    quote:I have a friend you actually showed his FSU MOB pictures of a few mansions when he was courting her in Russia.
    Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an idiot!!!!! What, did he think his little milashka wouldn't notice the difference when he took her to his apartment in the basement of his parents' house?????[B)]

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    quote:Originally posted by PeopleSmoks
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    quote:I have a friend you actually showed his FSU MOB pictures of a few mansions when he was courting her in Russia.
    Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an idiot!!!!! What, did he think his little milashka wouldn't notice the difference when he took her to his apartment in the basement of his parents' house?????[B)]

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    She finally made him buy her an Airstream that she keeps in town. She goes "home" to his place once a month for conjugal visits (his not hers). Last time I saw him, he seems to be drifting farther into the jaws of alcoholism, but life with a Russian will do that to you eventually.

 

 

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