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  1. #1
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    Default Donetsk (UADreams)

    Anyone got any comments about it. See a reference to a Marina (Krasnodar)in another office. There is a Marina in the Donetsk office

    Have been corresponding to a Lady, that was first on UALadys and is now on UADreams. Was going to visit Donetsk in March, but she has gone to Germany to work, but we are still corresponding, not so much.

    Anyone had any good experiences. UAladys.com have said that they will refund my unused credits as the refuse to transfer to UADreams. See their web site is down today for maintainence!

    j.nichols

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    Hey j.nichols! First of all, Marina is a fairly common name in the FSU, so that alone doesn't mean a thing. There are probably 4 or 5 Marinas in every office. A Ukrainian finding work in another country isn't uncommon either, considering the employment situation there.

    What is a bit troublesome is the timing of this girls move to Germany, just as you plan to visit her. It's possible that this was her one big opportunity and that she had been hoping for this job for some time, but it's also been fairly well documented that a great number of UALadys tend to disappear when a guy decides to go meet them.[V]

    Sometimes, it happens when you show up at the UA office looking for the girl, and then someone tells you that she had to go home (usually in another city) to take care of her sick granny. Then comes the offer to introduce you to a different girl.. for a nominal fee of course.

    I'm surprised they didn't wait for you to knock on the door and do that bait and switch routine to you???

    Train returns

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    those pictures seem the first few of a raging nude pictorial...
    why would such a tramp be interested in any average man met over the internet?
    Also, Germany (Israel, Cyprus, Turkey, Switzerland... ) are packed with brothels... not surprised she would "work" there...
    Or -if you prefer- [)] she works as nanny cleaning after a little, wheelchair-bound old lady with Alzheimer's while saving herself for you...
    [)][:0]

    Let's get real men!
    And she says her body is all she's got...so she must make hay while the sun shines...and fast bucks for pretty tramps still come in one currency...

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    I'm not sure what pics you refer to since lotuseuropa didn't put up any or a link? So I can't comment on "raging nude pictorial..." as you put it.

    I may be having another PMS attack as you might wish to put it, but calling a girl a tramp solely by using the information that she's attractive and went to Germany seems a bit judgmental.

    Amsterdam is also full of brothels, as are Austria, Czech Republic and the US. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Italy has a few brothels too. And let's not forget Kyiv, which has it's fair share and wouldn't require a passport. If an attractive girl from Ukraine goes to one of these countries or Kyiv, does that automatically mean she went there to work as a prostitute? Maybe she saw a photo of a swimming pool that caught her eye? Although not so many in Kyiv...

    It also seems to reflect on your personal self-lothing to infer that lotuseuropa wouldn't be worth the attention of an attractive girl, based solely on your own unhappy experiences with attractive women.

    Sure it's possible that this girl is now working as a prostitute, but it's also possible she's changing 98 yo Gertrude Wagner's diaper right now too. Or she may have been nothing more than a UALadys "ringer" to attract customers. Regardless of her actual intentions, it's still pretty insulting to make the inrerence that lotuseuropa and others don't have a chance with an attractive girl simply because you got sh!t on.



    Train returns

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    Ham,

    in general I agree with you, based on my own experience. A majority of the cyberdating FSUW is probably only into it for money, a green card or something like that. But I think, that saying that all of them are like that, is an untenable generalisation, which at least doesn't fit with ALL the FSUW I've had contact with.


    I made friends with some of them, and in some cases we stayed in contact for prolonged periods (up to a couple of years). Some sent me details about their later contacts and asked for information of why western men sometimes seem to behave so idiotic, and some had communication with me about the subjects, I have taken up elsewhere here. You don't keep up that depth of contact if you're a scammer. Some told me, that they would give up cyberdating because of the sextourists.


    One contact I visited in her home, and her private livingstandard was above what is average in the west. All based on a job, not on scamming. She didn't even seem very eager to relocate, when we talked about starting a relationship.


    So good FSUW do exist, even on the web. You only have to find them, which could pose a problem.


    Concerning your idea, that a goodlooking, somewhat younger woman doesn't want an older partner is also only partly true. A considerable part of my friends are married to 10-20 years local, younger women. And these men are neither extremely rich or especially handsome. Women are much less interested in outer appearances in their men, than men are in the looks of women. What I've been told (by women)is a very important factor, is a man's personality.


    That a FSUW declares that her body is her biggest asset, doesn't automatically make her into a bad person.

    "quote:I try to take care of my body and face. I know it is all I have. My soul may have any itnterst for you later, I thinkso.I am not a little girl and I know that at first almost all men look at body, legs and face. God created males such persons"


    I can respect a woman saying this, because it shows a high degree of realism. Just take a look at all the slurping and drooling going on, when women are commented upon here. Besides she doesn't deny possibility of different levels of contact later.


    That FSUW in general can be a scheming, ..beeb.. arrogant bunch of mythomaniacs, living in their own personal fantasies most of the time, I do not deny. But so do american and a growing amount of westeuropean women also, though not to such a degree.

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    Humm, Well Hello again to all! I read this article and felt compelled to address it!
    Firstly, there are a few Genuine Reason's why middle aged Men seek a Woman as a Wife from another country other then the US! Simply we are Fed Up with and Tired of American Women's Attitude Problem's, Baggage, Drama and Ceaseless Games, most Inteligent American Men want a Old Fashioned type of Lady for a Wife-Truely!! Well at least the Good Guy's do!! We "The Gentleman of America" need a Good and Patient Woman! A Woman with Moral's, Ethic's, Integrity and Honor in addition to Unbreakable Loyalty!! Well, seem's these type's of Women here in America are few and far between if at all even available!!!! Soooo, we have to look elsewhere unless we all intend to be alone for the rest of our Lives!! I do not Wish to be alone the rest of my Life and I try to be Optimistic regarding finding My Soul Mate!! I know this may sound Mushy to some of You but I Never Lie and I Alway's tell the Truth-Alway's!!!! I mean come on let's be real here, American Women have so many more right's then Men do that now they have become Arrogant and Overly Self Serveing and I of course do not say this about all American Women but Unfortuately this is the Majority of Women here, not the Minority!! I can not speak for all of the Men here but I certainly get tired of seeing the Bad Boy's with all the Prizes, Humm, get my meaning Guy's?? Well I think that I have now maybe opended a Pandora's box however I am a Man of Courage and Belief's as to what is right and wrong and to me what was wrong 20 year's ago is still wrong today! Why should I change my Ehtic's because of the World as it is today? I must change and adapt Yes to current society but Never Succumb to Irrelevant Rhetoric that now a day's the masses seem to think is Just and Right!! Clear enough I think!
    I Wished to add something here that I have not done befor, there is another area in this World where scammer's are abundent! Humm, The Phillipines! Check out cheeryblossom's.com or better yet asiancammodels.com! The later is as Cyber Sex site if you are so inclined to go there and there are many Incredibly Beautiful Young Women there, of course this site is different!! These Ladies are so Impoverished they sell showing their bodies for money, mainly because they are supporting thier Families back home-Most are from various provinces and are not from Manila or the surrounding area's! I have to admit that Filipina's are Beautiful Women, of course if you would not mind a Asian Wife or Asawa as is there name in Tagalog! Many of these poor Women only want a better Life and it is easy to Understand why,due to more than 70% of the country is well below American poverty level! Manytry to survive on as little as $40.00 USD per month, obviously not very much money and certainly much less Hope of haveing a Good Future Life!! Well I think we all see that there are many more country's where Women are needy than just the Ukraine or Russia and many other country's!! Unfortuanetly these same Women are desperate in these country's and only seek to survive and live a decent Life, I guess this is why sometimes I get alittle angry when American Women complain-Humm, they really do not have it bad like many other Women in this World, Truely!!
    Well I welocme all of your opinion's and Hope this article of mine has opened a few eyes, if not mind's also!!

    Sincerely,

    Tone

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    Tone,

    I haven't had much face-to-face contact with american women, maybe a couple of dozen altogether in my life. On the other hand a lot of information of them has reached me in various other ways over the years. So at least I can voice an opinion, but without pretending to be an expert.


    I feel, that your description of the average american woman is correct, though I in daily life would trust her more than a FSUW. American women seem to be more coherent and not so apt to this mix of fantasizing, daydreaming and half-lying. Though when it comes to greed and status-seeking, I believe the american and FSU woman is alike. Maybe with the difference, that the american woman would be ambitious about getting a good job herself and earn some of the money needed. In a divorce-court I've heard, that american women are spawns from hell (but I guess a FSUW would be the same after a few years in the west. My first polish wife tried to take me to the cleaners, in spite of a nuptual agreement). When it comes to pushyness, the eastern women can be just as intolerable. They are far from the meek little cuties, we so often see in profiles, and once they are settled in a relationship, they are apt to lean back and let the man be the supplier. And nag at the same time.


    That would be fine with me (apart from the nagging), if it wasn't that they are not so good housekeepers, as they pretend from the start. Ofcourse a woman will always bring this special extra feeling to any place she lives in, but I have yet to meet a FSUW, who could make her home attractive (even when money for it existed). I have lived most of my grown-up life in rather simple conditions, but I always take a pride in arranging whatever I live in as pleasant as possible. Both from a practical and estetical point of view. And usually at a small cost. Don't expect a FSUW to do that. It will at best be piles of postcards, halfburned candles, memorabilia and tourist knick-knacks spread out at irregular intervals.


    Occasionally I make a statistical survey of international dating sites (not specialising in FSU) and it seems to me, that even statistically, american women are over-represented. In my own cyberdating period, I was often approached by american women, who in spite of being somewhat lukewarm about relationships, nonetheless were very good correspondents. But maybe a scandinave would be "exotic" to an american woman?


    Without being unduly proud of my own part of the world, I would say, that I find westeuropean women generally much more acceptable than the american or FSU. Maybe not always so beautiful, but they are SO much easier to get along with. But that has been a late lesson in my life.


    For once I've not tried to make a point in a post, but just let my thoughts roam. Hope I'll be excused.

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    Hi Swede!

    Good article and nicely written! True I think that your opinion's regarding American Women can at times be correct and you are also correct that you being from another country is probably of interest to them. My comment's in general are alittle more in tune with the majority rather than the minority and of course thru my eyes and experiences! I tend to think I am an easying going person so alot of Drama from any Woman no matter where she is from is a Gigantic Turn Off for me and after that begin's Her Beauty begin's to slowly fade!! I have to admit that many Beautiful Women I have met here tend to know they are Beautiful and use thier Beauty allmost as a tool to get them what they want, of course Arrogance and Self Serveing Attitude come in to Play also! Let me simply say this, for me to be exact versus highlighting my bordom with American Women we would need about 1+ year's of daily correspondance and also I am Very Firm on Mutual Respect and if I do not recieve it, Well as we say here in America there is the door!! I have to admit that My Lady in Russia so far has been totaly Respectful to me at all times just as I am to Her also! I have to also say that many times She has been Patient and Understanding toward's me and She alway's has a Inteligent answer to all of my question's and also Inteligent opinion's as Well! Well to say that She is My Dream come True somehow seem's to be an Understatement!! She is the only one out of many I corresponded with where we just clicked immediately so I personaly feel I have found the right Lady for me, at least at this time! I of course am also a Realist so I am fully aware that as time passes changes will occur whether Good or Bad! Well, I Hope I have not bored you, I guess you could call this entry kind of a personal update! Take Care!

    Sincerely,

    Tone

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    Hope your contact will be one of those who prove, that it IS possible
    to meet a straight girl in FSU.

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    Hi Swede!

    Thank You for your Positive Good Wishes regarding my ongoing relationship with my Lady in Russia! I guess I have alway's been somewhat of an Optimist but with learned caution thru my experiences in Life. I think of my situation and courtship this way, She is either Real and Totaly as represented or She is the Best Scammer I have ever come accross!! Well, I think I will Never know for sure until I am with Her and I also believe I will know exactly who She is Truely within a few day's or maybe a week after my arrival! Being in sales most of my Life I have learned to Understand People quickly by not only thier body language but also thier behavior and facial expression's or lack there of!! Well I have to Truthfully say so far She has done nothing wrong so I have to give to Her benefit of the doubt and have Faith in Her Sincereity and Honesty! Well, Her and I have been corresponding for more than 8 month's "Long story why I have been delayed in coming to Her" and She Promises to wait for me and Never Give Up so I am Hopeful as long as Her Attitude and Behavior is Consistant! Well I have much more to say but I donot Wish to bore anyone here-Hehehe!!
    Once again Swede TY for your Wishes, I Appreciate it!!

    Sincerely,

    Tone

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