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    All I can say is 'beep' you swede for making me think after the passed several hours of enjoying my great uncle John's recipie!!!
    quote:TOGETHER matter and antimatter will create chaos or alternatively energy by annihilating each other.
    So chaos as you would define it, only encompasses that which is unknown? Since anything that is known and NOT necessarily that which is in principle contrary to the existance of the known universe, will therefore becomes part of the known universe... But anti-matter as it exists, IS contrary to existance (as we currently understand it to be), should enough of it come into contact with supposedly equal amounts of positive matter only then would the universe acheive nothingness, except a burst of pure energy, as I can invision it to be. So wouldn't such a contrary force be considered part of chaos?
    quote:In my book chaos and void are interchangeable. Chaos is the word usually favored by science, whereas void is more religious. But it means the same: That which is not part of the ordered universe/cosmos. The original "building-stone" of cosmos was chaos, and that's what it'll revert to when the universe collapses.
    In things I've read, the void more or less refers to the "unkonwn" that lies between the known. Basiaclly that part of the universe which science can't measure. That being the lack of total mass to complete their mathematical equations.
    quote:What the ..beeb.. goes on inside a black hole, is as mysterious as a woman's mind. The theory, that baby-universes are born from black holes isn't so fashionable anymore.
    Thus my persoanl theory... Black holes convert solid matter to pure energy. This energy is then stored within the void (chaos), until the central gravitational force of the known univesre collapses upon tiself pulling chaos in with everything else. This energy once fully compressed, matter and anti-matter, is then released, and all the combined energy and everything else (matter) is blown out again, thus the whole process begins anew.

    Referring to the banning of Native American religious practices, swede writes...
    quote:But I think we agree, because what you see as a political aspect (prevention of future uprisings), I see as a cultural/ideological fight.
    In this case, it was one in the same. Politics mandated that the "Indian uprisings" be put to rest in order to secure and further the "manifest destiny" of the United States. To do this design, it was determined that it was necessary to "break" the spirit of the people they wished to oppress. Denying the people of their religious beliefs was the course that was chosen to acheive the desired effect.

    Because recorded European history, as documented in various writings dates back for so many centuries, it is often not realized in today's "civilized" world that Native American history was passed down through generations by the words of the elders to ears of the young. By eliminating the relions and therefore the culture, much has been lost. As I have no children at present, I fear that much of what I have learned will be lost to a failing memory before I can pass it on.

    History is written by the victor. The vanquished can only tell their side of the story by the means available to them.

    It should also be noted that the western tribes were fighting well into the late 1800s. My father is still young enough to have been told stories of the war by his grandfather had we been of a western tribe, so the wounds out there still run pretty deep in the western US! This is another reason for the lack of cultural inter-mingling there. Third world type poverty and no sign of help from the "Great White Father" don't help much either.

    So much for US social programs. Illegal immigrants get more from Uncle Sam than those people do. No predjudice intended, but a Mexican can cross the border and collect social security, a mid-easterner can receive grants to open a convenience store and buy a house, but the people whose land and life were "stolen" are allowed to live in conditions that make them envious of the average underpaid Ukrainian worker.

    swede, I could rant about this subject for weeks if not months, but that's not why we gather here.

    As for my PMS problem, I took a Midol and a jug of uncle John's homemade corn liquor and feel much better. I also know about the excessively extended PMS problem facing some women. As I have had the experience of living with a woman for more than seven years, I learned to drink even more heavily than usual during certain times of the month... And yes, three Olgas is the best way to go, since you never have to worry about calling out the wrong name during the throws of passion!!!


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    PeopleS,

    I hope you understand, that I sympathise very much with the plight of your people, so for me it's only interesting to read your comments. The native american situation is so typical of all the predatory behaviour in human history. And risking being repetitive, I can only see a generally hightened awareness as an answer to this. Not that I have great faith in, that this will happen, but whatever little help any individual can give to make things better is valuable. If everybody leaned back and said: "Well, what can I do?" things would be worse.

    But I would have an open mind for any other suggestions.

    Maybe our little topic here is one of thousands of small streams leading to something. And I think our roaming around in many subjects slowly is turning into a map, where certain landmarks are clear and important.

    Sorry if I spoiled a good binge for you by mindbeeb'ing you into thinking again. But it's better, you get used to it. People in FSU have demonstrated the evolutionary principle in a very special way. Those who can handle booze have outbred those who can't. I once played chess with a guy in Poland, and even after he'd drunk one pint of vodka and 8-10 pints of strong beer, he almost won (I was a decent chessplayer then). After that much I wouldn't have been able to see the chessboard.

    Anyway it's 3 morning here, so I hope you'll excuse me from answering about physics today. I'll do it tomorrow.

    You do have a point about having only Olgas. Never thought of it that way. Do they respond to commands as Olga 1, Olga 2 and Olga 3? Or are they simply taking 8 hours shifts, so it doesn't matter. If they are going to make their $301 a day, they would need time off.

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    swede, I must chuckle a bit as usual before responding to your light-hearted comments, so give me a minute to compose myself if you please.

    First, the slightly more serious topic... As I often ask of folks, did you do anything against the native population of my land? No? Then don't feel bad. It's something that can only be changed from within the prevailing power structure, and since the treatment of my people, especially those still living on reservations in the west, is an embarressment to "The Greatest Nation in the World", such a change will become reality long after you and I have returned to the dust from which we came.

    Absolutely nothing against the Jews, but do you think a movie like Schindler's List would have been made if the Nazis had won???

    On the lighter side, no, you didn't really ruin my little binge. I'm a fully functional raging consumer of alcoholic beverages!!! I'm fully aware of my limitations, like operating a crane (which I can't do 100% sober by the way) to barroom brawling (which drunk or sober I'm what you might call a badger). For the time being, I'll leave our somewhat sexually permissive, transsexual, FSU/MOB scamming heorine's fate in your capable hands. (That's heroine with an "e" on the end, not to be confused with heroin without the "e" on the end, which, we all know by now, was the drug of choice of my skank ex-'beep, beep, beep, beep, beeeeeeeeeeeeep, beep', girlfriend, the dirty little 'beep' that she was!!!

    I also play chess. I love that game! I was taught by my uncle when I was maybe 8 or 9 yo. One of my greatest joys was teaching my ex-girls oldest son to play, and the day I 'beep'ed up and he beat me. (I never let him win.) One of my greatest sorrows is that I will never be able to challenge him again. Maybe we might find an online program that will allow us to engage in a match??? I'm no Bobby Fisher, but I do well enough.

    And yes, having 3 Olgas is much easier name wise, and since they are all happy with 3 square meals a day, 207 channels on cable TV, and only having to split the the cleaning and other household chores three ways, $100 a month, the occassional prada and a swimming pool seems to keep them relatively content... although, I must admit that it is a tad bit disturbing to see them all huddled around the pool shivering in their little thong bikinis in the 30 to 40 degree weather we're having here... Nice N.E.R.T.S. though!!!!



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    Well, Humm I am Interested to see the free shareing of information on this site! I have to admit that it is a breath of fresh and realistic air that all of you voice your opinion's and thought's and they also are Inteligent ones at that! Hehe, most Women I think would feel that we are as a species not this Inteligent, of course due to thier specific upbringing and culture! Well I think I will follow this site with Interest, maybe a great non painless way to Mind Meld? Hehe, No Disrespect Intended People!!!
    I think it is long overdue that Inteligent Men have thier say in this World and I also believe it would be Genuinely Benefical for Women to visit this site and read about True Male feeling's and thought's in the Hope's they would better understand our species and try to understand the daily pressures and inconviences we are all forced to suffer, Humm, another forum maybe? Well, maybe.........
    I simply see Life as a Man this way, Men are many times misunderstood simply because we are Men! We are all of course not the same, there are Flakes, Deciever's, Liar's, Manipulator's, Betrayer's, Womaniser's and so on but Truely we are not the same!! Myself I am a Gentleman and Honorable Man "No I am not bragging", this has been True my entire Life due to my upbringing which was predominantly by my Mother-our Father abandoned us when I was 10 year's old. I have to also admit Truthfully that my Mother was a Very Sweet and Attentive Mother and she was probably the fairest Person I have ever known and also she was Never Quick to Judge so I think I turned out to be a decent and fair Man,Well I think!
    Well People I will be back and view more point's of interest as time passes, Hehe, I have to write My Sweet Heart in Russia a letter, She is expecting me!!
    Take Care and stay Safe!!

    Sincerely,

    Tone

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    Cit. PeopleS:

    "As I often ask of folks, did you do anything against the native population of my land? No? Then don't feel bad. It's something that can only be changed from within the prevailing power structure, and since the treatment of my people, especially those still living on reservations in the west, is an embarressment to "The Greatest Nation in the World", such a change will become reality long after you and I have returned to the dust from which we came."

    Agreed. But the problem is, that the alpha types at the top of the powerstructures mostly survive by the passive acceptance of the brainwashed sheepwalkers. And "revolutions" usually only lead to an exchange of who is topdog, not to a change of powerstructure. That is one of the reasons, I put so much importance on awareness. Even in our, oh so advertised democratic Sweden, there also exists a group of natives, who's had a rough time same as your people. There probably doesn't exist any nation, who hasn't done this sometimes in its history.

    And contrary to popular opinion, I believe that such a situation is partly responsible for the special mindset of russians. They shared the equalent of "the white man's burden" idiocy, only in their case it was the steady indoctrination, that Russia, in its role of prime propagator of communism/socialism, was something special. As with all empires, they developed a national megalomania. This megalomania manifested as arrogance and haughtiness in the average citizen, they have special "rights", they are "superior".

    (And then ofcourse all slavians share some other common traits, good and bad).


    As promised yesterday, I will return to physics, but instead of discussing details of a purely scientific type, I will try to put out my own interpretation. Please notice, that the following is a personal opinion, not a beliefsystem I want to spread in a missionary form.

    I have for years tried to combine the "spiritual"/religious experience with science and arrived to this: In both religion and science existence originates from a state different from that of cosmos (the universe). This original state is alternatively called "the (Buddha)mind", "Brahman", "the unmanifested", "the void", "the stillness", "emptiness" or "god" by religion and "chaos" by science. Different opinions exist about the character of this state, whether it's something abstract like a "mind" (giving birth to theories that the resulting universe is a hologram or a dream) or it's a vacum, a total emptiness. (Personally I believe, that the "mind"theory is correct).

    Something or someone made a change in this original state, and the result is the manifested universe(multiverse?)/cosmos. In science this event is called the big bang. I will not go into the various religious models of this change, but stick with the scientific one, because it's fairly well known to most people. The state before the big bang is in some ways in equilibrium, sometimes described as enthropy (or homogeneous). That is, seen from a matter point-of-view; if it's considered from an abstract point-of-view as a mind/mental state, maybe it's not enthropy (but it can still be in equilibrium).

    I know this is a tough one, so maybe forget it and look at a more simple model. Before the big bang there was "harmony" (balance) and after ........? Science says, that the original enthropy was changed into space/time and matter/energy, with what we call "natural laws" regulating everything. This is the everyday experience, we have of the universe. But the closer we get back towards the big bang, the less manifested is space/time, matter/energy and the natural laws. In quantum physics matter/energy is f.ex. described as something almost abstract, it being a result of a kind of vibrations. So at one level the universe as we know it, doesn't really exist.

    Again I will revert to ordinary language and perception and use a simplistic model. The original state (chaos) was changed into a lot of different manifestations. All with some characteristics. Matter or energy, space or time, forces like electromagnetism, gravity etc. ALL of these parts of universal existence are charged in different ways, they have different polarities (like electric plus or minus charge f.ex.) and they all attract or repel each other. From thew scientific point-of-view the attraction of differently charged parts will eventually result in a reversal to enthropy. Alternatively the natural laws will "wear down" (as strange as this may sound).

    For me the aspect of attraction (alt. repulsion) is central. Differently charged parts of the universe can be completely symmetrical with each other, with the same charge, only opposite. When they meet, they can create either a symbiosis, co-existing in equilibrium or annihilate each other into a return to a zeropoint (chaos/enthropy).

    OR: Oppositely charged parts of the universe can be assymetric and not meet in balance. At the microscopic level (atoms, subatoms) this is a fairly simple process, but when we get to the molecular level or above (as f.ex. biological beings) it's far more complex. Too many factors are involved to make a harmonious/balanced meeting automatic.

    Thanks reader for hanging on so far. Now I'll get back to something more normal and understandable, returning to the subject of scamming, but with a small detour to symbiosis and predation. If two biological beings meet in symmetry, we have symbiosis. If they meet in assymmetry we have predation, because both parts want something. They want to find their opposite polarities, and if they are not in "harmony" (balance, symmetry, equilibrium) the stronger will absorb (eat) the weaker.

    You can find examples from the individual level up to ideologies. Everybody wants something, but seldom finding the perfect opposite to create harmony with, we soon start being predators. Put in another word: We are greedy (in each our own way).

    Emotional or sexual attraction are very good examples of a search for polarity. That it seldom functions as hoped for, is the origin of this forum. And to grumble about the injustice of life isn't the answer, because things are as they are. If we want any change, we must make it ourselves.

    I have made suggestions as how to make such changes, but I fear, that I'm a bit too esoteric for a general communication. So maybe the phenomena of emotional and sexual attraction can be illustrative, so I suggest some deeper delving into that.

    (Concerning sexual subjects we have got a new supply of authorised beebs, which everybody can feel free to use, if their posts get too juicy for publication).


    By the way PeopleS. What is NERTS? Something 'beeb'y'?

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    Hi Tone,

    thanks for your nice contribution. Hopefully we'll see more of you here.
    So wellcome, and feel free to take up anything you want. I'm quite sure you will not use words like 'beeb' or even worse 'beeb' which is our only restriction here (voluntary made by all visitors sofar, we can't force anyone).

    Regards

    Swede

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    Hey swede! I only stopped home for lunch, so I don't have time to really get into your last posting other than to tell you that N.E.R.T.S. means Nipple Erection Right Through the Shirt... Or in the case of the three Olgas, through their skimpy bikini tops![:0][]
    It is something that tends to happen to young ladies when it's a little cold out.[8D]

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    Why is it, that americans always have this obsession about anything connected with milk?

    Being danish originally, it was almost like growing up in a dairy, and I never met anything like that.

    PeopleS, stick to your family-moonshine like a man and order all the three Olgas to wear their N.C.D. (nipple camouflage devices) or you're a lost case. Milk is a terrible thing, it has led stronger men than you or me to ruin.

    STAY AWAY FROM THE STUF (and anything associated with it).

    In any case the Olgas will maybe be a bit warmer with their N.C.D.s on.


    PS Tone, you'll get used to us with time.

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    quote:As with all empires, they developed a national megalomania. This megalomania manifested as arrogance and haughtiness in the average citizen, they have special "rights", they are "superior".
    Sounds like you're talking about the US... it fits. As I've long said, Russians and Americans aren't that terribly different in many ways. And as you said, it spills over to the rest of the FSU in one form or another.

    I don't think the women are really that different either in many ways. Maybe they're generally a step or two up on American women, but the FSU also considers scamming to be a business, and in some ways have taken it to the level of the telemarketer, with mass mailings etc.
    quote:I have for years tried to combine the "spiritual"/religious experience with science... Something or someone made a change in this original state, and the result is the manifested universe(multiverse?)/cosmos. In science this event is called the big bang.
    Now you sound a little like me. You see, my whole problem with trying to find the mathematical equation for "EVERYTHING" is that, how do you assign a number to what you call chaos?
    My other problem is the perpetual insistance that everything came from the "Big Bang". Okay... So what caused the bang? What created all of these elements and atoms that were then thrown outward in this bang? If chaos is also refered to as nothingness, I say that no thing can come from nothing.

    So basically, my personal beliefs are that somewhere down that mathematical path of science, it will all lead to what some wish to cal "Itelligent Design". I truly feel it's an unavoidable conclusion.

    Of course the next logical question might be, where did this intelligence come from? Oh what a twisted road to go down!!!

    Tone, welcome to the think tank. As swede has said, we generally make a solid attempt at expressing ourselves without the use of vulgarities... and no spitting on the floor!!! But as you can tell by the on going saga of our favorite little FSU/MOB, sexually permisive, transsexual scam artist, Elena (formerly known as Boris) and my three Olgas, we still like to have fun. From what you've said, you seem a bit like me in that you're making an honest search for that special girl and not out to play games. Good luck and be careful!



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    Today was a bit of a tragedy for the three Olgas when they learned that what they thought was another insightful American reality TV show was actually just reruns of "Green Acres" on the TV Land channel. I feel bad for the Olgas, but to be honest, I was getting pretty sick of pancakes every night for dinner. The Olgas cried for hours at the revelation, which nearly became a tragedy all it's own when their tears froze to their faces and then to each others faces as they huddled, shivering and crying by the swimming pool in their thong bikinis complete with NERTS!!! swede, I'm sure I'll get around to buying them all NCDs sooner or later???

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