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  1. #1
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    Default Video chat and gifts

    My greetings and salutations to all those who may bother to read this.

    There are a couple of things that I've noticed the past few months that have brought me to write this. I'll get straight to the point...

    First is something I've noticed that appears is becoming a big time money maker on pay sites is video chat. For years, we have all warned and been warned about the fake profiles and the evil Boris who stole or paid a model for the photos we see of beautiful FSUWs who want us for "love and romance". We've been trained, so to speak, to only believe our eyes and never to send money to someone we have never met.

    Well, guess what? Now, we can meet the girl behind the photos by purchasing pricey 'credits' for a video chat session with the girl of our dreams. See the girl, ask her questions, get her answers and interact with her through the magic of... VIDEO CHAT!!!

    And, it sounds like a great idea, except for the expense, and it is expensive. Hey, I've tried it! Yup, the girls are real. They blow you kisses, will do an impromptu fashion modelling session to show you the outfit they're wearing, and even put on a little dance to show you how much they like you. They will most certainly keep your attention as the credits you bought click off into the pockets of the site owners.

    For some guys, this might actually be a good deal. Let's face it, there are plenty of guys who will never actually get on a plane and fly out to really meet his FSU honey and this is as close as he will ever get to her. But, the point is that the websites are making a fortune!

    I've often talked about exclusivity of girls and sites/ agencies. Generally, these girls apply to a local 'agency' in their home city. The 'agency' then makes deals with various websites for the rights to have their girls displayed on the websites. Are the local agencies paid by the websites? Are the girls paid by the agencies? I'm sure there are a few ringers in every bunch. Is your girl one of them? It's almost impossible to tell.

    Many of the girls will sit standby, online at the local agency for hours as though they are working a shift, happily chatting with anyone who clicks onto them. Also, it's not uncommon for lengthy pauses between her replies to what you wrote. You may see her typing, but you don't see her message... "YOUR GIRL" is also writing to ten other guys dude!

    Video is the cash cow of a few newer sites like Drem Marriage and Hot Russian Brides. A name says a lot guys. I also have seen were established sites like Anastasia are going video. They go the high brow approach by offering exclusive chat sessions with your girl. Drop them a request and they will arrange for your girl to meet you in a virtual date.

    I give honorable... make that dishonorable mention to three way calling between you, your FSU babe and an interpreter... the hook is "Hear your girl's voice. Hear her say sweet nothings directly to you and only you in her native language through an interpreter. Also a bit expensive.

    The second part of my mini rant pertains to gifts. A serious man will of course shower his beloved with gifts! Right? A quick breakdown of recent holidays... Western Christmas Dec 25th. Your FSU goddess will be expecting to be indoctrinated into your western traditions, so make sure you send flowers or something. New Years... If you don't already know, Orthodox New Years is the tradition day when Dyed Moroz (Gradfather Frost or the Orthodox equivilant to Santa) makes his visit. Gotta send her something if you're really serious about her and her culture.

    Then there's Orthodox Christmas on Jan 7th, Old New Years Jan 13th (I'm still a bit scetchy on this one), Valentines Day Feb14 (which is only a newbie to the FSU, but gifts will be expected) and Women's Day on March 8th (possibly the most important day for women). I suggest googling Russian/ Ukrainian holidays.

    Most pay sites offer various gifts like roses, fruit baskets, chocolates and teddy bears to give your girl and warm her heart. All are dramatically over-priced!!! Oh, I almost forgot the day at a local spa and English lessons! For the price of 13 roses (check it out... even numbers are for funerals and are bad luck) to be delivered with photo of the happy occasion on each of these holidays, you could fly to your girl, go to a local flower shop to buy the roses and give them to her yourself and take a picture!

    My last trip to Lugansk, long stem roses with buds as big as your fist were about 5 UAH each or with todays exchange rate, around $0.60 USD!!! 13 roses from most sites will run you between $150 and $250 USD.

    Add this to the cost of letter writing, because even if your girl speaks fluent English she needs an interpreter, and you can begin to see the dollars melting away.

    This brings me back to "exclusivity", because the ONLY way you can write to your girl, send gifts or chat with her is through the website! A website that provides anti-scam warnings about sending money to fake translation agencies!!!!!!!!!![:0][B)][B)][B)][:0][B)][B)][B)][B)][B)][xx(][V]

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    On another forum there was this (African ) man who was disgruntled after spending money on videochats, getting all those porn flick babes madly interested in him, but then they'd disappear when he wanted to move forward. Women on his 'close preferred list' went through the usual routine...visit faraway relatives, [xx(] relocate, loose contact...I don't remember the exact yarn they spun.
    What I remember is that after the agency was brought into spotlight, they first named & shamed him [)](forewarning to all those who think about doing the same ), but in the end they even brought good old Zhanna (or whoever she was ) back from the afterlife...she finally established contact with the unhappy customer again.
    [8D]

    I fail to see the different degree of reality between these webcam farms and the more (in)famous ones that propel porn sites...the principle is the same, the girls are probably the same...
    Just a modern, high-tech version of older porn chat lines... $3,99 a minute to live a dream...

    How comes say 7-8/10 girls happen to be online and ready to chat AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY? Hell, at 3AM?!
    It's the same bait I see on porn sites...photos of naked pornstars willing to meet ME right now in *** (any location you happen to be connecting from )...
    Then their team takes shift and they are back home in time to give old Boris head before their favourite sitcom begins...
    While poor old Leroy, Barney, Pedro and Wong 3,5,10.000 km away daydream about trophy wives...

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    quote:Originally posted by ham2
    [br]On another forum there was this (African ) man who was disgruntled after spending money on videochats, getting all those porn flick babes madly interested in him, but then they'd disappear when he wanted to move forward. Women on his 'close preferred list' went through the usual routine...visit faraway relatives, [xx(] relocate, loose contact...I don't remember the exact yarn they spun.
    What I remember is that after the agency was brought into spotlight, they first named & shamed him [)](forewarning to all those who think about doing the same ), but in the end they even brought good old Zhanna (or whoever she was ) back from the afterlife...she finally established contact with the unhappy customer again.
    [8D]

    I fail to see the different degree of reality between these webcam farms and the more (in)famous ones that propel porn sites...the principle is the same, the girls are probably the same...
    Just a modern, high-tech version of older porn chat lines... $3,99 a minute to live a dream...

    How comes say 7-8/10 girls happen to be online and ready to chat AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY? Hell, at 3AM?!
    It's the same bait I see on porn sites...photos of naked pornstars willing to meet ME right now in *** (any location you happen to be connecting from )...
    Then their team takes shift and they are back home in time to give old Boris head before their favourite sitcom begins...
    While poor old Leroy, Barney, Pedro and Wong 3,5,10.000 km away daydream about trophy wives...
    A ham by any other name would still smell like bacon! Ham is that you??? Or just a would-be ham??? It sounds like the authentic hambone. If so, where have you been hiding? I could never match your crummudgeonly sarcasm and skepticism!

    Which the word out guys who read this is...

    1. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
    2. There is NO thriving MOB industry any longer, just a lot of fakers playing a shill game for the next sucker's cash.
    3. If you do meet your FSU dream woman, be sure to get to know some other guys who have married Russians and get the whole story before you jump in hook line and sinker.

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    Hey guys! Prometheus, if that's not the original ham, I'll turn in my supertights and cape tomorrow! I know the literary stylings of my old mentor anywhere.

    And I agree whole heartedly with what you've both said about this 'newage' FSU/ MOB video dating. That's why I made a separate topic post, so it would be easier for newbies to find.

    Although the site I checked out didn't offer nudity, it does have a similar feel to a webcam porn site in some ways. ham, you're exactly right about these girls being online at what would be the graveyard shift, 3, 4, 5 am. It's like they're 'working' a shift at a regular job, and I'm sure there are a good number of these girls who are paid to keep guys buying credits so they can continue their fantasies.

    I doesn't quite cost $3.99/ min, but it's still decent money when you think about the number of girls on the site at any one time.

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    quote:A ham by any other name would still smell like bacon! Ham is that you??? Or just a would-be ham??? It sounds like the authentic hambone. If so, where have you been hiding? I could never match your crummudgeonly sarcasm and skepticism!
    All I know is that my login oh-so-suddenly [?] stopped working[B)][:0]and -come think about it- right after I posted a potential scammer (it was someone else's blog anyways )...hmmm...then the post was gone, too.

    Frankly, I have better things to do than wasting time playing mind games online with some freak Igor who runs scam rings...it's a miserable way to earn a living, but hey...idiots need a decent caloric intake, too. [)]


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    Hey ham(2)! This forum has been screwed up for a while. I remember, about 3 months worth of posts disappeared suddenly about 10 months ago, I think it was. Logins are all screwed up! For some reason, I now have censorship access???? I have no clue how or why. Not something I plan to use, but if there is an locked topic you want opened, let me know.

    swede and I have missed your wisdom at psycho-b.

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