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    quote:Another installment is on the table and will be ready for public viewing soon.
    Give me the URL for your three Olgas, People. I have a "FSU MOB" series posted at another site. It's probably too racy for Swede's tastes, which is kind of strange, since Sweden is synonymous with sexuality here in the states. I even read this week that, "Supporters of the Stockholm-based AIK ice hockey team scored an unusual hat trick of heckling on Tuesday night featuring dildos, profane banners, and a giant inflatable penis." Hasn't happened at the Stanley Cup yet, but looking forward to it.


    quote:I've had some contact with WM marrying thai or chinese women, and these men give a complete different picture, than those having FSU contacts. The thai or chinese women seem to manifest some contentment about their bettered material situation, and their attitude to marriage (or equalent relationships) is much more stable and durable, than the FSUW. Besides they also are willing to accept 'humble' starting conditions in their new lives; it's not an immediate craving for status and luxury from the first day. So there are different ways of reacting to a 'better' life.
    Agree with you again, Swede. I've mentioned my friend who married a Chinese girl. She does the work of four men, manages the household and his business with remarkable efficiency. She's turned my laid back beer swilling running bud into a responsible, tight assed, success story. I'm amazed (and a little scared) at the transformation. She absolutely refuses to let him waste money on anything. He hit a bump in the road recently and was worried about making the mortgage payment. That's when she revealed he had a secret savings account with a $75,000 balance, that she'd been squirreling away for years. She even asked him if he was "angry" with her for doing that!

    Give me a Zhen, a Hui, and a Ju and we'll battle three Olgas any day. How about a mud wrestling cage match? Loser has to leave this forum forever. [8D]

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    Hi Prometheus,

    I was afraid, that you'd been caught up in a re-union frenzy. Such is traditional in breaking-ups of long-standing relationships, and is very embarrasing for all parts implied. Not least onlookers or confidants, who are supposed to be able to change opinions on a daily basis concerning the various pro and contras in the situation..

    But you sound sane.

    Don't believe, that I'm a prude. If the 'Kama Sutra' was to be written today, I could suggest an idea or two to its content. It's only, that there are some activities so private, intimate and even 'spiritual' (tantric sex), that I consider it crude and vulgar to have sandbox communication about it. In the end an attitude of infantile hypocrisy, sniggering around the subject, will diminish the act itself, when it turns up.

    It's about the same, as when someone changes drinking into a competitive sport: "Oh boy, I had 18 pints of XXX last night, and how I puked....", as if this is a demonstration of macho supremacy.

    Concerning my nativity, I'm happy to say, that I'm born danish and left for Sweden between 25-30 years of age. Swedish sexuality is, like swedish political 'liberalism', a small masterpiece of international disinformation manipulation. Even including US women, swedish women are the least sexually functioning females on this planet (with strong resemblances to US women, only worse). I can only recommend them to someone who has an active wish for boredom, frustration and becoming a superwimp.

    Chinese. I once met this really unattractive western guy; fat, sneaky, unreliable (also to his friends), with a developed inability to keep a job and even being badly motivated for having one at first place. He was (is) married to this really cute chinese 'petite', whom he treated like 'beeb'. She stayed on, also after having her european equalent of a green card. And she didn't strike me as doing this because of strong masochistic tendencies. She was just married, end of discussion.

    If I ever get around to searching for a new life-partner, I will certainly look in that direction. A supportive, sweet woman, not using half of her life on spending sprees, and the other half complaining about her hard lot. Ahhh, it sounds like heaven on earth.

    Sorry, I'm not much for mudwrestling. It looks messy.

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    Hey guys! Ahhhhhhhhhh! My dear friend Prometheus, apparently you don't follow p-babbling very closely? "My Three Olgas" has been an on-going saga here within these hallowed pages for quite some time. It's a continuing mellow dramatic story based in fantasy... or is it? Despite the seemingly non-sensicle references to the bizarre habits of FSUWs living in the US, more and more, what started out as non-sense appears to have some basis in reality. I finished work early today, and have already begun the process of properly lubricating my brain cells, so I may have something a bit later?

    These are my thoughts as to why Chinese girls may be so accomodating. I really hope for some feedback... even if you think I'm way off the mark, as we all agree, this thread is an exchange of thoughts, opinions, information and ideas.

    I think it could simply be a two fold cultural thing for these Chinese girls to have such behavioral tendencies. The policies of bearing male children for so many years, may have placed a psychological stigma in the minds of so many Chinese women that they hold a greater value as an individual outside of the borders of China. Also, they know that despite the fact that abortion is legal in the US and other western countries, aborting a fetus simply because it is female is not normal practice, nor is it accepted socially.

    Perhaps I'm wrong, but it has been my impression that Chinese women are treated similarly to the women in a number of Muslim countries. That being that they face overwhelming odds when it comes to job competion with male counterparts, as well as a general lesser valuing within their native society. Women are still second class citizens in China.

    Deep rooted teachings of female social graces as defined by a male dominated culture also seem to mold these women toward a more demur nature. Okay, these are my thoughts, someone please correct me!

    swede, don't worry, I'll do my best to keep "My Three Olgas" to a PG-13 rating. The union censors have signed a new agreement with management, and the 'beeps' are once again in abundance and ready for use! Besides, like an truely mindful humorist of days gone by, I feel that well placed innuendo can be even more affective than blatant obescenity anytime!

    As for the mud wrestling... here in Jersey, we prefer Jello, and we also prefer that the combatants be two (or more) buxom strippers wearing slingshots!!![:0][][8D]

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    PeopleS,

    just before I went to psychobabbling and saw your latest post, I spent an instructive hour or so on my old waterhole 'matchdoctor', which is a completely free site, and to my knowledge neither less nor more scammer infected than the average site.

    Admittedly my present marriage soon will be turned into a relationship, and I still have some moral obligations concerning faithfulness, but I do not consider taking a look with no further action as a terrible sin. I actually think of it as a kind of 'research' for this forum, as I would like to know, what I'm talking about.

    In any case. In the agegroup suitable for me, 45-65, I found app a dozen ukrainian women, most of whom hadn't been active for long periods. A couple of them I recognized from a year or two ago, and they smelled like scammers. Far too sirapy.

    In the equalent chinese agegroup, there were app 1000 women, and at least 100 of them had been active in the last three days.

    While the chinese women aren't so 'sexy' in the sometimes even provocatively and vulgar way UA and russian women can be, they nonetheless often posses a fragile beauty. Sadly they seem to fade earlier than FSUW, but in my case I've had my share of stunners with psycho personalities, both european and FSU, so I could very well think of relating to someone with a bit less outer beauty, if the inner beauty was correspondingly bigger.

    Ofcourse the personality descriptions contained a lot of the, nowadays probably unavoidable, flowery language, but a certain percent of the profiles mentioned 'good worker' as one of their positive traits, which I consider a good sign. Someone willing to work will likely also be able to take some personal responsibility.

    PeopleS, I guess that my knowledge of marital customs in China is about as small as yours. I once, years ago, had a rather long communication with a chinese women, a lawyer some ten years younger than me, and she seemed really straight. Except for one point, which made me terminate the relationship. She started out with rather old photos, and as our contact deepened, she sent me more and more recently taken photos. It's not such a bad thing to do, but it was enough to make me think twice, before getting real involved.

    As far as I know, the traditional family pattern still playes a big role in all of China, with the older males having a higher status than women and children, but I don't think it's quite as bad as an some arabian cultures. At least not in the bigger chinese cities, where emancipation is growing. And I have firsthand information about urban chinese women, who exactly because of the preference of male babies, make up a considerably smaller percentual group than their potential male suitors. These chinese women can be, and often are, very choosy and demanding in their choice of a future partner. I do not know for certain, but I guess, that forcebly arranged marriages isn't so common in the urban China, as it used to be.

    But still, I think they have a deeper roted steadiness concerning marriage, once it's done, than their sisters in FSUW.

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    Well, if you want to see my Asian fantasy Google: "little asian Jin volume 3" (be sure to put the quotations marks around it). There's a volume one and two also. Smoking hot sexy Asian girl. Her boyfriend must feel like the luckiest guy on the planet.

    My friend's wife has a sister. They got me in touch with her and we started corresponding by email. Very slender, very meek, seemingly the submissive type. After a week or two I said something along the lines of "if you had a rough day at work, i'd love to give you a back rub" or something. She completely freaked out on me. Said she's a "traditional Chinese girl" and she does not speak of such things with a man, etc., etc.

    I asked my friend about it later, and he was like "you've really got to be careful about what you say to old school Chinese women. They don't speak of anything that could be construed to be sexual. My own friend has confided that after a good start, his sex life has more or less dried up too, but at least she's not out spending his money like Sarah Palin with a credit card.

    So when you really get down to it, it's just a question of the male myth, the rare doe, the goodlooking girl who thinks she's ugly. Where does a guy find a quiet, submissive woman who's June Cleaver in the kitchen and Ginger Lynn in the bedroom? With all the money floating around out there, don't you think some scientist could cook one up?

    Back to Asian Jin. My friend used to say, "Show me a smoking hot girl, and somewhere I'll show you a guy who is just sick of f*cking her." It is so true. Sad, but true.

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    At the beginning of psychobabbling, PeopleS and I once exchanged a few posts about politeness and decency, and I believe, I said something about mistaking rudeness for straightforwardness.

    The question is to find the 'proper' language in a culture. After that, I believe, you can say almost anything. Maybe it's acceptable to say: "Will you be my opening lotus-blossom?" to a chinese woman, and she will giggle and be flattered, while you actually have said something incredibly suggestively pornographic. I don't know, I've never tried, really, but I don't think, it would be offensive.

    After I met my first polish wife, and started to live together with her (in the biblical sense), she at one time mentioned, that "she was not feeling at her best just now". After a few efforts of finding out, if she was ill, I simply asked her, if she had her period. She was genuinely shocked; women and men 'don't talk about such things together'. And she wasn't a prude otherwise. In physically intimate situations, she showed few or no inhibitions.

    Usually I'm averse to pornography, mostly because the quality (in any sense of the word) is so miserably low. Why anyone can find pleasure in f.ex. looking at some sexual acrobats, who look as if they have come straight from a lobotomy, is beyond me.

    But I have met a few exceptions in pronographic books, all of them originating from some asian country. Their approach is very different from the standard western; the same difference you'd meet in reading thrillers written by John le Carr? and Mickey Spillane. Or a homecooked meal compared to a micro'ed TV dinner.

    Vulgarity and gluttony is at best two-dimensional, real erotica can be like a symphony, where you can find new dimensions all the time.

    In any case you'd probably have the same reaction, if you'd suggested a back-rubbing to a fundamentalist christian female. With a slight exaggeration, it's my impression, that some of these people take a bath with their clothes on, because exposed skin is an abomination in the eyes of the un-intelligent designer of the universe.

    I think, that tantric sex possibly could be a subject of interest here on psychobabbling. The art of changing sex from an assembly-line like activity into a deep meeting between bodies, hearts and even 'souls'.


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    When you mention Tantric sex Swede, I am reminded of Sex in the City star Kim Cattrall, who played a very oversexed women on the popular HBO show. Seems her character's overt sexuality spilt over into her personal life, and her significant other suggested that she write a book "for lovers." So we got this very poorly written work called "Satisfaction: The Art of the Female Orgasm." Basically a book about how to please a woman with your tongue.

    She followed up that train wreck (you can buy a copy for $0.08 used on Amazon), with a coffee table book called "Sexual Intelligence." Publishers Weekly described it as follows: "Cattrall, aka the seductive Samantha Jones on Sex and the City, has wound up producing a weird mix of art book and sex manual, addressing the roots of desire, messaging, arousal, fantasy and "release."

    So the overtly sexual actress and sex manual author divorced only a year later from her husband and co-author, Mark Levinson. In the divorce Levinson said that Cattrall was actually pretty bad in bed. Cattrall summed up the divorce as "worse than death." This after she waxed poetic in two books about the most "fabulous" sex of her life with Levinson. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read.

    As for tantric sex, one commentator noted, "As tantric practice became known in western culture?a development that started at the end of the 18th century, and that has escalated since the 1960s?it has become identified with its sexual methods. Consequently, its essential nature as spiritual practice is often overlooked."

    As a spiritual pursuit, I am sure Tantra and Neotantra could be fulfilling if both parties were properly schooled and adherents to the essentially spiritual nature of the practice. I'm still looking for a woman who will go to church with me.

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    "Oh, ye of little faith",

    Prometheus, it would make me very sad, if you believed, that I would tarnish Psychobabbling by dishing out new-age pop-culture here.

    I'm aware of Tantra being an autonom religion, and I acknowledge it as that. But as the gods and I have a silent agreement, that we ignore each others existence (they don't like smartasses, and I don't like wannabe creators), I haven't any intention of getting involved in organised religion at my time of life.

    And even if I did, Tantric theology is far too life-affirming to me. I would prefer something gloomy. Though not the fire and brimstone variety, which is just a special kind of mental illness, and I'm weird enough as it is. But something very intellectual and filled with "woes", selfpity and introspection.

    So I approach tantric sex the same way as some people practise yoga. You don't have to be a hindu to do yoga, and it still functions. And in any case I'm not negative to what popularly is called 'sprituality' (if no gods are involved). Tantric sex can easily be used together with other kind of ideological/spiritual systems, though I suspect, that the original tantrics would like to have some copyright on it.

    The thing is, that sexuality by itself creates a field, just like emotions and intellect do. (I call it a field, to avoid endless discussions about what came first: Sex, love, intellect or glands. It's the same with particles and energy, they can be both, but the idea of a field stops too much meaningless talking).

    The sexual 'field' can, if used properly, lead to very strong results, both considered from a sexual, communication and spiritual angle. What most people do, when they believe they have sex, is usually just a few percent of the real thing.

    To perform tantric sex, you actually don't need much schooling. Mastering attention, inner silence and concentration should be enough, and learning this only takes 10-15 years, which when it comes to the point, isn't that much compared to what some people do just to get laid, even badly.

    But as you correctly pointed out, finding a suitable partner can be a problem, and inflatable plastic dolls aren't really a good substitute. Their sexual field is somewhat lacking (though they probably can be useful in other situations than tantric sex). But now and then, you actually see women seeking tantric partners on various dating-sites. So it's not completely hopeless.

    Digression.

    Why on earth would you want to drag a woman to a church? Is this some twisted way of getting laid?

    WARNING: My following posts will contain material of adult character, so clear your calendar with the aim of staying glued to psychobabbling the next few days.

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    Actually Swede, America has a horrible record for taking every good thing and turning into something bad. Yoga is one example. You have 1,000's of twenty something, thong clad, NERTS displaying "yoga instructors" in this country, who know NOTHING about yoga and who have merely bastardized it into another chance to show how far up your a$$ your leotards will climb (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    So I would suggest that employing tantric techinques purely for physical gratification, is a bastardization of what tantra and neotantra are about in the first place. Thus, by definition, they are neither. It could be called a "tantra-like" or "tantra-invoking" experience, but not tantra.

    Funny that there are singles ads looking for tantra partners. Why not just study at the temple, learn the spiritual practices, and have faith that a like minded partner will present herself in the divine order of things? Oh, I forgot, that would require FAITH (another thing that Americans love to talk about and have very little real experience with).

    PeopleS, I'm watching your man McCain and his Soccer MILF self destruct day by day. Did you catch the interview where she could not name a single newspaper she reads on a regular basis? I am hoping that an Obama win next week will turn the page to a new chapter in our country's history. Then again, I may have more in common with Viktor Chernomyrdin than I care to admit: "We hoped for the best, but things turned out as usual.?

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    Hey guys!
    quote:I'm still looking for a woman who will go to church with me.
    Um, have you tried looking for this type of girl in... A CHURCH???[)] Or, if you prefer the young ones, you could try your local Catholic school!!![:0]

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